German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Ulver]

Moving the discussion from Mainhattan to Lounge thread.

Eight European countries have legalized prostitution - Austria, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Latvia, Switzerland, Turkey and partially UK. But only Germany and some parts of Austria and Switzerland has any significant FKK type businesses. Greece, Hungary and Turkey are much closer to Romania and Bulgaria from where most of the FKK girls come to Germany for prostitution work. Now, why do you think all these girls come all the way to Germany instead of going to the countries closer (some still goes), which also brings some sex tourists (some stopover travelers too) in turn to Germany? Because besides the strength of economy, Germans built an infrastructure, security and system for this business that no other country provides. That system includes an implied Service vs. Pricing vs. Cost of Living model that keeps the business alive and going. Now, if most of us fucks up that service / pricing model by paying more than what is suggested by that well balanced model due to whatever the reason / justification we may have, what do you think will happen to the overall business and service environment in Germany? My guess, it will become similar to all the other countries in few years. Good luck in having good 30 minutes service for even 200-300 e in couple of years from now, and then slowly the FKKs will die due to lack of customers. So my advice. Let's not to cut the branch of the tree on which we are sitting. Let's not support so much inflation in this business that the business itself falls apart. I don't expect the WGs to understand this economic model albeit simple, but I do expect any monger reading here to at least think twice before next time paying more than the standard rates..

Well said Gino, well said. Every monger should consider this.

[Gino02]

There are 3 groups of people on ISG.

First group members think 50 is 50 and a girl needs to provide all services for 50. This includes BBBJ and kissing for sure, sex in multiple positions, perhaps even some ball sucking, FIV, fia, and even rimming. They do not like guys who pay extra money for any of the above services and they call such men tourists and suckers and clueless and worse.

Second group members think 50 is not very much money. Typically members of this group are somewhat affluent or at least they can afford to spend some amount of money in the clubs. These men are willing to pay 100 E or even more for 30 minute sessions to obtain many of the services mentioned above, especially if the girl is pretty. They also look down on members of group 1 and call them cheap Charlie's.

The third group is not very vocal here but they exist. They think it is best to be flexible. Sometimes these men pay extra money for some services and at other times they are strict in their purchases of services. I fall into group 3 most of the time, and perhaps you do as well.

Moving the discussion from Mainhattan to Lounge thread.

Eight European countries have legalized prostitution - Austria, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Latvia, Switzerland, Turkey and partially UK. But only Germany and some parts of Austria and Switzerland has any significant FKK type businesses. Greece, Hungary and Turkey are much closer to Romania and Bulgaria from where most of the FKK girls come to Germany for prostitution work. Now, why do you think all these girls come all the way to Germany instead of going to the countries closer (some still goes), which also brings some sex tourists (some stopover travelers too) in turn to Germany? Because besides the strength of economy, Germans built an infrastructure, security and system for this business that no other country provides. That system includes an implied Service vs. Pricing vs. Cost of Living model that keeps the business alive and going. Now, if most of us fucks up that service / pricing model by paying more than what is suggested by that well balanced model due to whatever the reason / justification we may have, what do you think will happen to the overall business and service environment in Germany? My guess, it will become similar to all the other countries in few years. Good luck in having good 30 minutes service for even 200-300 e in couple of years from now, and then slowly the FKKs will die due to lack of customers. So my advice. Let's not to cut the branch of the tree on which we are sitting. Let's not support so much inflation in this business that the business itself falls apart. I don't expect the WGs to understand this economic model albeit simple, but I do expect any monger reading here to at least think twice before next time paying more than the standard rates.

For our reference again, standard rates are: 50 e for 30 minutes of service including BBBJ, DFK, FIV, BLS, COB etc, with each additional 30 minutes unit of time for additional 50e.
Only extras are: CIM or COF for additional 50e, anal additional 100e. Both one time charge irrespective of how many times that activity happened when you stayed with her for multiple units of time.
There is absolutely no extra charge for multiple positions, it's not even a thing, never was and never should be. Obviously you cannot expect the girl to be in a position of cartwheel or pile-driver unless she wants to do that. Only normal sex positions please.

Interestingly, this is exactly what a new receptionist at Oase told me as prices for services, when I asked couple of years back.

[TankTank123]

Do any clubs in Germany have any Chinese, Japanese, Thai, Filipino, Malaysian girls? I remember years ago Bea at Palace but that's it. I haven't been with an Oriental girl since then and would like to.

If 'Bea' is the Thai girl at Palace in 2009/2010, then there is currently at Sharks, a Filipina called Marlyn whom I find even better than Bee/Bea. Top class service, and with bob hair, cute pixie look. Usually heavily booked.

There is also a very very fat oriental-looking girl at Sharks (ex-World) whom you probably would not want to try, unless you are very short of cash.

[Thanos2019]

+1.

I am American and I do not disagree! Many American girls, or men for that matter, are quite fat. Too many calories and too little exercise, I'm afraid.

Evita used to be slim. But she has been eating Sharks food that makes all the girls fat. She is better than other girls that have worked at Sharks for this many years but she is no longer young nor slim. However, her Asian customers still seem to like her. This is surprising to me as she is not even a fake blonde.

You are right about Puerto Rican girls in Florida. Some pretty Cuban girls too on the South beach.

I never noticed Betty at Sharks, I would say Evita is 165 but not anymore slim, no more waist, even not fat. Megan was refused at Globe on her first try on February 2017, then she returned for 1 month at Sharks to lose weight she got at home with Romanian foods and she tried again and was accepted on April, she is much more slim than Evita, Kate even with curvy ass is also more slim above ass, with narrow waist which make her ratio waist / ass so sexy, compare to Evita who is quite straight body shape. Madi World also had a so sexy ratio ass / waist. Maybe we don t have same standards for slim girls, for sure I find most of American women fat. I remember my first visit on 1996 landing in the morning in Miami, I walked on the beach for more than 6 hours, I think more than 20 km, when I returned to hotel exhausted and so disappointed, I asked I didn't see any Pamela Anderson like she was on playboy before silicon, and I was answered: But Pamela Anderson is not American, she is Western Canadian. Prettiest seen in Florida were Puerto Rican girls, much more sexy and firm than Americans who are really not slim. Some blond Puerto Ricans were really attractive.

[Sebastiane]

I am planning a summer trip to the Frankfurt area FKKs in the next few weeks and want to ask about current Top Beauties / Top Girls at the following clubs:

Palace.

Oase.

Sharks.

World.

Mainhattan.

Thanks in advance. (I know beauty is subjective but it is still helpful to have a list of top lookers / performers).

[VishudJb]

Do any clubs in Germany have any Chinese, Japanese, Thai, Filipino, Malaysian girls? I remember years ago Bea at Palace but that's it. I haven't been with an Oriental girl since then and would like to.

You can get in Shark.

[Chongmal]

Do any clubs in Germany have any Chinese, Japanese, Thai, Filipino, Malaysian girls? I remember years ago Bea at Palace but that's it. I haven't been with an Oriental girl since then and would like to.

Two older Thai ladies working at GT Bruggen. There were a couple younger Thai ladies, Mai, and Pim working there but I haven't seen them recently. There was a Filipina lady at GT when I was there about e weeks ago. Reports from last Thursday were that a nice Asian lady was working at LR last Thursday.

[Sirioja]

Well Takedown, your original question was this:

And I merely stated what I think, essentially what I would consider slim or not. We can agree to disagree, because it's just a matter of personal preference or taste.

I never noticed Betty at Sharks, I would say Evita is 165 but not anymore slim, no more waist, even not fat. Megan was refused at Globe on her first try on February 2017, then she returned for 1 month at Sharks to lose weight she got at home with Romanian foods and she tried again and was accepted on April, she is much more slim than Evita, Kate even with curvy ass is also more slim above ass, with narrow waist which make her ratio waist / ass so sexy, compare to Evita who is quite straight body shape. Madi World also had a so sexy ratio ass / waist. Maybe we don t have same standards for slim girls, for sure I find most of American women fat. I remember my first visit on 1996 landing in the morning in Miami, I walked on the beach for more than 6 hours, I think more than 20 km, when I returned to hotel exhausted and so disappointed, I asked I didn't see any Pamela Anderson like she was on playboy before silicon, and I was answered: But Pamela Anderson is not American, she is Western Canadian. Prettiest seen in Florida were Puerto Rican girls, much more sexy and firm than Americans who are really not slim. Some blond Puerto Ricans were really attractive.

[Gino02]

Clinicians disagree with you. 45 kg is less than 100 lbs.

http://www.hunterdiabetescentre.com....michartmetric/

Kate and Megan are both well over 50 kg, at least 5 kg over. In comparison, Betty at Sharks is self reported over 50 kg at 155 cm. She is bottom heavy but by no means obese. And if she is over 50 kg, there is no way Kate and Megan weigh less than her.

Well Takedown, your original question was this:

155 cm and 50 kg with big tits.

5' 1.5" and 110 lbs with big tits.

Would people here consider that considered slim?

And I merely stated what I think, essentially what I would consider slim or not. We can agree to disagree, because it's just a matter of personal preference or taste.

[Takedown]

Hey all,

Been a lurker here, trying to research and read as much as I can. I'm headed to Frankfurt in July and have a few days to play around with. I'm trying to decide if FKK's are more "bang for your buck" than regular escort agencies. Beyond that, when visiting FKK's, should one take a bag with them for toiletries (deodorant, cologne, mouthwash, etc)?

Sub-question, I've read that rooms at Sharks are not air conditioned and can be a bit stuffy for activities during the summer months. Would Oase or Mainhattan be a better alternative, and how do current lineups compare? Thanks in advance.

FKKs are more bang for your buck if you plan on doing multiple girls or truly enjoy the spa, pool, garden, food amenities. Being able to see the girls is also a strong benefit.

I bring my own toiletries but you do not have to. Deodorant, mouthwash, and hair product are supplied at Sharks but not at Oase.

Sharks rooms are miserable in July especially if you are a perfuse sweater. The "air conditioned" cabins outside makes it slightly better. There are some sex caves near the Jacuzzis but the air conditioning units are more often malfunctioning. Oase is almost as bad but at least the public areas are air conditioned although the rooms are still stuffy.

Palace is well ventilated and conditioned. I can; t recall Mainhattan being all that bad.

Too many opinions on line up quality to comment much except to say that Sharks by far gets the most visitors, and that includes local Germans as well as tourists.

[Colforbin]

Do any clubs in Germany have any Chinese, Japanese, Thai, Filipino, Malaysian girls? I remember years ago Bea at Palace but that's it. I haven't been with an Oriental girl since then and would like to.

The best looking girl in any FKK I've been to is Thai massage girl Sukanya at Sharks, and I'm not generally into Asians. But all you will get from her is a great massage.

I haven't seen any Asian WGs at an FKK.

[Takedown]

From what I know, every single country has its own official BMI chart on average, overweight, obese. And it less and less about health, and more and more about politics. So we might as well make our own.

BMI is not country dependent. And the chart you yourself presented showed the stats quoted was for an ideal woman. It would be easier to just say that your personal definition of slim and overweight is different than mainstream accepted values rather than construct scenarios for argument's sake. Saying that the presented stats represents an overweight person while presenting a chart that contradicts that, well, I can't explain the logic in that.

[Chongmal]

I'm going to put both of you in each Ignore List if ever again you complain or quote him, I'm going to Ban you.

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[Pistons]

No they don't really change all that much. But even on that chart found on tumbler and typed in neon print, 5 foot 1.5 inch is considered ideal, not overweight. Are you sure that you read your source correctly? Mistakes happen.

From what I know, every single country has its own official BMI chart on average, overweight, obese. And it less and less about health, and more and more about politics. So we might as well make our own.

[Takedown]

Even with her weight gain, most people will still consider a girl like Evita of Sharks slim. When she says she is 55 kg and Betty of Sharks says she is over 50 kg, logic dictates that Kate of GT and Megan of Globe who are several inches taller then them are not lighter. What is more likely, a man with a lower vantage point due to stature misjudging a woman's weight or the shorter girls claiming to be heavier than they actually are?

Who would believe that Megan who is over 6 inches taller than Betty is lighter than her? That statement is inconsistent with the facts and logic.

This 50 kg estimate is grossly inaccurate and misleads readers. (If looking for Kate at GT, don't look for the 168 cm girl who is 50 kg. You will not find her). Instead, look for the 168 kg girl with the big ass who is closer to 55 kg.

Global obesity and optic standards aside, a kg is still a kg whether in America or in Europe.

These girls are normal attractive women, not Victoria Secret or runway models. Slim by VS model standards is a silly and useless standard of the word for FKK mongering purposes.