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06-06-19 07:22 #45270
Posts: 134Soi Cowboy Go-Go's
First day in BKK and went for what I was having in mind a short stroll in Soi Cowboy. I wasn't expecting that much after reading the posts here about the go-go scene's especially in SC but it wasn't that bad after all. Did only 3 bars from about 09:30 pm until 3:00 am.
In fact I'm surprised to realize now and see how long I have been staying around there but I think it proves at least for me that I didn't had a bad time. First bar I went into was Dollhouse. It was quite busy but still some seats available. I think that most girls I've seen on stage were between 25 and 30 year old. Bodies were OK, mostly slim girls and I don't think I have seen silicones. I would give it an overall score of 6. 5 in regards to looks.
There was a girl I believe she was number 77 that I laid my eyes on. Actually she locked her eyes on me instead. I was attracted by her great smile. Funny to realize that the nonsense non-verbal interaction can give you a great feeling, haha. I was wondering that she would come over after her dance shift but she didn't and eventually I went off to the next bar, Kazy Kozy.
I can be short about that bar. Girls looked rather horrendous. Little to saggy tits and bodies without much curves. There were barely customers and the show didn't made it any better. I can't understand that such shows are of great value to attract customers. There were only a few and most of them were Asians (I was sitting on the ground level as upstairs the papasan told me it's empty). As for me it works the opposite to watch such shows especially when there was nothing else worthwhile to watch or talk to. I didn't spend longer than 30 minutes just to find out that the next shift would be of better quality. Perhaps I should go earlier next time as I know that 10 pm is quite late. It might as well be that many of them have been bar fined as there weren't that many girls on stage.
Went to Shark and the place was quite full with many girls on stage. Quality of girls was OK. Perhaps here the girls are also going into their thirties. Nothing really worth mentioning but it wasn't bad either knowing how late it was (perhaps around 11:00).
I ended up in Dollhouse again and number 77 was still around. Eventually she came and sit down with me and we had good fun. Even though she doesn't tick off many boxes in regards to my physical preferences I just liked her character and style. Her name is Mai, 25 yo I believe she was and speaks reasonable English. Has two children but I believe that I was too drunk to find out that she has any damage. She's not slim but I would not define her as being fat either. Again, she was good fun for me and she's a good kisser. I considered her to bring her with me to my hotel but then I understood that she has to bring her kid to school quite early. I might do ST with her in case I go into SC again. Perhaps I'll be going to Nana tonight and see what's available over there.
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06-06-19 07:15 #45269
Posts: 5483Originally Posted by Syzygies [View Original Post]
But the thought did cross my mind during the mamasan interference and neither's willingness to budge even an inch to make at least some decent money for doing nothing requiring much effort that somebody is protecting the top asking price of somebody else a little too passionately here. So passionately that they are willing to see a relatively easy 2,000 baht walk away without even making a 2,500 baht split the difference counter offer. Just a thought.
Still would like to try the stunning deaf girl, if get a chance, with bonuses offered.
Some here may remember the first great Dr. BJ's Salon super star, EE, who stopped working a few years ago. As far as I know, she was the first BJ bargirl to break with expectations and wear very large black horn rimmed glasses. She was sexier, better looking and more skilled than most at her job. The glasses did not detract much and she would remove them on request during the deed. They became her trade mark. Soon enough, MANY other BJ bargirls at that bar and other such bars began to show up wearing very large black horn rimmed glasses. LOL. Apparently, they were hoping to catch customers sent there by word-of-mouth (pun intended) to "choose the one with very large black horn rimmed glasses."
The same copy-cat thing seems to be happening with that blondish double hair braided/pony-tail look for many of the deaf girls in front of the Nana Hotel sign.
Anyway, I did not want to negotiate right there on the spot but got this one's Line info, which she was happy to give without hesitation. However, a closer look at her Line account left me with some confusion in that, although the girl in the profile photo looked generally like the one I'd just met in terms of size, skinniness and skin color, her hair and style was completely different, which is easy to happen, and she did not look nearly as cute in her pics as she did in the flesh. Of course, the latter does happen, too. But this was so stark I actually doubt it is the same girl. LOL. Some kind of switcheroo? Maybe.
As far as her (or whoever's) willingness to agree to my requirements of either a BBBJ+CIM or BBFS+CIP (I did not say it that way, of course), the answer to BBFS+CIP was no, definitely no and no again, "1,500 for sex. Must use condom." The BBBJ+CIM part has not really been answered yet. I say yet because, much to my surprise, she did not block me after saying no, definitely no and no again to my general requirements and has continued off and on to send me little "Hi" messages every now and then as though she did not want to close the door entirely on what I was offering with a bonus. btw, I had also mentioned my vasectomy and recent normal blood check document. Maybe those are additional reasons she has not completely closed the door on agreeing to have a ST my way just yet.
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06-06-19 06:34 #45268
Posts: 463Kiss= keep it simple silly LOL
Originally Posted by Aviator12 [View Original Post]
I got a couple free bargirls without even buying them a drink in a couple Korean bars in AC on my recent trip (this one was from dragon bar).
So I'm laying in bed with one after we finish, and we are chatting a bit I ask her if she likes white guys or Koreans more.
She says Koreans, I ask why?
She says easy customers (most don't even speak English).
In ac most white guys speak English and want to pre-negotiate every detail and if they don't get everything we agreed to.
They will be yelling in the room and will probably come back to the bar to yell more.
Not the Koreans.
The prices are pre set.
They accept whatever is given, period!
There is never a debate or argument.
She says every girl in her bar is the same way.
They go for easy money.
This is how desperate duan destroys mongering.
Pays any price for any service.
I've been in almost every bar in ac in 120 nights.
99% are not worth the pre-set BF and girls fee, plus drinks.
Plus / plus / plus.
So they are getting overpaid by him and they can give him as little as they want.
Just run out the clock and make sure he cums somehow.
I was talking to a mamasan in dragon one day LOL.
She wanted me to fuck her LOL.
She was telling me she's also an interpreter for the bar.
She speaks Japanese.
I asked you get many Japanese customers? She said no, but we advertise to them.
And we get a few, and we need someone that can at least tell them the price.
So its obvious how desperate duan operates.
Its quite deliberate, ask for as little as possible, pay more than everyone else.
Take them for a massage and dinner, buy them roses, and don't forget to tip them well LMAO.
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06-06-19 06:15 #45267
Posts: 1222My Two Cents.
I feel whether Thai women will relocate abroad depends on circumstances.
If professional and educated, from a middle income up socioeconomic background, they are less likely for sure. However if its true love and he's close in age, seriously financially secure and accepted by her family it's more than possible.
Girls on low incomes with little prospects of improving their circumstances are much more likely to move abroad especially if their partner is also willing to take care of her family or promises her an work opportunity to do her herself. Here his circumstances I. E. His age appearance and her feelings for him are less important but also play a part I. E. Is he a true Farang Jai Dee.
The smarter more experienced working girls seeking higher earnings are increasingly working abroad for limited periods most likely in Korea and Malaysia although they can be found almost anywhere. This is often cited as a reason for the declining quality of local talent.
All that said it is commonly accepted that Thai's unlike say Filipinos are among the least mobile people on the planet.
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06-06-19 06:06 #45266
Posts: 3497Originally Posted by Allover [View Original Post]
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06-06-19 06:05 #45265
Posts: 463Delusions? LOL.
Originally Posted by Goatscrot [View Original Post]
Please elucidate the situation for me.
I have never used a condom in Asia.
60+ days in BKK and almost 120 in AC.
With some sessions include anal.
And have not contracted anything yet, probably close to 200 sessions?
But I have heard the law of averages is a [Deleted by Admin].
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06-06-19 05:25 #45264
Posts: 12856Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Truly I have had plenty of girls with no price negotiation at all. Easier for me, since I and not looking for special requirements, in terms of what we will do on a bed. Just want a girl that can relax and enjoy herself. Perhaps that is a tall order these days. So I ask questions to get information about the style of girl these days. That is not a negotiation at all.
I have found a girl that will go all night, and never had a price negotiation with her, even once. I need BB since pussy is a bit too tight. Maybe a bit too brown skinned for some guys on here, and tits too small for smoothy, but rest of body is good enough and face cute for me. Girls with attitudes like the old days still exist (just hard to find). I don't recall now if a mamasan was ever involved. Mamasans approach, but I am largely ignoring them, certainly not discussing taking a girl. I just hand BFs to the girl and she can go see the mamasan herself. No one method is going to feel right for everyone, I am sure. However the thing I need most, a certain girl attitude, cannot be negotiated.
As ET has mentioned, we can promise a bonus for the girl if she extra good, or extra "GFE". I don't believe we should have to pay the same price to every girl regardless of her quality and her attitude.
One possible remedy I was and am considering. Find a reasonably good looking girl on Soi 4 for a bargain basement base price. Then promise her various bonuses depending on just how good she can make the session. I certainly had girls that did not want to give much, but then I had not offered the bonuses. Lucky I found Naam, tall and well above average looks (small tits) that does not cut the time and gives full on tongue kissing etc. She is not at all adverse to a good bonus. Fun girl. A good session is guaranteed. No risk. Actually the best girl I had from Soi 4, ever, and that is over many years. Still would like to try the stunning deaf girl, if get a chance, with bonuses offered.
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06-06-19 04:13 #45263
Posts: 74Originally Posted by Allover [View Original Post]
I wasn't there to see it happen, and I'm only telling a summarized version 2nd hand. But it does show that there are still potentially dangerous situations and scammy practices going on in some go go bars. Even a simple search shows that place should be avoided along with all the other Arab owned bars in Soi Cowboy. I've never had an experience like this, but the lesson I would take away from my friend's story is that doing a bit of due diligence on websites like this helps quite a bit with avoiding shit situations like that.
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06-06-19 03:46 #45262
Posts: 84Originally Posted by FarangPunter [View Original Post]
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06-05-19 21:37 #45261
Posts: 232Where?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-flowers.html
I generally stick around lower Suk while in Bangkok. Any opinions on where specifically the working girls are that the Junta Gen specks of?
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06-05-19 19:23 #45260
Posts: 5483Originally Posted by Aviator12 [View Original Post]
In this case, I suppose the only thing that might have been asking less of her would have been if I'd said I would give her 2,000 baht to just sit in the taxi outside while I went inside my room alone for 15 minutes. To which she and the mamasan presumably would have said in unison, "All the girls here get 3,000 baht for Short Time!"
I don't know. Is that taxi arrangement a well known fetish for which bargirls are prepared in a nanosecond to jack up the price and stick to it as well?
One thing I learned from this little test was neither this girl nor either of the two mamasans in Butterflies who descended on me when it looked like I might pay a barfine are familiar with customers asking for anything in particular in the room and are only familiar with them negotiating price. Which is what I fear it has come to these days anyway.
Despite the oft repeated advice about telling the girl or the mamasan what you want beforehand, they've heard it all, etc., etc., I think the truth is these girls and mamasans almost never hear anything from the cusomer regarding what he expects of her for the money he is going to give her. They are totally confused about what to do or say about it when that happens. Which I think is similar to your point as well.
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06-05-19 19:07 #45259
Posts: 17Originally Posted by Crocodilexp [View Original Post]
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06-05-19 18:39 #45258
Posts: 5483Originally Posted by Mogwai [View Original Post]
I do what I can to avoid making her think I have immediately decided to take her and "Let's go!"
I am not saying some girls have not misunderstood it to mean otherwise. I can't say for sure. But it has never been a problem for both of us to walk right back inside to carry on if the deal has not been struck outside.
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06-05-19 17:09 #45257
Posts: 1233Originally Posted by Goatscrot [View Original Post]
In any case, a Farang expat or tourist marrying a working girl used to be common in the past (I almost ended up doing that), but with the current crop of hookers, one would have to be truly delusional to even contemplate the possibility.
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06-05-19 17:04 #45256
Posts: 1233Originally Posted by RedKilt [View Original Post]
However, in the past, most women from lower classes of society would accept moving abroad as part-and-parcel of social and economic advancement that marriage to a (relatively) wealthy Farang would bring to her and the entire family. They would prefer if he stayed in Thailand and bought them a house of course. Or even better, just bought the house and sent money without staying.
This is in stark contrast with the Filipinas who's jump at a chance to live abroad, preferably permanently.