Panama City

[ShyGuy66]

Calle 50. Next door to Hooters.

How private is the VIP room? Is there a time keeper? What about a door? Does it remain locked? Planning to go to Panama next month. I want to know if Alejandro's VIP room is a safe option. Also, does Habanos still have private rooms? Rate?

[Hecotr Ramirez]

Where the hell is Alejandro's Bar?

Calle 50. Next door to Hooters.

[Tp Horn]

Alejandro's bar (Calle 50)

Where the hell is Alejandro's Bar?

[Hecotr Ramirez]

I would agree. Looks like there are many other better choices.

I have found that it is much easier to simply go to Alejandro's bar (Calle 50) with a girl from Habanos or Alejandro's and tell the girl to make arrangements to take you to the VIP. The girl will arrange with the manager of the bar for one of 2 VIP rooms and then you are all set. Best part about it, the girl pays the bar $30 per hour in the VIP room out of the money you give her. So negotiate well with her. Usually you can negotiate for $100 + $30 for the room. There is no bed in the VIP rooms, however you will have total privacy and a couch. Best part, you don't have to pay chica fees in any hotel. Bring them to Alejandros, have a few drinks and then take them to the VIP room and done.

[LeoAiolia]

Hey all,

I've been gathering intel as I've traveled through Cartagena and Mexico. I am going back to Panama next month where it all began for me some years ago and still deciding where I'll stay; currently leaning on Airbnb mainly for the space, proximity to the bike lane and trying to avoid the hassle of sneaking in girls. I've noticed that there is a lot of talk about hotels charging a "chica" fee and I just want to share some of the tricks I've used in the past as I've never paid a fee.

Panama Marriott:

The obvious choice. This is the first hotel I ever booked in Pty and I wasn't even aware of the action in Habanos; my plan was to go to one of the "clubs" I knew back when I was living there, just I was too young to enjoy them properly. The taxi driver was the one that told me about it on the way from the airport as he thought that was the reason I had booked that hotel. Anyways, my first night I took a taxi to the club (Club Miami I think is / was called, not sure if it still exists in El Dorado) but it was completely dead, as in I was the only guy there. I walked out and went back to Habanos. I picked my first ever girl and I just walked across the street into the Marriott; I just got a nod from the doorman and walked right in. The next night, however, I was walking in with another girl when a guy in the front desk stopped me. He told me I could not bring the girl up because I did not register her at check in. The girl told me we should go to another hotel but I took her around and went into the casino. I told her to wait for me there as I went to look for a path to smuggle her; when I returned she was gone. I figured she went back to Habanos so I went there again, found her, told her to follow me into the casino again, walked up the stairs and took the elevator that is right there.

I went back to the hotel another time I was in Pty and followed the same procedure on two nights with two separate girls of going in through the casino and into the elevators that are right next to the second floor casino entrance.

The next few times I went to Panama I stayed in other hotels as I found better deals. On my second to last visit there, I booked two nights at Marriott and one at Continental. The second night I arranged with one of the girls I had met before and told her to just meet me in the bar by the entrance. I came down, had a couple of drinks with her, and then went up; no trouble. The last day I checked into the Continental (more on that later).

The last time I went to Panama I also stayed at the Marriott as I was confident I could get the girls in without anyone stopping me. One night I also arranged with a repeat to do the same trick as the last time, but she didn't follow my instructions and was just standing in the middle of the lobby when I came down. Luckily, no one said anything so I just walked up the stair with her to be safe no one saw us get in the elevators and just went up from the second floor. The last night I contacted her again and told her to bring a friend. This time I told her to just walk up the stair like the last time, however, when she arrived she told me to go to the lobby because they had stopped her. I went down, the guy asked me my room number, looked at me, and told me to have a good night.

I'm not sure if anyone has tried the casino trick here as I've seen other have tried the casino entrance at other hotels, but it never failed me. Granted, it's been almost 3 years since I was last there so security may have changed.

Holiday Inn Express:

I think I stayed here the second time I was there due to the free breakfast, cheaper rate and just trying to avoid the Marriott hassle (I was not yet confident in my casino entrance and the lobby bar didn't exist). Anyways, I had agreed to meet with one of the girls I knew at Habanos (I wanted to make sure she was as hot as I remembered) and had a couple of drinks with her there. I told her I was in the mood for a threesome so she showed me one of her friends, I agreed, and she called her to come to Habanos. Once she got there, the three of us walked the 5-10 min walk to the Holiday Inn. At the lobby, the guy asked for their passports, made copies, and told me to have a good night. No fees.

Continental:

This is the hotel up the street from Habanos. The first night I went to Habanos and was having a drink when I hear a girl call out my fake name I give to girls. I looked up and did not recognize her at first, then I remembered she was the one girls I had taken to the Marriott. She was with a friend, they sat with me for a drink and invited me to have a threesome with them. Since I had already scoped the hotel for possible incognito entrances, we walked into the side entrance where there is an elevator in front of the casino entrance. That night, however, there was a guy there since I think there was an event, but I told him I would tip him later after I was done with the girls. After the best threesome I've ever had, I went down with them and tipped the guy $5. The next night I went back to Habanos, picked up another girl, only she wanted to take a taxi (yep, she didn't want to walk the 200 m to the hotel). Before I got in the cab, I asked the driver how much and he told me just a tip. We got in and I told him to drop us at the side entrance; he decided to ignore me and took us to the main entrance. I gave him $2 and he told me it was $5. I reminded him that he said just a tip before I got in the cab that at he even ignored my instructions of where to drop us up. He got mad and seemed like he wanted to fight, I told him off and walked out with the girl. Of course, the front guy told us to go to the front desk. Luckily, I had made the reservation for 2 so I simply told the receptionist to add her as the second guest. She told me any additional guests after that would be additional (I think she said $35 but can't remember).

Another time I was in Pty I again booked this hotel and again followed the side entrance without hassle.

Courtyard Multiplaza:

On one of my trips to another Central America country I booked my fight with a 1 night layover in Pty but decided to stay in a more convenient location. I always go to Multiplaza Pacifica so this hotel was perfect. That night I arranged with one of the girl I know that I had asked to arrange the threesome and told he to meet me at the bar section of the mall. I met her there, we had a few drinks at a couple of the bars and then went back to the hotel. We walked in without any issues and she stayed the night.

I know it's a long post but hopefully someone finds it helpful. Again, the last time I was in Panama was 2016 so some things may have changed. If anyone has tried the Marriott and / or Continental casino entrance recently let us know if it still works.

I will try to provide another report after my trip next work. Again, I may try Airbnb for the first time here and see how it goes.

[Hobbiest1]

The price fluctuates. Sometimes I had to pay $75, other times $45 and $50. Its a pain dealing with this hotel. Beware. Be very aware. If you are coming to Panama for the chicas. This is not the place for you.

I would agree. Looks like there are many other better choices.

[RudeBwoy100]

I just booked my flight (non refundable) for my first ever mongering trip, it's set for a week from the 20th to the 27th of June to PTY, it will be a budget mongering trip and just have a question for the pros on here. On Panescorts I see some girls list "apartmento propio," which means they have their own apartment, does that mean it's possible for us to go to their residence to conduct business? I ask because most likely I will be staying in a non chica friendly hotel & it would be awesome if these escorts have their place setup for johns to come over, is this the case & if so is it safe?

[Hecotr Ramirez]

Oh one other thing I failed to mention and is important. When I checked in I had already paid for my room by Expedia so they never took a credit card from me. That means they didn't have a card number on file so they couldn't charge to my room so that's most likely why I was asked for the payment when I entered with the chica.
I was given my choice of cash or credit and it was 40. So exactly the way it worked was the lady working the front desk asked for the girls ID. She makes a copy of it. She wrote my room number on the copy. She had me sign the copy. She then took my credit card and charged 40. Next she writes down the transaction ID on the copy. After all this she puts a copy of the credit card slip and the copy of the ID in a paper folio and wishes me buenos noches.

The price fluctuates. Sometimes I had to pay $75, other times $45 and $50. Its a pain dealing with this hotel. Beware. Be very aware. If you are coming to Panama for the chicas. This is not the place for you.

[Hobbiest1]

It was $45 the last time I was there. I did not pay that. I make a reservation for two people and I'm a member with a lot of points who makes a point to fill out the satisfaction questionnaire sent each time.

Lee.

Oh one other thing I failed to mention and is important. When I checked in I had already paid for my room by Expedia so they never took a credit card from me. That means they didn't have a card number on file so they couldn't charge to my room so that's most likely why I was asked for the payment when I entered with the chica.
I was given my choice of cash or credit and it was 40. So exactly the way it worked was the lady working the front desk asked for the girls ID. She makes a copy of it. She wrote my room number on the copy. She had me sign the copy. She then took my credit card and charged 40. Next she writes down the transaction ID on the copy. After all this she puts a copy of the credit card slip and the copy of the ID in a paper folio and wishes me buenos noches.

[Lee]

Yes. This Chica fee is going into the pockets of the front desk staff. Very clever.

I would use this as an opportunity to bargain. Tell them you can pay Cash, but you only have $20. If they say no, then charge it to your Room.
If they give you BS, ask for the General Manager of the Hotel in a LOUD voice. Also, try to record the conversation on your smartphone *discreetly*.

Lee, the report by Hobbiest does not state the Chica fee. Is it really US $45? What a rip off.

~BKKguru

It was $45 the last time I was there. I did not pay that. I make a reservation for two people and I'm a member with a lot of points who makes a point to fill out the satisfaction questionnaire sent each time.

Lee.

[BKKguru]

" they collect the chica fee right then and there. No more room charge. It is done right on the spot. ".

They require cash up front is that what you're saying. $45.00. That's highly suspicious and I don't mean I don't believe you that does not sound like a Hyatt policy. Sounds more like a private enterprise.

Lee.

Yes. This Chica fee is going into the pockets of the front desk staff. Very clever.

I would use this as an opportunity to bargain. Tell them you can pay Cash, but you only have $20. If they say no, then charge it to your Room.
If they give you BS, ask for the General Manager of the Hotel in a LOUD voice. Also, try to record the conversation on your smartphone *discreetly*.

Lee, the report by Hobbiest does not state the Chica fee. Is it really US $45? What a rip off.

~BKKguru

[HumanBeing1]

5 days 4 nights. Great time, very modern and safe city especially by Latin American standards. Did a few day excursions but spent most of our time in the city.

A lot of fun. The action at habano's was popping each night but we only did that once. The prices were too high imo. $100 was lowest you could get. Some definite stunners in there but plenty of average ones holding out for high prices too. They all start at 150 but most drop to 100 immediately if you balk at that price. Only had one girl refuse to lower.

We MUCH preferred the girls from Panescorts. $50-70 for 30 m 100 for an hour. About half the price of the girls in habano's. The ones me and my friend had were of as high if not higher quality as the girls in habano's. I actually repeated with a 18 year old stunner from medellin. I never repeat. BBBJ was included with most, they were willing to do multiple pops within the 30 m. Just a great experience especially compared to the girls in habano's who from our experience were mechanical and all covered.

Stayed at an airbnb near habano's with no chica fees.

Didn't try any of the Casas or strip clubs. Not usually our scene.

Any questions PM me. I am usually slow answering but will get around to it.

Doubt I'll be back anytime soon but if you are into this hobby it's definitely worth a stop.

[Lee]

" they collect the chica fee right then and there. No more room charge. It is done right on the spot. ".

They require cash up front is that what you're saying. $45.00. That's highly suspicious and I don't mean I don't believe you that does not sound like a Hyatt policy. Sounds more like a private enterprise.

Lee.

[Hobbiest1]

Hello Hobbiests. I wanted to share with you some experiences with Panama City and San Jose Costa Rica. This is all recent. Like as recent as a week ago. Bottom line. Costa Rica is HORRIBLE. Don't go! Panama City is many times better than Costa Rica. These are the things to know:

Immigration at the airport:

PTY. I have never had any issue with delays in getting thru.

SJO. Althought I experienced no delays, I have read multiple accounts of it taking upwards of 2 hours to get thru immigration.

Transportation:

Both PTY and SJO are about the same - 20 - 30 usd from the airport to downtown areas.

Hotels:

PTY. There are many 4 to 5 star options in PTY for on average $65 per night.

SJO. On average the hotels are total shit holes. Many touted ones like La Amistad, Sportsmens and Del Rey are absolutely AWFUL. I stayed at La Amistad and wouldn't even shower it was so bad.

Safety:

PTY. Safe to walk almost anywhere within reason.

SJO. I am not going to risk walking after dark.

Chicas:

PTY. The biggest resource is Habanos. Girls are absolutely gorgeous and around $120st / 250 tln.

SJO. GROSS. Just gross. $100 or more per hour and they are mostly drug addicts.

Overall. You made a wise choice with PTY. Honestly, SJO has some "nice people" but I would never ever go back there when PTY is so CLEAN.

My. 02.

H1.

[Trifecta68]

Does anyone know if Hotel Milan (1/8 of a mile east of old Veneto) is Chica friendly? I recently saw $40 rates posted on Expedia. I stayed 3 years ago and it WAS. A new construction project next door w constant noise drove me away. If anyone is in the area looking for a clean room, good restaurant and short 5 minute walk to Habanos perhaps you can recon and let the group know.