Bogota Reports

[KilledSoul]

Hotel Tequendama It was a great place to stay. Very nice, secure room at a really good price (40 / night). The internet was awesome. I stayed connected to Verizon WiFi nearly the entire trip so nobody back home knew I was out of the country. It was an easy walk to Santa Fe. The biggest negative is they aren't truly girl-friendly. I contacted the manager before my stay to find out their policy. They said they had to register every girl. But there would only be a charge if a girl came in after 9 PM. Fair enough. The problem came in the implementation. I tried to bring a sweet (and obviously 18) Venezuelan girl back from Club Venus. The front desk wouldn't accept her Venezuelan cedula. They demanded a passport and she didn't have one. I doubt many Venezuelan girls in Santa Fe have anything over than a Venezuelan cedula. For that reason, I suggest passing on Tequendama if you plan on bringing girls back to your room.

Great report ShadowJ. Finally a well written long form report on this board. Just a clarification about ID checks, it seems the rule in Medellin and Bogota (probably whole of Colombia) is that if you are bringing a Colombian citizen as a guest she needs to have her cedula, even her passport won't work (see a report on Blux in Medellin) and if one is bringing a Venie she needs to bring her passport.

[Magaman]

It's going down!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCOaBWOG4oQ

Ha, I just dreamed Marwa's girlfriend took me home to meet her parents. I'm not sure why they owned Quint's boat from Jaws? LMAO.

[Mr Enternational]

Yet the age of consent in Jamaica is 16. Age of consent in the Philippines is 12! I know, I know. It's 18 USC sec. 2423 (d): Travel with intent to engage in illicit sexual conduct and 18 USC sec. 2423 (c): Engaging in illicit sexual conduct in foreign places. USA! USA! USA!

The age of consent in my state is also 16, but since I am a US citizen one has to go by the age of majority when in other countries. I like grown women. That is why I do not have to ask for an ID.

[John Clayton]

... to be just 17 for a few more months. She could have easily passed for 20. Glad I asked her age and since she was honest, I didn't need to bother carding her. Just told her, maybe see you in a few months...

Yet the age of consent in Jamaica is 16. Age of consent in the Philippines is 12! I know, I know. It's 18 USC sec. 2423 (d): Travel with intent to engage in illicit sexual conduct and 18 USC sec. 2423 (c): Engaging in illicit sexual conduct in foreign places. USA! USA! USA!

[Taiwan Laowai]

I ask for ID. Walk away if she does not show proof. Without that small discipline, you should not be mongering.

Yea that's like carding the girl LOL. If you don't ask for her ID, she needs to think to herself that she's starting to really look older haha.

Since I'm into big and tall girls, even when in Philippines, I tend not to even look at the small childish types. But in Montego Bay Jamaica, I did meet one big 5'10" girl who turned out to be just 17 for a few more months. She could have easily passed for 20. Glad I asked her age and since she was honest, I didn't need to bother carding her. Just told her, maybe see you in a few months.

[Oil Stain]

That's Streetie Sweeties, and they are better than ever.

Thanks Woodman09! I saw some real lookers Wednesday and Thursday night in Santa Fe. With the current exchange rate Bogota is a bargain. Oil.

[ShadowJ]

I just completed my first trip to Bogota (It was my first time in Colombia as well). With the situation in Venezuela, I figured it was a historically unique opportunity.

A little about my style – I'm very picky with girls and I like a certain type. Generally, I go for 18-22 year old spinners. I will pass on a girl if she is too old (or even looks like she is out of this age group). I will also pass on a girl if she is over 140 pounds (but I sometimes find myself making exceptions). Even if they meet my overall criteria, if they have a hard face, I will pass. I also hate condoms for anything but anal. And I like to get to know the girls a little bit – especially if I repeat. That often results in a real GFE session.

Hotel Tequendama – It was a great place to stay. Very nice, secure room at a really good price (40 / night). The internet was awesome. I stayed connected to Verizon WiFi nearly the entire trip – so nobody back home knew I was out of the country. It was an easy walk to Santa Fe. The biggest negative is they aren't truly girl-friendly. I contacted the manager before my stay to find out their policy. They said they had to register every girl. But there would only be a charge if a girl came in after 9 PM. Fair enough. The problem came in the implementation. I tried to bring a sweet (and obviously 18) Venezuelan girl back from Club Venus. The front desk wouldn't accept her Venezuelan cedula. They demanded a passport and she didn't have one. I doubt many Venezuelan girls in Santa Fe have anything over than a Venezuelan cedula. For that reason, I suggest passing on Tequendama if you plan on bringing girls back to your room.

Woodman69 - When I arrived, I contacted Woodman69 for an introduction to the Santa Fe scene. It was one of the best moves I could have made. I probably would have been intimidated to go to anywhere outside of the main 2 blocks had I not done it several times with him that night. As it turns out, I found some real gems further afield thanks to his guidance. Highly recommended.

Non-mongering activities – I went to one of the restaurants that Anthony Bourdain reviewed that was famous for their Hot Chocolate with a piece of soft cheese in it. I thought it was overrated. I did, however, love Arepas la Reina in Chapinero. It was awesome. I also really liked the burgers at Voodoo – right down the street from Tequendama. Finally, for those who enjoy legitimate Thai massage, I highly recommend doing a 2 hour session at Baw Thai spa in the north of the city. I've been to Thai massage places all over Thailand and the US and this ranks up there with the very best. It is pricey by Colombia standards (I think I paid 200 k for a 2 hour massage), but cheap for what you get.

Now to the mongering. I sampled 4 of the scenes in Bogota: Santa Fe street and club girls, High End Clubs in the North, Primero de Mayo, and Photoprepago. In the end, I think I would have been best served sticking with Santa Fe and tried to get as many short times as humanly possible. I'll explain why shortly.

Santa Fe – While girls seem to be spread out everywhere, it seems to me there are 3 main concentrations:

1. The 2 blocks between Cra. 15 (back entrance to La Piscina) and Cra. 16 a and between Calles 23 and 24. One of the blocks has a higher concentration of street girls and the other has just about all the bars.

2. The intersection of Cra. 15 and Calle 22. There are also some girls along Cra. 15 all the way. (On the left side of the street there are some insane trannies – There is one huge dude with gigantic bolt-ons who walks around topless and screams at you.)

3. Calle 20 around the intersections of Cra. 14 bis and Cra. 15 bis. Again, the hottest girls can be found soliciting cars in the street. This is perhaps the cheapest area. I found some hot 18 year old going for 26 k (they paid the 6 k for the room). You just can't beat a hot, skinny 18 year old for 20 k or $6. That has to be one of the lowest prices for the quality in the world.

My first night after my tour with Woodman69, I saw two hotties with huge natural boobs in area 3. I hadn't had sex in about 2 weeks so I was about to burst. I took them both upstairs, paid a little extra for a double BBBJ. But when they started it, I pulled out a 50 k bill and told them it would go to the one who swallowed my leche. One of the girls was up for the task. She struggled. But the 50 k motivation got her to gulp it down.

I know this may be controversial but I also learned that I could go bareback with just about any of these girls for roughly double their usual fee. Paying an extra $10 to actually feel the sex is well worth it for me. If the girls ask me to finish outside, I always complied. But about half didn't make that request.

During my stay when I went to Santa Fe, I was always on the lookout for fresh meat. I was circulating through all three areas constantly throughout the day. If I saw a girl that met my criteria, I immediately moved in and went for it. I also ended up in a mini "relationship" with a girl from club Venus. She was a really sweet Venezuelan girl who seemed really out of place in the bar. She was awesome. But she kept me from hitting as many street sweeties as I otherwise would have.

If I had it to do all over again, I would have spent all my time in Santa Fe banging one chica after another and repeating with the most impressive ones.

High End Clubs – One night of my trip (Tuesday or Wednesday I think), I went out to 8 or so of the clubs on the Bogota FAQ. I was not impressed with the girls at all. Most were pushing 30 and / or were gordas. I honestly didn't see a single girl that I would sleep with (regardless of price) until the next to last bar – la Piscina. There I found one girl – a 21 year old Colombiana who weighed about 90 pounds. After there were no candidates in the other bar, I returned for the 90 pound girl. The bar fee was 200 k and she wanted 400 for short time and 650 for TLN. I knew I was getting ripped off but I went for it. She was good and enthusiastic but would only do BBBJ. And during our morning session, something happened and it seemed like I was hurting her so I stopped. I felt ripped off. But she was by far the hottest girl I sessioned with and we had a great / athletic session that night despite the condom.

Primer de Mayo – No offense to the fans of this place. But I hated it and ended up cutting my time there short. Even though Santa Fe may be more dangerous in terms of overall crime rate, I am pretty much anonymous there. I don't buy drugs so the drug dealers don't fuck with me. In Primer de Mayo, I gathered a bigger and bigger group of bouncers who (up to 20 in the block before McDonalds) who swarmed on me and were all pawing on me and could have easily attempted to pickpocket me as I was being jostled by the crowd. Most of the bars had the same problem as the high-end bars. The girls were old and / or fat. I found a couple of attractive girls in one bar and decided to settle in and have a beer just to get a break from the harassment outside. The bouncer was literally in my face the whole time I tried talking to the girl – first insisting I buy her a drink, then insisting that I buy her a 70 k drink. I am the most mild-mannered person you will ever meet but I was moments away from beating the crap out of this dude. He didn't get the hint when I told him to get the fuck out of my face in English so I just left. After shoving my way out of the bar, I crossed the street and went to Texas bar. It was much more civilized and laid-back. But, again, I didn't see any young spinners in there. That's when I gave up and went back to Santa Fe.

Photoprepago – I won't get into too much detail because this report is already way too long. But I did two dates on Photoprepago. The first girl was lactating which I though was pretty cool. She was also very eager to please. She wouldn't do bareback so I went for anal. Unfortunately, we had a messy situation. She was a trooper. She cleaned us both up and proceeded to give a BBBJ until I finished. The second girl I met at her place in Usaquen. Even though she agreed to uncovered sex for a substantial upcharge, she was an absolute cold fish in bed and definitely not worth it.

Bottom line: If you are going to Bogota, I recommend sticking to Santa Fe and banging as many girls as you possibly can in the time allotted (and if you are into bareback, you can definitely get what you want). Woodman69 is a great resource to get you started in that regard. You should also get a Thai massage at Baw Thai and eat at Arepas la Reina.

[Riina]

I don't ask for IDs in verification of age so I would have no idea. It is easy to pick the chicks that are too young out because of their clothes.

I ask for ID. Walk away if she does not show proof. Without that small discipline, you should not be mongering.

[Mr Enternational]

I am careful to avoid under 19s but frankly, most of the girls I see tend to look rough and older anyway so making a conscious effort to go for younger in the areas I walked yielded early to mid 20's who if lucky looked their age, not prematurely aged. Is checking the ID a secure enough way to be sure they are of age?

I take my hat off to you for being able to date young girls without paying at all in spite of being middle aged. You must have great game or have a certain kind of look that attracts young women. If I remember correctly, you are in Pattaya too so not paying sounds remarkable. Even young good looking guys I know there almost always pay something unless they pull other tourists.

I don't ask for IDs in verification of age so I would have no idea. It is easy to pick the chicks that are too young out because of their clothes. They don't wear grown women style clothes. They wear clothes and shoes that are appropriate for their age group. For instance I was down on Degrieff in Medellin and saw some chicks wearing like Minnie Mouse shirts and colorful little sneakers. It was obvious but just to confirm I asked. 15! Then they taunted me about being scared. I said damn right I am scared.

Maybe the difference with me is that I don't seek particular things out. I just fall into shit. I see a lot of guys going out looking for this, that, and the other, but I show up and say I like her, her, her, without any preconceived thing in mind.

When I meet chicks on dating sites I hate when they ask what are you looking for. Many do not understand when I say I am not looking for anything. What are you offering? I am just there to fall into whatever I happen to fall into. It is probably because of this that I am never disappointed as I may be if I set out looking for a 19 year old chick with big boobs and a size 5 shoe.

In 2006 I was on the dating site and a chick in Cali hit me up. She confessed that she was not 18 as her profile said, but only 16. I told her to contact me when she turned 18 then because I did not need those kind of problems. She protested saying her parents would not mind. Nope. Lo and behold, 2 years later on her birthday she hit me up again. I went to see her and we started a relationship. Her parents always made me stay at their house. Of course I was on the couch and not sleeping in her bedroom. Her mom would cook 3 meals a day for us. Neither her nor her parents ever asked me for anything. That was 2008, so I was 36 back then and she was 18.

Now I am 47. A few weeks ago on Tagged a 25 year old chick with no kids in Pattaya hit me up. We got to talking and she said she works at a shirt shop in the mall. So we started hanging out a lot on her off days. I noticed she had a Galaxy S10. Hmmm. My last day in Pattaya before coming back to the States she came over to my place when she got off work. I saw she had on a Samsung t-shirt and I said they gave you a shirt with your phone? Then I saw she had on a Samsung jacket. She said I work there. I laughed and said why you tell me you worked in a shirt shop then? All she ever asked from me was to go to dinner on a side of town that she had never been to and to go to the movies to see Godzilla. So now she is my main girl, but I did not go seeking her out. I just sorta fell into her.

It is the same thing with 3 somes, videoing chicks, and other kind of crazy shit. It just happens. I don't go out looking for it. That is probably why you will hardly ever see a bad report from me. I go with the flow and there are no particular things that I am looking for and must have.

[Taiwan Laowai]

Thanks for sharing your experience in Bogota.

1. What is best area in this country to find thicker and taller (think certain Dominican Republic or Brazilian types)?
Cali has thicker, darker complexioned girls. I have heard a lot of guys say that Cali is heaven for Ass lovers.

Cucuta is ground zero and the 'Port of Entry for Venezuelans. Looking forward to your report and whether it is still worth visiting Cucuta.

~BKKguru

I would have thought Buenaventura might even be better but one of the Colombian heavyweights (Tall Man) said the attitudes were terrible there when he visited. I do remember that some of the Afro Caleneas I met back in early 2000's had a very classy and elegant way of speaking. This was not as much the case for those I met up in Cartagena.

So far, I can say if you looking for a GFE, low prices, and virtually no gringos, Cucuta near Hotel Mary might be a great place to spend a few days. It's not as dangerous as you would expect because the police patrol the area intensively at night. But sometimes they disrupt things together with migracion workers by rounding up the girls and doing spot checks in the clubs. Basically, I have found Tall Man's reports spot-on and a good road map for strategizing. Tomorrow, I will see what the strip is like during the day as so far, I've only been out at night. Unfortunately, as Mr. Enternational pointed out, as working girls, most of them seem to have kids. Perhaps I can find some exceptions. Let's see.

[BKKguru]

Questions to the experienced Colombia hands:

1. What is best area in this country to find thicker and taller (think certain Dominican Republic or Brazilian types)? I first thought of Buena Ventura but Tall Man told me attitude is bad there. He actually recommended certain clubs in Centro of Medellin for that type (I sent him photos)..

Thanks for sharing your experience in Bogota.

1. What is best area in this country to find thicker and taller (think certain Dominican Republic or Brazilian types)?
Cali has thicker, darker complexioned girls. I have heard a lot of guys say that Cali is heaven for Ass lovers.

Cucuta is ground zero and the 'Port of Entry' for Venezuelans. Looking forward to your report and whether Cucuta is worth visiting.

BKKguru

[Taiwan Laowai]

Nice fun trip you had. Can you share some of the photos? Do you think with rush of gringos prices going up?

I didn't take photos in those places and when I go out in Cucuta an night, I leave the phone in the room.

I didn't sense there is upward price pressure in either Bogota or Cucuta because most of the gringos as I know flock to Medellin.

[Taiwan Laowai]

That is actually a horrible strategy since there are many chicks out that are not old enough.

Colombia is neither DR nor Brazil, so you really should not go there with that in mind. But if you twisted my arm, then I would say somewhere along the coast, Barranquilla, Cartagena, Santa Marta. (What is in my mind is normal chicks that I have met or seen over the years. I can not speak for P4P.)

That would depend on you. If you are talking about paying someone, then most younger chicks that don't have kids will not be interested IMHO. Most chicks get into P4P because they have kids that they can't afford. If you are talking about free, then like I said, that depends on you and your game.

Thanks for your replies Mr. Enternational.

I am careful to avoid under 19s but frankly, most of the girls I see tend to look rough and older anyway so making a conscious effort to go for younger in the areas I walked yielded early to mid 20's who if lucky looked their age, not prematurely aged. Is checking the ID a secure enough way to be sure they are of age?

I take my hat off to you for being able to date young girls without paying at all in spite of being middle aged. You must have great game or have a certain kind of look that attracts young women. If I remember correctly, you are in Pattaya too so not paying sounds remarkable. Even young good looking guys I know there almost always pay something unless they pull other tourists. Bangkok is a lot better in that regard though for the younger guys.

In Philippines, I've found it doable to date some decent university educated attractive young girls w no kids but still, there is a sugar daddy element involved as I usually help them out with this and that. There have been exceptions here and there but usually young girls, unless they are from the broad or narrow elite class don't have that much money when they are students or newly graduated. Heck, when I was a student, I was broke too.

Right now, I have near zero game as most of the Spanish I had seems to have disappeared.

My reason for coming to Colombia over DR or Brazil this time was lower cost, better safety, and generally better infrastructure and attitude towards Americans. I figured that it's an ethnically diverse enough country that certain areas might have the bigger Brazilian and DR types but that assumption was probably largely incorrect.

[Taiwan Laowai]

I forgot to mention that I did encounter one chubby 19 year old Colombian white girl in Santa Fe who is my type and I would rate her a solid 7 or perhaps even 8 except that she had already had a kid and it showed a bit though the damage was less than with most. Got her whats app and hope to repeat if I go back to Bogota during this trip.

The girls I mentioned on the street in that area of Santa Fe look of age, just not pushing 30's, more like 20 ish. The two I met there were 20 and 21 respectively and one did not have child. A lot of the girls standing around are more in mid to late 20's but combined with hard lives they've had, their bodies tend to look much older once clothe come off. So with the tight clothes on, they can have some nice shapes but it's usually just an illusion, especially with the larger types.

Going back to my trips to Colombia in early 2000's, I did meet through a dating site one tall hot Dominican type in Cartagena. She was 18 years old, 5'10" and had a classic pear shape, maybe 80+ kgs. But solid and firm. Nobody else I met in Colombia were up to her standard though a couple in Cali came kinda close.

[Mr Enternational]

I think best strategy to reduce this issue is to go for the youngest looking girls standing around Calle 24 and Cra. 16 if I remember area right.

That is actually a horrible strategy since there are many chicks out that are not old enough.

What is best area in this country to find thicker and taller (think certain Dominican Republic or Brazilian types)?

Colombia is neither DR nor Brazil, so you really should not go there with that in mind. But if you twisted my arm, then I would say somewhere along the coast, Barranquilla, Cartagena, Santa Marta. (What is in my mind is normal chicks that I have met or seen over the years. I can not speak for P4P.)

how easy or difficult have you found it to establish close relationships with much younger local girls from reasonable class and w / out kids.

That would depend on you. If you are talking about paying someone, then most younger chicks that don't have kids will not be interested IMHO. Most chicks get into P4P because they have kids that they can't afford. If you are talking about free, then like I said, that depends on you and your game.