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06-19-19 05:49 #45491
Posts: 12856Originally Posted by Pita123 [View Original Post]
BB said more natural looking girls in PP, but I am not sure I noticed that. Many guys don't care and may not even suspect a nose job (they are getting so abundant these days). A very subtle one can still be a pass for me, but some of the Thai TV big stars have quite ugly nose jobs to my taste, and I think how on earth did she get to be the leading lady, with such a distracting nose? Do Thai men get nose jobs or sillies? Not much if they are not a LB. I guess only the gay guys dye the hair blonde too.
BB mentioned more relaxed, and better attitude girls. I think that is important. No one needs a pressure bar.
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06-19-19 05:41 #45490
Posts: 12856Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
I have been to Phat Phong again a few times, also with Natty. There are signs of improvement. Some bars were still a bit over rated, like Bada Bing, Electric Blue (I think as the name) and Black Pagoda. Some bars still had a lot of surgeries. However good signs of improvement, so that definitely an option, in the Kings Castle group.
One day sitting with Natty, the girl I liked happened to be same girl I had previously fucked in Twisters at Nana. Took me a few minutes to realise I knew her already. So that means the girls were not especially superior to my taste but competitive, and fine for those less fussy about "enhanced girls".
There are sections with whole rows of ladyboy bars, or something else wrong I forget the detail now. Some bars have Coyotes that can't be barfined I think. However selecting the right bars, can be fine. As I used to stay in Silom are a lot, could be even convenient. Taxi can get to Phat Phong late at night in just 10 minutes or so from Sukhumvit, depending on starting point (I guess I am thinking of getting there from Cowboy straight down Ratchadaphisek).
As I like a bit of full nudity, I might be converted if full nudity comes in, and naturally topless with G string would be a huge bonus (near enough to nude). I have not been there enough to be really expert. I certainly used Phat Phong bars a lot in the early 90's, avoiding the rip off joints. I think regular customers do not have a problem with rip offs so much but some rip off bars may still exist.
Now that Cowboy has rip off bars, abundant Coyotes and ladyboys, abundant surgeries girls, and the doll look intended for the Asian customers, and abundant fatties and uglies in some bars, it definitely falls well below the standard of yesteryear. No advantages over Nana and Phat Phong that it used to have. I have basically quit Crazy House now. Kazy is possible for occasional visit (with skinny girls) but don't like the frequency of shows. Yet to actually BF there. Scared of the pretty girl's inexperience and shyness. Tough to tell if she will be fine or another dud. In Nana I don't really find any bar to consistently interest me now with Billboard still the best for me, to have some superior looking skinny girls. Pretty faces, not that many but some. Cowboy still has some bars with full nudity, however standard of the girls varies. I can ignore a bar full of nude fatties (e. G. Long Gun) as long as there are 1 or 2 girls worth looking at. Had a visits to Doll House and Lighthouse but did not find any girl sufficiently interesting to the fussy spec. Shows the decline of Cowboy for me.
I still need a basically natural and skinny girl bar showing the body properly. Alas too many bars, cannot see the tits properly. Can't stand double layer bras. My visits to bars declines greatly, and prefer to visit known girls, maybe in the bar, maybe outside. I don't have the psychology where need to fuck every girl, so don't have to keep changing girls, and increasingly the probability of crappy sessions. No point changing from a good girl to a bad one.
Plenty of girls I tried, sadly disappeared from contactability, so don't know where they went. Otherwise would still be repeating them.
Its all about specific girls for me, not really bars, but have to be able to find a good girl or two. Would be silly to stick to one bar area. Have to try Phat Phong as well if time available, unless giving it all away. Actually I don't use Soi 22 bars at all, it seems like an expat style area with girls of consistently low quality looks (at least I did not find anything). We never seem to get reports about specific bars there, only MPs, and I usually struggle to find anything much in the MPs there as well. Definitely the soi for very average girls. I bet there are few Japanese there (at a guess).
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06-19-19 04:25 #45489
Posts: 3497Originally Posted by BananaBoi [View Original Post]
I was in Bangkok the last couple of weeks. Soi Cowboy did suck and is a shell of it's old self. Nana was pretty good though. I didn't try patpong due to it sucking so bad in the past.
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06-19-19 01:42 #45488
Posts: 1294Originally Posted by BananaBoi [View Original Post]
Any specific bar suggestions?
Any good ST hotels in those sois?
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06-19-19 00:00 #45487
Posts: 463Thanks for the heads up LOL.
Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
When in a bar I look for the ones on the fresher end of the spectrum.
I love the Asian concept of "over the hill" for females.
I heard it is 25 yo?
The "leftovers" in society?
I believe my preference is based on my experience that.
"in general" the higher the mileage on a hooker (lifetime customers serviced) the shittier the attitude and service.
This is a generalization and of course there are always outliers and YMMV.
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06-18-19 22:28 #45486
Posts: 3497Originally Posted by CzarNicholas [View Original Post]
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06-18-19 21:21 #45485
Posts: 2933Originally Posted by GrapeMan [View Original Post]
If you look at Smooci, it has a much wider range of prices. Inside Thermae, the flexibility is often in the form of services provided. The less desirable ones usually offer more or better services, and will be more flexible. The prices are also more flexible outside Thermae, LB or not, also when they make deal outside after closing time.
I am pretty sure one will see price lowered if the girls are like stocked merchandise that has an associated capital cost.
I don't disagree with members who say there is no free market. That is one perspective but that also means US is not a free market. That is not the definition some other members used here so we are really discussing two different things that happen to have the same name.
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06-18-19 18:48 #45484
Posts: 6308Originally Posted by Pita123 [View Original Post]
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06-18-19 18:36 #45483
Posts: 1294Originally Posted by Syzygies [View Original Post]
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06-18-19 09:08 #45482
Posts: 463A question for the erudite
Why do we pay a hooker for intercourse?(sure I like to think I don't, I only pay them to go away hahaha).
If a man and a hooker are say both "9's" or even "8's" or "7's".
Why do we pay her for sex and what are we getting for the money?
Why she getting cash for something she likes to do for free?
If you look why women want money / resources in the non hooker market, it might be said they are at risk of pregnancy and at one point many years ago HIV.
Which begs the question what are the guys that are paying for sex with a hooker and using a condom, paying for and why?
If a hooker that is a "9" or "10" has sex with an "unattractive" guy one might say that's why hes paying?
If you take age out of the equation, what does that leave?
I'm 51 yo I like 18-19 yo hookers.
I don't think I look 51 yo if I'm asking about their age and they happen to ask mine I always say 29 yo.
1-2 in the last few yrs have said I think you're older than that, but my age should me moot.
Why do so many of us happily pay for what is ordinarily free for 99.999999% of the species.
My personal answer is probably the age differential.
I'm 51 yo I cannot go into a club and get an 18 yo 7 days a week.
I want to be like mr tooms when I'm 67 with his 21 yo GF that's a 46 yr differential.
I want to be 77 yo with an 18 yo GF.
And 87 yo.
And 97 yo.
I'm sure behavioral psychologists could add many chapters to my summary.
But if you can please opine.
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06-18-19 07:47 #45481
Posts: 673Originally Posted by CzarNicholas [View Original Post]
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06-18-19 07:43 #45480
Posts: 5452Originally Posted by GrapeMan [View Original Post]
A newbie, first time Bkk punter would know more about the competition in terms of price and service from one venue to another in 2 nights than most seasoned P4P girls will ever know or will ever care to know.
There is the rare crossover where a previous Thermae girl finds herself standing in front of Nana Hotel trying to pull customers. But she probably becomes quickly discouraged when she discovers her 2,500 baht going rate in Thermae is a non starter out in the wild.
I think they don't know because they don't care to know, don't want to reveal that they don't know and therefore never ask, never question what they are doing and for how much, don't really approach any of it as a business in that way. That would require effort. And a willingness to admit to themselves that they actually are working in the sex for pay industry. It isn't so much that their practice of raising their price when customer traffic is low is a bad business model, it is that they have no business model at all. All they know is they didn't make as much money this week as they did last week so they have to start asking for more.
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06-18-19 07:42 #45479
Posts: 2933Originally Posted by Gannaton48 [View Original Post]
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06-18-19 06:44 #45478
Posts: 159Thaniya
Originally Posted by BananaBoi [View Original Post]
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06-18-19 05:54 #45477
Posts: 351Originally Posted by Syzygies [View Original Post]
Thats a big Thai thing, dropping prices to get more business just isn't a concept that is prevalent in Thailand (or SE Asia). They'd rather get MUCH less business at more cash than be "degraded' by being cheap, even if it means less money overall, they don't understand the trade offs of cheaper + more customers and such once they've raised the prices, that's generally the price and its not going back down. These girls, and hell a lot of the service industry in Thailand, just have a completely different concept of pricing structures than the West.