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[Nice Guy 99]

If guys want to really help a woman, finding her a job would be better than sending money.

I saw a working girl for 5+ years. We really came to know each other well and it was a very satisfying relationship. To really help her I found her a husband by working the dating sites with her. We remain good friends. She is happy in her marriage. It's something I feel really good about.

[Mogwai]

Only going by what I have seen on these mongering streets and on this mongering board. It does not happen to me because I do not entertain the opportunity for it to happen to me.

You are only confirming what I was already thinking. You seem to assume that all the girls (and maybe even all people) will try to take advantage of you, so you're taking precautions beforehand and set up a defense mechanism. I agree with you that we have to be careful, but in my experience we do not always need such a defense mechanism because there also quite a lot of girls out there who are nice and honest.

[D Cups]

As usual trolling through DIA looking for new conquests for my upcoming trip. Also keeping old trusted conquests as back ups. Have made a list of some promised, confirmed, compensation agreed and also some on the fence and some others said things to me I cannot repeat here.

I always chat with saying I will be in town and can they stay with me? 90 percent immediately agree. Next I ask for the phone number. Some answers are why? (why did they yes to my question), Do not have phone or contact apps, do not have money (even if she lives 10 minutes away), need to take care of the baby (profile says no kids) , mother sick and cannot live her alone, have a job and no free time (profile says no work), in the remote province now (can you send money to come), pregnant (can I have your last name for the baby- no joking!) , virgin (26 years old waiting for marriage, maybe she went to Korea for hymen replacement) , looking for committed relationship only (already has a kid, how committed is she) , can you support my studies by sending money now because of deadline for sign up, can you support my family? (they do not have any money to eat but surviving on air) By now I am down to 5 percent but realistically I raise it up to 50 percent because I keep adding new chats (my ingenious math) only to come down again to 20 percent..

Too funny and too familiar, Sam, and a helluva lotta work! But somebody's got to do it!

[Sammon]

As usual trolling through DIA looking for new conquests for my upcoming trip. Also keeping old trusted conquests as back ups. Have made a list of some promised, confirmed, compensation agreed and also some on the fence and some others said things to me I cannot repeat here.

I always chat with saying I will be in town and can they stay with me? 90 percent immediately agree. Next I ask for the phone number. Some answers are why? (why did they yes to my question), Do not have phone or contact apps, do not have money (even if she lives 10 minutes away), need to take care of the baby (profile says no kids) , mother sick and cannot live her alone, have a job and no free time (profile says no work), in the remote province now (can you send money to come), pregnant (can I have your last name for the baby- no joking!) , virgin (26 years old waiting for marriage, maybe she went to Korea for hymen replacement) , looking for committed relationship only (already has a kid, how committed is she) , can you support my studies by sending money now because of deadline for sign up, can you support my family? (they do not have any money to eat but surviving on air) By now I am down to 5 percent but realistically I raise it up to 50 percent because I keep adding new chats (my ingenious math) only to come down again to 20 percent.

Next step is coming to a consensus. Chat starts on social apps cam to cam (some dropped due to their pics misleading, I do not like to call anybody ugly) , where to meet (some do not like to come to hotel, okay with me but I have had bad experiences with whole family showing up for a free meal) , length of stay (some do not like staying the night because all night fucking will hurt their pussy) compensation (some outrageous amount 50000 pesos for three nights (you read it right pussy is not gold anymore, more like rare earth minerals), transportation costs (one girl demanded 10000 pesos, checked online and it is 300 pesos by bus, no she does not like the bus, she likes car hire or a limo, granted she is 4 hours away and it will be dangerous for her beautiful body LOL) Now my math says I am down to 10 percent and cannot find any new replenishments on my chosen area.

My plan is working fine. Now to put the plan to work (Need real intelligence for this) Slots for girls (no double booking) I am trying very hard to accommodate everybody (Money budgeted, Viagra stocked, New condoms bought (just in case).

Trip is next week and the story to be continued (This is how it goes every time I go on mongering trip. Some trips are great and others I wish to forget).

Excited to meet all new pussies and hopefully no smell and they give me good sex (that is if they show up).

Back up plan with older, trusted conquests are waiting for my call (I do not tell them the date or hotel venue).

[Mr Enternational]

You always seem to think that people will immediately take advantage of you when you are nice to them.

Only going by what I have seen on these mongering streets and on this mongering board. It does not happen to me because I do not entertain the opportunity for it to happen to me. And I have NEVER said not to be nice to anyone or to treat anyone bad. All I have said is to beware and to be careful.

Everyone is not your friend. I had a coworker that was in Italy with a friend. They met some guys and hung out with them all day. At the end of the day, they guys stole their purses and disappeared. In other threads there are guys talking about they let known hookers care for their wallets during the day. One of my best friends married a hooker and moved her to the USA. Ended up that she was cheating in him. Now he has to pay for 1 kid that is his and 1 kid that is not his. Again, all I am saying is to be careful. But of course I know that experience is the best teacher, and even sometimes experience can't teach someone shit.

[Mogwai]

There is also a thin line bewteen respecting someone and playing somebody's fool.

You always seem to think that people will immediately take advantage of you when you are nice to them.

[Mogwai]

Not true at all. Because you see, you can do the same exact thing in Miami, Las Vegas, LOS Angeles, but it will cost you more. Now tell me the girls there that you see hanging out on yachts and have guys flying then all over and the ones hanging out on sugarbaby sites have no other choice. EVERYONE has a choice.

You are comparing apples and oranges here. Those girls in a rich country like the US have much more choice than the girls in the Phils. Yes, they can try to get a 'normal' job but it will be hard or even impossible to find, while in the meantime their babies and / or family need food.

[Bushes]

Have not skimmed the 50 odd posts since this post but I tend to agree. My replies are usually buried because it needs editorial approval so time is not of the essence and will skim them when time permits. IMHO, budgeting is just a matter of common sense and self control. If one lacks either, it is a battle. Some women will go on a shopping spree if they feel down. Many can afford so it is not a problem. Unless a guy is footing the bill. I try not to be judgmental or laugh when I am told these stories.

Glad your personal situation worked out well. IMHO, unfortunately, it leads to some very bitter and resentful recipients. As they say, no good deed goes unpunished.

There were some very funny videos online showing young Chinese, I assume, shrew going tampo when sugar daddy did not buy her the car she wanted at the dealer.

I do the same with my girls here as I did with my kids when I was married with young children.

Their money was their money, they could do with it what they wanted but there would be no more until next allowance due.

With my kids they knew what they had to pay for themselves and what we would pay for. If they went out and spend the day after allowance day at the video arcade and blew all their money on games and candy then they were broke until next allowance day. As they got older and better at handling money the allowance got more, the times between allowances got longer and the expectations of what they had to pay for got increased. As 8 year olds it was something like $3 a week and all they had to pay for themselves was entertainment and candy. By the time they were in grade 12 it was more like $150 a month and they had to pay for most clothes, school lunches (but they could pack a lunch from home for free) etc..

[Blue Touch]

Law of diminishing return could apply to women as well. The second date with your girl would give you a less pleasure than the first date with her, and the 3rd date less pleasure than the second. Skilled courtesan and mistresses have known this for a long time and they used a few tactics. They made themselves less available to the guys, and often convinced the guys that their meeting could be the last meeting because they found a better deal or they just lost interested in them. Guys were struck with joy when the girls "came back" to them after the girls had said that they would not see the guys any more. Also, they changed their appearance routinely to look new. Often they increased their price assuming that the price would determine the value, rather than the other way around.

As for the diminishing marginal return from the guys, as you say, it suggests that the value of your charm and the (same amount of) money you give declines in time. As you say, therefore, not sending money would be best. Also, you can let the girl think that she is one of many girls you are dealing with and you can leave her any time. This is what I do always. Usually I like only one girl at a casa, but I visit the venue several times and pick different girls to establish and maintain uncertainty and competition. All the girls I pick are happy. If I picked the same one girl all the time, she wouldn't be that happy. Also I frequently decline invitations from my regulars. If guys want to really help a woman, finding her a job would be better than sending money.

There is an abundance of information out there warning horny suckers not to send money to women. Yet, many sex-starved fools will throw their money down the rabbit hole. Many of the men doing this cannot afford the financial loss that comes from falling for romance swindles. A significant number are lonely elderly men who subsist on meagre pensions and cat food. Others are middle-aged men who think with their dicks. They choose to ignore the evidence that domesticating pussy is risky business, especially financial captive breeding programs. Some will make multiple attempts at such projects until landing in bankruptcy.

Briffault provided these three corollaries to his law:

Even though a woman has accrued past benefits from her relationship with a man, this is no guarantee of her continuing the relationship with him. (Translation: What have you done for me lately?

If a woman promises a man to continue her relationship with him in the future in exchange for a benefit received from him today, her promise becomes null and void as soon as the benefit is rendered. ("I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today..

[Kabul Guy]

But you would not expect said plumber to come over and say he doesn't like unclogging pipes and refuse. Are you still going to pay him and send him happily on his way? Because in the other thread dude said a hooker came over and said she didn't like to do blow jobs. You don't get treated well for just showing up and calling yourself an xyz. You get treated well for living up to your job description.

Some plumbers out there only work on new installs and do not do repair or maintenance services.

While I would expect someone to tell me up front that they did not do a service I was obviously, or at least could be expected to be looking for if they did come and then refuse I would politely send them on their way without pay, or a reduced pay if they did not do the full range of services I had asked for.

Post bad reviews, warnings to others and never call again.

Yes she should have said that her services were limited and did not include services commonly offered. That was wrong on her part but two wrongs do not make a right. (however 3 lefts do make a right LOL).

[Mr Enternational]

I agree, why would you hire a plumber to come to your house to provide a service and treat him like shit?

Why would you hire a girl to come to your house or elsewhere to provide a service and treat her like shit?

But you would not expect said plumber to come over and say he doesn't like unclogging pipes and refuse. Are you still going to pay him and send him happily on his way? Because in the other thread dude said a hooker came over and said she didn't like to do blow jobs. You don't get treated well for just showing up and calling yourself an xyz. You get treated well for living up to your job description.

[Member #4698]

Treat them right and do not be a penny pinching A hole. Nobody is saying you need to send money on demand or give exorbitant compensation. I know not all mongers are rich. They want to have fun cheaply. In doing this you are playing with lives. Compensate well, enjoy and most of all treat girls like your girlfriend with respect irrespective of short time or long time.

Isn't it funny that those of us that treat our girls good are the ones having the best time. I like the girls. Treating them good comes natural to me as does the return on my investment and friendliness.

Sure, poverty is one of the reasons, maybe the primary reason, many girls enter this line of business, having just had a baby and simultaneously dumped by their boyfriend, but Mr E is right too when he points out that a many girls elect to be hookers or at least choose to stay in the business because they enjoy the lifestyle and the money. I know a number of good looking Burgos and BKK Go Go girls that are doing quite well. They would not change places with a waitress or a sales girl even if there was a social safety net. Now finding a wealthy out of country sponsor and living off his support, that's another issue, although its related to the subject at hand. Ha Ha.

[Kabul Guy]

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Compensate well, enjoy and most of all treat girls like your girlfriend with respect irrespective of short time or long time.

I agree, why would you hire a plumber to come to your house to provide a service and treat him like shit?

Why would you hire a girl to come to your house or elsewhere to provide a service and treat her like shit?

[Mr Enternational]

Truth is we as mongers have a good thing going because of poverty in some countries we go to. Availability of girls are plenty because they have no other choices to make a life.

Not true at all. Because you see, you can do the same exact thing in Miami, Las Vegas, LOS Angeles, but it will cost you more. Now tell me the girls there that you see hanging out on yachts and have guys flying then all over and the ones hanging out on sugarbaby sites have no other choice. EVERYONE has a choice.

There was a football player that was in Miami a couple of weeks ago. He had 2 chicks stay with him. The next morning they robbed him for $500,000 worth of shit when he left them hoes in his crib and went out to exercise. Same thing, different place, different price. But all had a choice.

[Sammon]

Thanks for writing this. I've often been tempted to write something similar and have refrained. Treating these young women as human beings who are worthy of respect also elicits another benefit in that the women tend to appreciate your attitude, develop some respect for you, and generally treat you better than they would the archetypal monger who de personalizes them and treats them contemptuously.

GE.

Everybody says these girls should not be in the business of selling their bodies for money. Everybody claims since they are the buyers they can treat them any which way they want.

Truth is we as mongers have a good thing going because of poverty in some countries we go to. Availability of girls are plenty because they have no other choices to make a life. Of course there are bad apples but nobody deserved to be treated badly.

Treat them right and do not be a penny pinching A hole. Nobody is saying you need to send money on demand or give exorbitant compensation. I know not all mongers are rich. They want to have fun cheaply. In doing this you are playing with lives.

Compensate well, enjoy and most of all treat girls like your girlfriend with respect irrespective of short time or long time.