East China - Shanghai

[Steve 9696]

Whilst food at Blind Pig on Nanyang Lu is still as bad as ever. It has never been any good since re-branding from Big Bamboo and menu totally changed. There is now a new Mexican Cantina right above BP. It looks pretty good inside but I did not try the food.

The Spot new location right next door to Judy's was absolutely hopping when first opened in May. You could not get a seat in there. July 6 which was first night Judy re-opening the place was deserted and they were all not next door in Judy's. Strange indeed.

I love the food at the Blind Pig. The barbecue sliders are good and the Mac and cheese is great. I would die without the Blind Pig as the Manhattan warmup.

[DaneInChina]

Yeah, I refuse to monger with the wechat connected to my identity. Way too dangerous.

I buy sim cards from hotel concierge, even if I'm not staying there. They're supposed to register you with your passport, but for 100 rmb many will just register it in a fake name (or their own name). Then you switch back and forth between your real account and the bogus one.

When the government arrests someone, 1st thing they do is investigate wechat conversations. Even if you delete a conversation, it's forever available to the government. Maybe I'm paranoid but prefer to err on the side of caution. Too many contributors to this thread have faced arrest and detention.

Don't feel too safe just by using a different SIM card. All mobile phones are equipped with a unique IMEI number. Who knows if that information also is sent as meta data whenever you send a WeChat message? If, so you have to get rid of the mobile, not only the SIM card. Having said that I doubt that you will get in problems other than having your WeChat blocked if you write something inappropriate.

Personally I think life is too short to think of ways to hide from big brother anywhere in the world. You are not anonymous anywhere on earth. And you always make a footprint somewhere. So live with it.

There is a lot of writing about people having been arrested and put to jail. Anybody who can give examples for "normal customers" having faced that. Or is it just rumours?

Daneinchina.

[Bad Boy Billy]

Whilst food at Blind Pig on Nanyang Lu is still as bad as ever. It has never been any good since re-branding from Big Bamboo and menu totally changed. There is now a new Mexican Cantina right above BP. It looks pretty good inside but I did not try the food.

The Spot new location right next door to Judy's was absolutely hopping when first opened in May. You could not get a seat in there. July 6 which was first night Judy re-opening the place was deserted and they were all not next door in Judy's. Strange indeed.

[Mi Se]

Hello,

Seems like the dry period is over, did anybody in the meantime have any positive reports about a MP with he (ideally in Jing'an but also others like 1565 Huashan Lu)?

I've read that spring is only accepted regulars, is this still valid or are they also accepting new customers now?

As I'm not sure if they will identify me as regular as I haven't been quite some time.

Thanks!

[The Guy]

Not possible within a single account, but you can create two accounts (I think you'll need different telephone numbers, but you can always register in another country with a pre-pay sim. Then create an account & password, and you won't need to use the sms login again. This also adds a layer of protection of your real identity in case a provider / agent is compromised, but who knows just how much information wechat actually has on you.

Yeah, I refuse to monger with the wechat connected to my identity. Way too dangerous.

I buy sim cards from hotel concierge, even if I'm not staying there. They're supposed to register you with your passport, but for 100 rmb many will just register it in a fake name (or their own name). Then you switch back and forth between your real account and the bogus one.

When the government arrests someone, 1st thing they do is investigate wechat conversations. Even if you delete a conversation, it's forever available to the government. Maybe I'm paranoid but prefer to err on the side of caution. Too many contributors to this thread have faced arrest and detention.

[Midwestern]

Anyone ever used this site? http://shanghaigirlslist.com.

Over 500 hundred girls listed, but Looks like heavy photoshopped.

I looked at the Changning girls. They all are 168 cm and 49 kg, isn't it funny? And almost all them are 26 old, with a few 27 or 31.

If it's too good to be true, then it's too good to be true.

Anyway, I looked at it, and they all have the same WeChat and same phone number. So, here's what will happen: you contact them, and ask for person X, and they'll say sure. But the person that arrives is an ugly, fat, 45 year old. You're drink, so you just say WTF and proceed. But then she will up sell. Finally she will rush. I learned this from experience from using similar sites. But why not TOFTT?

[RobSH]

BTW: Does anybody know how to hide a contact in the WeChat contact list? Or how do you explain all the 20 year old stunners, naughty conversations and pictures in case that, let's say your pastor, opens the app?

Not possible within a single account, but you can create two accounts (I think you'll need different telephone numbers, but you can always register in another country with a pre-pay sim. Then create an account & password, and you won't need to use the sms login again. This also adds a layer of protection of your real identity in case a provider / agent is compromised, but who knows just how much information wechat actually has on you.

[Steve 9696]

Good to hear from you! Not sure if Shanghai is still in the cards but I have been watching to see what I have been missing. As I am in my mid 50's and don't live in shanghai, I always loved the appeal of J / M. Its one of the few places in the world that I can walk in a bar and be so "handsome" all the girls want me (haha I mean my wallet). IT's a fantasy and I swear I enjoy the shopping as much as the post shopping experience.

I hope to get back someday. Hopefully I still have the juice and the girls are still there by time I get there!

I am completely with you SamCan — the buffet experience at Manhattan is as much fun as the in room time. Each time I go I say "I am going to hold out for at least a half hour and enjoy the buffet" (of hotties) and every time within ten minutes I am smitten by some petite Viet lass and off we go. But I will keep trying! (As long as it's open).

Going to São Paulo soon and get a similar experience at the Boate. More in club time there. Brasileiras tend to be less pushy and you can have lots of dancing and flirting time before hittting the room. (No extra charge).

[NightLife17]

However, I have a recommendation for you. On NLO, there is Mochi.

Thanks Alfonso; I only wanted to correct a minor detail. She is called Omochi. Old mongerers know her by Kim.

[AlfonsoStronzo]

I am new to the forum, used to get my info about Shanghai from another site which is a shadow of its past. I am mongering since I am 18 and by the time it got more and more intense (now for more than 20 years). I am traveling frequently and want to share some of my experiences in order to start my career on this site. I have spent 5 days in Shanghai last week and visit the city 2-3 times per year. That being said, visiting this city in the last 2 years is an almost heartbreaking experience. I am a very big fan of saunas and Shanghai was heaven for me. The German forum, in which Steven was active too, gave me wonderful info. My favorites have been Siping 777 and the one near the football stadium number. 666. I also visited dozens of other saunas but I had unforgettable experiences in those two, especially Siping with an unbeatable price / value ratio. Those were the days, my friend. At that time, and more frequently after the crackdown on saunas, I went to M and J. This time I was lucky, because they re-opened just on my first day in Shanghai. There were not many girls and the rich Chinese dudes waved with money but on both evenings I managed to bring excellent talents home. Really great looking and nice performing. I won't go into details because YMMV and you know the game. Very nice naughty GF experiences. One thing I now do is to collect the WeChat contacts of all girls I meet. In case that there is another crackdown. BTW: Does anybody know how to hide a contact in the WeChat contact list? Or how do you explain all the 20 year old stunners, naughty conversations and pictures in case that, let's say your pastor, opens the app? Sometimes I go to a massage place at Jing'An temple. Just follow the smaller street left of the Paramount movie theatre near the Jing'An metro station (not the main road). You'll then soon reach a family mart. Right side it is a staircase with a sign which reads "oil massage" (well, in fact it reads "oil wassage" They do HJs, provider was attractive, playing with the tits was OK and she played with my asshole to make me come harder. Damage was not high one year ago. After Steven got busted I did not use any outcall services in Shanghai. However, I have a recommendation for you. On NLO, there is Mochi. She is Vietnamese. I know here since many years, when her nickname was QQ and she worked at M. I always had a wonderful time with her. I booked ST but she was so tired after the action and decided to stay without charge. Hell, she could have stayed a week! We had a really good chemistry and she stayed with me the following day too. Without charging. We had lunch and coffee and she stayed until late. Just like a couple, but better. I don't think that you should expect anything like that. It simply happens or it doesn't. About a year later I saw her again for LT, this time I paid for the second one. She is absolutely horny, she simply needs it. She can also be a bit dominant, that's not necessarily my thing since I consider this to be my part. But she is not only very horny with wild fantasies, at the same time she has got a very nice personality, fantastic body and great skills. She writes in her NLO-profile that she is "a little bit addicted to sex" - fully confirm, and not just a bit. Her prices went up since she is doing this escort thing instead of M, but she is worth the money. I'll add some more info for this trip in the Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macao sections. Stay tuned. In case that anybody has some information where to get the Shanghai sauna experience, please share. And if someone knows how to hide the WeChat contacts (in a separate folder for example), please let me know.

[SamCan]

SAM! I miss reading about your splurges, man. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, As for J and M,. I haven't done takeout in about 10 years. I'm in my 50's. I don't want to haul my lazy ass to a bar at 11 pm, and overpay for beers and listen to loud music. I totally get the appeal. I did it for almost 10 years, from my mid 30s to mid 40s. It was a blast. But I'm lazy now. Just want to place an order. LOL.

Good to hear from you! Not sure if Shanghai is still in the cards but I have been watching to see what I have been missing. As I am in my mid 50's and don't live in shanghai, I always loved the appeal of J / M. Its one of the few places in the world that I can walk in a bar and be so "handsome" all the girls want me (haha I mean my wallet). IT's a fantasy and I swear I enjoy the shopping as much as the post shopping experience.

I hope to get back someday. Hopefully I still have the juice and the girls are still there by time I get there!

[ShanghaiLander]

Anyone ever used this site? http://shanghaigirlslist.com.

Over 500 hundred girls listed, but Looks like heavy photoshopped.

I looked at the Changning girls. They all are 168 cm and 49 kg, isn't it funny? And almost all them are 26 old, with a few 27 or 31.

[LargeM]

Anyone ever used this site? http://shanghaigirlslist.com.

Over 500 hundred girls listed, but Looks like heavy photoshopped.

[Midwestern]

I have not used the service since Steven's issues. I will agree with midwestern. That pricing sounds good to me.

I was at manhattans / Judy's in March. My average was about 1200 taking the girl back to my room. I was at the Portman so no taxi cost but still 1200-1400 RMB was kind of the new normal. No idea where M / J will be after this crackdown. I assume it will depend on girl availability.

The girls that go to M / Js are in for at least 2000-3000 usd for their visit (Visa, plane fare, hotel / food costs) depending on how long they stay. I have talked to a few that feel the pressure to make back their cost plus get a return. That's helped keep the market healthy.

SAM.

SAM! I miss reading about your splurges, man. Hope you get to come back someday, but given how things are going here, maybe you ain't missing much. Yeah, I was always nervous about contacting SNG, Rain, and other outcall agencies in both Shanghai and Beijing. And, as many of us know, over a dozen Johns did get arrested when Steven got busted because LE could find them using his assistant's phone. When Rain changed her WeChat a couple of times, just before she got busted, I said "f*ck this," and stopped using her too. So I like being able to contact the girls directly. Also, they seem to care about their reviews, so service is often pretty good. To NLO's credit, he has also posted some slightly negative reviews. So, overall, NLO has no fake profiles and the girls are incentivized to provide good service. As for J and M,. I haven't done takeout in about 10 years. I'm in my 50's. I don't want to haul my lazy ass to a bar at 11 pm, and overpay for beers and listen to loud music. I totally get the appeal. I did it for almost 10 years, from my mid 30s to mid 40s. It was a blast. But I'm lazy now. Just want to place an order. LOL.

[SamCan]

I hate to sound like a shill, but NLO is turning out to be reliable service, just as advertised. You can see what they offer in Classifieds. I especially like the fact that you can directly contact the girls. Also, with some prices at 1200, that's now *almost* cheaper than trying to get FS in an MP these days.

I have not used the service since Steven's issues. I will agree with midwestern. That pricing sounds good to me.

I was at manhattans / Judy's in March. My average was about 1200 taking the girl back to my room. I was at the Portman so no taxi cost but still 1200-1400 RMB was kind of the new normal. No idea where M / J will be after this crackdown. I assume it will depend on girl availability.

The girls that go to M / Js are in for at least 2000-3000 usd for their visit (Visa, plane fare, hotel / food costs) depending on how long they stay. I have talked to a few that feel the pressure to make back their cost plus get a return. That's helped keep the market healthy.

SAM.