Kyiv

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Oh man, that's a pretty grim picture.

So no clubs for mongers?

Just unreliable websites?

These days semi-pros and even pros prefer anonymity behind Viber and WhatsApp while looking for suitors.

Ukrainian working girls residing in Kiev but proposing their goods in Dubai clubs among similar working girls one thing. Kiev clubs are more heterogeneous. There are civilians of both genders. Hunting in Kiev club means exposure to the peers and beyond. Hunting in Kiev clubs means tarnished reputation at the real job and jeopardizing potential marriage.

Clubs exist, hunting in clubs exist, but it is not a simplified transactional experience, not the way it is done for example in Madrid now, or even in Kiev in the days of River Palace.

[ShawMan74]

It is always good to start new challenge in life.

When was the best time to plant a tree?

20 years ago.

When is the SECOND best time to plant a tree?

TODAY.

You're not the only one who wants something new in life.

[Stefan 7]

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Here is Katia old photos that were on gia, no photoshop, last yr her age was also 24 on their site.

[VivalDim]

https://massazhka.com/ukraina/ focuses on sex work. You could advertise there. But unless you speak fluent Russian on the phone, girl will be suspicious. Maybe you plan to kidnap her and traffic her to a Turkish sex slave brothel? Even if she believes your story, what exactly are you offering that would attract her? One time sex at a low price? If you just want to cut out the middleman, why not just use mamba or tinder, then screen out agencies and civilians so that what remains are true independents and semi-pros?

Hi Kozerog and thank you for the link. Of course it is not my plan to kidnap the girl. My intention is to propose shooting in Kiev or elsewhere to those interested and I can offer much more than what they are actually paid. It is always good to start new challenge in life.

[Kozerog]

I was wondering how new girls get into private apartments in Kiev? How do they find brothel? You think they just look at sexkiev. Xyz or similar websites and give call? Or is there dedicated places on internet with sexy jobs in Ukraine? Maybe something like https://red-life.com.

More generally if I consider posting ads for the adult industry in Kiev how shall I proceed?

https://massazhka.com/ukraina/ focuses on sex work. You could advertise there. But unless you speak fluent Russian on the phone, girl will be suspicious. Maybe you plan to kidnap her and traffic her to a Turkish sex slave brothel? Even if she believes your story, what exactly are you offering that would attract her? One time sex at a low price? If you just want to cut out the middleman, why not just use mamba or tinder, then screen out agencies and civilians so that what remains are true independents and semi-pros?

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How do you grade Katia and Liza in your black book? 1 to 10.

I never met either one. And do not know what is "black" book.

To my taste appearance-wise Lisa looks at least 9. She is 26. Might be 28 IRL. I prefer 19-21 years old. Obviously beautified and enhanced through Photoshop, not sure how her breasts look today. Her first review was in 2016. I do not remember her pictures or even profile back then, but 3 years in this business is too long. Attitude is a major factor in my ratings. No bad reviews in English, I suspect some are fake (written by GIA or now KEC management). Russian reviews are mostly good, with few exceptions.

Katia is 24. At least an 8 body, simply because I prefer different type breasts, more like what Irina or even Liza has. Otherwise body is 9 or 10. Her being shorter (163) doesn't bother at all. Face expression and attitude are more important than face features. For her attitude please read JyMondor's report. A year ago in the right hands of a true gentleman and a skillful connoisseur she was 10+. They met a month before the GIA bust..[/QUOTE]If their prices started under 5000 UAH for the first hour back in 2016 I would order either one without hesitation. My last order from GIA was in December of 2017. There are substantially cheaper options, especially for multiple days.

Cheers!

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Oh man, that's a pretty grim picture.

So no clubs for mongers?

Just unreliable websites?

You want a Miracle. A drive-through service, where you pay and 10 rated girl will fulfill your every erotic desire? That doesn't exist in Kiev.

Rio.

Some say Caribbean, but that is only good when you arrive in all the shining armor and glory, while two or three Mamba girls from your previous visits might be already waiting, as they just promised over the Viber. Or maybe you'll go and get lucky. I am not saying impossible, just difficult and unlikely over a short period of time. Girls hunt online nowadays, not in clubs.

Otherwise change your tickets and fly through a different hub.

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I was wondering how new girls get into private apartments in Kiev? How do they find brothel? You think they just look at sexkiev. Xyz or similar websites and give call? Or is there dedicated places on internet with sexy jobs in Ukraine? Maybe something like https://red-life.com.

More generally if I consider posting ads for the adult industry in Kiev how shall I proceed?

Thanks!

You would be competing against those providing protection to adult industry. Just a thought.

As chaotic as it seems, Kiev has certain rules. Money should flow in a certain direction and established proportions should be observed and respected.

Otherwise, Kozerog just posted URL to HR management for KEC. Some organizations do it through other means, ukrgo is one example. Agencies are penetrating everything, including Mamba and even Tinder.

I know of indies being harassed by law enforcement with the intent to extort money.

[VivalDim]

I was wondering how new girls get into private apartments in Kiev? How do they find brothel? You think they just look at sexkiev. Xyz or similar websites and give call? Or is there dedicated places on internet with sexy jobs in Ukraine? Maybe something like https://red-life.com.

More generally if I consider posting ads for the adult industry in Kiev how shall I proceed?

Thanks!

[Bizzie]

Kiev is not Dubai, and it doesn't have German FKKs. River Palace is long time gone.

There is an abundance of clubs at the Arena and throughout the City, I stopped going to those 6 years ago because it stopped making sense to me, and never did, I am not the type.

Rio Strip Club has take out for $300 for few hours, and ratio of good looking girls to lazy ones and those with cellulite is 1 to 5 or even lower depending on the hour or day of the week.

Set your expectations low, be prepared that you will not score, and then you will not be disappointed. Or maybe even you'll get a good girl at Rio, and she'll make it a night to remember.

I had a newbie from Rio in 2015, that was a great check out.

Scarlet Strip Club is so-so, looked empty to me in November 2017. Recent visitors liked it. There are complaints about Darling and other ones.

Oh man, that's a pretty grim picture.

So no clubs for mongers?

Just unreliable websites?

[VivalDim]

I'm looking for sexy jobs advertising websites used by Ukrainian girls, any idea? Something like https://red-life.net/ but in Ukrainian thanks! Found https://flagma.ua, http://3.com. You and https://www.olx.ua but can't find sexy jobs. My idea is to let the girls coming to me with paid ads instead of chasing her. Does it worth a try?

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I can't share pics, so. Check on mamba, Allina, 27, red blonde hair. Wears a shirt on flix saying,. Worst 10 minutes of my life'. Pics look retouched, but she is 100% that girl. If she isn't an 8/9. Let me know what you consider one?

Look for schenia (written with that kyrillic sh), black hair, olive green shirt. If she ain't an 8/9. Let me know who is then?

Look for Daria, 23, sits on a cabin of a Ferris wheel or lays in bed with white shirt on. ...style, an 8 for me. Then there is alna, blond girl, on 2 pics she is naked. Killer body, 10 for me please. All mamba, all seen and spent time with, look the same live as on pictures.

I am so jealous! Seriously, no jokes.

If only right now I could sit outdoors and watch them go by, or take underground metro, or even just walk around appreciating the beauties strolling back and forth.

It certainly baffles and bewilders me: Mathematically speaking top 30 out of 100 women that I meet downtown Kiev should be no less than 8. So I took a piece of paper and a pen, and started rating them. First of all I had to restart couple times due to distractions and having difficulty to concentrate on the task at hand, but after working out the proper process it appeared that there were at least a few irregularities:

There were more than 30% of 8's. And believe me, I am a picky assessor of female beauty.

Percentage of attractive women was much higher than 50.

Now, to make it trustworthy, I wasn't drunk. It was in the afternoon. No rain. Perhaps my vantage point provided skewed data, because it was downtown. One was ballerina, and I literally knew her name. Few tall and very fit ones were leaving their expensive cars for valet parking running into the gym. There was also much less older and middle aged women, which is fine with me. Surely, most of them were dressed up, with perfect hair and make up. Nothing wrong with that either.

Yes, there are beautiful young ladies in NYC, San Diego, Madrid, but OMG! Nowhere near the concentration of those in Kiev!

Thank for sharing your success, Trent23.

Waiting for more reports from others, as we are nearing the midpoint of Summer.

[Stefan 7]

TKatia at Kiev Escort Club (online escort ordering service) used to be very good a year ago. She starts at $250/ hour.

Liza seems good, but her personality has not been verified by credible sources. $300.!

How do you grade Katia and Liza in your black book? 1 to 10.

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...Just need to go to a nightclub in Warsaw or Krakow. Same in Latvia. And the city of Riga is one of the capitals of world sex tourism. ! This is not a poor Ukraine, gentlemen! This is Latvia! A country that is in the European Union! Ukraine will never be in the EU. If you follow this logic, then Latvia and Riga should have died a long time as a route for sex tourism. But this is not so! Riga and now accepts a large number of sex tourists...

Latvia and Prosperity? Riga the Capital of sex tourism? I am laughing my ass off.

Riga is the same as Detroit now. Dead city with marginal downtown and shrinking population. Finding a good escort is mostly an exercise in futility.

Speaking from personal experience.

[Alekezam]

I can't share pics, so. Check on mamba, Allina, 27, red blonde hair. Wears a shirt on flix saying. Worst 10 minutes of my life'. Pics look retouched, but she is 100% that girl. If she isn't an 8/9. Let me know what you consider one?

Look for scheniblack hair, olive green shirt. If she ain't an 8/9. Let me know who is then?

Look for Daria, 23, sits on a cabin of a Ferris wheel or lays in bed with white shirt on. An 8 for me. Then there is alna, blond girl, on 2 pics she is naked. Killer body, 10 for me please. All mamba, all seen and spent time with, look the same live as on pictures.

99.5% online profiles in Kiev are fake or touched up, probably more. Just read 20 pages and you find out how big of an issue this is. This is an illusion that has been created in Kiev. I deal in the real world not a fantasy world that is online in Kiev.

Quit complaining.

Not everyone has the same negative attitude towards Ukraine.

You constantly claim that people whom have had bad experiences never share but that's not the case. I see about 50/50 on both good and bad experiences. Probably more bad experiences than good since 1 out of every other 5 posts on here is of you constantly repeating the same thing over and over again. That Ukraine sucks and hot chicks apparently don't exist there. WE GET THE MESAAGE.

I have nothing personally against but geez give it a rest already.

For anyone that's coming from the States, Ukraine is awesome if you like blondes. I don't care what anyone says, it costs you 3 times plus here in the States for the kind of action you'the get over there even with the inflated prices complainers are constantly whinin about.

I don't partake in the scene anymore as I'm married now to a Ukrainian. She was one of the many girls I met during my time there. I met her on Tinder of all places and it was ended up being completely non-professional I've been plenty of times since but prior to meeting her I'the only been there twice for a week at a time. It's true that the less socially awkward you are and physically appealing he easier it is just like anywhere else in the world. Age tends to be less of a factor. Obviously better if you wear your age well. Tried out GIA and met so many others using various avenues. Okcupid, plenty of fish, tinder, and Facebook. Some pros and some not but I honestly never had a bad experience. Bottom line for me is that it' was way easier to meet women in Ukraine than it would be here in the States. That's both for mongering and just hanging out. I'm talking about blonde Slavic women, not Asian, not South American, or other ethnicities.

My excuse for being here is that I still like to keep up and live vicariously through others. It's fun to envy all the adventures you guys get to have.

It just annoys me how people can't just allow others to make their own judgments based on what they read. We are all adults we can think for ourselves. State your opinion and let other decide for themselves.