FKK Artemis - Berlin

[Danny227]

A is a terrible club but good enough for Asian guys, fair visitors but completely out for any little bit demanding senior monger, a real no go place even for free I don t like to waste my time which veteran, sili and botoxed girls.

Was there over the weekend. Terrible.

[Surfer500]

A is a terrible club but good enough for Asian guys, fair visitors but completely out for any little bit demanding senior monger, a real no go place even for free I don t like to waste my time which veteran, sili and botoxed girls.

Yes this place is not for a seasoned monger with worldwide experience for sure, or someone who likes the street scene like myself.

[Surfer500]

Which ones, especially which one did you like? Thanks.

Sorry don't remember the name of the gal at Europa Salon but she was from Moldavia wherever the hell that is! A larger girl but spoke five languages and very pleasant.

[The Cane]

Some of them act like that anyways LOL.

Agreed, but I believe that having them pay nothing would only make matters worse by making going to "work" at an FKK look more enticing to "riff-raff" type of girls. I'm talking about those who are only there to fleece as many customers as possible. Thinking only about the here and now versus building a good reputation by providing honest and quality service to horny men willing to pay for it.

[BigBuddy69]

Yeah I know, you told it maybe 20 times in the last few days.

[ExpatLover]

I have had the exact same thoughts as nooky about girls entrance fee. Does anybody know how much they have to pay?

Anyhow, if I were the club owner I would drastically lower the fee that the girls have to pay to work there. The club would become way more attractive for way more attractive girls and hence more customers would visit.

The club, the girls and the bears would all benefit I think.

Was there the other day, only sessioned once with a Turkish / German girl named Emira.

Have to agree that Artemis need to attract more girls and girls.

I ended up having an escort to my hotel room on a late call.

A is a terrible club but good enough for Asian guys, fair visitors but completely out for any little bit demanding senior monger, a real no go place even for free I don t like to waste my time which veteran, sili and botoxed girls.

[Tintin1]

I did however afterwards visit two low end brothels, and had a good experience at one of them, and it only set me back 60 Euros. Can't wait to get back to Colombia in three weeks. Sixty Euros goes a long way there!

Which ones, especially which one did you like? Thanks.

[Mr Ho]

I would not reduce the entrance fee for the girls to zero in an effort to discourage total scammers and rip-off artists who will undoubtedly act like they have nothing to lose (without considering their own reputations). I would make every girl pay something that would incentivize them some to have to work to get that money back. Otherwise, you'll have plenty of more scammers showing up and getting what they can get for however many nights, then moving on, either by choice or after having been kicked out.

Some of them act like that anyways LOL.

[Surfer500]

Hey Surfer500. I stopped being a regular visitor to Artemis a few years ago. There was a decline in the looks and quality of the girls there. Instead, I also shifted my attention to the Frankfurt clubs. For this club it might be a bit early in the day for the top girls, but if you did not like the girls at 2 PM, the quality of the girls probably won't improve significantly enough for you to find a suitor. You must be spoiled in Colombia. I remember the last visit I made, the girls were very aggressive. She tried to convince me to go to the room right away when I was heading to the dinner table. She said that they were not serving food. I called her on that and said look the restaurant is open. I don't know why the Artemis management did not kick these girls out. It will just drive tourists away. Your 80 Euros would have allowed you to enter again later in the evening, but since you were so turned off by the experience, you were probably wise to cut your losses. I also hoped you were able to use your time wisely the rest of the night. Where did you wind up going? Berlin is a great city to explore for a tourist. There are also plenty of other options. Hopefully, you will find something to your liking.

FiddyCent.

Nooky Ninja made some good points, primarily, don't go there before six PM in the evening! The place was just not my cup of tea at all, however I can see how some guys would like the place.

I did however afterwards visit two low end brothels, and had a good experience at one of them, and it only set me back 60 Euros. Can't wait to get back to Colombia in three weeks. Sixty Euros goes a long way there!

[PinballMachine]

I have had the exact same thoughts as nooky about girls entrance fee. Does anybody know how much they have to pay?

Anyhow, if I were the club owner I would drastically lower the fee that the girls have to pay to work there. The club would become way more attractive for way more attractive girls and hence more customers would visit.

The club, the girls and the bears would all benefit I think.

Was there the other day, only sessioned once with a Turkish / German girl named Emira.

Have to agree that Artemis need to attract more girls and girls.

I ended up having an escort to my hotel room on a late call.

[FiddyCent]

Went to this FKK for the first time yesterday around 2 PM in the afternoon to check it out and should of never went. When I arrived I paid the 80 Euro entrance fee, got my locker, changed into a robe, and started checking the place out. There were about 25 guys there and about the same number of women at this time. As I was walking around at least six different women came up to me or were following me around, touching me, or chatting me up. With the exception of one woman, most of these women were disappointing. Some of them were way past their prime, and a few of them looked like linebackers! And there was the "smokers crew" sitting at the bar, a heavily tatted Turkish woman, and just a bunch of unattractive women wandering around the place with the exception of one as previously mentioned. But she was just to aggressive for me along with some of the others. In regards to the "free food", it was a bunch of slop, with no juices or ice at the soda machine.

So I sat down with some of the other patrons to discuss my observations and was told it was early in the day which it was, and that there would be better looking girls showing up later in the day. So I departed after 45 minutes and didn't return later to confirm whether this was true or not. I was generally turned off by the place, the desperate girls, and don't see what the attraction of the place is. The facilities are okay, but at 80 Euros to get in, not worth it in my opinion. And I am not convinced that the quality of the women would be substantially better later on. Just my thoughts and observations, hopefully others will have a better experience than I did.

Hey Surfer500. I stopped being a regular visitor to Artemis a few years ago. There was a decline in the looks and quality of the girls there. Instead, I also shifted my attention to the Frankfurt clubs. For this club it might be a bit early in the day for the top girls, but if you did not like the girls at 2 PM, the quality of the girls probably won't improve significantly enough for you to find a suitor. You must be spoiled in Colombia. I remember the last visit I made, the girls were very aggressive. She tried to convince me to go to the room right away when I was heading to the dinner table. She said that they were not serving food. I called her on that and said look the restaurant is open. I don't know why the Artemis management did not kick these girls out. It will just drive tourists away. Your 80 Euros would have allowed you to enter again later in the evening, but since you were so turned off by the experience, you were probably wise to cut your losses. I also hoped you were able to use your time wisely the rest of the night. Where did you wind up going? Berlin is a great city to explore for a tourist. There are also plenty of other options. Hopefully, you will find something to your liking.

FiddyCent.

[The Cane]

Might be interesting experiment to run if a drastically reduced fee it charges to girls, maybe even to 0, except for those who sleep there who would pay small room charge.

I would not reduce the entrance fee for the girls to zero in an effort to discourage total scammers and rip-off artists who will undoubtedly act like they have nothing to lose (without considering their own reputations). I would make every girl pay something that would incentivize them some to have to work to get that money back. Otherwise, you'll have plenty of more scammers showing up and getting what they can get for however many nights, then moving on, either by choice or after having been kicked out.

[Nooky Ninja]

Went to this FKK for the first time yesterday around 2 PM in the afternoon to check it out and should of never went. So I sat down with some of the other patrons to discuss my observations and was told it was early in the day which it was, and that there would be better looking girls showing up later in the day. So I departed after 45 minutes and didn't return later to confirm whether this was true or not.

Summertime also means some of A's A team on holidays. But in general, Artemis is slow / dead during the day, completely different starting around 6 pm. Almost a different club at night. Been said hundreds of times here in thread, and you heard it from locals also. Frustrating for girls also as so few customers so of course they try harder. But, since you already paid, seems a bit foolish not to at least return for a bit. It is taste / emotion thing and might have made no difference to you; everyone is different. No club is perfect and A certainly has things it could improve (see 1. below). But to judge all this after only 45 minutes at slowest part of day not fair to club, or actually to yourself.

Other new visitors take this to heart. If you go early, best to have low expectations during daytime, just enjoy pool, food (have always found Artemis breakfast with eggs, cheeses, ham, yogurt, croissants, muesli, orange juice pretty good til 3 pm), drinks, sauna etc. And possibly, maybe you will meet someone you like from the 10-25 girls who might be there. But 3-4 times number of day girls start arriving only around 6 pm, and full shift not clear really til 8 pm.

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1. Might be interesting experiment to run if A drastically reduced fee it charges to girls, maybe even to 0, except for those who sleep there who would pay small room charge. It might make girls more relaxed, less pressured to earn back their fee (which takes at least 3 sessions including taxes) etc., less crazy up-selling 1 additional monger would cover the club loss per girl per day. Might also increase competition and improve quality as more girls would compete to work there. This would be a radical move that would be felt throughout all DE FKKs and should bring in a lot of new talent.

There is argument that girls somehow work harder because they have to earn back the fee. But Ninja think they have incentive enough to want to even work there - it is by no means easy money. Might improve atmosphere, reduce sharking, and improve quality of choices, and increase men traffic throughout the day. Of course, it means club needs 70-80 or so new men per day to make up shortfall, which is significant but doable if atmosphere and choices much better.

[Surfer500]

Went to this FKK for the first time yesterday around 2 PM in the afternoon to check it out and should of never went. When I arrived I paid the 80 Euro entrance fee, got my locker, changed into a robe, and started checking the place out. There were about 25 guys there and about the same number of women at this time. As I was walking around at least six different women came up to me or were following me around, touching me, or chatting me up. With the exception of one woman, most of these women were disappointing. Some of them were way past their prime, and a few of them looked like linebackers! And there was the "smokers crew" sitting at the bar, a heavily tatted Turkish woman, and just a bunch of unattractive women wandering around the place with the exception of one as previously mentioned. But she was just to aggressive for me along with some of the others. In regards to the "free food", it was a bunch of slop, with no juices or ice at the soda machine.

So I sat down with some of the other patrons to discuss my observations and was told it was early in the day which it was, and that there would be better looking girls showing up later in the day. So I departed after 45 minutes and didn't return later to confirm whether this was true or not. I was generally turned off by the place, the desperate girls, and don't see what the attraction of the place is. The facilities are okay, but at 80 Euros to get in, not worth it in my opinion. And I am not convinced that the quality of the women would be substantially better later on. Just my thoughts and observations, hopefully others will have a better experience than I did.

[Mr Ho]

Absolutely agree with you as it is and was also my favourite club some years ago.

I made my first experience about 20 years ago at FKK Oase in Burgholzhausen and then got "addicted" to this kind of clubs.

Visited already some clubs in Germany, Austria and Switzerland and the paradise for FKK Clubs is NRW in Germany.

Haven't been to Artemis since more than 3 years as during my last visits the girls tryied to upsell as much extras as possible and the crowd was not really the best one.

As venue, Artemis is still a great place with excellent SPA facilities, ok food and always some eye candy.

May be I should it a new try just for memories of the good old times.

So much memories there too, and I shall return this late summer. I just hope line up got younger and good as it once used to be.

As for service it was always upsell, as long as it is mild one and service is delivered as promised, then for me it is fine. I just want line up to be young and good as it was before 2014 ish.