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07-15-19 01:07 #14405
Posts: 7321Girls entrance.
I think in the club where facility is good like Artemis with gym, in house doctor, solarium, few sauna, two pools, jacuzzi, girls sleeping area, roof top etc etc. 140 entrance for girls are justified.
But in other smaller clubs. With limited space and facility, it can be considered.
On top of that, owner need to deal with authorities, which require a lot of external help like lawyers, accountant, former police consultant etc. These are expensive cost.
For monger 50 euro entrance is good, but when it is like 80 euro it is bit too much for most clubs. The worst is palace, it is 75 euro and look at that limited space facility. For facility, I like the Artemis best. And for price I like GT Bruggen in summer with big garden and it is only 50 euro to enter.
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07-14-19 20:20 #14404
Posts: 435Originally Posted by Sirioja [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Pksimar69 [View Original Post]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Germany#Value-added_tax
(For American readers, value-added tax in Germany is equivalent to sale tax in USA. He essentially said that if a store in US doesn't give you a receipt for the product you purchased, the store legally doesn't have to pay the sale tax of that product to the government)
I don't want to keep discussing. Let's let the readers decide what to take from our posts. This is my last post on this subject.
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07-14-19 20:08 #14403
Posts: 22440Originally Posted by Pessimist [View Original Post]
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07-14-19 18:42 #14402
Posts: 1755Originally Posted by Pksimar69 [View Original Post]
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07-14-19 17:23 #14401
Posts: 465Originally Posted by Bfsie [View Original Post]
Secondly and most important VAT is paid to government only when you issue an invoice or a receipt.
How many mongers or girls get a receipt or invoice when they pay entrance? You know the answer.
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07-14-19 14:56 #14400
Posts: 1386I was with a pretty 21 year old civilian blonde last week. Looks wise, she could compete with the best I ever had in any FKK in my life. We were hot and heavy, made out on the couch for some time and I requested we take a sensual shower together which I enjoy thoroughly. She wasn't too sure because she didn't want to get her hair wet but agreed to please me. Shower was very nice, we made out more in the shower, soaped and washed each other nicely, and then moved to the bedroom. She blew me, then I ate her a little, and I suggested we move to 69. She agreed and positioned her pussy at my mouth and her ass in my nostrils. Boy, even after all that shower and washing, the scent was too strong and not in a pleasant way. I had to hold my breath to continue eating her. After a few minutes I reluctantly called timeout and we moved to other activities. The scent didn't bother me earlier when she was on her back and I ate her, but in 69 it was a bit too much. I love muff diving and her **** was reasonably clean and tasty but all of that came to a premature end due to her anal hygiene issues. Oh well.
Which brings me — one thing I love about FKK girls is that their hygiene is generally very good. Even after getting fucked more times times than I fart in a day, they seem to clean themselves up pretty good. At least to the point where DATY feels pretty clean and rectal scents are not a put off. While I am not a huge fan of eating ass out, with my more regular girls I have partaken that pleasure when in proper mood. Unfortunately, I cannot say the same thing with my civilian girls. Not all of them acquiesce to taking showers at the beginning of sex, some become offended and suspicious and declare haughtily that they are clean if they suspect your motive, and for nearly half of them even pussy is not smelling so nice and clean. Remember, these are not WGs and who have normal daily activities most of the time and I may be fucking them at odd times of the day and it depends on when their last bath might have been; even so, I wish they could be cleaner. Plus, hardly very many girls here use bidet after number two.
Perhaps this is an American girl thing? Almost all of the civilian fucks I experience are based in my native land. I wonder whether this is the same experience you gentlemen out there have felt in your own episodes. My sample size of civilian fucks is not necessarily small and hence I feel like this has been a widespread phenomenon in my experience.
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07-14-19 14:17 #14399
Posts: 435Originally Posted by Craiova [View Original Post]
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07-14-19 13:27 #14398
Posts: 1755Originally Posted by Bfsie [View Original Post]
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07-14-19 13:22 #14397
Posts: 22440Originally Posted by Bfsie [View Original Post]
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07-14-19 10:24 #14396
Posts: 465Originally Posted by Bfsie [View Original Post]
The turnover I mentioned is based on the income they make on a regular day on average visits from both mongers and girls and also sales from the bar.
Yes I also agree it is a well tested format because it gives good profits to the owners the way it works. But I expect to see either reduced entry for mongers or free entry for girls. Yes this will raise competition and at the end both will win, customers (including girls) and owners.
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07-14-19 08:52 #14395
Posts: 435Originally Posted by Pksimar69 [View Original Post]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Germany
Originally Posted by Pksimar69 [View Original Post]
The point is that current FKK club format is a well tested format and I DO believe that If the owners of clubs have room to lower or eliminate the entrance fee of WGs and even mongers, they will do that because of the competition among FKK clubs in a free market.
Remember Germany is a free-market country and the business in Germany are subject to intense and constant competition from their competitors. If a business is not competitive in terms of its price, it will quickly be out of business.Last edited by Admin3; 07-14-19 at 18:11.
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07-13-19 21:23 #14394
Posts: 22440Originally Posted by Sebastiane [View Original Post]
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07-13-19 20:57 #14393
Posts: 465Originally Posted by Bfsie [View Original Post]
First of all except for Artemis as you mentioned I don't think that other clubs cost that much to be built. Furniture and all equipment and decor is cheap.
Regarding 10 % return on investment. Well I think they make much more because if you do the math these clubs make around 7-10 million turn over a year. Running expenses (for which I cannily think about payroll cost as the most expensive) are normally much less maybe 50 % of that. So that is around 45-50 % gross profit before taxation. You.
Corporate taxation in Germany is 15 % so there you are what remains in pocket.
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07-13-19 20:11 #14392
Posts: 1361Originally Posted by Sirioja [View Original Post]
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07-13-19 19:25 #14391
Posts: 1163Originally Posted by Pistons [View Original Post]