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  1. #30509
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I'm sorry. I never said the Nutibara was $15. I was just saying that you should be staying in the area where Nutibara is and that it is a popular hotel for mongers. Other hotels in that area are in the $15 range. Also, if you have boots on the ground somewhere then don't rely on what you see online. By going there to inquire is how you are going to get the best deal. I have a buddy that stays at the Nutibara and pays like $250/month, but you are not going to see that online. You will see that by walking over and asking in person. Same as someone said to get a local number and send messages from that and chicks will give you a lower price than if you send messages from a foreign number.

    I am just a person that does not like to reinvent the wheel. You said that you read so much then you go off and stay at a place that nobody has mentioned. That gave me a chuckle and that is why I quoted it and somewhat mocked you for it. It reminded me of my brother. Whenever he has gone somewhere new and I have told him exactly where to stay, somehow he always ends up at a place across town that nobody has mentioned that is way far from the action. When I go somewhere new I will get on here and read and ask other board members where I should be staying. My first time to Medellin I waited until a buddy of mine (who lives there now) that already knew the ropes was going too. I did not have to figure anything out. All I had to do was follow him. That is how I learned of all the $10, $13, $15 hotels and all the casas and bars and strip clubs all around downtown. It would have given me a headache trying to figure all of that stuff out on my own. Had he started me out in Poblado, then maybe I would have been one of the Poblado guys.
    100% spot on Mr E. But the problem is so few are willing to share even General info that it becomes difficult for the newbie. I took a conservative approach but had 9 days and I still made errors but with cobbling together whatever info I could and my 35% Spanish, I was able to make it a decent adventure. But I did ignore the stay at the M and all will be solved advise and with any less spanish or less research or less advise form the few who did provide I would have had an inferior experience.

    So my plea to fellow mongers is, atleast with generic info, be a tad more generous. It helps set the market better and helps the green ones be less green (atleast some of them). There will always be the ones that can't helped.

  2. #30508
    Quote Originally Posted by AmoMedellin  [View Original Post]
    Take your favourite Paisa to Teatro Metropolitano at a spectacular event like Zuruzuela and have dinner afterwards at the small but very good Italian Pomodoro (Clle 73).

    Things will never be the same again; Show off quality and impress the Medellin community.

    FB chicks, I have done that as well, but I want to forget, the real events, those I remember for life!
    It appears that Teatro Metropolitano has no performances scheduled during my planned visit, though it was a great suggestion for an upscale date. Any other suggestions would be welcome.

  3. #30507
    Quote Originally Posted by KryptoKnight  [View Original Post]
    I also ask you look at Mr Ent posts. He criticized me for paying $35 (Weekend prices) and said he pays $15 a night for hotels and recommended Hotel Nutibara, I see Nutibara online for $31 and up for tomorrow.
    I'm sorry. I never said the Nutibara was $15. I was just saying that you should be staying in the area where Nutibara is and that it is a popular hotel for mongers. Other hotels in that area are in the $15 range. Also, if you have boots on the ground somewhere then don't rely on what you see online. By going there to inquire is how you are going to get the best deal. I have a buddy that stays at the Nutibara and pays like $250/month, but you are not going to see that online. You will see that by walking over and asking in person. Same as someone said to get a local number and send messages from that and chicks will give you a lower price than if you send messages from a foreign number.

    I am just a person that does not like to reinvent the wheel. You said that you read so much then you go off and stay at a place that nobody has mentioned. That gave me a chuckle and that is why I quoted it and somewhat mocked you for it. It reminded me of my brother. Whenever he has gone somewhere new and I have told him exactly where to stay, somehow he always ends up at a place across town that nobody has mentioned that is way far from the action. When I go somewhere new I will get on here and read and ask other board members where I should be staying. My first time to Medellin I waited until a buddy of mine (who lives there now) that already knew the ropes was going too. I did not have to figure anything out. All I had to do was follow him. That is how I learned of all the $10, $13, $15 hotels and all the casas and bars and strip clubs all around downtown. It would have given me a headache trying to figure all of that stuff out on my own. Had he started me out in Poblado, then maybe I would have been one of the Poblado guys.

  4. #30506

    Strip Club Question

    By the way, do they mind if you whip out a video camera in the strip clubs and film the action. Vacation memories kind of thing?

    *Joking.

  5. #30505
    Thanks for the post. It is a very good report with positive energy. I see your knowledge and maturity in the report. Have fun in Medellin.

    Quote Originally Posted by ColombiaLover  [View Original Post]
    From another week in Medellin. For those who are newer, let me give you some basic facts about me so you can decide whether you want to listen to me or not.

    Been visiting Medellin for 14+ years, but never lived there.

    Married to Colombiana from Bogota for 9 years. Now divorced.

    53 YO gringo. Spanish is functional, but not fluent.

    Used to stay in Poblado. Now stay in Laureles.

    While I often try to tell myself that I'm going to try the casas again, go to Veracruz, or go to Centro strip clubs, I always end up doing the same. I see a mix of regulars and new FB girls and have ventured into the non-pro arena. I could save money by going to casas, but I typically pay FB girls 150 K and taxi one way. Non-pros are not guaranteed sex, but I've had fun with some, even without banging them. My trips are not solely about sex, but enjoying myself.

    At any rate, nothing earth-shattering to say about most of my sessions. I don't think any were bad. Some were great. The best one is from a girl who is average looking and skinny. But she's into it. Loves to suck her own tits and squirt the milk out of her mouth back onto her chest. Tried anal for the first time and I was happy to oblige. I don't do it often, but she likes ass play, so I knew she'd like anal after the initial pain subsided.

    At any rate, on my last night I had a date with a non-pro. She has a normal job and we never talked about sex or money. We decided to go to a place I like in Aranjuez for some cocktails and shots. She asked me to pick her up (instead of her coming to me), which tells you this was more like a normal date. She lives in Villa Hermosa. So I took off in the taxi. Went through a bunch of barrios I did not know. Some of it was a little scary and I was beginning to wonder if I had made a mistake. One street something big was on fire. Passed by a couple of working girls on the corner. Both of them looked pretty hot. If I didn't have a date, I might have gotten the taxi drive to stop so I could talk to one of them.

    Fortunately, when I finally got to her neighborhood in Villa Hermoso, things improved. Her house was on a nice, quiet and clean street in a nice neighborhood. She came out of the house and off we went.

    Got to Aranjuez and went in. The place is not big and it was not crowded. There is a new bar right next door and it was rockin'. But I wanted to stay where we were. Good music. Combo of ranchero, villenato, salsa, etc. Good cocktails. And we could talk with some privacy. Had a nice conversation with her, although I had to work hard because she talked fast and her Spanish was not as clear as I have heard. But very sweet girl. As we drank, she loosened up. She was drinking margaritas and ordered some shots in between. She eventually warmed up a lot, much to my enjoyment. Lots of kisses and hugs and authorized touching. Fun sharing a bom-bom-bon (lollipop).

    Unfortunately, it turns out that she does not often drink a lot, so toward the end of the night, she threw up. No big deal. We got in the taxi and I was going to take her home, but after about 5 minutes she told the taxitas to instead go to my apartment. We slept together, but did not have sex. Which was fine. I had a good evening. And I know that respectable Colombian women never sleep with a guy on the first date.

    The point to all of this is to say that there is a lot of fun to be had in the barrios. I am not suggesting this to newbies or to anyone who knows no Spanish. But it's nice to be somewhere where you are not in the presence of a bunch of loud, drunk gringos. People are nice to me. They do not bother me. I never felt any threat (of course, I get out of the taxi and go into the bar and then leave in a taxi. I do not walk the streets). I always go with a chica, so not trolling the bars alone. It is real Colombia. Not Lleras. Give it a try.

    And by the way, the total bill was 103 mil. That included 8 cocktails and 6 shots. And the waitress was hot. Good times.

  6. #30504

    Strip Clubs on Sunday

    Hola, quick question. Are the strip clubs and casas in El Centro open on Sunday nights and are there any that are better on Sundays? Gracias.

  7. #30503
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTallMan  [View Original Post]
    Read Mr Ent response a few times as all of your questions are clearly stated. Again it is all about expectations, they say that an expectation is the start of resentments meaning go with little or no expectations.

    And don't get frustrated because of a few minor inconveniences (IE no closet or AC in hotel), welcome to Colombia. How much time will you be in Medellin?

    The Tall Man.
    Hi Tall Man. I have read and enjoyed your posts.

    I am here 10 days.

    I also ask you look at Mr Ent posts. He criticized me for paying $35 (Weekend prices) and said he pays $15 a night for hotels and recommended Hotel Nutibara, I see Nutibara online for $31 and up for tomorrow.

    I am not trying to create a flame war, but sometimes it feels like the El Centro crew likes to mock those who don't want to stay in a dangerous, grimey area with subpar chicas.

    I just think there should be a greater level of honesty and less mocking of people who come here for vacation and don't want to go through the sewer. I complain about the hotel and I am told of course it's not the Marriott. I don't stay at Marriotts, ever, I do budget vacations. I live in Brooklyn and I watched an attempted purse snatching last week from my apartment window that involved an older woman being flung to the ground by a 20 something punk.

    If you are in town I will gladly buy you a couple drinks as payback for all your amazing posts!

    Cheers. Krypto Knight.
    Last edited by Krypto Knight; 07-15-19 at 03:00. Reason: Cleaned up readability

  8. #30502

    Ahhh.

    I can only imagine what you consider respectable. Something tells me it's not much of a standard.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    You had me up until this phrase. Maybe women that make a rule for themselves not to fuck someone on the first date are doing it for the sake of rule making and tricking themselves that they have control of themselves. But it has nothing to do with whether they are respectable or not. I have fucked tons of respectable Colombian women on the first date. People are people and people like affection and fucking.

    Plus if I tell everyone I just got a respectable new girl they would probably look at me crazy and say what the fuck does that have to do with anything. Tell me when you get a rich girl or a fine ass girl; but respectable? Uhhh, Okay.

  9. #30501
    Quote Originally Posted by KryptoKnight  [View Original Post]
    First let me say, and you can verify from my posts, I am a long time monger in second world countries. Thailand 15 times. Bali, Vietnam, Laos. Lived in Dubai 12 years. For some context I am a white American, 58 years old.

    Today was my first trip to Medellin and my first day.

    I will surely provide some posts after my visit. I thank the forum for the preparation, I have read many pages of posts.

    I need some direction to salvage this trip.

    Based on posts here I decided to go the El Centro route as I am not a Prima Dona and I like to save money when I am a monger not throw money in the toilet, and I don't need to hang around tourists.

    That said, this is not the same as low end Thailand or Vietnam etc.

    I am staying at 47 Hotel Medellin which has a 7. 8 rating on hotel.com. $35 a night, great room pictures on the website.

    I get to the hotel and here are the issues. No AC, No room safe, No closet? No dresser? No refrigerator. My feet hang off the end of the bed and I am only 5'8" No real bedsheets just a small thin sheet and blanket which I have never see in my life. I asked for a glass to drink my whisky in and they said go to the restaurant on the roof, which I did and the manager said only for restaurant. Went downstairs, hotel staff came up with me and I watched a 3 minute argument about 'I should not get a $1 dollar? Max glass but finally I got. You get the idea.

    Then as discussed here you cannot go out and walk at night. The hotel was very clear. No, no,no, no too dangerous. So I am staying in a hotel where I can only go out in the day unless I go straight to a taxi. I cannot even take my phone out of my pocket without becoming some target? (As many experienced people here have said and as my hotel suggested even during the day)..
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    On what page did you read someone say to stay at 47 Hotel Medellin? $35 per night is a lot of freakin money for downtown. Most of us pay like $15. Hotel Nutibara and others I have read on here more times than I can count. 47 Hotel? No idea where that even is. LOL. I looked it up. You are like 1km southeast of where you should be. Nah. I would not go outside if I was staying over there either! You need to go back closer to Parque Berrio..
    Read Mr Ent response a few times as all of your questions are clearly stated. Again it is all about expectations, they say that an expectation is the start of resentments meaning go with little or no expectations.

    And don't get frustrated because of a few minor inconveniences (IE no closet or AC in hotel), welcome to Colombia. How much time will you be in Medellin?

    The Tall Man.

  10. #30500
    Atta boy!

    Rest and a good night sleep usually results in a fresh new perspective.

    Guys are just being guys even on this site. We have to fix everything.

    Some people will never ever return to Medellin or Colombia for one reason or another, but there will usually be someone trying to fix it because they should have done this or that because it works for them.

    News flash! Not everyone likes chocolate, big tits or petite naive women.

  11. #30499

    Appreciate All the Feedback

    I really appreciate everyone taking the time to offer some feedback and advice, what a great website this is and Medellin has some very thoughtful posters.

    I think I will focus on quality over quantity. I am about to go look at the Laurels area.

    I am confident it will turn into a great trip. Even today just walking around El Centro was great because of the much more relaxed vibe on a Sunday, I truely enjoyed a 2 hour relaxing walk and meal.

    A couple points, people have criticized the cost of $35 for the hotel. This is the weekend price. I see it for $29 starting Monday. I am told $15 is obtainable at Hotel Nutibara but when I search I see between $31 and $39. How do you get the $15 price?

    The anger management issues were not in the restaurants, it was just how I felt when I came back to the hotel after a trying day, a flight that was delayed to a 4 AM arrival, and then waking at 8 AM unable to sleep, I knew going out would not be a good idea.

    I knew I was writing an angry post but I though it important to get onto the forum how I was feeling in it's raw state rather than wait until the next day and sugar coat everything. I felt expressing my ideas honestly would be the most productive route and it proved correct. After a day of cooling off I still agree with the context of my comments.

    I will reboot and post on the positive experiences I am sure I will have thanks now to all the great advise here.

    Muchas Gracias!

  12. #30498
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    You had me up until this phrase. Maybe women that make a rule for themselves not to fuck someone on the first date are doing it for the sake of rule making and tricking themselves that they have control of themselves. But it has nothing to do with whether they are respectable or not. I have fucked tons of respectable Colombian women on the first date. People are people and people like affection and fucking.

    Plus if I tell everyone I just got a respectable new girl they would probably look at me crazy and say what the fuck does that have to do with anything. Tell me when you get a rich girl or a fine ass girl; but respectable? Uhhh, Okay.
    I'm with you on this one. If a girl gets drunk with you on the first date, then asks to go to your apartment, the probability that she's willing to give it up is pretty high.

    However, if she's drunk enough to be tossing her cookies, I'm not even sleeping in the same bed with her. Falling down drunk girls are a big turnoff and there's always the possibility that the alcohol was making all the decisions. I'd rather avoid any unpleasantness in the morning, not to mention hangover breath.

  13. #30497
    Quote Originally Posted by ColombiaLover  [View Original Post]
    And I know that respectable Colombian women never sleep with a guy on the first date.
    You had me up until this phrase. Maybe women that make a rule for themselves not to fuck someone on the first date are doing it for the sake of rule making and tricking themselves that they have control of themselves. But it has nothing to do with whether they are respectable or not. I have fucked tons of respectable Colombian women on the first date. People are people and people like affection and fucking.

    Plus if I tell everyone I just got a respectable new girl they would probably look at me crazy and say what the fuck does that have to do with anything. Tell me when you get a rich girl or a fine ass girl; but respectable? Uhhh, Okay.

  14. #30496

    Just got back.

    From another week in Medellin. For those who are newer, let me give you some basic facts about me so you can decide whether you want to listen to me or not.

    Been visiting Medellin for 14+ years, but never lived there.

    Married to Colombiana from Bogota for 9 years. Now divorced.

    53 YO gringo. Spanish is functional, but not fluent.

    Used to stay in Poblado. Now stay in Laureles.

    While I often try to tell myself that I'm going to try the casas again, go to Veracruz, or go to Centro strip clubs, I always end up doing the same. I see a mix of regulars and new FB girls and have ventured into the non-pro arena. I could save money by going to casas, but I typically pay FB girls 150 K and taxi one way. Non-pros are not guaranteed sex, but I've had fun with some, even without banging them. My trips are not solely about sex, but enjoying myself.

    At any rate, nothing earth-shattering to say about most of my sessions. I don't think any were bad. Some were great. The best one is from a girl who is average looking and skinny. But she's into it. Loves to suck her own tits and squirt the milk out of her mouth back onto her chest. Tried anal for the first time and I was happy to oblige. I don't do it often, but she likes ass play, so I knew she'd like anal after the initial pain subsided.

    At any rate, on my last night I had a date with a non-pro. She has a normal job and we never talked about sex or money. We decided to go to a place I like in Aranjuez for some cocktails and shots. She asked me to pick her up (instead of her coming to me), which tells you this was more like a normal date. She lives in Villa Hermosa. So I took off in the taxi. Went through a bunch of barrios I did not know. Some of it was a little scary and I was beginning to wonder if I had made a mistake. One street something big was on fire. Passed by a couple of working girls on the corner. Both of them looked pretty hot. If I didn't have a date, I might have gotten the taxi drive to stop so I could talk to one of them.

    Fortunately, when I finally got to her neighborhood in Villa Hermoso, things improved. Her house was on a nice, quiet and clean street in a nice neighborhood. She came out of the house and off we went.

    Got to Aranjuez and went in. The place is not big and it was not crowded. There is a new bar right next door and it was rockin'. But I wanted to stay where we were. Good music. Combo of ranchero, villenato, salsa, etc. Good cocktails. And we could talk with some privacy. Had a nice conversation with her, although I had to work hard because she talked fast and her Spanish was not as clear as I have heard. But very sweet girl. As we drank, she loosened up. She was drinking margaritas and ordered some shots in between. She eventually warmed up a lot, much to my enjoyment. Lots of kisses and hugs and authorized touching. Fun sharing a bom-bom-bon (lollipop).

    Unfortunately, it turns out that she does not often drink a lot, so toward the end of the night, she threw up. No big deal. We got in the taxi and I was going to take her home, but after about 5 minutes she told the taxitas to instead go to my apartment. We slept together, but did not have sex. Which was fine. I had a good evening. And I know that respectable Colombian women never sleep with a guy on the first date.

    The point to all of this is to say that there is a lot of fun to be had in the barrios. I am not suggesting this to newbies or to anyone who knows no Spanish. But it's nice to be somewhere where you are not in the presence of a bunch of loud, drunk gringos. People are nice to me. They do not bother me. I never felt any threat (of course, I get out of the taxi and go into the bar and then leave in a taxi. I do not walk the streets). I always go with a chica, so not trolling the bars alone. It is real Colombia. Not Lleras. Give it a try.

    And by the way, the total bill was 103 mil. That included 8 cocktails and 6 shots. And the waitress was hot. Good times.

  15. #30495

    San Peter Vs. Moderetto (Laureles)

    I am gearing up for my second trip next month. Last time I stayed in Mansion for a couple of days then shifted to San Peter in Laureles for rest of 10 day trip. My biggest complaint there is the noise from the bars in the area especially from Thursday to Sunday. Otherwise, I think its a perfect location to hit up centro during the day and strip clubs plus other P4P areas in the evening. Although I really loved it for the price and location, I think the pricing has crept up in place and is close to Casacol pricing ($50). As you guys may know Casacol has apartments all over MDE including Moderetto in Laureles. I did check it out last time but did not stay there. Any reviews on Casacol places? Can anyone compare san peter with Moderatto building. Also I have read here that Laureles hotels are not P4 P friendly. Any updated info. On the Laureles area by seniors would be appreciated.

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