Manila

[AsiaFever]

Heading to Manila In a week, started moving my tinder to that City to start making matches. This will be my first visit to this country.

How prevalent are the lady boys? There is a heap on tinder and is it easy to spot / identify them at the bars? Don't want you take one home.

[LiveFree25]

Head out to Makati. Book a hotel near Burgos Street. Go to a Burgos Street bar and barfine a day shift girl. She will stay with you for 12 hours. When she leaves the next day at 6. 00 am, check out and head to the airport. Mission accomplished.

Don't try to do too much. It will end up in a complicated mess. Keep it nice and simple. Don't think you are going to miss out on anything.

Thanks for the advice. That may end up as my plan. Kind of stressed since don't have much time to play but don't want to waste the opportunity either.

[Dg8787]

Nicely done

Still doing her at the moment 10:15am. Thanks.

[Engine Driver]

Hello,

I'm enjoying reading and learning about the diff areas of pleasure available in the Philippines. I am flying in in October on a one day layover. I would appreciate some advice from some of you experienced mongers. Since I come into to Ninoy airport in mid afternoon on Sunday and leave Monday around 11 am, should I stay closer to the airport and hit Edsa area or is Makati a reasonable trek to the airport?

Also wondering what the talent level in Edsa vs Burgos is? I read that Cotton Club closed for renovation. Is it still closed? Is Edsa still a viable place to find talent on a Sunday night or is there a better venue? Thanks in advance! I'll be sure to post my experience after my trip!

Head out to Makati. Book a hotel near Burgos Street. Go to a Burgos Street bar and barfine a day shift girl. She will stay with you for 12 hours. When she leaves the next day at 6. 00 am, check out and head to the airport. Mission accomplished.

Don't try to do too much. It will end up in a complicated mess. Keep it nice and simple. Don't think you are going to miss out on anything.

[Engine Driver]

The other night via ANA, NRT to MNL, I arrived at 8:45 pm T3.

Off the plane at 9:00 pm.

Thru immigration 9:10 pm.

Picked up bags 9:14 pm.

At Genesis bus bay 14 9:16 pm.

Bus left for AC 9:30 pm.

Bus pulls up to SM City Clark 11:30 pm.

Grab car arrives 11:38 pm.

One of my all time favorites in hotel at 12:15 am.

Love AC.

Nicely done

[Dg8787]

The other night via ANA, NRT to MNL, I arrived at 8:45 pm T3.

Off the plane at 9:00 pm.

Thru immigration 9:10 pm.

Picked up bags 9:14 pm.

At Genesis bus bay 14 9:16 pm.

Bus left for AC 9:30 pm.

Bus pulls up to SM City Clark 11:30 pm.

Grab car arrives 11:38 pm.

One of my all time favorites in hotel at 12:15 am.

Love AC.

[LiveFree25]

Hello,

I'm enjoying reading and learning about the diff areas of pleasure available in the Philippines. I am flying in in October on a one day layover. I would appreciate some advice from some of you experienced mongers. Since I come into to Ninoy airport in mid afternoon on Sunday and leave Monday around 11 am, should I stay closer to the airport and hit Edsa area or is Makati a reasonable trek to the airport?

Also wondering what the talent level in Edsa vs Burgos is? I read that Cotton Club closed for renovation. Is it still closed? Is Edsa still a viable place to find talent on a Sunday night or is there a better venue? Thanks in advance! I'll be sure to post my experience after my trip!

[ForkTruck]

I am different than most guys on ISG in that I look for girls ages 27 to 38. I don't care if they have a kid or two but not 3 or more. Also youngest kid must be older than breast feeder. Incidentally the one 9, 27 yo I had last week had the worst stretch marks I have yet seen and she was very embarrassed by them and wanted the lights down and wore a short belly corset to cover them, fucked her anyway. All of my pulls are from dating sites. I am far north of 60 yo so I prefer the older girls. The young ones are often arrogant, conceited, in this for the money, etc. And are seldom GFE with an old guy which I want. I have viewed hundreds of profiles and have gotten pretty good at picking out the ones that are perfect for me. They are not for everyone but for me it's OK if they are a 6 or 7 just don't want chubby / fat. I have noticed there are ways from their pics to know the ones who are good to go. Subtle hand signals (very clever) , cleavage shows, scenes on a bed, pics In a mongers hotel room, and some others. My batting average is almost at 1000% now after working it for so long. They never ask me for money although when I offer taxi fare they accept and I always throw another amount to them. The profile verbiage they write is not important. The ages they suggest can be ignored. Lastly I have noticed in the verbiage they write the term "generous guy wanted" which used to show up a lot is now gone. That was always a sign of a girl ready to ride the train. Because the term is virtually gone across the Philippines it seems the girls have some kind of telegraph working. At my age The Philippines is amazing, just hope I can keep it up another couple of years. Pun intended. Well, in an hour I have one coming that I will install at my feet as I sit in my chair on internet and she will suck my dick forever if I want then I will pound her pussy and send her home. I hope I have some juice left after last nites CIM girl. Getting old is a *****.

[Sidtip]

A lot of these Philippines are extremely neurotic and unstable, Fears of men not giving them the full amount of money agreed upon. Afraid of being left somewhere without a way to get back home if they meet you away from their home they are afraid that you will abandon them. e.

I have never experienced this. The girls are usually very confident. Sometimes shy if they are a bit new. Try to make them feel at ease by talking in a nice way and you will soon calm any nerves. A relaxed girl will always be more fun. Talking about yourself instead of them can calm them. Let me know how this goes.

Laos and China have their weird cohabitation laws that are rarely enforced but can be in the Philippines this is not a concern. When I am in Myanmar, Laos, China, Indonesia,

Vetting these women goes a long way to NOT getting a bullet in your head..

I think you will find that the Philippines has some very strict laws about having sex with a married woman, but its not normally a problem. If your level of paranoia or concern is high then ask the girl if she is legally married. If you are really worried, record her reply on your phone. I have never seen anyone mention this before but if you are worried then we should be supportive of your feelings. Also don't worry too much about getting bullets in your head. You might have seen stuff like this in the movies but it doesn't usually happen in Makati haha.

I will sometimes take trips to their homes and talk to their family. p.

This is the best way to discover a country. Some of my best experiences have been travelling to their home towns. In Vietnam the dad cut a jackfruit from the tree and we all sat on the ground eating it, sister plucked fresh lemongrass and stuff from the garden and cooked right there on the concrete, in Cambodia I stayed in the provincial police compound (girl's family lived in the compound because one was police) and watched as they dragged a dude in and listened as he was tasered in the room as they either tried to get him to say sorry / confess or punish him, in the Philippines I stayed in the single room house with 3 mattresses on the floor and 7 people sleeping on them.

I'm serious about this shit when other punters are sleeping or drinking beers I am lining up more pussy. I am not looking at the guys in the bars like some of guys are I am not hanging out with expats. I am actively looking for pussy when in country nonstop.

It is great that you are serious. But try to look around. It makes it all a lot more fun. Watch the interactions. Look for the secret hand signals that the girls use, look at how they react to customers, look at how the punters act towards the girls, sit in a bar and watch people walk by and see the man in the wheelchair collecting donations and then the girl come up and take the money from him and hand it to the dude up the end of the street. And then see who else this group interacts with. Is it the two school age girls on the bike that ride up and down all day. It's fascinating. I visit these places just for punting but looking around an immersing yourself in a country is also part of the experience that more experienced punters have come to know and love. Getting to know some of these people will also help you build connections within the street. Say Hi to the pan handler, the cadger, the scroungers and mooches. They are all part of the tapestry that makes these places so interesting.

One thing that I do often is I use the girls I meet online as a gateway and sometimes the girl I talk to online is not the girl I end up with for the reason that the vetting process of the girl who was online fell through

I am not sure how new to mongering you are. But if you are chatting online to someone and it is not working out, you can ask them if any of their friends are your type. This way you can sometimes get a girl who is thinking about doing it for money but who hasn't done it yet. I love the shy ones, the ones who have never put a cock in their mouths before. They often gag the first time because just the thought of it makes them feel ill. But they put it in slowly and experiment with their tongues and don't know how to speed it up with their hands so its just this warn wet soft feeling as she slides you in and out of her virgin mouth.

[Member #4794]

A. You don't seem the type of guy who gets into long conversations with the hookers. As you can bargain and as they do not have much bargaining power, they probably feel you are f-g them over. When I ask them a price, I walk away if itr is even slightly too high. No more negotiation with her as she is most likely trouble. What unknowns are they afraid of besides alphas kicking them about?

B. What are those other countries. Surely there are plenty of women in the Phils if you tried pluc

A lot of these Philippines are extremely neurotic and unstable, Fears of men not giving them the full amount of money agreed upon. Afraid of being left somewhere without a way to get back home if they meet you away from their home they are afraid that you will abandon them. Afraid that you will not like them due to their inaccurate body image, notably the pubic areas and maybe some scars they have from a child birth or a car accident or maybe a scar left over from a Staph infection, they sometimes are insecure about how their pussy looks or smells, this annoys the fuck out of me. Afraid of you learning the truth about their past. There are about 50 other things these girls are thinking about the moment you meet them. And I do feel that this is exacerbated by the fact they can speak English.

Laos and China have their weird cohabitation laws that are rarely enforced but can be in the Philippines this is not a concern. When I am in Myanmar, Laos, China, Indonesia, Its all about fucking for me and much less GFE and I am clueless to their neurosis as they do not have the ability to convey it which might be the reason why philippinas enjoy Koreans because the interaction is not as personal and the questions asked are not as deep. But this can also be seen as an advantage in terms of bargaining and manipulation for the punter so that's why I say this is like Disneyland because negotiations are wide open if you take advantage of it and assuage their necrotic tendency. Vetting these women goes a long way to NOT getting a bullet in your head. Vetting women is much harder in non English speaking countries. I will sometimes take trips to their homes and talk to their family. Their family does not always have their best interests in mind so they will oftentimes tell you information the women would like to keep secret. There are so many to choose from in phils even if they are hot and if they have some questionable issues I just limit those interactions to a one night stand. Almost all bar girls have a storied and troubled life and that is the reason why I almost ever multi day bar fine a bar girl (don't get me wrong I will still have sex with them, I still bar fine bar girls short time but I just don't give them the opportunity to screw me over). I'm serious about this shit when other punters are sleeping or drinking beers I am lining up more pussy. I am not looking at the guys in the bars like some of guys are I am not hanging out with expats. I am actively looking for pussy when in country nonstop.

A lot of what I say is only for longer term barfines or compensated dating arrangements, I sometimes do a short time in the day time if I can find a reliable location and work on these longer term pay offs during the evening on dates or vise versa. I do get my dick wet regardless.

One thing that I do often is I use the girls I meet online as a gateway and sometimes the girl I talk to online is not the girl I end up with for the reason that the vetting process of the girl who was online fell through but I am able to vet her friend. Which is also harder to do with a language barrier. Its far safer to choose the girl who likes you than to force one that doesn't to be with you. This is how I meet women who are not normally on the market without being shot. But you cannot meet these women unless you go out and actively seek them out. But then again that might be the difference between an experienced monger and a novice one.

[PedroMorales]

. A. If you talk to these girls enough they are all neurotic insanely afraid of unknowns and of being taken advantage of.
B. The Philippines is like Disneyland in terms of safety compared to some of the other countries I've been to and this country is so wide open and the girls are so pliable, uneducated and naive that the whole country is ripe for the pickings.

Please explain A and B.

A. You don't seem the type of guy who gets into long conversations with the hookers. As you can bargain and as they do not have much bargaining power, they probably feel you are f-g them over. When I ask them a price, I walk away if itr is even slightly too high. No more negotiation with her as she is most likely trouble. What unknowns are they afraid of besides alphas kicking them about?

B. What are those other countries. Surely there are plenty of women in the Phils if you tried plucking them someone would put a bullet in your skull?

My take is I can only bonk (not) so many and I have given up on Vitamin V. I negotiate, I keep a low profile and it works.

[Member #4794]

The thing is that this kind of shit is next level for most mongers. They are sex starved back home and are just happy to be sticking their dick into a hole. That is why many of them will try to take some chick on a getaway that they have no chemistry with. I am a pretty good judge (and I can tell that you are too) of whether I should invite this chick on this getaway before even meeting her. I think your advanced methods would be over most mongers' heads though.

A lot of these guys just read these so called tips and think they should be on guard and fearful of their safety. This is just not true you are going to a foreign land and literally having sex with their women. This is a time to dig in and open these girls up not to bunker down and yet again become the victim. Time after time you hear these guys saying how fearful you are about the girls taking advantage of them. All of these guys need to take some responsibility and run the game don't let this game run you and nothing these beta males say will ever happen to you. There is so much fear and trepidation on this board about being taken advantage or scammed that it sucks all the fun out this hobby. You are right that these guys just want sex but. Why not get exactly what you want? I think I got blasted on this forum before about telling the truth. But I'm referring to telling the truth about what you want because more often than not you will get it. When I say tell the truth I don't mean talk about yourself. I think you talking about your personal story is unnecessary. YOU are paying the girl and YOU are in control I don't tell these girls shit about myself but I grill them about their history. If you talk to these girls enough they are all neurotic insanely afraid of unknowns and of being taken advantage of. I would hope my posts would air on the side of not being afraid to get what you want and have as much sex as possible. The Philippines is like Disneyland in terms of safety compared to some of the other countries I've been to and this country is so wide open and the girls are so pliable, uneducated and naive that the whole country is ripe for the pickings.

[Kabul Guy]

..... So I think most chicks would jump at the 30K plus expenses that you gave your friend.

I am comfortable at paying my regulars more than they could make elsewhere in a straight job. Part of it is I want them to dress well, have their hair and nails done regularly to have a gym membership etc.

Part of them I want them to know that being exclusive to me, being with me and making me happy in all ways is very much in their best interests.

[Mr Enternational]

This is normally how compensated dating works in countries where this is a thing. Key is just to be fair and equitable but come out on top in these negotiations. The reason this works out in your favor is because you are setting the market and they may or may not be keen enough to really understand what is going on. It is very rare that they do know what's going on because these girls are usually not very well educated. You basically are negotiating with a high school level individual not a PhD student. Hope this gives you an idea of how to proceed with your compensated dating negotiations.

The thing is that this kind of shit is next level for most mongers. They are sex starved back home and are just happy to be sticking their dick into a hole. That is why many of them will try to take some chick on a getaway that they have no chemistry with. I am a pretty good judge (and I can tell that you are too) of whether I should invite this chick on this getaway before even meeting her. I think your advanced methods would be over most mongers' heads though.

How many times has someone asked how much should I give a chick for taking her somewhere for a few days or a week and someone calculates the already exorbitant amount (say $100) that they are giving chicks when they bar fine them or whatever for one day and multiplies that by the number of days? I have always advocated for giving a chick in that case a reduced rate because it is guaranteed money for her and of course on a regular job she is making nowhere near what I paid her for 1 night. I will usually not take a paid chick for an extended time like that because I know so many unpaid chicks that I can wife up with. But in the extreme case that I did, then I would pay her the $30 that I usually pay chicks for one night, but every subsequent night I would only pay her $15 or something along those lines.

Years ago I met a freelance chick in Pattaya and she told me that if she had a boyfriend that would give her $300 per month then she would no longer need to freelance. That was a way more realistic number than the $1000 per month that I see some girls getting sent to them. So try asking that kind of question to the girl. How much did you make on your last job? How much would a job have to pay for you to consider it a good job? You will not get the crazy amounts like $100 per day, that is for damn sure.

That is why it helps knowing something about the cost of living of the place that you are visiting. Stop thinking about what shit would cost back home or how much you would have to pay a chick back home, and get into your head what kind of money people on normal jobs are getting paid locally. Most guys are not realizing that 30,000 pesos per month is way more than the average person would see. My ex-girlfriend works at a massage shop in Angeles and she told me she makes from 15K to 18K per month. And my chick that has a PhD and is a university dean makes about 35K. So I think most chicks would jump at the 30K plus expenses that you gave your friend.

[Member #4794]

Would you be doing this after your first time? It sounds like a bad idea to try to book a girl for a week before you even meet her.

You have to ask yourself what they want from you. In most cases its going to be money. So what I do is ask how much money they want. Ask what they are after and let them create some image / dream of their optimal situation.

You want to be totally fair and up front for both parties and negotiate the larger sum only when you know you have some chemistry. This way you can talk to several girls and choose from which ever one you click with. One way you can do this is set up dates one on each day or 2 a day if you are up for it and tell them you are busy until you find the one you want and then start the negotiations with that one. So you want her to ask you this question. And this is how you answer it.

Girl: How much you give me?

Monger: How much do you want what is a crazy number? Tell me how much you really want?

Normally girls will say 7000 or 10,000 quite low for that kind of question but astronomically high for them.

What you want to do is get some dream number in her head philipinas are not really "pie in the sky" dreamers so more often than not they will throw a reasonable number at you. There are 2 ways you can make this work. If she wants 10 k you could possible get her to stay with you for 30 days for 10 k which is 333 pesos a night plus food. Or per week that 10 k would be around 1. 5 k a day plus food. I have on occasion thrown in a 1 k budget for shopping when ever we go to a mall which is probably 15-10 items during the months in addition to that 10 k so it comes out to 15-20 k a month or 500-600 pesos a day monthly. This is actually much cheaper than normal mongering. Why this works well is the girl is actively getting money and funds and she is waiting for the lump sum at the end of the trip. So you have constant positive reinforcement followed by a pay day for her. What this means for you is. IF you were to agree to 2-3 k a day for a month that's 60-90 k. Which starts to get pretty pricey. Because you are still dishing out meals and transportation and incidentals like a tooth brush and lotion and stuff she throws into your basket at the supermarket. Whatever number you arrive at 20 k 30 k do not exceed your normal daily allotment, Take into account that she might menstruate and you may or may not have sex everyday so I would say lower your normal budget by 30-50% when you are considering a total. You should count food and transport into this total however you need not let her in on this hidden total. You just need this over all total to not exceed your normal budget. If they calculate that you are not giving them the 90 k they would other wise get if they had a LT session for 30 days you can remind them of the food and transportation and other expenses involved in that and ask if she wants to split those expenses or you will find someone else to drop a brick of money onto. They fall in like pretty quickly. (One caveat is this does not work for bar girls or women who have pimps because she is not the only one who is getting enriched and the reason why i don't long term barfine and find freelancers instead for longer term dating situations. )

Never give this lump sum up front no matter what sob story they dream up that is your only leverage. You will be sure they will be on their best behavior if they are shopping and waiting on a pay day. This also does not effect other mongers as this kind of drives the prices down instead of inflating them this helps the community as a whole. This is normally how compensated dating works in countries where this is a thing. Key is just to be fair and equitable but come out on top in these negotiations. The reason this works out in your favor is because you are setting the market and they may or may not be keen enough to really understand what is going on. It is very rare that they do know what's going on because these girls are usually not very well educated. You basically are negotiating with a high school level individual not a PhD student. Hope this gives you an idea of how to proceed with your compensated dating negotiations.