FKK Artemis - Berlin

[Howie]

Evan with incredible wheelnut nipples and Natasha with lovely black fishnets and pierced nipples. But nice girls though they were they were not into my personal likes and dislikes and so we passed.

Lilia was lovely but too heavy for me. Evan. Incredible nipples and very intelligent. A solid 7 pushing 8/10. The facially very attractive red head Anabel.

Love that analogy "wheelnut nipples". She has one of the best pair of tits I've ever seen. Only problem is she won't let anyone lick them as she says that they are very sensitive and gives her the goose bumps when anyone tries. The only other girl that I have seen with similar pair of tits was Helli/Kelly of Sharks.

Interesting rating on Even/Evan. Currently the hottest girl for me at Artemis. For optics, I'll probably rate her a 8.5 pushing 9/10. I like the slim gazelle types over the curvaceous porn star type bodies. Service wise she has some restrictions so not totally surprised that you passed on her. Good to hear that she is still around.

Nice report.

Howie.

[Pistons]

120 an hour is not really very cheap. It is a higher pay, with far lower taxes than any job requiring a 5-year university degree. The price is only this high because of global politicians wanting p6 to be illegal. And we can probably disagree on the reasons why that is, but market forces would easily drop the 1 HR price to about 50 e if it was legal everywhere. And perhaps even half of that if we opened our borders to immigration from much poorer countries. It is all about supply and demand where legislation is a main driver.

100 naked girls? Give me a break? In a sane world without any prejudices, we should be allowed to have this at any public beach anywhere in the world. And they'd all be fine doing you publicly for 50 e or less.

Personally I'd rather be fucking on a beach with 0 entry cost than at a closed of FKK. As of there is anything to hide. But the world had been deceived by the devil, and he doesn't like nor allow sex. It is even in the bible if you read it the right way and understands the nephilim story correctly alongside some old Sumerian texts.

[PayForIt]

Please stop rationalizing price gouging and sharking. No one cares how much you paid in Vive (whatever that even is), or any other place where SW criminalization has let to desperate mongers willing to pay overinflated prices. The reason why people come to places like Germany, Mexico or Asia is access to reasonably priced providers.

The only reason why Artemis girls are able to get sway with bad service for 30/60 is precisely because of lack of competition and lack of variety of FKKs in Berlin. They would never be able to get away with it in NRW, where we routinely pay 30 for 30 in many clubs and get good service. And that's the reason why I'd never set my foot in this dump of a club.

I'm afraid this is simply a case of a clash of opinions. A couple of responses:

1. It is absolutely not correct that "the reason people come to places like Germany is access to reasonably priced providers". You see people in all of these forums willing to fly from USA, Japan, UK, etc to Germany. It costs a lot to get here. Why fly all of this way? It's not for cheap prices. It is to be in a club surrounded by 100+ naked women you can mingle with before choosing. THAT is the reason tourists pay to come here, not for the price. By the time we add the cost of flights, hotels, taxis or PT, entry fee, the sex in Germany is actually no cheaper than elsewhere. Trust me, I can get a walk up in Soho London where a girl will give me sex for under £100. Far cheaper than incurring all the above cost. In a small town like say Blackburn you'the get that sex for even less. Low prices are not the attraction. Indeed, it might be said that the prices in Germany are very high. Take this as an example, let's say I hit Palace in Frankfurt. 75 entry, now 100/30 for a lot of the girls if you want BBBJ. Some will take 150/60. So it has cost me at least 225 for my first fuck. You think that's cheap compared to other destinations? It's not.

2. I would agree that people go to Asia for mainly the prices. But you referred to Artemis being a "dump of a club". I've been to places in Asia which make Artemis look like a 5 star hotel. Indeed there are not many places in Asia which are at all pleasant to be in. Take the horrendous rooms in Orchard Towers Singapore. And they are good compared to Thailand, Bali and Jakarta. They are Dumps of a Club.

3. If I want to price comparison that's my prerogative. People complain about the pricing these days. My point is simply that to expect to be able to have this wonderful experience of being surrounded by 100+ naked women to choose from, 120 an hour is really very cheap.

4. I've been to NRW which you cite many times. Maybe I go to the wrong places. But you don't get sexy girls, fabulous (not dumps) clubs and amazing service for 30/30 in Oceans, Samya, Mondale, Babylon, LR, or indeed anywhere else I can think of or have been. So please do share the details of the top end (not dump) clubs, with top girls, who look good, who are choosing to sell sex for 30/30 instead of earning 50/30 in the clubs I just listed. You must know some smaller venues where prices are this attractive and if they are nice places with decent LU options please do let me have their names. I would love to try them! I accept that small clubs can be attractive, and you can get a great surprise, for a reasonable price. I remember great sessions in Samya when it was 50/30/75/100. But Oceans opened and killed that second 30 for 25. If those sorts of prices still exist (you say 30/30) in some nice clubs, please let us know their names.

And Vive. I don't mention it out of irrelvance. It is a fabulous club in Madrid. You will rarely be amongst so many stunning 9/10 girls from literally all over the World (not just latinas / EE). Punters there are not there because they are "desperate" and paying overinflated prices. They attend because the chance to fuck that standard of girls, and so many of them in one place, is unique. You may not be interested to know about it, but with respect, you don't speak for everyone - "no one cares. ". Punters do like to make price comparisons. It is why these forums regularly contain comments about how much people charge.

Finally I am a little surprised you even saw my post on Artemis. Why on earth would you even be looking at / reading a forum at all of a club you describe as a "dump" you would "never set my foot in"?

[Danny227]

So many thanks to my fellow contributors for their comments. Before setting out the detail of what ended up being an even better night at Artemis than the first, I will reply to some of the comments made:

The Cane: Lilia from Kiel worked tonight. What a very nice lady. Nice eyes and terrific natural large breasts, but for my liking a little too heavy so I declined but what a lovely girl.

Pinball Machine: Thanks. Glad you liked the report and hope you'll like this one too.

Expat Lover: I 100% agree that the monopoly Artemis has in Berlin is very poor for the market. The proposed new club in Potsdam didn't happen and the monopoly is a very significant negative for mongers as the girls know you have few other options. To turn up at a walk in, be confronted by 4 or 5 girls and have to pick without speaking to them for more than 10 second is on offer elsewhere in Bordellos. But that's what we get back in the UK and US and it is weak and you are at great risk of picking someone who you have no chemistry with. This is the beauty of the FKK model. I spoke to several girls tonight I really liked. Particularly Natasha and Evan. Neither of whom worked last night, both had great bodies. Evan with incredible wheelnut nipples and Natasha with lovely black fishnets and pierced nipples. But nice girls though they were they were not into my personal likes and dislikes and so we passed. It is true that there is little better alternative in Berlin as you say. So sadly there is every reason to go to Artemis as there is no good alternative and for me, the club still has many beauties.

Bigbuddy. I gave up on LR the last time I went. Whilst Sharks and Artemis have smokey bars, there are places to escape with lovely fresh air where there are still girls (e. G. Downstairs in the kino / pool area / wellness at Artemis). LR has a cancer inducing main room where the girls all stand. I have never experienced forced smoke inhalation like it anywhere in the World and I am sad as I like the free beer fridges but the restaurant is tiny, and the cancer risk high. So I won't be returning anytime soon. I only head there if Oceans LU is weak and even then only in real desperation. Cannot speak for Aca but don't like tiny, or none approach clubs.

Danny227. Nice response with many perfectly fair points. To each their own with Mel. There tonight and when no lingerie the boobs looked very tired and drawn and I agree with you that she doesn't get to 8 with those and the large ass. Carla is just amazing and her service is terrific. I repeat your enumerated points for reply below;.

1. Hardly any fresh girls. (I disagree. Several have abandoned Sharks for Artemis. Blonde pretty Kimberley at Sharks is now Jasmine at Artemis). Several others were there tonight who the experienced girls told me " I don't know her she has only been here two weeks".

2. Near zero chance for a good 60 euro session. I totally agree but then I don't do 30 min sessions unless the girl is useless and I tend now to know that from the pre room interview which is essential when planning longer rooms.

3. Old and silicone is dominant in Artemis. Sillicone I agree with. Old I don't. There are definitely too many older girls. But there are also some young ones. I think the average is above the Hessen and NRW clubs but not much over 30 which is fine for me.

4. For 170 an hour you can get decent service for mist those girls, but nit the German girls and at the moment Artemis has roughly 20 Germans. You forgot that 50 of that 170 was for a defined extra so the real price for fabulous service from Carla was 120. I agree that if you are willing to Payforit (sorry couldn't resist and its why its my nick on here!) you get known for it. As I had paid handsomely last night I found a lot of very receptive girls tonight. For anyone not living in Germany these prices are fine. In Spain I expect to pay min 150/ hour if not 200 in most places, 240 in Vive (which is exceptional and 300/ hour in Miladys Palace). In London 150 is available but the best girls range from 200 to 600 per hour. In Australia average is the equivalent of 200/ hour. In Dubai the same for quality. Germans have feasted for a long time on 50/30 rooms or 60 at Artemis. I actually agree with the girls on this. Why should a girl go to the room, totally naked, give you access to her pussy, give you DFK, a BBBJ and work hard on you for 30 minutes all for 60? Time has moved on. It was 60/30 in 2013! Everything else has gone up in price. Why not this? You wouldn't stop buying food if it got expensive and our mutual habit has been very cheap in Germany for a long time. I don't think paying 120 for an hour with a very pretty girl with great service is at all expensive.

No changes result for your review. You are entitled to your opinion but clearly some disagree. This club was being portayed as dead. It is not dead. There are still some very pretty girls to chose from and some have abandoned Hessen for Berlin (and are therefore fresh).

So quickly to tonight. More buzz about the club. Lots of girls I did not see last night. Contemplated a threesome with Jessica and Avia? Both German and great fun. Lilia was lovely but too heavy for me. Evan. Incredible nipples and very intelligent. A solid 7 pushing 8/10. The facially very attractive red head Anabel. But wait for it. She was too skinny for me! And her red haired friend. Also pretty and young. The three sisters were absent. Back from the past Elena. Blonde before. Stunning cheekbones and lovely lingerie but she is one who holds cock when being fucked which I loathe..

Kimberly, while extremely sweet has a pretty face and disproportionate body, is really really not a definition of a good girl: she doesn't room a lot and when she does make sure you take your check book with you and she is there for less than a week. Not an example at all. Apologies. BTW: service is non existent. Fact.

What I meant is, so most girls like Carla will not give you 1 hour for 120 good service. Just won't. The added extra does that and it makes more sense to them like I said, you got lucky with Carla. Maybe you have not been in Artemis for a while so your eyes didn't adjust yet: dominated by old women, period. Older is 35-40. Old in this job is already 30. Girls that work 7-10 years. Old and not fresh. You'll see it once your eyes adjust. No irony here, seriously.

And the most important is that most people like to go for half an hour and get a reasonable value for money: near zero chance to find. Most people don't want to spend 200 in the room. So, for the majority of clients, Artemis is a very difficult environment. So, young and fresh girls that will give you good service and passionately kiss you with minimum money discussions (those kill the atmosphere) in a half hour session are in NRW and Hessen, but not in Artemis. Artemis is a club for visitors or foreigners that don't mind paying too much and have lower service requirements. Visit NRW and then report back to us dear friend.

Glad you enjoy it. Have a great time!

[Danny227]

Actually in LR you'll pay 100 and in Acapulco you'll pay 80, without any pressure about extras.

Absolutely true. I said 150 because he had one extra, so I included it. So true, Acapulco with the extra will be 130.

[The Cane]

The Cane: Lilia from Kiel worked tonight. What a very nice lady. Nice eyes and terrific natural large breasts, but for my liking a little too heavy so I declined but what a lovely girl.

Yes, Lilia is bigger and taller than Melissa, especially if she's wearing some heels. Very Germanic in her appearance, which I prefer, and not a "gazelle" as some of the guys here describe some of the women. I think Melissa is from Slovenia. Both very nice girls, but I like Lilia's look and performance better. There is some debate about whether her tits are natural or not, but I say who cares? If they aren't, then she had one damn good job done!

[Klaflare]

Please stop rationalizing price gouging and sharking. No one cares how much you paid in Vive (whatever that even is), or any other place where SW criminalization has let to desperate mongers willing to pay overinflated prices. The reason why people come to places like Germany, Mexico or Asia is access to reasonably priced providers.

The only reason why Artemis girls are able to get sway with bad service for 30/60 is precisely because of lack of competition and lack of variety of FKKs in Berlin. They would never be able to get away with it in NRW, where we routinely pay 30 for 30 in many clubs and get good service. And that's the reason why I'd never set my foot in this dump of a club.

It's so funny hearing people complain about prices. Don't like the prices then don't go.

[Ctytek]

Please stop rationalizing price gouging and sharking. No one cares how much you paid in Vive (whatever that even is), or any other place where SW criminalization has let to desperate mongers willing to pay overinflated prices. The reason why people come to places like Germany, Mexico or Asia is access to reasonably priced providers.

The only reason why Artemis girls are able to get sway with bad service for 30/60 is precisely because of lack of competition and lack of variety of FKKs in Berlin. They would never be able to get away with it in NRW, where we routinely pay 30 for 30 in many clubs and get good service. And that's the reason why I'd never set my foot in this dump of a club.

4. For 170 an hour you can get decent service for mist those girls, but nit the German girls and at the moment Artemis has roughly 20 Germans. You forgot that 50 of that 170 was for a defined extra so the real price for fabulous service from Carla was 120. I agree that if you are willing to Payforit (sorry couldn't resist and its why its my nick on here!) you get known for it. As I had paid handsomely last night I found a lot of very receptive girls tonight. For anyone not living in Germany these prices are fine. In Spain I expect to pay min 150/ hour if not 200 in most places, 240 in Vive (which is exceptional and 300/ hour in Miladys Palace).

[PayForIt]

So many thanks to my fellow contributors for their comments. Before setting out the detail of what ended up being an even better night at Artemis than the first, I will reply to some of the comments made:

The Cane: Lilia from Kiel worked tonight. What a very nice lady. Nice eyes and terrific natural large breasts, but for my liking a little too heavy so I declined but what a lovely girl.

Pinball Machine: Thanks. Glad you liked the report and hope you'll like this one too.

Expat Lover: I 100% agree that the monopoly Artemis has in Berlin is very poor for the market. The proposed new club in Potsdam didn't happen and the monopoly is a very significant negative for mongers as the girls know you have few other options. To turn up at a walk in, be confronted by 4 or 5 girls and have to pick without speaking to them for more than 10 second is on offer elsewhere in Bordellos. But that's what we get back in the UK and US and it is weak and you are at great risk of picking someone who you have no chemistry with. This is the beauty of the FKK model. I spoke to several girls tonight I really liked. Particularly Natasha and Evan. Neither of whom worked last night, both had great bodies. Evan with incredible wheelnut nipples and Natasha with lovely black fishnets and pierced nipples. But nice girls though they were they were not into my personal likes and dislikes and so we passed. It is true that there is little better alternative in Berlin as you say. So sadly there is every reason to go to Artemis as there is no good alternative and for me, the club still has many beauties.

Bigbuddy. I gave up on LR the last time I went. Whilst Sharks and Artemis have smokey bars, there are places to escape with lovely fresh air where there are still girls (e. G. Downstairs in the kino / pool area / wellness at Artemis). LR has a cancer inducing main room where the girls all stand. I have never experienced forced smoke inhalation like it anywhere in the World and I am sad as I like the free beer fridges but the restaurant is tiny, and the cancer risk high. So I won't be returning anytime soon. I only head there if Oceans LU is weak and even then only in real desperation. Cannot speak for Aca but don't like tiny, or none approach clubs.

Danny227. Nice response with many perfectly fair points. To each their own with Mel. There tonight and when no lingerie the boobs looked very tired and drawn and I agree with you that she doesn't get to 8 with those and the large ass. Carla is just amazing and her service is terrific. I repeat your enumerated points for reply below;.

1. Hardly any fresh girls. (I disagree. Several have abandoned Sharks for Artemis. Blonde pretty Kimberley at Sharks is now Jasmine at Artemis). Several others were there tonight who the experienced girls told me " I don't know her she has only been here two weeks".

2. Near zero chance for a good 60 euro session. I totally agree but then I don't do 30 min sessions unless the girl is useless and I tend now to know that from the pre room interview which is essential when planning longer rooms.

3. Old and silicone is dominant in Artemis. Sillicone I agree with. Old I don't. There are definitely too many older girls. But there are also some young ones. I think the average is above the Hessen and NRW clubs but not much over 30 which is fine for me.

4. For 170 an hour you can get decent service for mist those girls, but nit the German girls and at the moment Artemis has roughly 20 Germans. You forgot that 50 of that 170 was for a defined extra so the real price for fabulous service from Carla was 120. I agree that if you are willing to Payforit (sorry couldn't resist and its why its my nick on here!) you get known for it. As I had paid handsomely last night I found a lot of very receptive girls tonight. For anyone not living in Germany these prices are fine. In Spain I expect to pay min 150/ hour if not 200 in most places, 240 in Vive (which is exceptional and 300/ hour in Miladys Palace). In London 150 is available but the best girls range from 200 to 600 per hour. In Australia average is the equivalent of 200/ hour. In Dubai the same for quality. Germans have feasted for a long time on 50/30 rooms or 60 at Artemis. I actually agree with the girls on this. Why should a girl go to the room, totally naked, give you access to her pussy, give you DFK, a BBBJ and work hard on you for 30 minutes all for 60? Time has moved on. It was 60/30 in 2013! Everything else has gone up in price. Why not this? You wouldn't stop buying food if it got expensive and our mutual habit has been very cheap in Germany for a long time. I don't think paying 120 for an hour with a very pretty girl with great service is at all expensive.

No changes result for your review. You are entitled to your opinion but clearly some disagree. This club was being portayed as dead. It is not dead. There are still some very pretty girls to chose from and some have abandoned Hessen for Berlin (and are therefore fresh).

So quickly to tonight. More buzz about the club. Lots of girls I did not see last night. Contemplated a threesome with Jessica and Avia? Both German and great fun. Lilia was lovely but too heavy for me. Evan. Incredible nipples and very intelligent. A solid 7 pushing 8/10. The facially very attractive red head Anabel. But wait for it. She was too skinny for me! And her red haired friend. Also pretty and young. The three sisters were absent. Back from the past Elena. Blonde before. Stunning cheekbones and lovely lingerie but she is one who holds cock when being fucked which I loathe.

I can honestly say I was spoilt for choice. Very much wanted a session with the lovely Natasha (fishnets) but got the vibe it would be mechanical. Had a few beers, laughed a lot with a very tall girl who kept pulling my towel from around my waist in the bar (much to the amusement of several very nice Spanish guys) but ultimately selected a threesome for 1. 5 hours with Carla (again) and her friend Francesca. Brunette with glasses. Had a truly fabulous session, lots of laughs, lots of great sex, DFK from Carla was amazing (so it is available and I paid no more for it) and Francesca was another great service provider in the room. Left very happy and will definitely revisit Artemis without leaving it so long next time. Yes there are oldies, fatties, silicones and tattoos. More than elsewhere to be fair. But I remember once thinking the LU in Sharks was awful. To counter those negative options there remain lots of good ones and as I'm happy to have 2 or 3 great rooms with really lovely and sexy girls, it is still very much an option for me.

[BigBuddy69]

Actually in LR you'll pay 100 and in Acapulco you'll pay 80, without any pressure about extras.

[Danny227]

So, looking back at my previous posts, my last trip to Artemis was August 2017 so nearly 2 years ago. I headed my report then "not dead" to counter reports that the club had all but died.

In the past week I've been looking forward to my trip this evening but that dampened a lot reading many of the negative reports about the club from some seasoned members. Only one positive post from The Cane about a girl called Lilia was a cause for optimism. So here is what I found from a report on the ground.

1. Arrived 8 pm. Club very quiet. I had in mind that it is holiday season and that it is Wednesday (dessous) which I thought might kill numbers. It seemed correct.

2. Got food. Changed layout from last visit with food now at end of the room. Better set out but still pretty poor in quality and I will eat outside before returning to the club tomorrow. Which I shall most certainly do.

3. LU. The important bit. Sure, it is correct that there are many more shapes and sizes than in previous years, a lot of sillicone and tattoos. But in my view that was always there. There are far more older women there now but the overall impression given of it being a very tired, ugly line up, from my perspective, is wide of the mark. There are a lot of very doable girls in the club..

A good experience makes everything better. Carla is indeed a strong 8. Also skills are there as she works many years. Melanie fir me a 6, apologies. Yes there some pretty girls, for example the redhead Anabel, but no matter what you pay, you'll get nothing. Most Romanians in Artemis for 1 hour plus CIM will give you good service. However, Romanians are light in youth there. Carla is an example of old but phenomenal looks. IMO. You were in luck as that week started 5-6 girls from Hessen area and are 8 easily.

The young Romanian you rejected for age was a good move as skills are limited.

Put differently; most Romanians will provide you good service for long session plus CIM (they all must make something more than the time to be happy); Germans are a tough sell even in long sessions, be aware. For short half an hour sessions for 60 euro you have a very very low probability of getting serviced.

So decent service not great goes with spending 170 an hour as wrote previously a few times. But, you want get it from beautiful fresh girls normally, but older silicone Romanians. It makes a difference IMO.

Go Sharks, GT, Oase, living room, Acapulco and you'll pay 150 an hour with younger and fresher girls who will kiss you passionately. In Artemis that is not on the menu.

As a tourist, that visits every once in a while and willing to spend 170 an hour on that type of service you can have a decent night, not outstandingly perfect. Half hour customer have near zero chance to have a great time.

So happy truly happy you had a good time, but it doesn't contradict the basic premise of previous reviews.

1. Hardly any fresh girls.

2. Near zero chance for a good 60 euro session.

3. Old and silicone is dominant in Artemis.

4. For 170 an hour you can get decent service for mist those girls, but nit the German girls and at the moment Artemis has roughly 20 Germans.

No changes result for your review.

Hope you enjoy rest if the week.

Best regards friend!

[PinballMachine]

So, looking back at my previous posts, my last trip to Artemis was August 2017 so nearly 2 years ago. I headed my report then "not dead" to counter reports that the club had all but died.

Such a great report.

Many thanks man.

[ExpatLover]

So, looking back at my previous posts, my last trip to Artemis was August 2017 so nearly 2 years ago. I headed my report then "not dead" to counter reports that the club had all but died.

In the past week I've been looking forward to my trip this evening but that dampened a lot reading many of the negative reports about the club from some seasoned members. Only one positive post from The Cane about a girl called Lilia was a cause for optimism. So here is what I found from a report on the ground.

1. Arrived 8 pm. Club very quiet. I had in mind that it is holiday season and that it is Wednesday (dessous) which I thought might kill numbers. It seemed correct.

2. Got food. Changed layout from last visit with food now at end of the room. Better set out but still pretty poor in quality and I will eat outside before returning to the club tomorrow. Which I shall most certainly do.

3. LU. The important bit. Sure, it is correct that there are many more shapes and sizes than in previous years, a lot of sillicone and tattoos. But in my view that was always there. There are far more older women there now but the overall impression given of it being a very tired, ugly line up, from my perspective, is wide of the mark. There are a lot of very doable girls in the club. There are lots of slim girls, and quite a few girls who are early 20's. Not as many as are late 20's / early 30's but enough..

What the girls are thinking about us is meanness we are the client they are the prostitutes, we pay. For me you just confirm that if you add the high entry price, there is no reason to visit A except you have no choice and you are busy in Berlin.

[Nooky Ninja]

The reports of the LU being so dreadful, IMHO, are exaggerated. I thoroughly enjoyed my trip to Artemis tonight and will return. It really is not as bad as has been made out.

Nice, balanced, report. Amazing what a little patience, sanity and common sense do for one's enjoyment.

[The Cane]

So, looking back at my previous posts, my last trip to Artemis was August 2017 so nearly 2 years ago. I headed my report then "not dead" to counter reports that the club had all but died. I thought parts of the club are looking in need of freshening up. But over the years I've never had a bad night in Artemis and this one followed that pattern. I'll be back there tomorrow evening seeking out some of the 8's I didn't get to today. But safe in the knowledge that the club is far from dead, has several girls I'd very much like to see and the reports of the LU being so dreadful, IMHO, are exaggerated. I thoroughly enjoyed my trip to Artemis tonight and will return. It really is not as bad as has been made out.

From one veteran to another. Here, here! And here's to hopefully finding Lilia LOL! Cheers!