Manila

[Sidtip]

A lot of these Philippines are extremely neurotic and unstable, Fears of men not giving them the full amount of money agreed upon. Afraid of being left somewhere without a way to get back home if they meet you away from their home they are afraid that you will abandon them. e.

I have never experienced this. The girls are usually very confident. Sometimes shy if they are a bit new. Try to make them feel at ease by talking in a nice way and you will soon calm any nerves. A relaxed girl will always be more fun. Talking about yourself instead of them can calm them. Let me know how this goes.

Laos and China have their weird cohabitation laws that are rarely enforced but can be in the Philippines this is not a concern. When I am in Myanmar, Laos, China, Indonesia,

Vetting these women goes a long way to NOT getting a bullet in your head..

I think you will find that the Philippines has some very strict laws about having sex with a married woman, but its not normally a problem. If your level of paranoia or concern is high then ask the girl if she is legally married. If you are really worried, record her reply on your phone. I have never seen anyone mention this before but if you are worried then we should be supportive of your feelings. Also don't worry too much about getting bullets in your head. You might have seen stuff like this in the movies but it doesn't usually happen in Makati haha.

I will sometimes take trips to their homes and talk to their family. p.

This is the best way to discover a country. Some of my best experiences have been travelling to their home towns. In Vietnam the dad cut a jackfruit from the tree and we all sat on the ground eating it, sister plucked fresh lemongrass and stuff from the garden and cooked right there on the concrete, in Cambodia I stayed in the provincial police compound (girl's family lived in the compound because one was police) and watched as they dragged a dude in and listened as he was tasered in the room as they either tried to get him to say sorry / confess or punish him, in the Philippines I stayed in the single room house with 3 mattresses on the floor and 7 people sleeping on them.

I'm serious about this shit when other punters are sleeping or drinking beers I am lining up more pussy. I am not looking at the guys in the bars like some of guys are I am not hanging out with expats. I am actively looking for pussy when in country nonstop.

It is great that you are serious. But try to look around. It makes it all a lot more fun. Watch the interactions. Look for the secret hand signals that the girls use, look at how they react to customers, look at how the punters act towards the girls, sit in a bar and watch people walk by and see the man in the wheelchair collecting donations and then the girl come up and take the money from him and hand it to the dude up the end of the street. And then see who else this group interacts with. Is it the two school age girls on the bike that ride up and down all day. It's fascinating. I visit these places just for punting but looking around an immersing yourself in a country is also part of the experience that more experienced punters have come to know and love. Getting to know some of these people will also help you build connections within the street. Say Hi to the pan handler, the cadger, the scroungers and mooches. They are all part of the tapestry that makes these places so interesting.

One thing that I do often is I use the girls I meet online as a gateway and sometimes the girl I talk to online is not the girl I end up with for the reason that the vetting process of the girl who was online fell through

I am not sure how new to mongering you are. But if you are chatting online to someone and it is not working out, you can ask them if any of their friends are your type. This way you can sometimes get a girl who is thinking about doing it for money but who hasn't done it yet. I love the shy ones, the ones who have never put a cock in their mouths before. They often gag the first time because just the thought of it makes them feel ill. But they put it in slowly and experiment with their tongues and don't know how to speed it up with their hands so its just this warn wet soft feeling as she slides you in and out of her virgin mouth.

[PedroMorales]

. A. If you talk to these girls enough they are all neurotic insanely afraid of unknowns and of being taken advantage of.
B. The Philippines is like Disneyland in terms of safety compared to some of the other countries I've been to and this country is so wide open and the girls are so pliable, uneducated and naive that the whole country is ripe for the pickings.

Please explain A and B.

A. You don't seem the type of guy who gets into long conversations with the hookers. As you can bargain and as they do not have much bargaining power, they probably feel you are f-g them over. When I ask them a price, I walk away if itr is even slightly too high. No more negotiation with her as she is most likely trouble. What unknowns are they afraid of besides alphas kicking them about?

B. What are those other countries. Surely there are plenty of women in the Phils if you tried plucking them someone would put a bullet in your skull?

My take is I can only bonk (not) so many and I have given up on Vitamin V. I negotiate, I keep a low profile and it works.

[Kabul Guy]

..... So I think most chicks would jump at the 30K plus expenses that you gave your friend.

I am comfortable at paying my regulars more than they could make elsewhere in a straight job. Part of it is I want them to dress well, have their hair and nails done regularly to have a gym membership etc.

Part of them I want them to know that being exclusive to me, being with me and making me happy in all ways is very much in their best interests.

[Mr Enternational]

This is normally how compensated dating works in countries where this is a thing. Key is just to be fair and equitable but come out on top in these negotiations. The reason this works out in your favor is because you are setting the market and they may or may not be keen enough to really understand what is going on. It is very rare that they do know what's going on because these girls are usually not very well educated. You basically are negotiating with a high school level individual not a PhD student. Hope this gives you an idea of how to proceed with your compensated dating negotiations.

The thing is that this kind of shit is next level for most mongers. They are sex starved back home and are just happy to be sticking their dick into a hole. That is why many of them will try to take some chick on a getaway that they have no chemistry with. I am a pretty good judge (and I can tell that you are too) of whether I should invite this chick on this getaway before even meeting her. I think your advanced methods would be over most mongers' heads though.

How many times has someone asked how much should I give a chick for taking her somewhere for a few days or a week and someone calculates the already exorbitant amount (say $100) that they are giving chicks when they bar fine them or whatever for one day and multiplies that by the number of days? I have always advocated for giving a chick in that case a reduced rate because it is guaranteed money for her and of course on a regular job she is making nowhere near what I paid her for 1 night. I will usually not take a paid chick for an extended time like that because I know so many unpaid chicks that I can wife up with. But in the extreme case that I did, then I would pay her the $30 that I usually pay chicks for one night, but every subsequent night I would only pay her $15 or something along those lines.

Years ago I met a freelance chick in Pattaya and she told me that if she had a boyfriend that would give her $300 per month then she would no longer need to freelance. That was a way more realistic number than the $1000 per month that I see some girls getting sent to them. So try asking that kind of question to the girl. How much did you make on your last job? How much would a job have to pay for you to consider it a good job? You will not get the crazy amounts like $100 per day, that is for damn sure.

That is why it helps knowing something about the cost of living of the place that you are visiting. Stop thinking about what shit would cost back home or how much you would have to pay a chick back home, and get into your head what kind of money people on normal jobs are getting paid locally. Most guys are not realizing that 30,000 pesos per month is way more than the average person would see. My ex-girlfriend works at a massage shop in Angeles and she told me she makes from 15K to 18K per month. And my chick that has a PhD and is a university dean makes about 35K. So I think most chicks would jump at the 30K plus expenses that you gave your friend.

[Donnahito]

MontanaMonger,

Reading your reports really makes me appreciate the level of detail you put in and quality you give us. Now, when trying to negotiate a lump sum for a DIA girl, would you be doing this after your first time? It sounds like a bad idea to try to book a girl for a week before you even meet her. If you're trying to talk after meeting and extend your time together, I guess some potential pitfalls would be her being busy during the times you are available?

[Mr Enternational]

Sometimes when opportunity presents itself you got to jump on it no harm in asking a question.

Great fucking reports. I like your style of mongering. I like how you practice price discrimination. You realize that there is no need to give every chick 3K ST, so you pay according to the situation. Like you gave the one chick 2K per day, which is plenty enough.

Smart how you did not fall for the Burgos chick's guilt trip of asking why you were so cheap. You told her that she was not worth 3K, only 1K plus tip. That is a play out of my book. Even if she was worth it, I would make her think she was not. That is what game is.

In LA Cafe the girls are supposed to pay the bar (no idea how much) if they have not bought a drink. I guess this is when you walk out together. So what I always do is tell the girl I will meet her outside for the bar fee to be avoided. And stay away from those dick pills before you kill yourself!

[Renaldo B]

Manila. It is what it is. Trip report.

The next day I was off to AC. To be continued in the AC forum.

Hi MM,

Great post! I'm in AC for a couple of days and hope to learn some tips and techniques from you if that's OK.

[NewImage]

This is VERY do able. Cebu City has everything from sleazy bars on Mango Ave to high end discos and clubs where you can try your Game / luck. It also has what I consider the best online action in all of PI.
Some OKish beaches around town and some very nice places within a couple hours day trip or overnighter. BYO is easiest but again, many are there online. You just need to have a look. Alona, Malapascua, Moalboal are all very nice and girls would jump at the chance of going there for a day or two.
Enjoy. G.

Yes have been looking at this option and it is getting more appealing. Apparently Nalusuan Island has great snorkeling too and an abundance of fish.

NI.

[NewImage]

RK, I'm interested why you used a charter banca vs flying. Last time I was there (admittedly a few years ago now) the Juan Air flight was faster and cheaper than one person hiring a car / charter banca.
If the direct to your door charter bancas have been stopped too, the plane would seem to the the most stress free way to go.
Cheers. G.

The seaplane often cancels flights and is really unreliable re scheduling. Also when I looked at the cost it was way too much compared to getting a fastcraft over.

[Goferring]

Not true ED. Please don't give incorrect information.

The embargo started on July 1.

I was there a few weeks ago in mid-June. Picked up by a pre-ordered banca on a beach in Batangas and straight across to El Galleon pontoon.

Many bancas were still plying the route. It's stopped now though although some resort owners are getting together to buy their own larger fast ferries. Expect them on the water in a few months.

RK, I'm interested why you used a charter banca vs flying. Last time I was there (admittedly a few years ago now) the Juan Air flight was faster and cheaper than one person hiring a car / charter banca.

If the direct to your door charter bancas have been stopped too, the plane would seem to the the most stress free way to go.

Cheers. G.

[Engine Driver]

Not true ED. Please don't give incorrect information.

The embargo started on July 1.

I was there a few weeks ago in mid-June. Picked up by a pre-ordered banca on a beach in Batangas and straight across to El Galleon pontoon.

Many bancas were still plying the route. It's stopped now though although some resort owners are getting together to buy their own larger fast ferries. Expect them on the water in a few months.

Hold your horses RK. We might be talking about different things here. I was talking about the large commercial operations which normal tourists go to. Last November 2018, I got to Batangas and was told that the fast ferry was the only option available. The lady at the counter said that Sabang Pier was permanently closed and that the bancas don't operate anymore. Muelle Pier was now the point of disembarkation. Here below is a picture of the ferry MV Golden Raptor at Batangas which I was about to board. There is also a picture of Muelle Pier. I have also attached a picture of Sabang Beach which shows the shit farm under construction (green canopy). This was where Sabang Pier was previously. When I pulled into Muelle Port, there were 3-4 abandoned Father and Son Lines bancas lined up on the shore. These boats used to take tourists.

Here is also a newspaper article link from August 2018 showing the shit farm under construction, so Sabang Pier was closed before that date.

http://www.puertodegalera.com/dpwh-g...-plants-of-pg/

[Bushes]

At least someone has long term and short term memory intact. NI Guy has been all over the boards. But some of the information given has changed. I still like to fly if have the pesos.

You have been planning this trip for a very long time (nearly a year now). I think we are all looking forward to reading the reports LOL.

[Red Kilt]

This has been the case for over a year now. I was there last year and the large ferries were the only option. The little pier at PG doesn't exist as that's where they are building the much needed shit farm. The disused bancas were all lined up on the shore, obviously with no where to go.

Not true ED. Please don't give incorrect information.

The embargo started on July 1.

I was there a few weeks ago in mid-June. Picked up by a pre-ordered banca on a beach in Batangas and straight across to El Galleon pontoon.

Many bancas were still plying the route. It's stopped now though although some resort owners are getting together to buy their own larger fast ferries. Expect them on the water in a few months.

[Goferring]

Don't beat me up but have been thinking about changing to go to Cebu & then around Mactan & close Islands - better option than a Sabang/ Angeles double?

NI

This is VERY do able. Cebu City has everything from sleazy bars on Mango Ave to high end discos and clubs where you can try your Game / luck. It also has what I consider the best online action in all of PI.

Some OKish beaches around town and some very nice places within a couple hours day trip or overnighter. BYO is easiest but again, many are there online. You just need to have a look. Alona, Malapascua, Moalboal are all very nice and girls would jump at the chance of going there for a day or two.

Enjoy. G.

[Mr Enternational]

Have been to Subic but I would prefer a beach where I could swim or snorkel. Like Pattaya prob would only stick my toe into the water at Subic.

Puerto Galera really is not that beach IMHO. I would not say it is as bad as Subic or Pattaya, but it is no Boracay either. It is definitely a great place for scuba diving though.