FKK Artemis - Berlin

[PayForIt]

Hey guys,

I'm going to Germany in a couple of days. I'm going to Berlin first then Frankfurt.

I want to break my FKK virginity. Is Artemis worth it or should I visit the FKK's in Frankfurt?

I broke my FKK virginity in Artemis in 2013 and won't forget it. Remember the girls are older here than most FKKs. It's also the most expensive club on entry and price per session (by 10 e for every 30 minutes). I think a great intro to FKKs would be FKK World in Frankfurt. Lovely club, less hassle, but not as strong a line up as Sharks or Oase where you find much more upselling.

[PayForIt]

I have also thought about this, why men go to FKK when you can get much better service and higher class look girls outside?

I think that men like going to FKK because these clubs sell the harem feeling. Men go there and they like the feeling they can pick from a bunch of pussies walking around them, makes them feel like gods they can pick and fuck any girl they want. With escort girls and as Mr. Ho mentioned you have the risk the girl will not exactly look like the pic, but hey sometimes she looks even better!

That's the point exactly. Couldn't agree more. It's the "I'm Caesar" / harem feel which attracts the men. FKK sex is not cheap. There were moans and grumbles when I tried to price compare and a few guys were most unhappy about a willingness to accept rooms at more than 100/ hour. Truth is, as you say, better service and looks can be found outside, and probably for less when entrance fee is taken into account, but it is the magical feeling of being surrounded by many naked girls, all available for sex, who you can leisurely choose from. For that privilege it is worth the higher price.

[PrincePunt]

Hey guys,

I'm going to Germany in a couple of days. I'm going to Berlin first then Frankfurt.

I want to break my FKK virginity. Is Artemis worth it or should I visit the FKK's in Frankfurt?

[Member #4636]

I understand that guys like cheap sex. But its never going to be cheap in Artemis because of the 80 entry. I don't understand why any guy who just wants a quick 30 minute fuck to satisfy a need would go to an FKK at all. There a far better looking escorts in brothels which charge no entry fee. So even if you got incredibly lucky at Artemis and found a girl who gave great service for 30 minutes for 60, you'the have paid 140 for that 30 minutes due to having paid 80 to enter. Why do that? You can go to some bordellos in Berlin with flat rate 80 entry and you can fuck up to 4 girls for as long as you want. Or if you prefer a really pretty girl, pay an escort who might charge 150 for an hour but is on a higher level than most girls in FKKs..

I have also thought about this, why men go to FKK when you can get much better service and higher class look girls outside?

I think that men like going to FKK because these clubs sell the harem feeling. Men go there and they like the feeling they can pick from a bunch of pussies walking around them, makes them feel like gods they can pick and fuck any girl they want. With escort girls and as Mr. Ho mentioned you have the risk the girl will not exactly look like the pic, but hey sometimes she looks even better!

[Nooky Ninja]

BlueBudgie made nice, balanced, very useful report of Artemis visit this past week, but posted on Berlin thread. Wish he also included names but still shows what is possible (again) if you keep calm. In case he does not copy it over, hope all read it:

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2349106

[Mr Ho]

I understand that guys like cheap sex. But its never going to be cheap in Artemis because of the 80 entry. I don't understand why any guy who just wants a quick 30 minute fuck to satisfy a need would go to an FKK at all. There a far better looking escorts in brothels which charge no entry fee. So even if you got incredibly lucky at Artemis and found a girl who gave great service for 30 minutes for 60, you'the have paid 140 for that 30 minutes due to having paid 80 to enter. Why do that? You can go to some bordellos in Berlin with flat rate 80 entry and you can fuck up to 4 girls for as long as you want. Or if you prefer a really pretty girl, pay an escort who might charge 150 for an hour but is on a higher level than most girls in FKKs.

I think most guys who go to FKKs want more than one quick 30 min session but then I'm a tourist so that's what I do and see. But if it was really all about 30 min sessions and out you wouldn't see the same guy in the club all night.

There is no doubting whatsoever that the average age in this club has gone up. But it was always higher than in NRW and Hessen, always had more silicones and girls with tattoos. I don't see that much has changed at all. Not because I have my eyes closed but because it's like it always was save for two exceptions which are that there were also a lot more younger girls mixed in than there are now and it was easier years ago to get girls going to the room for 60 with all included..

What I like about FKK set up is that you can see the girls you fuck before sex and with escort you rely on agency to choose the girl for you because you cannot tell how she look in photos of escort agencies on their websites etc.

And in FKK, you do see these escort girls working on their low season days. These girls are the best, but upsell can be extreme.

[Danny227]

Hi PayForIt,

Red head Anabel? Does she has long reddish dreadlocks? She is German, tall, skinny, fake tits, around 25 years old?

Anabel is natural, red hair, no deadlocks, nit very skinny as ass is a little extra. Very pretty face. You can't miss her.

[Karat]

The facially very attractive red head Anabel. But wait for it. She was too skinny for me!

Hi PayForIt,

Red head Anabel? Does she has long reddish dreadlocks? She is German, tall, skinny, fake tits, around 25 years old?

[Karat]

This Even girl what else does she look like? Blonde? Brunette? Blue eyes? Brown eyes? Nationality?

Thanks.

Even is tall, skinny, has fake tits with nice big nipples, dark hair. She is Romanian. Around 25 years old.

[Danny227]

I understand that guys like cheap sex. But its never going to be cheap in Artemis because of the 80 entry. I don't understand why any guy who just wants a quick 30 minute fuck to satisfy a need would go to an FKK at all. There a far better looking escorts in brothels which charge no entry fee. So even if you got incredibly lucky at Artemis and found a girl who gave great service for 30 minutes for 60, you'the have paid 140 for that 30 minutes due to having paid 80 to enter. Why do that? You can go to some bordellos in Berlin with flat rate 80 entry and you can fuck up to 4 girls for as long as you want. Or if you prefer a really pretty girl, pay an escort who might charge 150 for an hour but is on a higher level than most girls in FKKs..

Carla should be 34-35 and that is old.

People have preferences and monetary considerations. For example, some people cum quickly and don't need more time and some people can't afford to pay more than 60, but want to enjoy the facility and have a whole day experience. Not all people that go to FKK are placed into the same bucket. They are segmented into many layers. One of the common things across these layers is people can't afford more than 60 or don't want more than 69 euro rooms for various reasons. In this world you are an outlier and that's OK. Also, maybe you don't know the difference: like I said visit NRW and then let us know how you feel. However, as a person with an FKK sample size that is measured every week, Artemis, is down from its glory days. 2009 was amazing. 2012 was great. 2015 the decline started. 2019, for most long time Artemis fans, it is simply sad to see the downward spiral. Again, truly happy you enjoyed. A me people like money domination, I don't judge them. All the best, dear friend.

[Member #4733]

in NRW, where we routinely pay 30 for 30 in many clubs and get good service.

I went to several clubs in NRW, but haven't found this price structure. Could you please tell me which clubs I would have to go to?

[PayForIt]

100 naked girls? Give me a break? In a sane world without any prejudices, we should be allowed to have this at any public beach anywhere in the world. And they'd all be fine doing you publicly for 50 e or less.

Personally I'd rather be fucking on a beach with 0 entry cost than at a closed of FKK.

So would we all. But if you can tell me the name of a beach with 100+ naked women all ready to fuck you there and then for 50 e or less I'll be packing my bag! Until then. I'll continue heading to FKKs!

[PayForIt]

And the most important is that most people like to go for half an hour and get a reasonable value for money: near zero chance to find. Most people don't want to spend 200 in the room. So, for the majority of clients, Artemis is a very difficult environment.

I understand that guys like cheap sex. But its never going to be cheap in Artemis because of the 80 entry. I don't understand why any guy who just wants a quick 30 minute fuck to satisfy a need would go to an FKK at all. There a far better looking escorts in brothels which charge no entry fee. So even if you got incredibly lucky at Artemis and found a girl who gave great service for 30 minutes for 60, you'the have paid 140 for that 30 minutes due to having paid 80 to enter. Why do that? You can go to some bordellos in Berlin with flat rate 80 entry and you can fuck up to 4 girls for as long as you want. Or if you prefer a really pretty girl, pay an escort who might charge 150 for an hour but is on a higher level than most girls in FKKs.

I think most guys who go to FKKs want more than one quick 30 min session but then I'm a tourist so that's what I do and see. But if it was really all about 30 min sessions and out you wouldn't see the same guy in the club all night.

There is no doubting whatsoever that the average age in this club has gone up. But it was always higher than in NRW and Hessen, always had more silicones and girls with tattoos. I don't see that much has changed at all. Not because I have my eyes closed but because it's like it always was save for two exceptions which are that there were also a lot more younger girls mixed in than there are now and it was easier years ago to get girls going to the room for 60 with all included.

The law change in 2017 gave girls an opportunity to upsell. They do it in Artemis but they do it in a lot of other clubs too. And in some (Hamburg / Munich) it has long been the case that BBBJ is an extra you pay for. What is perhaps sad is that 5 years ago you could take a girl to the room for only 30 minutes and expect decent service. Now that is less available but I think that's the case in most clubs. I was in Palace last month and very few girls would even entertain 30 min sessions.

Ultimately you get what you pay for. I don't think FKK sex is cheap when the entry price is included. But as I posted previously. Certainly for tourists. We don't go for cheap sex, we go for the experience of being surrounded by a lot of naked women all available for sex.

I certainly haven't been to Artemis for the last time. I had two great nights there this week with many options. And I am not into old / ugly / fat girls.

[Danny227]

Please stop rationalizing price gouging and sharking. No one cares how much you paid in Vive (whatever that even is), or any other place where SW criminalization has let to desperate mongers willing to pay overinflated prices. The reason why people come to places like Germany, Mexico or Asia is access to reasonably priced providers.

The only reason why Artemis girls are able to get sway with bad service for 30/60 is precisely because of lack of competition and lack of variety of FKKs in Berlin. They would never be able to get away with it in NRW, where we routinely pay 30 for 30 in many clubs and get good service. And that's the reason why I'd never set my foot in this dump of a club.

I must agree with most just refine the dump of a club; the facility is not bad at all and we'll managed. All that has to with girls can be referred to as dump of a club, but yeah, sad reality.

[PinballMachine]

Love that analogy "wheelnut nipples". She has one of the best pair of tits I've ever seen. Only problem is she won't let anyone lick them as she says that they are very sensitive and gives her the goose bumps when anyone tries. The only other girl that I have seen with similar pair of tits was Helli/Kelly of Sharks.

Interesting rating on Even/Evan. Currently the hottest girl for me at Artemis. For optics, I'll probably rate her a 8.5 pushing 9/10. I like the slim gazelle types over the curvaceous porn star type bodies. Service wise she has some restrictions so not totally surprised that you passed on her. Good to hear that she is still around.

Nice report.

Howie.

This Even girl what else does she look like? Blonde? Brunette? Blue eyes? Brown eyes? Nationality?

Thanks.