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**PedroMorales** · 07-29-19 07:38

Originally Posted by WestCoast1 [View Original Post]

In that vein, many westerners don't view the transaction Dating...To ME (and me), its a transaction. ).

I have never had many Western women refer to me or other dates as clients or customers, or say how many clients / customers they had before me that day. Could that be a clue that the go go girls of Pampanga are actually prostitutes?

**WestCoast1** · 07-29-19 03:11

Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]

After all these years and plenty of posts about guys getting screwed over, why are you guys still not asking about barfine BEFORE wasting your time and money buying chicks damn drinks? Shit is beyond me.

The reason it should not be beyond you lies here: Culture. When we travel to other cultures, and see that other people do things differently than we do, sometimes we think their (new to me) system is crazy. However, its possible that they also think my system is crazy. As an example, look at going to the restroom. Asians might believe in the water-cleaning method down there, while westerners might believe in the toilet paper method (push-and-smush). Tipping is another example.

In that vein, many westerners don't view the transaction (especially gogo bar girls) as a transaction. They view it as a date, and that includes the interviewing process. Dating involves getting to know someone. Bar owners understand that psychology (the same way the car dealerships train salespersons to treat male and female buyers differently (selling a car to a man, you talk specs; selling a car to a lady, you talk safety features). I have spoken directly to men about this sitting at Kokomo's. To them, its clearly dating. They say the damdest things to indicate this. "Last night my barfine didn't want to BJ when we got to the room". I see, did you mention your need for BJ in the bar? "Hell no. When I date a girl I want a girl that loves to BJ". Did you say date? "I want a girl that will WANT to suck my dick. I don't want to have to talk about that stuff first". Whoa! His ignorance (in thinking he's dating, while she is thinking its a transaction) is showing, and his culture is showing.

To ME (and me), its a transaction. "You can't fence time". Not sure who said that, but its a good analogy for culture. You've noticed its difficult trying to change a pinay's ways. Getting her to be somewhere on time, for example, might be a chore even after you've known her for a decade. Another example: I have great trouble in my condo in getting ALL of my regulars to NOT use the counter-top stove to cook food in a pan. Use the microwave please. I even show them how: Put 4 hot dogs on a plate, insert plate into microwave, set timer for 90 seconds, turn on unit. When done cooking, remove and eat. Yet, even after showing that, they will attempt to use a pan, cooking oil, and the stove-top oven. In a condo, that's dangerous. The smoke from the heating oil will set off the smoke alarm. Have had several girls set off the smoke alarm, even after warning them not to use the stove-top oven for any reason. I have since taken to unplugging the stove-top oven or turning it off at the circuit breaker (have had the same girl set off the smoke alarm MORE THAN ONCE by cooking in this manner). The girls grew up with this method of cooking.

Bars have known this foreigner psychology for decades. Just look at the procedure (not developed by customers, developed by bars) that has been in place and working (against customers, ala las vegas style) for a long time: Customer sits, orders a drink, calls for a girl, buys her a drink, asks questions, buys another drink, asks more questions, risks rebuke, maybe barfinesl; if not, start over. This is great for the bar and the girls, its not so good for the customer, who seems to be fine with this procedure.

For Broplex and others who complain that they buy a drink to find out the girl is on her mens (or worse, she mentions it first and THEN he buys a drink), let me help. When you see that hottie you want so bad, ask the mama to bring the hottie to you. But first, mention to the mama several things. You can ask which girls are on their mens. Maybe the mama will tell you (she knows), or maybe she won't know. Tell her you want to chat with THAT girl. "Ask her if she want to chat with me. I can buy her a drink. But I'm not interest to that if she has a blood, or if she is not interested to barfine. If she's not wanting a barfine tonight, let me know". Its quite possible the mama will tell you right away to choose another girl, as the mama knows of the blood, or the mama knows of that you are not of the girl's preference for Koreano (or such).

**Dg8787** · 07-29-19 03:01

Originally Posted by Goferring [View Original Post]

I'd agree that often 10/10 looks and a fun attitude are often mutually exclusive.

Some guys spend a small fortune zeroing in on the stunners. I prefer the 8's who know how to say thanks for picking them over their prettier girlfriends.

Enjoy. G.

I love the performing multi O girls whether 7-8-9 or even 6. 7!

Just had 3 separate thick multi O's 7's. They were thick but solid bodies with perk see cups.

Wonder in miss and beautiful curves in dog. All encompassing cg. They just swallow me up!

Not to worry guys, I topped one night off with an 8.3 spinner right after finishing with multi O thick 7.

**Goferring** · 07-29-19 02:50

Originally Posted by BroComplex [View Original Post]

I thought by acting like the Koreans and go in, barfine and go out I would be able to get the hottest girls that I wanted but I found out the girls are not remotely interested in me YMMV.
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I only barfined two girls on my last trip. I got most of my girls from hiso and online and saved thousands of lady drinks for girls that don't even want to barfine.

I'd agree that often 10/10 looks and a fun attitude are often mutually exclusive.

Some guys spend a small fortune zeroing in on the stunners. I prefer the 8's who know how to say thanks for picking them over their prettier girlfriends.

Enjoy. G.

**Dg8787** · 07-29-19 00:54

Originally Posted by EngineDriver [View Original Post]

I'm flabbergasted! Time for you to go to Plan B. Try WeChat, Tinder, PL, FC. Or go to HiSo and pick up a FL. Or get one of the cute massage girls to do ST. I can't believe westerners are struggling so much to get a root in Angeles. Don't give up. Keep fighting the Korean until he backs down. Where's your fighting spirit old chap? The fuckin' Americans created the bar scene in Angeles and your're just going to surrender? Reclaim what is rightfully yours and then report back.

DG will probably tell you that your mistake was that you weren't lined up early enough. 10.15 am isn't good enough. May be next time line up at 9.30 am?

You can do what the Koreans do, go earlier and reserve in advance.

I really don't understand why would Americans think they are the entitled ones? News flash! This is not America! Mere fact by showing your Social Security card does NOT move you to the front of the line. Money does!

Go and compete limped dick and all.

**Mr Enternational** · 07-29-19 00:22

Originally Posted by BroComplex [View Original Post]

Lately I found most of the better looking girls in Angeles don't want to barfine only the ugly ones do and after I got frustrated with buying tons of lady drinks and getting rejected

After all these years and plenty of posts about guys getting screwed over, why are you guys still not asking about barfine BEFORE wasting your time and money buying chicks damn drinks? Shit is beyond me.

**BroComplex** · 07-28-19 12:46

Originally Posted by Goferring [View Original Post]

Definitely don't buy a hottie a drink after she said she's on the rags then have the waitress bring over another unavailable girl for another drink.

Why can't white guys compete with the Koreans? If all you want are lookers (the performance level of the K focused girls is a while different discussion) it's totally possible to get her number for a later rendezvous or keep a girl for rolling bar fines.

Surely it's no surprise that the prettiest girls in the bar are also the busiest.

Enjoy. G.

Lately I found most of the better looking girls in Angeles don't want to barfine only the ugly ones do and after I got frustrated with buying tons of lady drinks and getting rejected I thought by acting like the Koreans and go in, barfine and go out I would be able to get the hottest girls that I wanted but I found out the girls are not remotely interested in me YMMV. I had better luck in foreigners friendly bars det 5, candy and some of the none Korean bars on fields and I got good at spotting the lesbians and the Korean only girls just by looking at the stage. But to be honest I don't even barfine anymore I only barfined two girls on my last trip. I got most of my girls from hiso and online and saved thousands of lady drinks for girls that don't even want to barfine.

**Goferring** · 07-28-19 11:28

Originally Posted by EngineDriver [View Original Post]

I'm flabbergasted! Time for you to go to Plan B. Try WeChat, Tinder, PL, FC. Or go to HiSo and pick up a FL. Or get one of the cute massage girls to do ST. I can't believe westerners are struggling so much to get a root in Angeles. Don't give up. Keep fighting the Korean until he backs down. Where's your fighting spirit old chap? The fuckin' Americans created the bar scene in Angeles and your're just going to surrender? Reclaim what is rightfully yours and then report back.

DG will probably tell you that your mistake was that you weren't lined up early enough. 10.15 am isn't good enough. May be next time line up at 9.30 am?

Definitely don't buy a hottie a drink after she said she's on the rags then have the waitress bring over another unavailable girl for another drink.

Why can't white guys compete with the Koreans? If all you want are lookers (the performance level of the K focused girls is a while different discussion) it's totally possible to get her number for a later rendezvous or keep a girl for rolling bar fines.

Surely it's no surprise that the prettiest girls in the bar are also the busiest.

Enjoy. G.

**PedroMorales** · 07-28-19 10:51

Originally Posted by BroComplex [View Original Post]

I tried doing that and failed. Korean korean. koreans korean 3 other korean guys the korean manager the korean point the korean customers korean bars korean bar. Korean Korean managers. You can't compete with korean.

I think Koreans might have something to do with it They travel in packs and, like their Japanese big brothers, pay well. They also like to drink. It makes more sense to get a mini army of them in than the odd Westerner or two. All this means is Johnny Whitey gets squeezed out and must saddle up his horse and move on, unless he wants to pay top dollar for Korean left overs. As they say in The Godfather, it's nothing personal, strictly business.

The problem is the Philippines lacks the infrastructure to hit out of the way places for poon and the Koreans are colonizing the bottlenecks. Good post. I feel your pain. We all do.

**Engine Driver** · 07-28-19 10:50

Originally Posted by BroComplex [View Original Post]

I tried doing that and failed. Went to a korean bars in fields at 10:15 and there was already 6 other guys but only two of them were korean.

I'm flabbergasted! Time for you to go to Plan B. Try WeChat, Tinder, PL, FC. Or go to HiSo and pick up a FL. Or get one of the cute massage girls to do ST. I can't believe westerners are struggling so much to get a root in Angeles. Don't give up. Keep fighting the Korean until he backs down. Where's your fighting spirit old chap? The fuckin' Americans created the bar scene in Angeles and your're just going to surrender? Reclaim what is rightfully yours and then report back.

DG will probably tell you that your mistake was that you weren't lined up early enough. 10.15 am isn't good enough. May be next time line up at 9.30 am?

**BroComplex** · 07-28-19 10:33

Originally Posted by EngineDriver [View Original Post]

Well, it seems like you have to be lined up at the door at 10.00 am nowadays. I don't know if any pussy is worth that much effort.

I tried doing that and failed. Went to a korean bars in fields at 10:15 and there was already 6 other guys but only two of them were Korean. I ordered a drink and before my drink arrive I asked a waitress to bring me the hottest girl in there. Believe me she was worth a barfine and I rarely say that. As soon as she sat down she told me she is on her period. After she finished her drink three waitress kept asking me to choose another girl so I picked the second hottest one in the bar. Easily worth a barfine too. As soon as she sat down she told me she is waiting for a customer. I talked to her for a while and she told me guys reserve the girls days before I asked her koreans she said yes and she went back to the stage after her drink. The waitress then jumped in again and started suggesting the least attractive girls to me. I felt slightly offended to be honest and decided to try another bar. I went to another korean bar and there was 3 other Korean guys. As soon as I sat down the korean manager came over to greet me and assigned a waitress to me. There was only 6 girls on stage, they looked okay for an afternoon but I wanted the hot girls the Korean point and click and the girls seemed more focused on the korean customers. I was impressed with the manager he kept making sure the girls are alive and the customers are tended to. I finished my drink but the waitress wasn't around he came over and asked me if I wanted another drink, I said no, paid my bill and went home empty handed. Tbh I'm impressed with the daytime Korean bars quality more than night time bars.

Tl; dr:

There are some good looking girls in Korean bar.

Korean guys reserve girls for days.

Korean managers run a tight ship.

You can't compete with korean.

**Dg8787** · 07-27-19 08:11

Originally Posted by Dg8787 [View Original Post]

A girl told me a few other businesses were closed too for operating without a permit. One new bar she was working at got closed last night along with Phillies. Of course I took her in for the night!

She assured me it was not a raid.

Phillies is back open today. They must have paid the licensing inspectors. Nice to know City Hall will do business during off hours!

**Dg8787** · 07-27-19 02:50

Originally Posted by Dg8787 [View Original Post]

Closed because the owner did not have all the city business permits. Suppose to be back open in a week with the permits is what I heard.

A girl told me a few other businesses were closed too for operating without a permit. One new bar she was working at got closed last night along with Phillies. Of course I took her in for the night!

She assured me it was not a raid.