North China - Beijing

[ChaosCozzz]

Hidden Dragon is still operating fully in Beijing, and is definitely my favorite place to go. The best thing to do is go to their website www.hiddendragonbeijing.com and it has the new phone number and location on there. I love this place, it is the most homely feel and best set up of all the massage stops in Beijing. It has reasonable prices and very sexy women. My favorite girl is Sherry, she has an amazing body, and a nice personality. Its very comfortable with her and she knows how to give you a great massage! As other people have stated the owner is extremely helpful and makes you feel welcome. She also is a young beautiful women which is nice in comparison to other places in Asia where you have some creepy older person who makes you feel shitty about yourself. Highly recommend this massage parlor, can't wait to go back to Beijing next weekend for some fun!

[Lioil]

I will be visiting for vacation for 2 weeks in Beijing and am curious what options I have available as a native speaker? I understand the bars and massage parlors but any "Chinese heavy" sites where the selection is bigger? I forget the site but I thought there was a Chinese language site where there are more advertisements?

Also, should I stay at 5 * hotel or any good suggestions for hotels in Beijing to stay at and still be close to some action (while not prone to be busted by LE). Thanks!

[Zozzimus5]

Wow. OK that was unique and creative. Ice cubes. Something that seemed to be nuru gel. Learned that I'm a fan of edging. My upper body went kinda numb. It's pricey though - 1500 roses for 2 hours.

I speak fluent Mandarin so I can't comment on the English-only experience. I can say that the directions on their website is bollocks. It is NOT just outside the subway station like they claim. The address is correct though. Ignore their walking directions and find the address on your maps app. To use the elevator, there's a device on the wall, to your right and slightly behind when you are facing the elevators. There's a plastic red card attached to it with a string. Swipe it and you'll be able to go upstairs.

Ask for #6. Beautiful girl, but mainly her technique is out of this world.

[Irage86]

I will travel to Beijing next month and have been reading a lot to avoid rookie mistakes.

Why pay 2000 rmb for a st at Maggie's?

I found escorts offering 800 - 1000 rmb for one hour and from the discussion here these seem real.

Even if those girls are then 'next door' quality it seems a better deal than going to Maggie's.

What is the cheapest way to get FS in Beijing without taking large risks?

I would recommend Angel. Good customer service and pricing. It's been posted but be wary of the language you use on WeChat, timing of the day since hotels will most likely require the guest to "sign-in", and choose your accommodation wisely.

If you speak Chinese then that changes all of your options.

[Irage86]

Have been Beijing for several days since long time before.

Tried Maggie for my first time. Can't got a normal taxi or Didi taxi in the central area of Beijing for 40 minutes from 22:40. Never happened in my life anywhere in the world. So arrived late about 23:40. Full of Mongolian ladies and customers. Most of the girls seemed in their late 20's. There are 2 or 3 very hot girl but always busy by some fat and ugly guys who invited bottle of whisky but seems with stupid talking.

Finally found a really sweet, cute, east Asian face Mongolian girl and drink, chat with her long time. She is 29 years old, speak very good English. She just came Beijing for 3 days, will only stay for 1 week. She seems really like me and so do I. She got drunk finally and we came to hotel for the whole night with a good price. She was very sweet and horny in bed like a SEA lady.

May visited Maggie again, very western style club without hassle.

But so expensive, with 2000 RMB only for short time. With this price you can find any type of stunner in FKK for "short time" and got better "professional style" service.

Asia is expensive for sure now.

Thanks for the info. Do you speak Chinese? If not, how did you speak with the taxi drivers? Last time I was there, I had given up on taxis except when going back to the hotel. Can you define what a "good price" for all night was in your books?

Cheers.

[Shining]

I will travel to Beijing next month and have been reading a lot to avoid rookie mistakes.

Why pay 2000 rmb for a st at Maggie's?

I found escorts offering 800 - 1000 rmb for one hour and from the discussion here these seem real.

Even if those girls are then 'next door' quality it seems a better deal than going to Maggie's.

What is the cheapest way to get FS in Beijing without taking large risks?

[Shining]

I will visit Beijing next month, staying at a five star hotel in the Jinangtaixiang area.

2000 rmb for an independent WG st.

[Member #4707]

Have been Beijing for several days since long time before.

Tried Maggie for my first time. Can't got a normal taxi or Didi taxi in the central area of Beijing for 40 minutes from 22:40. Never happened in my life anywhere in the world. So arrived late about 23:40. Full of Mongolian ladies and customers. Most of the girls seemed in their late 20's. There are 2 or 3 very hot girl but always busy by some fat and ugly guys who invited bottle of whisky but seems with stupid talking.

Finally found a really sweet, cute, east Asian face Mongolian girl and drink, chat with her long time. She is 29 years old, speak very good English. She just came Beijing for 3 days, will only stay for 1 week. She seems really like me and so do I. She got drunk finally and we came to hotel for the whole night with a good price. She was very sweet and horny in bed like a SEA lady.

May visited Maggie again, very western style club without hassle.

But so expensive, with 2000 RMB only for short time. With this price you can find any type of stunner in FKK for "short time" and got better "professional style" service.

Asia is expensive for sure now.

[ComteMosca]

Thanks for all your feedback.

So I called Park Hyatt.

You are definitively smarter than myself! This was the most obvious to do but I didn't think about it at all.

One of my friends -working at Park Hyatt- confirmed me that Xiu is fully in operation, but not so lively anymore as ComteMosca might know it.
He told me that pickup at Xiu still works, but it could be tricky to bring girls into the hotel without registering.

I will take my chance. 3 years ago, I didn't had any issues at all when bringing girls in my room.

Anyhow I will let you know. I will be here in approximately 2 weeks.

[Whomer]

Hi,

Does anyone know if the Xiu bar is still existing, and is still an active place? I found some contradictory information on this on the web.
I have very good memories of the Xiu bar when I was in Beijing in 2016, where I met 2 wonderful mongolian girls. As I am coming back to Beijing this summer, I am wondering if I could repeat such an experience, and this will definitively drive my hotel selection.
Thanks in advance.

Xiu update. One of my Mongol contacts said closed another said open. So I called Park Hyatt. Yes it is operating 8 pm to 2 am 7 nts a week. Go forth and have fun.

Xiu is open.

As ComteMosca I'm also coming back to Beijing for a few days in August and wanted to know if it is open.

One of my friends -working at Park Hyatt- confirmed me that Xiu is fully in operation, but not so lively anymore as ComteMosca might know it.

He told me that pickup at Xiu still works, but it could be tricky to bring girls into the hotel without registering.

[Bad Boy Billy]

Xiu update. One of my Mongol contacts said closed another said open. So I called Park Hyatt. Yes it is operating 8 pm to 2 am 7 nts a week. Go forth and have fun.

[Bad Boy Billy]

Hi,Does anyone know if the Xiu bar is still existing, and is still an active place? I found some contradictory information on this on the web.

I cannot answer directly. I too found it closed last 2 visits but I think it is open. I will check with some Mongolian girls and inform status. Intransit? Any intel?

[ComteMosca]

Hi,

Does anyone know if the Xiu bar is still existing, and is still an active place? I found some contradictory information on this on the web.

I have very good memories of the Xiu bar when I was in Beijing in 2016, where I met 2 wonderful mongolian girls. As I am coming back to Beijing this summer, I am wondering if I could repeat such an experience, and this will definitively drive my hotel selection.

Thanks in advance.

[Intransit]

https://www.vice.com/en_in/article/v...-brothel-clubs

Inside Beijing's Illegal Karaoke Sex Clubs.

Photographer Valya Lee spent two months working undercover and taking photos on her phone.

By Lucy Andrews.

Like many things in China, sex work is illegal but continues to flourish behind closed doors. In many cases, escort agencies masquerade as karaoke bars, which are known as karaoke television bars, or "KTV bars" for short.

Many of these KTV bars are exactly what they claim to be—places to get drunk and sing karaoke—but a large number also allow their clients to proposition employees. For this reason police treat all venues with scepticism, and KTV bars regularly get raided. Proving that a place is actually facilitating sex work is difficult, though, so police often settle for fining managers who illegally employ foreign women—as many places do.

For two months, one such woman was Russian freelance photographer Valya Lee, who worked as a "party girl" at several Beijing clubs. She captured her experience on a camera phone to illuminate an industry the government claims doesn't exist.

We spoke to Valya about what she saw during her two-month tenure in Beijing, and what she learned about sex work in modern China.

VICE: Hey Valya, can you tell me a bit about yourself and how this project came about?

Valya Lee: Sure. Well, as you know my name is Valya Lee. I'm 25-years-old and I'm a freelance photographer based in Russia. I was born close to the Chinese border so I've studied Chinese language and culture for several years, and I guess that's why I'm interested in projects that examine relations between Russia and China.

And to capture this series you got a job in a KTV bar?

That's right. The girls are called "hostesses" or "party girls," although the direct translation from Chinese is "a girl who provides entertainment in the company of alcohol". Most employees are Chinese, but a lot of girls also come from Russia or Ukraine and their main task is to get a client drunk and ensure they have a good time. No one except my friends knew I was shooting photos inside the clubs. Often managers would confiscate my phone before a shift so later I began carrying two phones: one for my manager to take, and one for me to take photos on.

This sounds pretty dicey. Did anyone ever see your camera?

No one ever saw me taking pictures. Phones are so commonplace that they've become completely invisible, but obviously working in a KTV bar came with its own dangers.

What was the scariest thing that happened while you worked undercover?

Probably the scariest thing happened on one of my last days. This client who was known by everyone at the club suggested I spend the night with him, but I refused. I didn't think refusing would be a big deal, but my manager really tried to persuade me. "This is a very powerful man, a big boss," he told me. Then he started threatening me, saying "you're not legal here and I can hand you over to the police if you don't cooperate. " I was scared but I knew it was a bluff. When he told me he would call the police I said: "well, let's make that call together. " At that point he backed off but I decided it was time to finish the project.

I'm guessing guys tried to sleep with you a lot, given you were pretending to be a "party girl. " How did you deal with this?

Yeah, the first time I was propositioned really stressed me out because the room I was in wasn't "okay," which is what we called the safe room. But then the proposals became more frequent and I either just ignored them or told people that I refused.

How did the club work? Can you walk us through an average night?

It all starts in the casting room where the girls wait to be chosen by a man. The more expensive the KTV is, the higher the requirements for the standards of beauty: the girls have to be tall and they need to look like models. I even worked in one club where the girls were chosen for their vocal abilities. In these rooms, men point fingers at women or they tell the madam—known as "Mami"—which girl they like. This is also when some customers inform Mami they need sexual services. In this case, before leading girls to such men, Mami usually asks the girls "are you okay?" If they nod the deal is done.

Then what happens?

Then you just hang out with your client. After some time working in the clubs, I developed a standard set of conversation topics and always kept my clients' glasses topped up. Clients usually wanted girls to drink a lot but we quietly spilled our drinks onto the floor. The clients would then sing, either alone or with me. When they found out that I was Russian they always wanted to sing songs like Katyusha, Moscow Nights, or something from Vita's repertoire.

Were all the girls in your club okay with having paid sex with clients?

I saw a lot of Chinese women afraid of losing their jobs, so they tried to fulfil all of their clients' requests. Foreign women such as myself didn't have so much pressure though, especially as we knew that half of everything we'the earn would be taken by Mami due to the risk of clients handing over foreign girls to the police as a way to avoid paying. All the girls knew this was a risk so I personally never met any foreign woman who'the slept with a client.

So given that sex work is illegal, how do these bars operate?

All of them have a good security system, so if the police arrive, they know in advance. But still, I had to hide in the locker room or in the parking lot several times. If you're suspected to be a foreign sex worker, you are likely to face deportation and pay a large fine.

What did you learn about corruption while you were there?

I think corruption is the same everywhere: if you have money and power you can do anything, regardless of the law. But having said that, I was always surprised by the way managers kept reiterating that their venues didn't provide sexual services, only to get asked to spend a night with a client by exactly the same people the following night. This happened everywhere.

What were the clients like?

There were all completely different because different KTVs attract different crowds. You can meet highly paid specialists, teachers, and civil servants. Foreigners are very rare—at least while I was working, I never met any.

Tell us about the Chinese girls you worked with. Who were they and where were they from?

There were girls from lots of different provinces. I once met a girl who was about 19 years old, and it was obvious she was uncomfortable working but she'the always get quickly chosen. Then one day she was kicked out of a room after a client saw she had braces on her teeth. She got fired after that incident. Apparently she'the left home for Beijing where she wanted to study acting.

Many girls work in KTV bars because they don't have enough money to pay for their studies or to repay loans. Usually no one tells their relatives where they work. Even if women hate the job, they often can't leave because they become accustomed to the high earnings. Other work just doesn't provide the same income.

In general, what was the main thing you learned from working in KTV bars?

I remember when I used to see Russian girls working as go-go dancers, I'the judge them for not behaving properly. But now, after walking in their shoes, I decided that you really can't judge a book by its cover.

Interview by Lucy Andrews. Photos by Valya Lee.

This article originally appeared on VICE ASIA.

[EnUnna]

Would you mind sharing the dianping listing with us?

Basically it's just the Chinese translation of the first place that David mentioned, the sweet peach one. It often comes up first when selecting the massage category in Dianping. They have at least three locations.