2002-2006 East China - Shanghai

[John Siron]

Tapioca, the KTV was in Hongkou District and it was literally underground and also "underground". On the street level, it doesn't look like anything... just some old run down room (with stairs on the side to go downstairs).

I guess I might as well tell the story in more detail. This KTV was really grungy and dirty looking. I didn't know locals like to have fun like this since I don't hang out with locals that much. I saw a few of the KTV girls in this place (which only had 8 rooms total!) and they weren't too impressive to me (maybe 5-6 scale).

The funny thing was the girls that eventually came to our rooms were higher end looking KTV girls from the KTV's in Hongqiao! Haha. They probably just got off work. One of the girls with us was the mamasan at one of the clubs out there and she brings the girls to party with my friends for FREE on the weekend! Damn! By 3am there were about 6 girls +my girl that came with me, and 4 guys. I think most of them took X and K that night...

[Apac Boy]

JS, I can help take her roomate out for a couple of hours for u. As for the KTV thing, was that in MinHang District by any chance?

Oh, I found a shop in Jingan District that will fuck for 130rmb. The 2 girls in there are fugly but if u need to nut and u only have 130rmb, it is perfect. It is on Yan Ping Lu. From XinZha Lu, it's about 4 blocks and on your right side.

tapioca

[Wicked SH]

Has anybody checked out a KTV / Disco called UFO on Siping lu near Da Lian Lu? I was by the other day at 1 am and it looks like good mongering grounds. Unfortunately being a laowai I try to get a chinese friend to check the place out before I go in, and all my friends have been busy lately. They had some nice little hotties standing outside. Big Breasts tight bodies. It is in the Hong Kou area so it might be more reasonable. Actually the entire Yang Pu / Hong Kou area is great mongering grounds. They don't get many laowai's up here.

If any of you want to go check it out PM me and we can meet, I take you there and see what happens.

Wicked In Shanghai

[John Siron]

Another freebie... kind of. ;-)

50RMB - Starbucks
300RMB - Japanese Dinner
90RMB - Taxi Ride (she dropped me off on the way to her home and I gave her 90RMB... but I think it would have ended up being 60-70)

If you split Starbucks and Dinner then I only actually paid her: 25+150+90=265RMB.

So what happened? Called up a local friend and he was busy for dinner but told me he could call me later to go party. I then called this sauna girl I met several months ago to see if she remembered me. This was one of the Sichuan girls I mentioned before somewhere on WSG. This sauna girl is actually a KTV girl that was moonlighting for a week when I met her cause she needed some quick cash for her mom's hospital bill.

We went to Starbucks and sat for a few hours getting to know each other better. I guess you could call it a GFE. She mainly likes Chinese food which is cheaper for my pocket but there was a Japanese restaurant nearby and I haven't had it in awhile, so we went or Japanese buffet (unlimited drinks).

After dinner, my friend met us and took us to some UNDERGROUND local Shanghainese KTV bar. This is the first time I've been to something like this and this girl wasn't too impressed since she's a Hongqiao highend model looking KTV girl. Anyway, my friend was kind of like a local gangster at some point in his life when he was young so he basically got everything for free at this place we were at. Including free X and K (which is why they go there). The place is a front for KTV but after 1am, they shut the place down for their good customers... They literally lock the doors. The KTV owner is an ex-chief of the local police department so it is really that safe.

So my sauna/ktv girl takes some X. I'm a drug free guy so I don't take anything. She starts getting really turned on listening to the music while shaking her head like crazy... We wanted to go to her apartment to screw but she has a roomate and she only has one bedroom so that was out of the question for her. I can't bring her to my place cause I have a roomate that is good friends with my girlfriend.

Anyway, it's dark so I start fingering her under her skirt. We talked dirty quite a bit thoughout the night so I knew she was ready, but the problem was she didn't want to do it in a nasty place like this in a private room. I kept fingering her until I popped the question, "Would you like to get eaten out (DATY) in the private room next door?". I'm really into DATY so I don't mind giving and not receiving. She takes some K and then we go to another private room. I did DATY for a good 15 minutes while she was high on X and K.

She insisted throughout the night that I go over to her apartment to screw her brains out tomorrow when her roomate is gone. (She knows I have a LT girlfriend so she also told me we can be "fuckbuddies" free of charge). I'm finally home at 6am now... and need to perform really well in approximately 8 hours. I told her that I want to have lunch with her and she replies, "You mean you'll be eating me for lunch"... Damn I like this girl already! I think this is turning out to be a good freebie!

[Be Cool]

Went to Xin Huai Hai Yu Le Cheng on Fuxing Lu. It was mentioned several times on the forum and as I had great time in Macau, I decided to check it out. I have a thing for these kind of places as sometimes it is difficult to get the same kind of service/action from one's girlfriends or freebies.

To keep it short, I would give the place a rating of 6. If you have experienced the fun in Macau, I would not recommend visiting here as you will be disappointed. If it is your first time, a good way to see if you like this kind of service.

Cons

1. Although unlike Macau, where you can choose girls that lines up in front of you(if you want more details, pm me), you don't get to choose the girl, although when I talked to the owner, he said if I don't like the girl, I can always ask for another.

2. In places in Macau, girls use oil when doing the 'body massage', ie rubbing their bodies on you. Here they just rub bare skin, which was okay, but the girl did not do it hard enough, which you can if one uses oil.

3. The service although great, was sorta rushed. Usually the time alloted is more or less an hour in other places, but here the girl told me that the norm is 30 minutes.

4. There are some bullshit addons for foreigners like 50 yuan for the locker guy, which I am pretty sure locals don't pay. I don't mind paying but didn't like the attitude that it was a given fact.

5. Waiting area and the shower area really sucks. One of the reason I like these kind of places is that I can relax or take a bath but it was too dirty and too old for that.

Pros

1. The quality of girls are pretty high. The girl I had(I think it was 105 but not sure) had big breast and a great figure, although her face was not my type. Other girls I have seen walking along the hall way looked pretty nice too, 8tish. As a reference, I put more emphasis on body than face.

2. Cost was not too bad. 500(Service)+ 50(Tip for girl) + 48(Bath, which is bs)+ 50(tip for the locker guy, which is also bs) total: 648 yuan.

3. Pretty near to the city center. Walking distance to Madanglu and Xintiandi.

Hi,

This is just a suggestion, so please don't take it the wrong way.

I appreciate the details in your report, but I know from experience that a lot of people find it easier to read a report if the paragraphs are separated by a single blank line.

I know how this happens: You're banging away at the keyboard, putting your thoughts into the report as fast as you can write them. However, if you could hit the return key TWICE at the end of each paragraph, your report would be much easier to read, which would certainly be appreciated by your fellow Forum Members.

Thanks,

Jackson

[Angel Abazdo]

Hi guys,

Been to the BJ bar called ZY PUB near the corner of XinZhaLu and JiaoZhou Lu around midnight. See the namecard and map attached to get exact direction and phone number, if you wish to check before if it is open.

The principle is quite simple. It looks like a legit pub, you sit and ask for a beer, a girl comes to you and offer you the apparently single service provided : follow her to a small cubicle behind the main room of the bar, and have a BJ while you drink your pint.

Not so many hostesses available (6 when I came in), varying a lot in sex-appeal... Two of them were still attractive, and I went for a cute short-haired hottie, quite petite but with a very nice body.

She took me to this cubicle, where we sat on a couch, and she started to "massage" me, open my shirt, lick my torso and open my belt and jeans. She was definitely going for a BBBJ, but I asked for a CBJ (don't flame me guys, I feel more comfortable like this!) and which was just excellent. She got undressed very easily, and I could play with whatever I wanted. No FS proposed, but I didn't ask neither, not wanting too. Not really rushed service, but the BJ lasted for about 15-20mn.

Then she removed the condom, wiped me and that was it.

Overall interesting experience, less funny than in Bangkok but still quite OK. Girl's name was Peggy, if you fancy it.

Pretty girl, not bad service, cleanliness just OK (well, it is not a 5-star but could have been worse).

Total damage : 350RMB, which is definitely expensive. It was late and I was not in a bargaining mood, so I guess it may be cut by half with decent chinese speaking and will to do so.

[Cat Scratch]

I have just returned from Shanghai and whilst not a regular visitor I have had some fun in the past.

As reported Mao Ming Lu was dead, but it was Monday so that may be the reason. In the past I had some real luck in Julu Lu. There was no problem with the hotel security as I staggered in with a girl from a bar at 6.30am (just in time to see my boss coming in for a business meeting). Enjoyed the session so much that I stayed for the weekend. Talk about GFE and the damage was USD200 for the three nights (plus meals, drinks etc) but I relieved the ESB (excesssive sperm build up) and had a live-in tour guide for the weekend.

Anyway back to the report. I stayed in the Equatorial in Yunan Road West. On Tuesday went to the Blue Moon Lounge on the 4th floor. No customers but about 8-10 girls. Talk to mamasan who would arrange for your choice to sit with you all night for RMB200! (take out was on a one to one negotiation basis). seemed a bit too commercial and the girls only rating in the 5 -6 range so got pissed with my mates and chatted up the Philippino singer.

[G Jetson]

Secret Hunter

The girls in the Huang Pi Nan Lu BJ Factory all wipe down your fingers in preparation for fingering. And usually it's assumed she'll get fingered. My friend was able to finger her, but only got into his first knuckle before she started complaining. I saw his hands and they are normal sized.

Jman90024

See my previous post. Apparently you can take them out for ST (2 hours) for 300RMB. You just have to go there to take them out. I'm sure after a couple of times, you can probably just call and have them send a girl over. I'll try take out next time and make a posting on my experiences.

AsianMan

Apparently the Madang Lu FS factory you can get take out, but my laowai friend wants a girl from the Huang Pi Nan Lu BJ factory for takeout.

G Jetson

[G Jetson]

Last night after a date that didn't go as planned (She wouldn't put out). I said screw this and headed to Huang Pi Nan Lu station intending on either going to the Madang Lu FS factory or the Huang Pi Nan Lu BJ Factory (Explicit directions posted by myself in the past).

It was around 10pm and I was a little tired from walking around the entire city with my date. So I headed for the closest one (by a block) which was the Madang Lu Factory. I walked in and saw the cute short provider I had before and asked her to come along. She led me to the back and we started chatting up.

I apologized and asked her name and where she was again. She said she was from Hubei, was 22 and named Xiao Chian (not sure of the pinyin). She remembered me from my previous visit (I'm a big Chinese guy and hard to forget) She also remembered I tried to visit a week ago with my laowai friend. She admonished me for trying that and told me that they have a absolute no laowai policy. She said some of the girls are wary about having sex with foreigners because of their larger sized package. But I think it's because if Chinese customers see Westerners leaving the factory, they won't come back again. I asked about the past and she said she wasn't sure, but now the policy is firm. She said as long as they looked Asian (Japanese, Korean, Thai, etc...) they would be accepted. I said oh well and had her continue with the physical tasks at hand.

After we were done (I got a nice compliment on my endurance. Nice of her to blow smoke up my ass like that), I asked if she'd come to my home next time. She said sure, but said I had to come to the shop to take her out. I said how much and how long. She said it's 300RMB for 2 hours. I think that could be talked down. I asked what about 2 girls and noting what would happen if I had a laowai friend waiting at home. She said that might work but would depend on wether the girl was receptive. She said as long as the management didn't know, it'd might be all right.

I got cleaned up and walked back to the front and chatted with the male laoban. He once again stated that they really couldn't accept laowais here. I said I understood and next time won't bring one next time. I asked if he had a card. He said no, but offered to give me his cell phone number.

I guess next time I'll try taking a girl back to my apartment. I wonder if I'll have to give her extra money for taxi? It'd be nice if I could get her for less than 300RMB ST. I'll try chatting the girls up more at home and treating them like a girlfriend and perhaps get their cell phone number and get some freebie action. I need to ask about overnight action too.

Any laowais getting action at this madang factory let us know so my information can be refuted. I know Blankie used to get action here but I wonder if he still does. Or perhaps he's such a long time customer, he gets a pass.

[BJ Boy]

So who was the fairly large lao wai going to the madang factory tonight (Thursday) around 11pm? I was outside and saw you go in and a few minutes later came out and went in to the place just next door. That place seemed to have visible from the street about 8 or 9 normally dressed chicks. Is that connected to the factory or separate? I did not try as I needed to be somewhere else soon after.

[Apac Boy]

From what I heard about maoming, some aussie od'd on some drugs. They will prob blame it on E or somethin'...but who really knows with this govt controlled media they have here.

Getting freebies is about attitude and not about how u dress. I'm going out to pegasus tonight wearing my baggy jeans and my blue Addidas hockey jersey..if u see me, come up and yell "WSG!!!"

tapioca

[Wicked SH]

Stay clear of Nanjing pedestrian area. They like to rip off the laowei's. I got hit by that scam when I first came to shanghai. Definetly stay away from Palemino bar. You look at a menu order a few drinks, then the bill comes you get a serious surprise and everything is charged by the oz. You ask for the menu and now it shows everything by the oz.

You can't do any mongering on Nanjing. It is a waste of time. Xin Tian Di, and Mao Ming are still pretty good. Park 97 works also.

Freebies are easy. Basically it doesn't matter what kind of clothes you are wearing as long as they are clean and so are you. Actually I guess I should say fashionable western clothes are all ok. Don't think you can wear stripes and pokadots and meet anybody. Also don't look gay. I don't think anyone on this site will have much trouble with those rules.

You will be walking somewhere and here a soft or not so loud hello. Look for who it came from and say hello back. Most of the time they don't speak english other than hello, but if you start chatting in chinese it will surprise the blank out of them. Then you do the normal things get their number ask them what they are doing, see if they have time that day. See if they can go have dinner, then invite them home.

If you see a pretty face you like try to introduce yourself. Don't be surprised if they don't respond. It isn't chinese custom to be so direct. Some do respond though. Although my experience has been if you can't get their number don't waste your time giving them yours. I have handed it out a number of times and nobody ever called me back. Culture again.

Then if you are mongering at BBS, Massage, KTV, and other places keep chatting with the same girl, treat her nice, and give her a little extra tip. She will start to feel like you care about her if you visit at least once a week. She will take good care of you and start giving you the GFE. Pretty soon she will be happy to come by and hang with you. Don't stop going to her business though because I have stopped with a few and within a few weeks they stop.

Another benefit of treating one girl nice is that the other girls will like you better when she isn't available, or has left.

[Gweilo]

I'm spending a lot of time in Shanghai now and will be essentially living here from July through the end of the year. One question and some comments based on various posts I've read.

My question is this: for those of you who are getting freebies, especially one night stands, when you go out for these, are you very dressed up, business casual, jeans/t-shirts? I tend towards jeans and sneakers and a friend has commented that I don't score too often because the women are looking for money and I don't "dress the part."

Re: Mao Ming Nan Lu. Everyone seems to have a different story about what happened there to spark the current crackdown. I heard it was an Italian guy beat to death in the street by locals after drunkenly following some girl from bar to bar. And a while back the South China Morning Post had reported on noise complaints from local residents. Whatever the reason, I've now read in more than one place that many of the Mao Ming bars are going to close shop very soon and move over to Tong Gren Lu.

My last visit to Mao Ming Manhattan, there was one good looking girl standing around, but she wanted Y1500 for short time and was not willing to negotiate. I finally went with someone much less cuter who at least was very happy with Y1000 for all night. Service was the same. Have since seen Miss Y1500 almost every night at Malones. She usually leaves around midnight empty handed (probably going over to Mao Ming).

Re: HRC. Still closed, boarded up, and no idea what will go in there when the boards come down. Have been hanging out at Malone's a lot on Tong Gren Lun, and there are always availlable ladies there, though most are not even close to tens. I suspect a lot of the SWs that went to HRC have moved up to here now.

re: Hotels. Have not had any problems bringing back ladies at any time of day or night at Four Seasons, Westin, JW Marriott, Hua Tin.

re: Here's a scam no one has mentioned yet. Last Saturday afternoon I was walking down Nanjing Lu, the part that's a pedestrian mall flanked by department stores. Two girls came up to me, started a conversation, then suggested we sit and have coffee. They steered me to this small shop where it turns out they charge Y60 for a cup of coffee. The girls let me know that anything was on offer from them, but I didn't much care for either of them (I just wanted to sit and have a drink for a few minutes). I ditched them, kept walking, and every few feet more girls would come up to me. All tried to steer me back to the same coffee shop. I guess the coffee shop is giving the girls kickbacks, though it seems that the girls were offering lots of stuff aside from coffee. Did not bother to get any phone numbers or check any prices as most of them were average looking at best, though one or two had potential.

Well, time to head out into the night.

[Jman90024]

Blank,

Thanks for the suggestion. I did that a lot before. It does work pretty well. Seeing the girl a couple times, exchanging some SMS and a couple phone calls go a long way. This worked not just for pro but girls in legit places as well. Eventually, they will turn into freebies. However, the drawback is to handle the emtion aftermath. This is subjected to a lot of discussion in this forum and I am not going into the subject now.

On the other subject, just found Red Light World. Pretty interesting to see our lives to be made into an online video game! Maybe we can add the Shanghai expansion to it.

[Apac Boy]

actually, I did see one shady one close to the Portman on Nanjing road. It is about 2-3 blocks West of the Portman . It is one of those darkened windows BBS but I dont know how much play u will get in there...

tapioca