Angeles City

[Goferring]

Because the service they have to exert is not the same. Foreigners want to shack up and play house and try to duplicate something they saw on a porno movie. Locals just want to get their rocks off and go about their business.

This works at the other end too. Who wants to disappear into the depths of Tondo to be the sixth of ten buddies inline to root some village hooker on a dirt floor just to say they scored a 100 p pussy?

[MarquisdeSade1]

If you want to accept foreigners should pay 10 times more than a local guy than I think any country who overcharges foreigners for anything should be charged the same in our respective countries. I will be sure to let P4P girl in Canada and the US to charge men from the Philippines 10 times more or on average about $4,000 for a root.

Justifying why the world can treat people from other countries badly and charge more money for anything is far from solving the problems of discrimination and prejudice.

If the money is the same and the service they have to exert is the same then why all the discrimination!

Let's not talk about why it is bad let's show them by leaving. South Korea and China are on a downturn their Golden age is coming to an end. The Chinese government is in such massive debt at the moment one little problem and their whole system is going to come crashing down.

Also where the girls are 100 pesos they probably only make 100 pesos a day even though that is below minimum wage some people are willing to do it in the rural areas. The girl is also willing.

Be strong, be vigilant, and fight for equality! Equal pay for Equal service!

MM.

In case you don't know, Asia doesn't do political correctness, ISG may, but not Asia.

Its about more than money (its much worse), you can go in almost any bar, be a good looking white guy.

Pick out a girl and she will say no, they are being told by the Korean owners and / or other girls.

Don't go with the white guys, the Korean customers will feel inferior and not come back.

You can go to many bars and have this happen over and over, I can tell you the odds of this happening.

If you pick a pretty girl are about 95%, you can pick the bottom rungs, that nobody wants, that's OK.

[CzarNicholas]

Because the service they have to exert is not the same. Foreigners want to shack up and play house and try to duplicate something they saw on a porno movie. Locals just want to get their rocks off and go about their business.

You have posted over 9300 times, this is the 1st time I've seen a post I need to disagree with, I studied AC hard.

The discrimination against any monger in AC not Korean is brutal, I used to box many years ago, I've been programmed to fight.

I told my best friend before I went to AC (a Korean monger) they want to fight over hookers, lets get ready to rumble.

Watch me beat their asses, anyone can beat guys with low self esteem, who's only trick is to pay more than everyone else.

If you can't beat the Koreans in AC you need to hang it up.

I will challenge any Korean to a duel in AC or anywhere else.

Give us the same amount of money and get a girl.

No lady drinks allowed LOL.

Imagine a world were there was a very low salary cap on hookers LOL.

99.9999999% low self esteem mongers would just stay home.

[Mr Enternational]

If the money is the same and the service they have to exert is the same then why all the discrimination!.

Because the service they have to exert is not the same. Foreigners want to shack up and play house and try to duplicate something they saw on a porno movie. Locals just want to get their rocks off and go about their business.

[El Moreno 92]

If you want to accept foreigners should pay 10 times more than a local guy than I think any country who overcharges foreigners for anything should be charged the same in our respective countries. I will be sure to let P4P girl in Canada and the US to charge men from the Philippines 10 times more or on average about $4,000 for a root.

Justifying why the world can treat people from other countries badly and charge more money for anything is far from solving the problems of discrimination and prejudice.

If the money is the same and the service they have to exert is the same then why all the discrimination!

Let's not talk about why it is bad let's show them by leaving. South Korea and China are on a downturn their Golden age is coming to an end. The Chinese government is in such massive debt at the moment one little problem and their whole system is going to come crashing down.

Also where the girls are 100 pesos they probably only make 100 pesos a day even though that is below minimum wage some people are willing to do it in the rural areas. The girl is also willing.

Be strong, be vigilant, and fight for equality! Equal pay for Equal service!

MM.

You for President in 2020, on the platform, "Make Mongering Great Again!

[El Moreno 92]

Hello boys!

Got the information I wanted from a couple of my girls from my last trip. It appears all is about the same again after rumors of AC getting picked on by the New Mayor. As of today I know Phillies is back open, ladies are walking, vendors are pushing boner pills and other goodies, and everything seems to be back to business as usual!! The streets are being kept cleaner which I'm good with. The Police is not bothering nobody trying to have fun and besides during the heavy rain the streets are alive.

That's good news for me! I love AC even more than Pataya because I get all my fantasys to life and for what 60 bucks Plus a performance tip if I'm pleased! In Pataya the language of most girls kills it from the start. AC girls are built for banging and making all my nasty boy dreams come true! I will have a full on the ground report in a few weeks when I get there. I wish I could upload pics but being from CA, USA I cannot buy a membership on ISG. Later.

That is good news! AC here I come (in more ways that one).

[MarquisdeSade1]

Purchasing power parity (PPP) or the Big Mac Index doesn't apply to mongering in AC. The minute you start questioning the cost of a root against the daily wage, you know you should have stayed in Pittsburgh. In the Philippines, there is separate pricing; one for locals and one for foreigners. The average Filipino man only pays 300 peso for a root, not 3,000 peso. He doesn't apply the point and shoot method like foreign mongers do at Atlantis. I'm sure in tiny provincial towns, he could get a root for 100 pesos. So your PPP test should apply to what locals pay. I would think that 100 pesos for a root compared to the 8,000 pesos for the average monthly salary seems about right. Your comparison also doesn't take into account the predatory and disruptive behavior of the young Korean master mongers. We can learn a lot from them, like queuing outside Viking bar at 9.30 in the morning or pre-booking 20 hot chicks in advance. It's all about supply and demand. Without the Koreans, prices would be cheaper, but without the Koreans, most of the bars would have shut by now.

Maybe there would be a few less, maybe not. There were many Anglos pre-1991, yes the base closed, but I posit.

The demand is there, given the opportunity, I feel if there was a level playing field for Anglos, sans the unfair trade practices ala President Xi.

I don't know of a great mongering locale for Anglos in Asia, do you? I don't know of a great mongering locale for primarily Anglos anywhere.

Why is that? I feel Asians dominate mongering the same way many dominate global manufacturing (low quality low ball prices).

With mongering they "flip it" low / zero expectations high prices).

Angeles is clearly a Korean locale, a small country of 50 m, where can a western monger go (there are way more mongers from western countries with populations of over 50 m) and have the advantages Koreans have here, or that Asians have in Bangkok.

I think Asians cheat, High-balling everyone near them (not much different than currency manipulation like China) that's using the nuclear option in a negotiation.

Well I see that do don't feel they compete head to head with anyone, so they go to the nuclear option, every time, Just pay more, when? Every single session in every single country.

Every single time (and give a massive tip). Voila' you have just pulled off a magic trick.

Goferring wrote this.

Knowingly overspending because one can or to be seen as the "big dick" in town attracts a easy mark label real quick. Rather than appreciating the extra cash, others soon line up to extract as much as possible from the gullible whale ASAP.

[Master Monger]

Purchasing power parity (PPP) or the Big Mac Index doesn't apply to mongering in AC. The minute you start questioning the cost of a root against the daily wage, you know you should have stayed in Pittsburgh. In the Philippines, there is separate pricing; one for locals and one for foreigners. The average Filipino man only pays 300 peso for a root, not 3,000 peso. He doesn't apply the point and shoot method like foreign mongers do at Atlantis. I'm sure in tiny provincial towns, he could get a root for 100 pesos. So your PPP test should apply to what locals pay. I would think that 100 pesos for a root compared to the 8,000 pesos for the average monthly salary seems about right. Your comparison also doesn't take into account the predatory and disruptive behavior of the young Korean master mongers. We can learn a lot from them, like queuing outside Viking bar at 9.30 in the morning or pre-booking 20 hot chicks in advance. It's all about supply and demand. Without the Koreans, prices would be cheaper, but without the Koreans, most of the bars would have shut by now.

If you want to accept foreigners should pay 10 times more than a local guy than I think any country who overcharges foreigners for anything should be charged the same in our respective countries. I will be sure to let P4P girl in Canada and the US to charge men from the Philippines 10 times more or on average about $4,000 for a root.

Justifying why the world can treat people from other countries badly and charge more money for anything is far from solving the problems of discrimination and prejudice.

If the money is the same and the service they have to exert is the same then why all the discrimination!

Let's not talk about why it is bad let's show them by leaving. South Korea and China are on a downturn their Golden age is coming to an end. The Chinese government is in such massive debt at the moment one little problem and their whole system is going to come crashing down.

Also where the girls are 100 pesos they probably only make 100 pesos a day even though that is below minimum wage some people are willing to do it in the rural areas. The girl is also willing.

Be strong, be vigilant, and fight for equality! Equal pay for Equal service!

MM.

[Engine Driver]

You left out the third pricing level: the seriously well healed local Pinoy. Most mongers think that they are the big dick in town but a wealthy Pinoy would think nothing of dropping apartment lease, luxury car and major jewelry on his latest fancy.

Sure puts our arguing over 3 k to shame.

Yes, that's true. The veteran politician, police colonel or Chinese-Filipino businessman need to drop their ill-gotten gains somewhere.

[Goferring]

In the Philippines, there is separate pricing; one for locals and one for foreigners. The average Filipino man only pays 300 peso for a root, not 3,000 peso. He doesn't apply the point and shoot method like foreign mongers do at Atlantis.

You left out the third pricing level: the seriously well healed local Pinoy. Most mongers think that they are the big dick in town but a wealthy Pinoy would think nothing of dropping apartment lease, luxury car and major jewelry on his latest fancy.

Sure puts our arguing over 3 k to shame. 😁.

[Goferring]

Speaking of Game, we could get that fucker Monkey Paw (or whatever his name was) to come to AC and teach us how it's done.

Good idea. I enjoyed his posts and the ensuing chaos they caused, even if it was just for the comedic value.

[PedroMorales]

I'm sure in tiny provincial towns, he could get a root for 100 pesos.young Korean master mongers...e queuing outside Viking bar at 9.30 in the morning or pre-booking 20 hot chicks in advance. It's all about supply and demand. Without the Koreans, prices would be cheaper, but without the Koreans, most of the bars would have shut by now.

I admire Koreans who can bang 20 hot chicks, one after the other. Angeles is a tourist hub and you have to pay tourist prices, like you do in any tourist hub. Forget Angeles unless you want to pay the price.

The economics of prostitution is strange and is a fall back for most women who ask for a premium doing a job they don't like. I tour rural areas but they are not mongering destinations. Expect to get your rocks off and no more. No hanging around girlie bars, knocking back SMLs, no talking to other guys, at least until they are touristified, which will be a long time coming as they do not have the convenience tourist hubs have.

[PedroMorales]

I would think that 100 pesos for a root compared to the 8,000 pesos for the average monthly salary seems about right. ... young Korean master mongers.... queuing outside Viking bar at 9.30 in the morning or pre-booking 20 hot chicks in advance. It's all about supply and demand. Without the Koreans, prices would be cheaper, but without the Koreans, most of the bars would have shut by now.

Fair play to those Koreans who can line 20 hot chicks up and bang every one of them. I ma going to be q.

[Engine Driver]

Dear fellow mongers,

I took home one of the two large suitcases I used to keep here in Angeles for the past 7 years on my last trip and I will take the last one home this trip. AC has become too difficult to monger in and if I wanted this difficult I could just go clubbing in regular bars around the world and get girls for free. I think it might be possible to get a girlfriend here but the quality and age of the P4P is downright offensive. Does anyone know of any decent city in the Philippines where a good looking guy can get some pretty girls. Also I do not believe in paying over 3000 php for longtime in any country but especially not in a country with an average income of 12,000 php a month. Most countries P4P is equal to 3-4 days of the annual wage which would 1,500 - 2,000 in the Philippines and 20,000-25,000 php in America and 2,500-3,000 in China. So these prices are a bit silly but I can withstand 3,000 php for a pleasant experience. Any advice is appreciated I am leaning towards Davao although my favorite girls are from Samar and Mindanao.

Thanks in advance!

MM.

Purchasing power parity (PPP) or the Big Mac Index doesn't apply to mongering in AC. The minute you start questioning the cost of a root against the daily wage, you know you should have stayed in Pittsburgh. In the Philippines, there is separate pricing; one for locals and one for foreigners. The average Filipino man only pays 300 peso for a root, not 3,000 peso. He doesn't apply the point and shoot method like foreign mongers do at Atlantis. I'm sure in tiny provincial towns, he could get a root for 100 pesos. So your PPP test should apply to what locals pay. I would think that 100 pesos for a root compared to the 8,000 pesos for the average monthly salary seems about right. Your comparison also doesn't take into account the predatory and disruptive behavior of the young Korean master mongers. We can learn a lot from them, like queuing outside Viking bar at 9.30 in the morning or pre-booking 20 hot chicks in advance. It's all about supply and demand. Without the Koreans, prices would be cheaper, but without the Koreans, most of the bars would have shut by now.

[Master Monger]

When I first got to AC in 2012 I was only paying 500 for short time and 1000 for longtime and never even went into the bars. I still rarely pay 3000 for longtime but I am willing to pay that much for a good experience.

I prefer a fishbowl where you can pick one and take her back to your hotel. Even if it seems all business it is very possible to get any girl to give you GFE with the right touching and kissing.

Just to prove my research abilities although I currently have no good info about girls in AC "unless you want over 25 years old baby mamas who are fat, scarred, smelly, and with missing teeth" and yes there still are some diamonds in the rough but it just isn't worth the time or effort to find them in AC.

Although there is still some good food in AC at places like:

Penthouse Hotel rooftop but usually only their weekly special the menu food is usually only so-so. 300-400 pesos.

Marano Grill at Oasis Hotel which in my opinion for the price is the best quality and tasting food in AC no matter what you get there although they do like to use salt which I like but you may not. You can tell them to add less salt and the serve anything on the menu 24 hours a day! 400-700 peso Steak from Australia is 2000.

Maik's which is the new Herman's after he so mysteriously died of a heart-attack. The food is even better than before. Sorry Herman. 400-700 pesos. Large steak is 1000.

Café Noele in SM Mall is very good and super inexpensive and everything is also pretty good. 200-450 pesos.

Ikabud and Gerry's In SM mall are pretty good for Filipino food although Gerry's is a bit more expensive. Figure 300-700 per person for family style table servings.

RBI's Cheeseburger is very good for 340 pesos in fact it is the best I have had in AC.

Margarita Station *DESSERTS ONLY* although they used to be 80 pesos a piece for pies and cakes and now they are almost 200 pesos each piece. Their Dreamcicle Shake at 120 pesos is good too as it reminds me of a 50's diner.

Paizano's pizza isn't bad for the price although nothing compared to American or Italian pizza. 600-800 for a 16".

Italy Trattoria's pizza is small but pretty good for a gourmet pizza.

450-600 for a 12".

If you are still deadset on going to AC for girls, I recommend walking on walking street from 4 pm to 9 pm and then again from 1 am to 4 am. You can pop into High Society and use the touch an feel method to try and determine whether the girl is acceptable but it is so dark and smoky in there you really might be surprised when she enters the light. The massage girls used to have a few gems but this trip I have even been sadly disappointed by them. You might get lucky, but if you want to work so hard just stay where you are to find girls. There are girls with daddy issues all around the world. Is it possible to find a good and semi-pretty girl in AC? Yes, if you are will to spend 7 hours a day walking and hunting. I used to come here and have 3 gorgeous girls a day with little or no effort so I am fed up now!

Trolls and people trying to get your money: I blocked Dg8787 a long time ago because he is financially invested in AC which makes anything he says totally biased. A lot of places in the Philippines do not have a thread here and do not have info on other websites. I am sure and confident about my mongering skills just give me a good location I don't need help with anything else. I am assuming they want to funnel all the suckers to AC and Manila now. To either go to AC with the unattractive, jollibees babies (fat), who are too lazy to provide good service also recently I have noticed a lot of girls here have messed up teeth or go to Manila where most of the girls are mean, nuts or provide sub par service (IMHO) girl tells me she is from Manila I do a 180. There are a lot of trolls on the internet now who only care about themselves or just like to flame anybody for saying anything so learn to use your ignore and block features. Best advice Jackson ever gave me. Although with the quote feature I am sadly able to read something someone said that I blocked.

Personally I don't see AC recovering and that is sad because I had such glorious memories here. Just like China, the rest of SEA is slowly dying in the P4P market.