German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Ortos]

But what happened to couch action, Ortos? Haha!

Took the words right out of my fcking mouth!

[Sirioja]

On 2014/2015, kino for public sex at World, where shisha now, also in the garden on Summer. Before renovation, used to have public BJ at Oase. Even at Sharks, no more kino, but small rooms no girl never proposed me to go to, I would have refused.

[Sirioja]

Then lucky you because you will never run out of Romanians in German FKK for past 10 years.

However, I begin to appreciate the beauty of Romanian girls too, I never did because it was simply too over supplied and fucked too many Romanians LOL. Romanians are beautiful race and Latino a bit also and we should enjoy them while the trend of Romanian dominated line up last because one day it maybe replaced by other nationalities. I at least hope next line up domination will be Ukrainian girls.

In most corners of world, domination of line up are Asians, black, not beautiful white / Latino girls, so at least in German FKK, we are given beautiful Romanian girls straight out of Romanian towns, aren't we lucky!.

I maybe the most picky, but I find some beauties among Romanians and when I find one, I make to give her will to be good for me. Usually it works not so bad for me. I learned to love long black hair, when I was attracted by blond. I saw the most perfect woman in my life, for her care, Romanian at World. Romanians are more sensual, more woman, than Germans.

[Gino02]

It was in 2006 as reported by Nick and Optimist.

I hope Nick forgives me for quoting his old report, but it really made me smile. Not only because it is a good report, but also because it dates the time of the major Romanian invasion. Which was an important game changer. There were Romanian girls also before 2006, but they were never dominant untill something happened around 2006- 08.

And then we can discuss on and on if it was for good or for bad. Me, for one, has always been intrigued by Romanian beauty. Seeing the right girls their service standards are second to none.

But what happened to couch action, Ortos? Haha!

I started in FKK scene in 2007, though I could have started at least 4-5 years before, but your this finding proves my laziness and procrastination! Man, wish I was there that day! I was still lucky to have some good fun public actions at World on the two fancy open beds they used to have on the upstairs main floor. Also at Atlantis, on that fancy bed they had next to the indoor pool and even on the circular couches next to the bar. Public debauchery was very common back then, in fact many of us used to think why go to an FKK if going to a room for sex, there are RLDs and escorts for people who wants sex in private. I can't even remember going to any room for sex in any FKK until maybe 2014-15 LOL. Even Artemis was similar and great then. Back then if you and your girl wanted to be religious publicly, nobody was going to stop you, though some prudes might have looked angry at you two. My first few Romanian experience was not so good, but then started to improve, probably my change of heart about them helped as well. I still miss Germans Sunny and Marie at Oase, from a few years later. FKKs today are only pale shadows of their glory days decade ago. I understand we have to work with what we have in hand today, but I'm still very nostalgic and happy that I had chances to enjoy the best of FKKs could offer.

[Shark16]

Hi. I reckon the change started about 2005, and as you say by 2008 was well under way, if not almost completed. I remember the day a busload of romanians (probably about 40 girls!!!) turned up at World, changing the club forever. Before that one day the numbers of romanians there were limited.The sudden oversupply of girls led to many girls from other nationalities leaving

So not really related to the recession. More the opening up of a new supply.

As for the optics, everybody will have their own views of course.

It was in 2006 as reported by Nick and Optimist.

Guys, on saturday, you would'nt have trusted your eyes, you've missed a very, very special day at the FKK-WORLD.

Saturday afternoon. Not many men around alltogether, low action. I had a lovely chat with Cordellia and other ladies during my extended breakfast.

All of a sudden, about 25 new girls entered as a group the place late in the afternoon, flooded the wintergarten and shattered the foundations and common rules.

In parallel about 10 romanian girls at the same time were sitting in one corner and drinking lots of champaign celebrating the birthday of a well known SW.

This turned the wintergarten into an almost orgiastic scenery. Unbelievable scenes, on the floor, on the table dance platform, several girls giving blowjobs to men at the bar, another troop of new girls went downstairs and attacked men in the whirlpool giving blow-jobs, lots of couch action everywhere.

Seemed like something had come to WORLD and driven them all to madness.

Several of the established SW at WORLD left the place after some time being frustrated or even angry.

I hope Nick forgives me for quoting his old report, but it really made me smile. Not only because it is a good report, but also because it dates the time of the major Romanian invasion. Which was an important game changer. There were Romanian girls also before 2006, but they were never dominant untill something happened around 2006- 08.

And then we can discuss on and on if it was for good or for bad. Me, for one, has always been intrigued by Romanian beauty. Seeing the right girls their service standards are second to none.

But what happened to couch action, Ortos? Haha!

[Mr Ho]

Romanian girls are more interesting as women than Germans for me. They are different but sometimes also more interesting than Russians and I met many escorting in Paris or Milano or Torino. Latvian or Belarus women are really interesting. I m happy with Romanians and good girls usually still make good business when they choose the good club, complicated at World or LR.

Then lucky you because you will never run out of Romanians in German FKK for past 10 years.

However, I begin to appreciate the beauty of Romanian girls too, I never did because it was simply too over supplied and fucked too many Romanians LOL. Romanians are beautiful race and Latino a bit also and we should enjoy them while the trend of Romanian dominated line up last because one day it maybe replaced by other nationalities. I at least hope next line up domination will be Ukrainian girls.

In most corners of world, domination of line up are Asians, black, not beautiful white / Latino girls, so at least in German FKK, we are given beautiful Romanian girls straight out of Romanian towns, aren't we lucky!.

[JennyKk]

Hi. I reckon the change started about 2005, and as you say by 2008 was well under way, if not almost completed. I remember the day a busload of romanians (probably about 40 girls!!!) turned up at World, changing the club forever. Before that one day the numbers of romanians there were limited.The sudden oversupply of girls led to many girls from other nationalities leaving

So not really related to the recession. More the opening up of a new supply.

As for the optics, everybody will have their own views of course.

Make sense.

[Optimist]

No. KK is spot on. Prices remained the same, but the girls experienced fewer guests (lower earnings).

My memory is fading, but would it be fair to say that 2008-10 was a time when there was a larger change in the line-ups? Girls in less demand were quitting? German/ Russian / Baltic / Polish girls were replaced by younger and more beautiful Romanian girls? I will let others respond to that idea.

Hi. I reckon the change started about 2005, and as you say by 2008 was well under way, if not almost completed. I remember the day a busload of romanians (probably about 40 girls!!!) turned up at World, changing the club forever. Before that one day the numbers of romanians there were limited.The sudden oversupply of girls led to many girls from other nationalities leaving

So not really related to the recession. More the opening up of a new supply.

As for the optics, everybody will have their own views of course.

[Mr Ho]

Just curious, did the price drop during 2008 recession?

I began FKK mongering in 2009, right after Lehman shock, but entrance and house price is same as today, if I remember right. At least for Artemis. And there was multiple 12 entrance card for price of 10 entrance fee being same price as well.

However, in a way price was more fair back then than now from the point of view of up selling, Artemis was always upsell club, but as years went by upselling got more uglier (also lineup) and extreme that I stopped going there in 2015.

Also for another clubs, after new law, some girls try charging you extras for more by break down the standard services etc. So in reality, tendency to up sell increase is price increased.

There was a time, we easily got BBBJ, multiple position fuck and DATY for standard 50 or 60 euro per 30 min, but now 100 euro is the case most of time.

[Sirioja]

Romanian girls are more interesting as women than Germans for me. They are different but sometimes also more interesting than Russians and I met many escorting in Paris or Milano or Torino. Latvian or Belarus women are really interesting. I m happy with Romanians and good girls usually still make good business when they choose the good club, complicated at World or LR.

[Shark16]

Just curious, did the price drop during 2008 recession?

No. KK is spot on. Prices remained the same, but the girls experienced fewer guests (lower earnings).

My memory is fading, but would it be fair to say that 2008-10 was a time when there was a larger change in the line-ups? Girls in less demand were quitting? German/ Russian / Baltic / Polish girls were replaced by younger and more beautiful Romanian girls? I will let others respond to that idea.

[Kosher Kowboy]

Just curious, did the price drop during 2008 recession?

Great question, would love to read a reply from one of the long time veterans but it is my understanding from the guys living here that prices remained pretty consistent but club attendances did drop a tad. I could only answer this question as it relates to the USA sex prison and Mexico and central America but different market and the prices actually started rising not dropping in central America etc. As many retirees went down to points south with plenty of money and actually ' ruined' Panama, Costa Rica etc by paying up. Even the guys who go to Colombia and other places are complaining of upticks due to overpaying idiots to this day. How did all this play out in Germany? No clue. Wasn't here.

I also think this question is tied in to the drop in the market yesterday but admittedly I wondered the same thing. We will all have to adjust if the shit hits the fan and I am no economist but I don't think we will end up in a world economy that mirrors the Great Recession. If so, we deal with it and ride the storm out. Hold our equities, don't panic, live off the bonds and bond income and dividends until the market rises.

What I can add and a more likely situation is this Brexit shit which I don't completely understand but per my hotel manager once it is complete overall prices in Frankfurt on food, goods and services, rents, home prices, hotels, utilities and so on are expected to jump 10 percent or so on average which isn't too bad but that would also imply much more financial business in FRA than now for banking which probably means the price of a girl in the city clubs might jump and spread outwards but I have no clue just repeating what I heard; I can only react.

But look forward to guys who actually know chiming in...

[JennyKk]

Just curious, did the price drop during 2008 recession?

[Sirioja]

Moira was doing the bar duties a while ago. She used to be one of the best at Sharks. She still looked better than half the girls at Sharks when she donned shorts and a T shirt to mix drinks.

Speaking of economy, I wonder how our Brit friends are feeling these days. Pound Sterling is fast approaching parity with Euro. In 2015, it fetched them 1.4 Euros per Pound. I bet a few of them are making fewer visits to the clubs and taking minimal extras.

Yes, Moira even not a beauty for me but what was quality for girls before at Sharks, seemed happy to work at the bar. Same at Living Room, I didn't like childish Maya when was working to get rooms, only her tits worth to be seen for me, but she became lovely working at the bar and she seemed happy. I never spoke with Roxana when was working to get rooms, because I only went with one girl, but really nice when working at the bar, maybe she felt I m not a so big devil, but polite and respectful. Even for sure less money, and also for Edita at Golden Time, but they seem quite happy about their new job. Many ex prostitutes also work on desk, like Monika ex Heidi GT did at LR. Maybe, when they are not able anymore to be fucked whole day, they discover money is not happiness, money is only all when You were born poor and missed so much, to eat, to look like others, but these girls are learning to become normal women with less money, but a better body, mind and image of them.

[Mr Ho]

Most of the girls are not able to change, to discover new places so they stay where they know, many mongers over estimate the girls capacities, most of them have low education and you really need to be special to accept to get f. Every day by so many different men just for money, today in Germany the girls have a lot of possibilities to make their living, they don't need to be a prostitutes.

Most of the girls will stop at around 30 some will extend to 35 or even 40 but they need to give more extras, I am always very sad to see those old prostitutes a bit desperate, trying to seduce some mongers.

I wonder what will happen to those prostitute after their retirement from industry especially those 35, 40 years old ones. I guess in Germany they can get some kind of job.

As for Romanians, I had few on my facebook friends and some actually seemed to go to university I guess using money they made in FKK. I imagine they could get some kind of office job in Romania after that, so for some girls it is not that bad if they managed to collect enough money for university and for little more after university, you know good base money.