Safe Sex and Sex Related Discussions in Thailand

[EihTooms]

We have no clue what he was up to, could have been "injected" with something. Anyway, has to be someone unlucky enough to catch it from a girl's pussy, just there are other more likely things that could have caused it.

I lived in and around Inglewood, Ca. where the Lakers were based during those years, knew people who attended the infamous post-game sex parties. There were rumors about Johnson's wide ranging variety of acceptable if not desired sex partners well before his announcement that he'd acquired HIV and his best friend Isiah Thomas further contributed to those rumors.

https://www.espn.com/general/page2/s...02&src=desktop

Let's just say if Wilt Chamberlain had announced he acquired HIV (sexually) I would have no problem concluding he could only have gotten it from a woman. But not Magic Johnson. JMHO, of course.

[Syzygies]

Like Syzygies, I noticed a lot fewer "reports" of entire villages or both parents dying of HIV/AIDS several years after the initial identification of the virus.

This is related to your rant on untrustworthy statistics for those things because I think one of the reasons they stopped reporting this, that and every other death in some areas of the world with the possible (and only possible) exception of motorcycle and auto accident deaths as being an HIV/AIDS-related death is because the scientific community eventually came to a consensus conclusion that it is not only difficult for an HIV-Positive man to infect a woman with HIV through unprotected vaginal intercourse without a slew of typically unmentioned co-factors involved, but it is extremely rare for an HIV-Positive woman to infect a man with HIV that way (to the point where it is apparently relatively difficult to locate and verify such a man 40+ years into the awareness of the virus).

Therefore, the "reports" of seemingly commonplace male-to-female and female-to-male transmission of the virus via vaginal or oral sex had to dry up. They could and would no longer be taken seriously.

The thing about these worldwide panics where a lot of energy begins to get revved up to do something about it quick before it destroys the world is impoverished areas that do indeed need some attention, doctors' visits, medical treatment, food and money will often find a reason, any reason, to claim they ought to be first in line to benefit from the effort. Not saying all of those "reported" heterosexual death statistics were bogus. But there is definitely plenty of understandable motivation for some if not many to have been fabricated.

And in this particular case, widespread distribution of condoms during the era just might have been a coincidental rather than a causal factor in the reduction of those kinds of earlier "reports" regarding vaginal or oral sex transmission.

I did not mention anything about entire villages, that is laughable.

I think Aids would relatively easily be suspected by doctors when people die of very abnormal causes, diseases that they would normally survive, we have all heard of stuff like Karposi's Sarcoma, etc.

I can't say really if every disease in the villages were blamed on Aids, by the community whispers, however I doubt if Aids researchers would be blaming Aids for everything so easily. I don't see Aids getting blamed for many / any village deaths these days. It is mostly cancer (most common), motorcycle crashes, disease from wading in contaminated water, Dengue fever, etc. Many other things. Don't hear of TB at all really. Here it is called "Wanarork". However not prevalent, or not heard of this village recently. That Aids was blamed incorrectly in the past, could well be exaggerated, as I don't see it getting blamed now at all.

We should be asking what things villagers are exposed to causing high cancer rates? Smoking, farm chemicals, bad diet, etc.

I don't believe distribution of condoms is very relevant to reduction in AIDs, for hetero couples. We already agreed hetero sex was a very low cause of HIV in the first place. Given the levels of unwanted pregnancies, we certainly know the villagers are not big user's of condoms. Ha ha.

One would suspect that no longer sharing needles would be first major cause of HIV reduction, then whether gays started using condoms for anal sex, I don't know (and don't really care). HIV persons being treated would also reduce HIV being passed on. There are many reasons, starting from awareness. Condom distribution most likely just a publicity stunt.

I am still believing that Aids rates in the villages used to be high (years ago in line with overall HIV rates in Thailand) but certainly don't know what were the major reasons (acts causing it).

I certainly recall reading a while back of different strains of HIV being dominant in different countries, and the risks attached to contracting them varied significantly, as did the survivability rates etc. So there wasn't just one HIV with one risk factor. The risks in Thailand may not be the same as in the USA.

[Syzygies]

And I believe Magic Johnson wasn't gay when in 91 he announced that he was hiv+.

We have no clue what he was up to, could have been "injected" with something. Anyway, has to be someone unlucky enough to catch it from a girl's pussy, just there are other more likely things that could have caused it.

[Smoothy]

I use condom, to test her pussy. I am very scared of pregnancy. When I have sex, pregnancy is my biggest fear. If I make a woman pregnant, I am fucked. In Brazil when you make a woman pregant, you have to take responsibility for the child, that means you have pay child support. If a woman say, she takes pills, I don't trust. There are some pussies I come fast, I can't resist.

It sounds like you should search for pregnant girls to have sex with these days.

[MongerForSex]

Unless you run some blood tests on her in the interim, what will you know about your chances of contracting an STD from a girl through vaginal sex on your 3rd or 4th session with her (presumably going bareback by then) that you wouldn't know on your 1st session with her?

Serious question.

Whether it is our first time together or our fifth, I still have no idea who a girl was with and what she did with them the week before that session. So I am no more and no less preoccupied and worried on the first session than the fifth.

I suppose if we spent weeks only seeing each other every day and night I would know with more certainty that my chances are less. But that just doesn't happen in my world anymore.

I use condom, to test her pussy. I am very scared of pregnancy. When I have sex, pregnancy is my biggest fear. If I make a woman pregnant, I am fucked. In Brazil when you make a woman pregant, you have to take responsibility for the child, that means you have pay child support. If a woman say, she takes pills, I don't trust. There are some pussies I come fast, I can't resist.

Nobody will know chances of contracting STDs. Even doctors and scientists don't know it. That's why I never trust statistics. Everybody is different. All depends on your body. You may contract gonorrhea without knowing it, your body clear it without you knowing it. That's why infectious diseases are complicated. Some people contract typhoid but never develop the disease and over time the disease disappear.

In the medical literature written by pharma, no bacterial infectious disease can be cured without medication. It's not true, body can clear the disease before it becomes serious. There are many medical literatures where scientist contradict. There is no proof antibiotics is the only way to cure bacterial diseases. In the past, the medical equipment and accuracy was so bad. For example, some types of balanitis and posthitis were misdiagnosis as syphilis because of non pathogenic treponeme living in the inner foreskin, gonorrhea, penile cancer, fourgnier gangrene and chancroid were believed to be the cause of syphilis. What I mean, nobody will know the chance of contracting STDs. It is as if I tell you what is your chance of developing colon cancer if you keep eating meat. Some people don't eat meat but develop colon cancer. The medical literature changes all the time. If it was easy to understand the chances of contracting a disease, nobody would be sick.

The anwer is I don't know the chance of contracting STDs because there are many factors. Some people never wash their hands and eat raw meat and never get sick from salmonella and other people wash their hands and eat well cooked meat all the time and get sick from salmonella. There will never be an answer because medicine is complicated and people are different. Medicine is like politics, scientists don't agree each other.

[AnExpat]

HIV can't be transmitted from vaginal sex, it was not proved,

I have never seen straight people contracting hiv from women, .

Well, what if the woman has blood in her vagina from period bleeding or remnants of it and the guy has just shaved his penis and balls and has minor undetected cuts? Doesn't that significantly increase the risk?

And I believe Magic Johnson wasn't gay when in 91 he announced that he was hiv+.

[EihTooms]

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I have sex with girls with condom or without condom, It depends on the girl. For example, I always use condoms with new partners for vaginal sex.
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Unless you run some blood tests on her in the interim, what will you know about your chances of contracting an STD from a girl through vaginal sex on your 3rd or 4th session with her (presumably going bareback by then) that you wouldn't know on your 1st session with her?

Serious question.

Whether it is our first time together or our fifth, I still have no idea who a girl was with and what she did with them the week before that session. So I am no more and no less preoccupied and worried on the first session than the fifth.

I suppose if we spent weeks only seeing each other every day and night I would know with more certainty that my chances are less. But that just doesn't happen in my world anymore.

[MongerForSex]

Like Syzygies, I noticed a lot fewer "reports" of entire villages or both parents dying of HIV/AIDS several years after the initial identification of the virus.

This is related to your rant on untrustworthy statistics for those things because I think one of the reasons they stopped reporting this, that and every other death in some areas of the world with the possible (and only possible) exception of motorcycle and auto accident deaths as being an HIV/AIDS-related death is because the scientific community eventually came to a consensus conclusion that it is not only difficult for an HIV-Positive man to infect a woman with HIV through unprotected vaginal intercourse without a slew of typically unmentioned co-factors involved, but it is extremely rare for an HIV-Positive woman to infect a man with HIV that way (to the point where it is apparently relatively difficult to locate and verify such a man 40+ years into the awareness of the virus).

Therefore, the "reports" of seemingly commonplace male-to-female and female-to-male transmission of the virus via vaginal or oral sex had to dry up. They could and would no longer be taken seriously.

The thing about these worldwide panics where a lot of energy begins to get revved up to do something about it quick before it destroys the world is impoverished areas that do indeed need some attention, doctors' visits, medical treatment, food and money will often find a reason, any reason, to claim they ought to be first in line to benefit from the effort. Not saying all of those "reported" heterosexual death statistics were bogus. But there is definitely plenty of understandable motivation for some if not many to have been fabricated.

And in this particular case, widespread distribution of condoms during the era just might have been a coincidental rather than a causal factor in the reduction of those kinds of earlier "reports" regarding vaginal or oral sex transmission.

The best way to have hiv is to have sex with transexuals and men and the second best way is to use dirty needles to inject drug. HIV can't be transmitted from vaginal sex, it was not proved, there was a 10 year study about serodiscordant couples in San francisco. I don't trust the study done in Africa. The best study was done in the USA. Nobody was infected, the study done in the usa is the most accurate. People with high viral load couldn't contaminate their partner. Straight men can't catch hiv from women, but using condoms is important not to have uncomfortable experience.

Everything is about money, now they want hiv negative people to use their fucking truvada. Truvada is very bad for healthy people (bones, liver and kidney). I don't advise straight people to use truvada if they only want to protect themself from hiv but I always advise people to use condoms for protection against other STDs and pregnancy. Oral sex is zero risk for hiv. Oral sex is low risk for orther STDs. I have never seen straight people contracting hiv from women, sex is cultural in Brazil, straight men have as many partners as gay men in Brazil. Unlike in the USA where , gay men have more partners than straight men . MSM are the most affected in Brazil. Gay sex is dangerous.

I have sex with girls with condom or without condom, It depends on the girl. For example, I always use condoms with new partners for vaginal sex.

Now people are so scared of HSV, but HSV is very common and harmless, if I can choose between having hsv and diabetes, I will choose hsv. Most people don't develop outbreak, some people develop an outbreak, most of them only develop one outbreak their whole life. Recurrence is less severe.

The stigma creates fear of sex and makes people feel guilty. I don't give a shit about stigma and guilt, I just say, leave me alone, let me fuck bitches. I have to get empty all the time to feel better. Thanks to sex and sport, I am healthy, I don't live stressful life, my brain feels good, My prostate works very well, I fuck and come 4 - 8 times a day. I don't take any viagra. My male organs excercise well. I jog and do other cardio excercises 5 times a day.

That's why I decided not to live in the USA, better to stay away from catholicism and feminism. Sex prison is not for me. I love Brazil, I fuck everyday, I live like a king. I m proud to be Brazilian. As a jew, I feel safer in Brazil. Nobody judges me there.

Conclusion: Those folks on the forum are scared of STDs but they don't know they will suffer from other diseases that are way worse than STDs in the future. Life is too good to be scared of spooky sexual diseases. Forget hiv and leave it for gays, pussy is too good.

[MongerForSex]

I think you missed my point in that there are other ways of getting HIV. Just look at the 'vampire facials' being done in New Mexico last year where they believe two people got infected through tainted blood.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I did not read your comment well.

[Franciscass]

BBFS. How much and what kind of risk is involved?

With the controversy on reliability of stats for numbers, causes and effects it seems neigh impossible to know precisely.

Is it minimal? Perhaps but what is not in doubt BBFS with somebody who's history is unknown carries an increased risk of contracting a STD.

The smarter working girls worldwide know this.

[Turgid]

My hope is that the Thai authorities are teaching their women to practise safe sex to ensure better health for their country.

[EihTooms]

No need to teach me about hiv. I am well educated and I think you are the one that doesn't understand. Statistics are bullshit because there is no exact number for statistics. (In 2018, around 770 000 (570 000 - 1. 1 million people died from AIDS-related illnesses worldwide, compared to 1. 7 million (1. 3 million - 2. 4 million in 2004 and 1. 2 million ( 860 000 -1. 6 million in 2010. No fucking exact number. In Africa, there is no equipment to find real pathology even in India and Thailand because medical system sucks. No time to perform biopsy on fucking poor dead people. I am immunecompetent and almost died of tuberculosis, antibiotics saved my life. Many immunecompetent people die of TB. You don't need to teach me infectious diseases. Opportunist diseases also kill immunecompetent people. 20000 people died of staphylococcus in the USA and thousands of people died of influenza.

In Indonesia, TB is one of the leading cause of death. It also kills many immunecompetent people in Indonesia. HIV RELATED DEATH CHANGES BUT TB IS ALWAYS HERE BECAUSE TB IS A REAL SHIT. TO ME, HIV STATISTICS ARE BULLSHIT.

no need to be taught by someone that has no experience with infectious diseases. Immune deficiency may happen because of many causes. Biopsies on every corpses are expensive in developping country. (no money, no insurance to cover expenses for poor worthless people) so better to give the name of the cause of death without wasting time and money. Statistics are just speculation.

Who cares about villagers, they are poor and worthless. If they die, nobody gives a shit, they are just a number.

https://www.tbfacts.org/deaths-from-tb/ As you can see statistics are bullshit. many people die of tb in Africa.I don't really care about future and progression, because there was never a progression, people always die. we will all die someday.

Like Syzygies, I noticed a lot fewer "reports" of entire villages or both parents dying of HIV/AIDS several years after the initial identification of the virus.

This is related to your rant on untrustworthy statistics for those things because I think one of the reasons they stopped reporting this, that and every other death in some areas of the world with the possible (and only possible) exception of motorcycle and auto accident deaths as being an HIV/AIDS-related death is because the scientific community eventually came to a consensus conclusion that it is not only difficult for an HIV-Positive man to infect a woman with HIV through unprotected vaginal intercourse without a slew of typically unmentioned co-factors involved, but it is extremely rare for an HIV-Positive woman to infect a man with HIV that way (to the point where it is apparently relatively difficult to locate and verify such a man 40+ years into the awareness of the virus).

Therefore, the "reports" of seemingly commonplace male-to-female and female-to-male transmission of the virus via vaginal or oral sex had to dry up. They could and would no longer be taken seriously.

The thing about these worldwide panics where a lot of energy begins to get revved up to do something about it quick before it destroys the world is impoverished areas that do indeed need some attention, doctors' visits, medical treatment, food and money will often find a reason, any reason, to claim they ought to be first in line to benefit from the effort. Not saying all of those "reported" heterosexual death statistics were bogus. But there is definitely plenty of understandable motivation for some if not many to have been fabricated.

And in this particular case, widespread distribution of condoms during the era just might have been a coincidental rather than a causal factor in the reduction of those kinds of earlier "reports" regarding vaginal or oral sex transmission.

[Kerrstar]

Brazil is not Africa, Thailand or India. HIV in Brazil is as prevalent as hiv in the USA. HIV is a junkie and gay disease in Brazil like in the USA.

I think you missed my point in that there are other ways of getting HIV. Just look at the 'vampire facials' being done in New Mexico last year where they believe two people got infected through tainted blood.

[Syzygies]

In Indonesia, TB is one of the leading cause of death. It also kills many immunecompetent people in Indonesia. HIV RELATED DEATH CHANGES BUT TB IS ALWAYS HERE BECAUSE TB IS A REAL SHIT. TO ME, HIV STATISTICS ARE BULLSHIT.

I am not Admin but Admin often removes or changes stuff written in Capitals. The rules of Forum state that it is considered to be yelling. And not desirable. Ha ha. Just letting you know in case need to calm down.

[MongerForSex]

Which part of the phrase "Immune Deficiency" do you refuse to understand? Technically speaking, nobody ever died of AIDS alone, only of opportunistic infections that would not have killed them if they didn't have AIDS.

Nobody ever got hurt by a gun either, it's always because they happened to be in the path of a bullet.

No need to teach me about hiv. I am well educated and I think you are the one that doesn't understand. Statistics are bullshit because there is no exact number for statistics. (In 2018, around 770 000 (570 000 - 1. 1 million people died from AIDS-related illnesses worldwide, compared to 1. 7 million (1. 3 million - 2. 4 million in 2004 and 1. 2 million ( 860 000 -1. 6 million in 2010. No fucking exact number. In Africa, there is no equipment to find real pathology even in India and Thailand because medical system sucks. No time to perform biopsy on fucking poor dead people. I am immunecompetent and almost died of tuberculosis, antibiotics saved my life. Many immunecompetent people die of TB. You don't need to teach me infectious diseases. Opportunist diseases also kill immunecompetent people. 20000 people died of staphylococcus in the USA and thousands of people died of influenza.

In Indonesia, TB is one of the leading cause of death. It also kills many immunecompetent people in Indonesia. HIV RELATED DEATH CHANGES BUT TB IS ALWAYS HERE BECAUSE TB IS A REAL SHIT. TO ME, HIV STATISTICS ARE BULLSHIT.

no need to be taught by someone that has no experience with infectious diseases. Immune deficiency may happen because of many causes. Biopsies on every corpses are expensive in developping country. (no money, no insurance to cover expenses for poor worthless people) so better to give the name of the cause of death without wasting time and money. Statistics are just speculation.

Who cares about villagers, they are poor and worthless. If they die, nobody gives a shit, they are just a number.

https://www.tbfacts.org/deaths-from-tb/ As you can see statistics are bullshit. many people die of tb in Africa.I don't really care about future and progression, because there was never a progression, people always die. we will all die someday.