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[Bishop80]

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[Mr Enternational]

IMHO these 2 clubs still attracts the most good looking girls in Pattaya but it attracts as well guys who think they are sent from god and pretend a good free fuck or else first timers in Thailand who don't know the real game! It could be some girls quote 4/5 k but the ones who do are ones who are partying with friends on their day off from let say go-go. One thing I don't like about these 2 bars, I noted there is a sort of link between waiters and girls to get drinks commission, worst than that is if you purchase a singha its 155 baht for me (last update Feb 19) but if a lady buy it its 120 thb.

Why do you care what other guys are doing? There are rarely gogo chicks on their day off in iBar. Chicks do not go to Pattaya to have days off. It is a freelance joint. There is no link between anyone to get any commission. It is simply one price for rich foreigners and a lower price for poor Thai locals for certain drinks. I have been to iBar 100 times and have never bought a drink for a chick. There is no need to. But if you insist, then just sneak 100 baht to her and let her order it on her own. Every club in Pattaya is like this, not just iBar.

You would have to be a damn fool to give one of those chicks 4000 or 5000 baht. I have never even read a report of them even asking for that much. Take note from Pete Nut's report below. That is how things are supposed to be done.

[Pute Nut]

It could be some girls quote 4/5 k but the ones who do are ones who are partying with friends on their day off from let say go-go. Being their day off they prefer to party hard but a long time for 5 k will be a bonus that's why they gamble!

I'm amazed to hear these crazy amounts being thrown around. Sounds like a f-off quotation to me. I seldom take girls from Insomnia, but the quotes I get from the clingons are usually 1500. One who just followed me back to hotel didn't ask anything, gave her free lunch and 1200 the next day and she thanked with a nice wai, I don't know what she had expected but I like to pay at least some happy girl insurance.

In fact by 4 am there are still loads of girls getting wasted. One thing I don't like about these 2 bars, I noted there is a sort of link between waiters and girls to get drinks commission, worst than that is if you purchase a singha its 155 baht for me (last update Feb 19) but if a lady buy it its 120 thb.

You can buy a membership card that will give you discount on all drinks, well worth it if you visit regularly.

[Bugzy 69]

IMHO these 2 clubs still attracts the most good looking girls in Pattaya but it attracts as well guys who think they are sent from god and pretend a good free fuck or else first timers in Thailand who don't know the real game! I frequent this place lot of times and there is a huge variety of ladies and my approach was always a money transaction agreement. It could be some girls quote 4/5 k but the ones who do are ones who are partying with friends on their day off from let say go-go. Being their day off they prefer to party hard but a long time for 5 k will be a bonus that's why they gamble! In fact by 4 am there are still loads of girls getting wasted. One thing I don't like about these 2 bars, I noted there is a sort of link between waiters and girls to get drinks commission, worst than that is if you purchase a singha its 155 baht for me (last update Feb 19) but if a lady buy it its 120 thb.

I probably missed the part of his post where he was treating girls like "second class humans".

Anyway, even if his "tips" are not all very wise IMO (as said in a previous post, it's better to not be touchy feely with random girls in the streets or in the malls), I feel like his post is a mix of what we can read on ISG in the last few years on the Pattaya thread. The guy might even never have put a foot in Pattaya before editing his post.

It's OK to go in Pattaya and not spend loads of bucks on girls or drinks (Never paying drinks for bargirls or not taking a drink for oneself is a bad advice though). There are probably more people doing it that way than the opposite way. It all depends on which reason you're there for and what you have most: time or money?

It's been a long time I didn't see a review about Insomnia or Ibar, is it still a sausage fuckfest? Last time I've been in Insomnia (in 2015) I found only one girl that looked ok and she quoted me 4 K. Normally I would laugh at such a price but I didn't even want to laugh as I was shocked at how the girls took advantage over the guys and were expecting to be paid such an amount in that shithole..

[Smoothy]

Ha ha. Got a few laughs. We certainly get to see why Indians are sometimes seen as not desirable customers, and refused entry to some bars. Applying India standards of Frugality (meanness) in Thailand probably is not a great idea.

I prefer the bars that won't even let them in. The ones who say "sorry, members only" when an Indian tries to enter. When I see those bars turning Indians away saying members only, I mark those bars down as favorites and give them as much business as possible.

[Syzygies]

1. If your game is OK try accosting beautiful women wherever you find them. Streets, malls, eateries, etc (your gut should tell they're WG). Don't lose a chance, don't be shy and don't be too cocky. Get chatting a few lines, get a bit touchy feely (they really don't mind that from a stranger IMHO) and exchange Line IDs. I've had the bestest of luck that way. In their downtime they may want to visit you. Although ST is normally quoted 1000 in bars, many of these girls can come 700-900 for ST if pursued rightly. And am talking about stunners.

A Farang female told me how she had a hard time in India, with the culture there seeming to accept that guys on the street would try to touch her up, however this is not acceptable in Thailand, and most countries. So forget this touchy feely thing unless girls are coming on to you and hookers, or ladyboys perhaps.

Now your "Game" is something that matters when you try to get a free fuck, but somewhat irrelevant with hookers, others than needing to have acceptable behaviours and pay a suitable amount. Perhaps relevant with semi-hookers (part timers).

Groping goes on in Thailand, yes, in bars (behind closed doors), not so much in public although Pattaya may have an anything goes standard for behaviour of Thais, I am not sure.

My rule for touching girls, is move slowly and don't be sneeky. She can always escape from it if she needs to. If the girl encourages me to touch her, then fine (e. G. The bargirl is happy for my hand to be in her panties. Part of her sell).

[Syzygies]

Responding to you in no specific order.

6 There is a reason why Indians are not admitted to clubs or bars or have to pre-purchase a drink at the door.

Ha ha. Got a few laughs. We certainly get to see why Indians are sometimes seen as not desirable customers, and refused entry to some bars. Applying India standards of Frugality (meanness) in Thailand probably is not a great idea. However he seemed happy his "game" worked for him.

Indians seem to believe that every girl will start on a price too high and then drop it down to a price too low. I know from experience though that one of my semi-regular girls (already offering a low price) refuses to bargain with guys. She says she likes Farangs. Probably does not get many non Farangs. Many guys (various nationalities) were trying to offer her sub 1 K prices and she was not the slightest bit interested to talk to them. After all, she was superior looking in the area (although far too skinny to suit some), and not finding it difficult to get a customer that will pay her price. Yeh, I agree that bargaining below 1 K can work, but for the most desperate of girls, that are generally not wanted.

Strangely when girls have offered me bargain basement prices (below 1 K) out on the street, I knocked them back. Just were not doable.

[Turgid]

Geez King, perhaps your post was meant to be informative and helpful but as you can see from most member's reactions cheeky cheap charlies with a self-described game are not really appreciated ............

Attacks on a Cheap Charlie! How laughable in the Pattaya forum! Why pick on this guy when, from all accounts, most of the posters and residents here are Cheap Charlies?

[D Cups]

Arn Poddict,

Superb photo. Is it possible to just get her digits and not pay the barfine and lady drinks? Cheers.

[Paolo99]

But more important is that your post can be taken as confirmation of the prejudice about indian men: they treat women like second class humans.

I probably missed the part of his post where he was treating girls like "second class humans".

Anyway, even if his "tips" are not all very wise IMO (as said in a previous post, it's better to not be touchy feely with random girls in the streets or in the malls), I feel like his post is a mix of what we can read on ISG in the last few years on the Pattaya thread. The guy might even never have put a foot in Pattaya before editing his post.

It's OK to go in Pattaya and not spend loads of bucks on girls or drinks (Never paying drinks for bargirls or not taking a drink for oneself is a bad advice though). There are probably more people doing it that way than the opposite way. It all depends on which reason you're there for and what you have most: time or money?

It's been a long time I didn't see a review about Insomnia or Ibar, is it still a sausage fuckfest? Last time I've been in Insomnia (in 2015) I found only one girl that looked ok and she quoted me 4 K. Normally I would laugh at such a price but I didn't even want to laugh as I was shocked at how the girls took advantage over the guys and were expecting to be paid such an amount in that shithole. I was a regular of that place untill 2012 and could regularly meet cute twenty'ish girls there, but then saw quality going down at each new trip and prices were going up in the same time.

Trying to bring down the soi6 girl at 800 is a good idea (but if she doesn't want and you like her, take her anyway), but is probably a better idea for guys that stay in Patts long time or go there regularly. It's been said multiple times on ISG that some of these girls are willing to lower their price to go with some customers.

Don't fall for the Russian / CIS girls is good advice, except if they are not WG.

[Traveller747]

Hi,

I'm mid 30's Indian who just visited Pattaya for the sixth time in 14 years. All my stays have been minimum a week long or so but I always rtff before landing here. Here are some tips from my experience:

1. If your game is OK try accosting beautiful women wherever you find them. Streets, malls, eateries, etc (your gut should tell they're WG). Don't lose a chance, don't be shy and don't be too cocky. Get chatting a few lines, get a bit touchy feely (they really don't mind that from a stranger IMHO) and exchange Line IDs. I've had the bestest of luck that way. In their downtime they may want to visit you. Although ST is normally quoted 1000 in bars, many of these girls can come 700-900 for ST if pursued rightly. And am talking about stunners.

2. If possible don't go for girls above 25 (unless you're itching a MILF that day) and in worst case 30. Just ask them to show their IDs playfully as they lie all the time. I feel women above 30 are a hardened lot, and the bodies aren't as elegant anymore. The choice of beautiful 20-something girls is plentiful here. Why settle for less, and reduce your ROI?

3. I personally just do GoGos only once per visit to see what's the latest trend. I think they've a total rip-off. They don't offer the best value for money for a real mongerer. And the girls are snobs there. Other waste of money are the soapies, oilies and overpriced Russian / CIS girls. Savor local while you're here.

4. Give a shot to Tinder and WeChat nearby function. Sometime you may find beautiful girls here. ThaiFriendly did not work for me and I hate its messaging system. So don't waste time on it.

5. On Soi 6, if a girl quotes you 1000, you should counter with 800. Tbh that's a very good price for 30 min boink, and the ones who don't accept that should be done away with.

6. Another big con-game is ladies drink. Never ever buy them. Just buy your drink and get on with the game, since your objective to be let sit in the bar is already met with that. And if your goal is to pick up a girl from that bar, don't order a drink for self unless you can somewhat sense that your target (s) is interested in going out with you. Otherwise just skirt from outside. Enquire barfine the first thing, that evinces your interest to pick up a girl and not just dawdle there. Some are 300 but a lot I see these days 400-500.

7. Try Insomnia and other clubs if you're in to freelancers. I really find them more easy going than establishment girls. Avoid beach road as lot of skanks and oldies there, they don't show a good sign of health.

As others already posted: you give the advice for a cheap charly on a very low budget. So far, so good; not everyone is a big spender.

But more important is that your post can be taken as confirmation of the prejudice about indian men: they treat women like second class humans.

[Franciscass]

Hi,

I'm mid 30's Indian who just visited Pattaya for the sixth time in 14 years. All my stays have been minimum a week long or so but I always rtff before landing here. Here are some tips from my experience:

Geez King, perhaps your post was meant to be informative and helpful but as you can see from most member's reactions cheeky cheap charlies with a self-described game are not really appreciated and sorry to say just perpetuate misguided prejudice's. Not sure if it's a budget issue with you, if so understandable but if not I would loosen the strings and who knows you may end up enjoying the experience of buying a drink for the locals without looking for something in return.

[Gin And Tonic]

Hi,

I'm mid 30's Indian who just visited Pattaya for the sixth time in 14 years. All my stays have been minimum a week long or so but I always rtff before landing here. Here are some tips from my experience:

1. If your game is OK try accosting beautiful women wherever you find them. Streets, malls, eateries, etc (your gut should tell they're WG). Don't lose a chance, don't be shy and don't be too cocky. Get chatting a few lines, get a bit touchy feely (they really don't mind that from a stranger IMHO) and exchange Line IDs. I've had the bestest of luck that way. In their downtime they may want to visit you. Although ST is normally quoted 1000 in bars, many of these girls can come 700-900 for ST if pursued rightly. And am talking about stunners.

2. If possible don't go for girls above 25 (unless you're itching a MILF that day) and in worst case 30. Just ask them to show their IDs playfully as they lie all the time. I feel women above 30 are a hardened lot, and the bodies aren't as elegant anymore. The choice of beautiful 20-something girls is plentiful here. Why settle for less, and reduce your ROI?

3. I personally just do GoGos only once per visit to see what's the latest trend. I think they've a total rip-off. They don't offer the best value for money for a real mongerer. And the girls are snobs there. Other waste of money are the soapies, oilies and overpriced Russian / CIS girls. Savor local while you're here.

4. Give a shot to Tinder and WeChat nearby function. Sometime you may find beautiful girls here. ThaiFriendly did not work for me and I hate its messaging system. So don't waste time on it.

5. On Soi 6, if a girl quotes you 1000, you should counter with 800. Tbh that's a very good price for 30 min boink, and the ones who don't accept that should be done away with.

6. Another big con-game is ladies drink. Never ever buy them. Just buy your drink and get on with the game, since your objective to be let sit in the bar is already met with that. And if your goal is to pick up a girl from that bar, don't order a drink for self unless you can somewhat sense that your target (s) is interested in going out with you. Otherwise just skirt from outside. Enquire barfine the first thing, that evinces your interest to pick up a girl and not just dawdle there. Some are 300 but a lot I see these days 400-500.

7. Try Insomnia and other clubs if you're in to freelancers. I really find them more easy going than establishment girls. Avoid beach road as lot of skanks and oldies there, they don't show a good sign of health.

฿700? For a decent freelancer that sounds like a group rate. How many in your group to get it down to that price?

[Arn Poddict]

3. I personally just do GoGos only once per visit to see what's the latest trend. I think they've a total rip-off. They don't offer the best value for money for a real mongerer. And the girls are snobs there. Other waste of money are the soapies, oilies and overpriced Russian / CIS girls. Savor local while you're here.

Since you are a young man in your mid 30's with OK game why bother paying the hookers? Pick up the freebies.

I don't mind at all paying 2500 for an hour of soapy massage and fuck with a talented 25-30 YO Thai woman who knows how to handle a cock. I had recently a very nice session in Sabai Room.

Yes Agogos are expensive but if I want to play with a 20-25 year old Thai body with nice natural tits in my hotel bed then I have to spend some cash. This one in the picture costed 1500 + 3000 + drinks.

[Falcon 95]

Apparently, Palace has happy hour now. Unfortunately, it starts at 01:30 AM. One of a kind.