FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[ExpatLover]

In the short term, perhaps you are correct. But in the long term and looking at the Big Picture? I wonder...

And by the way: I was in Frankfurt during the massive heat wave that afflicted Germany during late June/early July. Two-three days: +38-39 degrees. The lack of A/C notwithstanding, I elected to go to Sharks over other (cooler) options, simply because in the end there would be better selection and LU for me. That is my main priority, but I didn't session in the rooms as much as I would have liked, because of the pervasive heat. The girls on offer will always be the alpha and omega for me in determining which club(s) I visit.

I guess in the end it comes down to this: how much do the club management (i.e. the people who decide where to invest improvement money) value the comfort of persons who visit the rooms? If all they care about is getting them into the club, then maybe for the management, making sessions in the room comfortable for their male (and female!) guests is of low priority.

FKK is not a normal business, just have a quick about who are the owners of the clubs. The boss of Paradise Stuttgart was sentenced for 5 years jail, last month the new boss a woman was arrested for taxes issues. As long the business is booming no need to further invest also despite KK aggressive comments against me, the reality is also that the customers are also changing, far more diversity, younger man just looking for quick sex with what they consider being beautiful girls, sili, Botox, porn look. Blonde, it is not their fault they were mostly educated by TV reality shows or Youporn, and also probably the real natural educated beauties are perhaps not accessible to them.

[Pessimist]

In the short term, perhaps you are correct. But in the long term and looking at the Big Picture? I wonder...

And by the way: I was in Frankfurt during the massive heat wave that afflicted Germany during late June/early July. Two-three days: +38-39 degrees. The lack of A/C notwithstanding, I elected to go to Sharks over other (cooler) options, simply because in the end there would be better selection and LU for me. That is my main priority, but I didn't session in the rooms as much as I would have liked, because of the pervasive heat. The girls on offer will always be the alpha and omega for me in determining which club(s) I visit.

I guess in the end it comes down to this: how much do the club management (i.e. the people who decide where to invest improvement money) value the comfort of persons who visit the rooms? If all they care about is getting them into the club, then maybe for the management, making sessions in the room comfortable for their male (and female!) guests is of low priority.

I agree with you. And I think you made a really good point below in another comment that temperatures have been rising in this region in the last few years. What might have been acceptable and tolerable a few years ago is no longer so. Clubs can put this problem on the back burner for only so long.

A few years ago, Oase was still numero uno among clubs. LU was good, Club was full of men, service reasonably good with not as much upselling etc. But the food sucked. Girls could eat just once a day, and some men had to let them share their food or else the girls were starving. Men could get a pizza or the lousy buffet, then the pizza went away. Customers were unhappy. Had the management paid attention in time, perhaps the club would not have slid. I'm not saying food was the only reason Oase went down the ranks but perhaps that was the canary in the coal Mine? Food quality has improved since those days but that club never fully regained its former glory.

If Sharks mgmt had any sense, they would fix this problem. Unbearable temperatures in the room subtracts from the quality of sex. Girls, themselves sweating, do not relish being fucked by fat men drenched in sweat and that gets reflected in their rush to get out of the room even faster than normal. This is a problem in search of a solution unlike the bar upgrade (water and coke fountains is a different matter).

[Zumboit]

Hi,

Do you know what happened with Donna? Did she quit one year ago or time by time she still works at Mainhattan? Did you see her in the last year?

Thanks!

Its been more than a year since I saw her. But there has been mention of her some months ago on the Mainhattan thread.

[Ortos]

TT123 chose to go to Sharks two days in a row during a heat wave. If others are acting in a similar manner, then Sharks business might not suffer at all as Ortos predicts. TT123 certainly did not vote with his feet or EUR. He could have went to air conditioned clubs like Palace and World. He chose not to.

In the short term, perhaps you are correct. But in the long term and looking at the Big Picture? I wonder...

And by the way: I was in Frankfurt during the massive heat wave that afflicted Germany during late June/early July. Two-three days: +38-39 degrees. The lack of A/C notwithstanding, I elected to go to Sharks over other (cooler) options, simply because in the end there would be better selection and LU for me. That is my main priority, but I didn't session in the rooms as much as I would have liked, because of the pervasive heat. The girls on offer will always be the alpha and omega for me in determining which club(s) I visit.

I guess in the end it comes down to this: how much do the club management (i.e. the people who decide where to invest improvement money) value the comfort of persons who visit the rooms? If all they care about is getting them into the club, then maybe for the management, making sessions in the room comfortable for their male (and female!) guests is of low priority.

[ExpatLover]

What about fans. To me circulating air is much better than static in high temperature. It was unbearably hot in late June and July when I was there. Very few rooms had fans. The non-installation of ceiling fans in rooms at Sharks seems almost sinister.

You are right, but as long the business is booming why should they invest.

[Sirioja]

Outside chalets have AC and window.

[Pessimist]

Like the majority of people here, I believe AC upgrades at Sharks should get priority over any other amenity upgrades. I go primarily with the objective of spending time in the rooms. But perhaps we are in the minority here, and other Sharks customers not as bothered by the sauna temperatures that persist inside the club. Some Sharks customers like to buy bottles and drink with their friends. Some Sharks customers like to sunbathe poolside. While they also on occasion go to the room, the overall satisfaction of their visit does not depend on spending time in a room with a WG. These types of customers have zero representation on ISG.

TT123 chose to go to Sharks two days in a row during a heat wave. If others are acting in a similar manner, then Sharks business might not suffer at all as Ortos predicts. TT123 certainly did not vote with his feet or EUR. He could have went to air conditioned clubs like Palace and World. He chose not to.

If we truly expect change, we should boycott Sharks on "hot" days. For locals, this is obviously easier since they can postpone or adjust the dates of their visits to cooler days. Like other heat waves this summer, the heat wave that ends today only lasted 3-5 days. Frankfurt has high of 34 today, but rest of the week mid 20's. Next Saturday September 7 the forecasted high is 20.

Foreign sex tourists have a limited amount of time in Germany and have to use every minute of it wisely. I don't know the status of the gentleman TT123 and if he is a tourist or not. But if he is as I am, then boycotting a club solely due to lack of AC is not the best decision. Girls are the number one reason, and moreover as a frequent visitor he may already have his established regulars in a club, perhaps even made appointments with a few. That he or someone else did not boycott a club should not be taken as an endorsement of the club management and their decision to not install proper ventilation conditions.

One way to check — is the attendance seasonally depressed in a given club and to what extent is that caused by lack of AC? Now, there are multiple reasons why attendance varies month to month and it is not right to attribute all the variations to a single variable like existence or lack of AC. That said, most businesses and firms have seasonal variations in their revenue intake and they understand the reasons or at least try to understand them and mitigate some of the factors that depresses revenues in the lean months. In the case of Sharks, we have seen several punters already declare that they will stay away from the club during summer months, members here advising other members to stay away till conditions are less hot, etc. The club can take the stance that "we are fine, we have enough attendance as it is" or they can say "we want to improve because that is what good companies and businesses do, so let me listen to my customers". We know which way Sharks has gone so far.

[McAdonis]

So if not today, definitely by tomorrow these clubs will have to face the writing on the wall: A / C will be necessary to maintain decent business during three to four months of the year.

Like the majority of people here, I believe AC upgrades at Sharks should get priority over any other amenity upgrades. I go primarily with the objective of spending time in the rooms. But perhaps we are in the minority here, and other Sharks customers not as bothered by the sauna temperatures that persist inside the club. Some Sharks customers like to buy bottles and drink with their friends. Some Sharks customers like to sunbathe poolside. While they also on occasion go to the room, the overall satisfaction of their visit does not depend on spending time in a room with a WG. These types of customers have zero representation on ISG.

TT123 chose to go to Sharks two days in a row during a heat wave. If others are acting in a similar manner, then Sharks business might not suffer at all as Ortos predicts. TT123 certainly did not vote with his feet or EUR. He could have went to air conditioned clubs like Palace and World. He chose not to.

If we truly expect change, we should boycott Sharks on "hot" days. For locals, this is obviously easier since they can postpone or adjust the dates of their visits to cooler days. Like other heat waves this summer, the heat wave that ends today only lasted 3-5 days. Frankfurt has high of 34 today, but rest of the week mid 20's. Next Saturday September 7 the forecasted high is 20.

[Turgid]

A / C installation is very costly in Europe, compare to what I paid in China also due to noise may be they need some authorization. Waterfall and LED are very cheap in comparison. Summer time are always hot in Germany and more and more, may be you can do like me, less FKK visits, less rooms much more money in your pocket. You can also travel to Constanza mamaia beach so many girls there and with some efforts also easy to have fun. There is a life outside the german P6 scene.

What about fans. To me circulating air is much better than static in high temperature. It was unbearably hot in late June and July when I was there. Very few rooms had fans. The non-installation of ceiling fans in rooms at Sharks seems almost sinister.

[Rovereto]

The bar is open and beautiful. Looks great, 3 friendly bargirls kept drinks flowing.

My first time back to FKK in a year, longer since I was at Sharks. I always liked Mainhattan, finding enough choices to satisfy me most nights. But that was Donna and the good old days. Reviews have been so bad lately I decided to move to Sharks.

So glad I did. I had a great night Friday August 30th, first day of the new bar.

Being away so long there.

Was a lot of anticipation and fantasies bouncing around my two heads. Really seemed like all I could think about. Aside from being discreet about the actual visit, luckily no one in my daily life can read my mind.

So as an experienced, though not frequent FKK visitor, I know how to make my way around without getting upsold much.

Promising myself to look all around before going to a room, I broke down after 20 steps in and just couldn't say no to Yella or Sella, dark, redbrown pony tail, gorgeous body, thin not skinny, curvy just right, nice face. Not your GND more like the hot cool chick up the street who never noticed me.

I had a great time, agreed 1 hour for 100 E, Nice energetic cowgirl, great soft natural blowjob, funny talkative, and oh what a sight in the fully mirrored room downstairs. Seeing and feeling such a pretty girl with great bod slurping away at my dick was heaven. I hadn't planned on DATY but her pussy was so beautiful I couldn't resist.

Hi,

Do you know what happened with Donna? Did she quit one year ago or time by time she still works at Mainhattan? Did you see her in the last year?

Thanks!

[TankTank123]

Visited Sharks again yesterday despite the heat. Wondered why I was so masochistic.

It was reasonably cool at the start of the day. The bar area was now open, but the workers were still polishing the floor, and there were no bar stools yet. The bar was thus not operational till late afternoon when the bar stools were assembled. By that time, the new water feature on the left was no longer working!

I spent the afternoon with 2 of my old favorites. I wanted to use the pavilion right at the far side of the pool as that had the best breeze, but as it was already occupied by Alina/Angie and her Stamgast, I knew I had no chance of using it for the rest of the afternoon.

It became very hot in the late afternoon, but luckily the bar area was not hot.

I could not resist having a repeat session with Becky today. But it ended up the same as yesterday. So sexy and attractive when outside, but just could not get any chemistry with her in the room. Service was again satisfactory, and she pleasantly did not try any upselling. She would be a clear recommendation for a stress-free optifuck; just no hope for GFE.

Ended the evening with a new girl called Alma. Nice GND look, sweet face, short slim body with soft squeezy boobs. Opposite to Becky, she delivered passionate service in the room with no upselling, and was a joy to talk to. Definitely repeatable.

I spotted yet another migrant from World. This was the tall skinny blonde Natalie with thick glasses who had been a regular at World for some years. At this rate, most of the World long-timers will be at Sharks soon.

[Zumboit]

The bar is open and beautiful. Looks great, 3 friendly bargirls kept drinks flowing.

My first time back to FKK in a year, longer since I was at Sharks. I always liked Mainhattan, finding enough choices to satisfy me most nights. But that was Donna and the good old days. Reviews have been so bad lately I decided to move to Sharks.

So glad I did. I had a great night Friday August 30th, first day of the new bar.

Being away so long there.

Was a lot of anticipation and fantasies bouncing around my two heads. Really seemed like all I could think about. Aside from being discreet about the actual visit, luckily no one in my daily life can read my mind.

So as an experienced, though not frequent FKK visitor, I know how to make my way around without getting upsold much.

Promising myself to look all around before going to a room, I broke down after 20 steps in and just couldn't say no to Yella or Sella, dark, redbrown pony tail, gorgeous body, thin not skinny, curvy just right, nice face. Not your GND more like the hot cool chick up the street who never noticed me.

I had a great time, agreed 1 hour for 100 E, Nice energetic cowgirl, great soft natural blowjob, funny talkative, and oh what a sight in the fully mirrored room downstairs. Seeing and feeling such a pretty girl with great bod slurping away at my dick was heaven. I hadn't planned on DATY but her pussy was so beautiful I couldn't resist.

2nd, Natalia, was a mistake, I was staring at her body instead of her face, which I like to be kind, intelligent pretty and funny, I quickly agreed to a room though I made clear it was 30 for 50 and BBBJ. She tried to upsell me in the room, saying it would be 100 with BBBJ. I wouldn't budge, was ready to walk, but she said OK and started in. Really shitty BJ, just didn't feel half as good as Yella just a bit earlier. And she bitched through the whole session about how she shouldn't be doing BBBJ for 50. I finally shut her up by promising to cum in her mouth tomorrow, though in fact I'm off to Oase tomorrow. Was that unethical of me? Left feeling kind of down wondering if I would have anyone else really special.

Stared at Michelle a long time before I walked over to talk. I just really liked looking at her standing naked, so free and beautiful. Tallish, skinny but just right, be cups with nice shape, she is my type of girl. 27 but looks 19-23. According to her, ex Globe, just two weeks at Sharks. Flower tattoo between her breasts which almost put me off, but she is so lovely. Discreet braces on teeth. Some kind of cross between earnest student and young professional. Room was fun, no rush, I told her from the start 1 HR+CIM possibly, so she did her upmost to please, nice DFK, though not mentioned beforehand. Had the mirrored room again, not hot after 10 pm. She knew to use the room to her advantage, positioning herself so I'd have a great view of her BJ and exquisite site of her ass and pussy in the air, such a beauty. Asked if she'd give me a show at CIM time, and she didn't hold back, continuing to suck my cock well after I was finished, licking my dick showing me her lovely mouth overflowing with my cum. 10/10 for being my perfect fantasy cum alive.

After being twice spent, money and cum, I had a nice talk with Becky offering her 20 E for 10 minutes as that was truly all the money I had left. No go. Oh well, always worth a try. I have to call her adorable with her short black hair and tall, thin, tight body. She will live in memory as the one that got away. A recent review called her lackluster, anyone else have another experience?

Great Sharks day. FKK such a wonderful amazing experience. Saturday night to Oase hopefully in just before 4 for discount.

[Der Auslander]

The renovation of the bar is finished. Today (Friday) in the late afternoon and early evening, the bar slowly slowly became functional again.

Good to know. Thanks Nick.

[Nick The G]

The renovation of the bar is finished. Today (Friday) in the late afternoon and early evening, the bar slowly slowly became functional again.

[Ortos]

It would be more interesting for the forum if you would be so kind to respond to Ortos request to you. I repeat it here for your convenience:

"So I'd love to read your comments and analysis about whether there has been significant and across-the-board changes in the pricing for 1 hour sessions for 100 e. ".

"Took the words right out of my fcking mouth!" A line uttered by James Belushi during the penultimate episode of "Twin Peaks: A Limited Series Event. "