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  1. #20003
    Quote Originally Posted by IndusMint  [View Original Post]
    I wanted to contribute on PM but your inbox is full.
    Done bro cleared. Moscow another option too.

  2. #20002

    Kiev

    Quote Originally Posted by DrGut  [View Original Post]
    Hi guys,

    Planning to trip to Kiev with 4 of my guy friends for partying and mongering. Good I read this forum. It kinda looks dry? Is that true? Any other cities / countries you can recommend. Warsaw, Baku, tel Aviv?

    We are basically looking for chilling during the day (some adventure activities, nice lunches) and then partying at night at some clubs. Then hopefully getting some girls back to our apartment (paid of course) 3-4 of them and then having a small party and banging. If we can get some working girls at the clubs tom.

    Party with us it would be awesome and some good strip clubs but would be a bonus. We have to finalize in the next week. Your contributions will be very helpful. Cheers guy
    s thanks.
    I wanted to contribute on PM but your inbox is full.

  3. #20001
    PM me for this week. Is good to try wingman game.

    Quote Originally Posted by JustMe7  [View Original Post]
    Hi man,

    I'm going to be there this this week too. Was wondering if you are looking for a wing man.

  4. #20000
    I tried posting 2 passport copies of the same girl with different names. Just wanted to show what these girls are up to and the extent to which they stretch themselves to make $$ But the site admin has deleted them and I have been warned rightly so.

    For me Ukrainian girls are extremely hot and beautiful and they know the entire world wants them and so they get away with anything and everything, they are extremely lazy and evade from doing any hard work.

    On the other hand Russian girls from the same beauty family a notch lower though but I find them hard working and less scrupulous and scammers. Be careful that's it.

    Quote Originally Posted by SloPhoto1990  [View Original Post]
    Can you please expand on that last sentence. I am visiting Kiev for some fun with girls soon and safety is one of the questions I have about that.

  5. #19999
    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbyman6969  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    I have visited Kiev last year (Sep 2018) and I'll go over my mongering game plan at that time.

    I was there for 1 week Thursday to Wednesday of the following week. My goal was to try out my normal game and if all else fails.

    I would pick up some hookers. I'm over 40, however; I look like I'm late 20's to early 30's. I stayed at a hotel in arena city.

    1. I went to Caribbean club on Thursday and talked to 4 girls total that weren't hookers and bought drinks and tried to mingle.

    They had good English, seemed a bit older. Maybe late 20's to early 30's. They all seemed to enjoy the drinks and wonder off after talking for a bit..
    Hi man,

    I'm going to be there this this week too. Was wondering if you are looking for a wing man.

  6. #19998

    The real price

    Who pays for those prices? Unsuspecting tourists that forgot how to think with the right head. You got severely scammed. Your 66000 UAH could have bought you 3 sessions with your flight attendant at "brothel number 4". Still, I would suggest to use semi-pros, girls whose regular job is something else. They are more appreciative of good sex and they know the value of money. I prefer it when I am the only person they have had sex that day. Of course, on never knows, but with pros, you definitely know that some guy was there as little as one hour ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by Habeed  [View Original Post]
    Here's what I have found so far on my recent trip, this week:

    ......

    Be. I have been to Paradise Cabaret. Ultimate rip-off. 700 UAH just to enter. I sit down, check out their menu. What sounds like a regular lap dance, for "7-9 minutes", is 60 fucking dollars. That would be a ripoff price in the USA, who do they expect to pay this? Some hot stripper hit the stage, I asked to meet her, she sat with me. She kept pushing me to buy something to eat or drink together. 3300 UAH, or $130 for a meal or about the same for some wine. These are marginal prices even in the USA, who the fuck pays for services at this club?.

  7. #19997

    Kiev

    Hi guys,

    Planning to trip to Kiev with 4 of my guy friends for partying and mongering. Good I read this forum. It kinda looks dry? Is that true? Any other cities / countries you can recommend. Warsaw, Baku, tel Aviv?

    We are basically looking for chilling during the day (some adventure activities, nice lunches) and then partying at night at some clubs. Then hopefully getting some girls back to our apartment (paid of course) 3-4 of them and then having a small party and banging. If we can get some working girls at the clubs tom.

    Party with us it would be awesome and some good strip clubs but would be a bonus. We have to finalize in the next week. Your contributions will be very helpful. Cheers guys thanks.

  8. #19996
    I am also going to be in Kiev again this second week of Sept. In previous visit this year I have been the places you mention Caribbean, Rio and a few others such Dolls, Princess as well as other hip bars / clubs and lounges such as Queens for example. I confirm similar experiences & views to what you report. My profile also similar to yours in age and tastes. Now that you have previous experience your second visit plan looks good and can give more results. PM for more comments and / or exchanging tips.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbyman6969  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    I have visited Kiev last year (Sep 2018) and I'll go over my mongering game plan at that time.

    I was there for 1 week Thursday to Wednesday of the following week. My goal was to try out my normal game and if all else fails.

    I would pick up some hookers. I'm over 40, however; I look like I'm late 20's to early 30's. I stayed at a hotel in arena city.

    1. I went to Caribbean club on Thursday and talked to 4 girls total that weren't hookers and bought drinks and tried to mingle..

  9. #19995

    Going down memory lane in Kiev.

    Quote Originally Posted by Waryman  [View Original Post]
    Hello all,

    A bit late maybe, but as I always do I try to make a brief report of my travels.

    A) Streetwalkers:

    To be found after passing the "Victory Avenue" once you past the Shevchenko blvd near the zoo.

    Not too many and of varied quality and price (400-500 UAH/hour). best days on weekends around midnight. If interested just ask a taxi driver.

    B) Riverpalace:.
    This board ISG is such an excellent Source of info and also a great resource to Jog memories to exercise the Mind.

    At the time more than 10 Years ago, it Was Salons and More Salons, as referred to above in the excellent report of Distinction, Now it's " Apartments or Secret Apartments ".

  10. #19994
    Quote Originally Posted by Habeed  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone tried Seeking Arrangement in Kiev?

    It looks promising. Of course, one problem is that girls on this site may have unrealistic expectations, wanting USA level compensation, which would be stupid to offer them.
    Similar experience here. I also just have a free account and will not pay a (recurring) $90 per month, because I do not find that to be a realistic price. So I've never met a girl from SA.

    So much money for a subscription could be used just to hire some ghost writers. Who knows. I just find the number of profiles in perfect English quite high.

    The good thing for tourists and expats is that profiles are in English and expectations are usually well laid out. I think that you need to be very (extremely) rich to play in that league, and that alone can attract some dodgy behavior on the other side. Maybe a case of no risk, no fun", bit my advice is to be mindful of that.

  11. #19993
    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbyman6969  [View Original Post]
    Hi,.

    Backup plan is hookers / escorts. I'm into tall athletic girls to petite girls, I have a preference for blondes.

    I might try Rio stripclub again probably last 2 days if all else fails as I can actually see what they look like. Is there any other better strip clubs in Kiev? The bait and switch escort sites I keep reading on here turn me off as.

    I don't want to waste time on fatties arriving at my airbnb.
    So far I have found the "secret" apartment brothels are by far the best value. (short of setting up a long term relationship with an independent) There is no risk of the fatties, because you can see the girls in the line up (and just leave if none of them fit your taste, I have left quite a few lineups). The way to find them is to either PM me and I can give you the addresses, or just go to Arena city, and find Alexi or one of the other brothel touts. Super easy to find, literally just walk in there through the entry way and touts will ask if you want to see the girls.

    There is a brothel in arena city itself. It sucks, don't go there, but there's more apartments outside.

  12. #19992
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperLove  [View Original Post]
    I am a silent reader and follower of the Ukraine forum, I believe Ukrainian girls are the best looking girls in the world and there is no match. Stand by the McDonalds at Khreshatyk street and one can see pure drop dead gorgeous by the second. Some of them are amazing in bed while others are just plain dead fish more of the latter. When there is so much beauty there comes a negative side too. I find them lazy and they do not wish to work and rely on their looks, nothing wrong in there but most if not all want to make quick buck through scams / cheating. I have banged various chicks from multiple cities of Ukraine like Kiev, Kirovograd, Sumy. Kharkiv is a nice university area but almost all are involved in scams. Just see the below and one can understand what I am trying to say. Just be careful with Ukrainian chicks when dealing with $$ keep banging and make them scream in bed. Stay safe.
    Can you please expand on that last sentence. I am visiting Kiev for some fun with girls soon and safety is one of the questions I have about that.

  13. #19991
    Quote Originally Posted by Habeed  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone tried Seeking Arrangement in Kiev? I checked, there's a large number of girls (several hundred), and the fee seems to be still $90, which creates a barrier to entry. I don't have enough days remaining on this trip to invest that much, but I have noticed a huge response rate. (you get a certain number of free messages with a free account). Much higher than SA in the USA. And there's no need to filter by body type. I haven't seen a fat girl on SA yet, and girls that consider themselves "average" are still skinny by USA standards.

    It looks promising. Of course, one problem is that girls on this site may have unrealistic expectations, wanting USA level compensation, which would be stupid to offer them.
    Tried SA on my last trip. Not worth it.

    The charges are hilarious, and service would be very restricted.

    Out of 3 girls I met, only one was worth the effort and cost.

  14. #19990
    Matches my point of view to the dot. Well said.

    Quote Originally Posted by PhotoSlider  [View Original Post]
    Rio bouncers are a little more reserved due to line of business they are in. At Avalon I treat waiters and bouncers as human beings, and they helped me more than once in anything from finding a good tailor for minor dress short repair before going to Theater, to simply greeting me with sincere respect when I walk in with a new lady at my hand. I certainly do not walk by passing them as a piece of furniture. No need to assert me that way. I wouldn't say it changes anything radically, but it doesn't hurt. Waiters do not try to offer the most expensive meal, and hostesses at the roof top terrace always find a table, even without extra cash slipped in their hand on Friday night when the venue is full.

    To each his own. Avalon staff will not be offended, and will provide excellent service in the background, when guests are busy and ignore them. They are trained not to intrude when privacy is required during conversation or more intimate things with a lady, like a tender or even more passionate kiss. I didn't see going for more there. Upper 7th floor terrace has gazebo tents with curtains for even more protection from unwanted curiosity. I never paid for those, and ladies love staying inside when the night is pleasant and romance is in the air.

  15. #19989

    Scams in Ukraine

    I am a silent reader and follower of the Ukraine forum, I believe Ukrainian girls are the best looking girls in the world and there is no match. Stand by the McDonalds at Khreshatyk street and one can see pure drop dead gorgeous by the second. Some of them are amazing in bed while others are just plain dead fish more of the latter. When there is so much beauty there comes a negative side too. I find them lazy and they do not wish to work and rely on their looks, nothing wrong in there but most if not all want to make quick buck through scams / cheating. I have banged various chicks from multiple cities of Ukraine like Kiev, Kirovograd, Sumy. Kharkiv is a nice university area but almost all are involved in scams. Just see the below and one can understand what I am trying to say. Just be careful with Ukrainian chicks when dealing with $$ keep banging and make them scream in bed. Stay safe.

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