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[Downandup]

I think that had heard that there is website that lists the one ups at various clubs. Does this exist?

Nope, there's one site out there but it's only for Babylon in Cologne. I hear that the operators created a separate site for separation of the girls from the FKK, it's a legal thing to make it not look like the girls are employees but independent contractors.

[Polyamorist]

- We know from the double slit experiment that things do not exist as matter before we observe it,

Indeed, FKK addicts are very familiar with this effect: if you look through a double slit (majora / menora) you will see a lot of moisture that didn't exist before you started leering. Sex works with emotion like photosynthesis works with light, making something out of nothing. Without this life energy, our spirits are left anemic.

[PlainsMen]

I think that had heard that there is website that lists the one ups at various clubs. Does this exist?

[Steve 9696]

Go to Oase or Sharks.

Ah yeah. What he said.

[Neurosynth]

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- We know from the double slit experiment that things do not exist as matter before we observe it, so the universe springs forth from the quantum realm, and from the mind, and not the other way around. So either we live in a simulation already, or there is some sort of pan hippie god we all are a part of. It is surely one of the two. And the simulation theory is by far the least wack. But is it single, or multi player? Or are some other beings players, while others are npc's? And how can we differentiate?

Like so many of your off-topic posts, this one makes claims that are either known to be false, or are so speculative that they didn't deserve to leave the cannabis-smoke filled dorm room where they were birthed.

For example, the notion that *human* observation brings objects into existence totally misunderstands the term "observation" from the POV of quantum mechanics. In that context an "observation" is any interaction between an object that is in quantum superposition with one that is not.

After all, our species has only been around for 300,000 years or less. Does anyone believe that the universe merely appears to be 14 billion years, but in reality the universe appeared out of nothing when man first appeared on the scene to "observe" it? It's absurd. How did man appear on a scene that didn't exist yet?

Nonsense.

[Akibono]

Hi everybody,

I have trip next week. I will be in Koln. I went Samya before and I want to see some new clubs.

My first alternative is golden time. But I read some bed comment for this club. In door security is not accept all countries costumer. Is this true? And also this is a risk for me.

My second alternative is going to Frankfurt. Which club do you advise in Frankfurt?

Thanks for all replies.

Go to Oase or Sharks.

[Pistons]

I didn't say it was impossible. I said it was impossible within 10 years. As for whether some people will, someday, want to have millions of wires implanted into their brains just so they can enhance masturbation . . . well it takes all kinds I suppose.

Becoming a million times smarter is probably just as much of a reason though. Or being able to move stuff with your mind. With foglets, we'll literally become gods. But not without a BMI.

Either way, the added sex is probably more like a selling point when the main goal is to hack our minds, LOL!

But philosophically speaking, calling it masturbation, poses some questions:

- If we cannot differentiate physically between it, and real sex with another person, is it really masturbation?

- What if we are already hooked up to The Matrix? And everyone around us are just NPC's? Are all of what we have considered to be sex, only just masturbation too?

- We know from the double slit experiment that things do not exist as matter before we observe it, so the universe springs forth from the quantum realm, and from the mind, and not the other way around. So either we live in a simulation already, or there is some sort of pan hippie god we all are a part of. It is surely one of the two. And the simulation theory is by far the least wack. But is it single, or multi player? Or are some other beings players, while others are npc's? And how can we differentiate?

- This is the same mind experiment we can use when considering other ISG posters use of VPN's and multiple accounts. We have no way of determining if they exist or not in our little Hilbert space here, when only reading the posts on the internet. At least before we meet them and observe them meddle with a VPN on their laptop and recognize their way of writing and / or speaking from how they type. So, if you have ever fucked two different girls, and they seemingly fuck in the same way, how do you know this is not just some 14 year old boy having rolled two different female characters on his laptop, while playing The Matrix?

[LionKingg]

Hi everybody,

I have trip next week. I will be in Koln. I went Samya before and I want to see some new clubs.

My first alternative is golden time. But I read some bed comment for this club. In door security is not accept all countries costumer. Is this true? And also this is a risk for me.

My second alternative is going to Frankfurt. Which club do you advise in Frankfurt?

Thanks for all replies.

[Pessimist]

This post is about sugar baby. If any reader is not interested in it, please skip or ignore it. If any potential poster wants to post something on other topic here, please go ahead to post it because I don't want to hijack this thread.

Pessimist,

As I wrote, I never paid more than 200 euro per hour and all of my meets lasted no more than one hour, therefore all of my meets costed no more than 200 euro per meet. So there was no discount given to 80-euro sessions which were the price for the future sessions without any expectations of extra payments.

I would like to share some of my tactics and strategy with you and other readers as follows and perhaps they would help you and other readers lower the cost of your future meeting..

Thanks for sharing your techniques. I think we do indeed have many commonalities. Good luck in your endeavors.

[Neurosynth]

There is nothing in your post which is impossible. Bandwidth? Moore's laws continuation with the new 3 the circuitry, predominantly using nanotubes will solve that problem.

100 wires? Try thousands of wires, or millions, and mathematical geometrics to fine tune it.

I didn't say it was impossible. I said it was impossible within 10 years. As for whether some people will, someday, want to have millions of wires implanted into their brains just so they can enhance masturbation . . . well it takes all kinds I suppose.

[Bfsie]

This post is about sugar baby. If any reader is not interested in it, please skip or ignore it. If any potential poster wants to post something on other topic here, please go ahead to post it because I don't want to hijack this thread.

Pessimist,

As I wrote, I never paid more than 200 euro per hour and all of my meets lasted no more than one hour, therefore all of my meets costed no more than 200 euro per meet. So there was no discount given to 80-euro sessions which were the price for the future sessions without any expectations of extra payments.

I would like to share some of my tactics and strategy with you and other readers as follows and perhaps they would help you and other readers lower the cost of your future meeting.

1. Advertise yourself as a multi-millionaire with a lot of financial promises to potential sugarbabies.

2. Always insist to have a free coffee meeting before any sex meet.

3. Size her up during the coffee meeting to estimate how much she would accept for the first meet.

4. Always promise her in the coffee meeting you will see her on a regular basis and pay her more if sex is good, but first sex meet is only for getting familiar with each other and seeing how compatible you are sex-wide, so you only want to pay the price for one-hour meeting. For example, if the price in your area is $600 per meet which usually last 3-4 hours, you only want one-hour meet and pay $200 (or lower depends on your estimate of her in the coffee meeting) for the first sex meet.

And so on.

If you or any other readers are interested to know more tricks, I will be happy to post in my next post.

One thing is very important for any reader who is interested in getting into this sugarbaby business. If you want to get better prices like one-hour meet price I mentioned above or even get any sex meeting, you have to be doable in her eyes and with some sophistication.

[Sirioja]

No wow for me at Globe on this Summer and when I read tagesplan, even Globe would be the closest from my climbing, but I don t go and preferred my girls at Samya or even at Gold Ratingen. Big fall compare to Summer 2018 when Globe was on top. Maybe only worth now for public sex, lack of pretty faces and chic.

[Bobolino]

Just finished my 3 days trip Sharks+Globe+Palace.

Sharks was as usual, some new addition to the LU and some are there for ages.

Had a room with Monika which was surprisingly disappointing, my senses are not as they were. Next day in Globe ZH, after a two years absence still a big wow, hands down any experience in DE. It was a Tuesday when all the rooms are closed and public action rules, including the guy who sat on a strapon that was attached to a the girl below him, public action.

Palace is ready for the Messe, girl are walking in couples offering trio as a basic service, Had a nice room with Claudia.

God bless FKK!

[Pessimist]

Hello Mr. BFsie,

If the 80 euro session was obtained after several meetings with a given girl, then it is a different calculation. I'm not privy to all your SB history (not that I am curious) but that particular meet you listed can't be accurately characterized as a stand-alone 80 for half-hour sugarbabe session because She Perhaps was giving a discount based on the past or expectations of future payments.

Here, weekly and monthly SB arrangements are quite common and we may agree to meeting a couple of times a week but if I meet the girl for a third session in a week, she will charge nothing even if a third meet in the week is not agreed upon originally. I would not characterize that as obtaining free sex with the SB.

I agree completely about the economic disparity. In your neighborhood you can legally walk into a FKK and fuck for 50. We have no such avenue, at least not of equally comparable quality.

I know you said the two continents are similar or the same and I respect your view. I personally don't know anything about the European SB market and can make zero claims about it — whether it is similar to the US or different. In my experience, there are large differences between sugar babes within different cities in the US alone, leaveaside EU. This is very much a free lancer market and every girl sets her own price and there is a large range of expectations. The price range is getting narrower but still a large enough range.

I hardly ever argue much with a girl over price. If a girl asks for too high of allowance amount, I wish her good luck and move on. No arguing, not much bargaining, nothing. There are so many other girls, why waste time on one?

I can't even claim all FKK clubs are similar or the same even though we have club owners enforcing similar pricing across the land. In the sugar babe market, there is no such thing. I myself have paid varying amounts to different girls within my own city, and different amounts to girls in other cities.

If anyone has been able to obtain any fuck sessions for less than 150 (regardless of how much time) with a good looking young white chick on the US on sugarbabe sites, they are welcome to post the experience. I have not seen it first hand. Our SB sessions generally follow a Costco model, which is a longer session, all goodies included, and a bigger amount. Again this is my experience.

Anyway, I realize you are trying to be and being very helpful sharing your experiences and thank you.

[Pistons]

The target in your prediction is vague enough that I suppose you can try to wriggle around to justify it. I was addressing the specific ideas that (1) physical robots could provide a subjective experience that could be mistaken for that with a physical human, or (2) that a direct brain connection could allow a computer to synthesize a subjective experience that could be mistaken for that with a physical human.

People, of course, already make physical objects that can deliver a satisfying sexual response. Dildos have been around for hundreds (thousands?) of years. But those are satisfying sexual experiences that would never be mistaken for a human / human encounter. Ditto for current "sex dolls" and so on.

Haptics would be among the technologies required for (1). For (2) by definition haptics or other stimulation of neurons outside of the brain would not be used. But the current technology requires the implantation of hundreds of tiny wires into the brain itself. And even the direct stimulation of hundreds of neurons lacks the data bandwidth to deliver the full range of vision, sound, taste, touch, and smell required to make that experience indistinguishable from, or equivalent to, daily real world experience. In addition, there is little to no understanding as to how to map an intended experience to be delivered into the specific signals sent artificially to specific points of brain contact..

There is nothing in your post which is impossible. Bandwidth? Moore's laws continuation with the new 3 the circuitry, predominantly using nanotubes will solve that problem.

100 wires? Try thousands of wires, or millions, and mathematical geometrics to fine tune it.

What you refer to at the end there is more of a user interface question. Most likely something we will figure out how to solve by studying the brain further. But in order to do so, we need big data. From something like Neuralink, or other similar companies. So the first generation is very important for that information gathering. Worst case: we still need to move around in a small enclosed room with a vr headset on. Yet, the sense out touch itself can be the only thing fooled through the brain machine interface, while the rest is like we have it already.