Budapest

[Bts23]

I usually like your posts and reviews very much (and in general I appreciate your contribution to the forum), but here we have a disagreement for sure. The first element is even kind of personal, as reading your reply I had the feeling that it was aimed at an exponent of the agency business, which I'm certainly not. Quite the contrary in fact, as I have never applied to any agencies or middlemen to arrange a paid sex date for myself, nor have I ever encouraged anyone to do so. You can also check that my first advice to newbies is always directing them to the "Tips for mongering in Budapest" thread..

You did state that Showgirls VIP was "more or less OK" which could be taken as an endorsement of their agency. I was merely pointing out that I definitely disagreed with that and I provided a very detailed explanation why I did. There was nothing personal towards you intended in my comments. You seem like a nice guy and you generally offer opinions or advice that I agree with.

The tips for mongering was helpful when it was first written, but now there is advice that in a few cases is confusing and contradictory on several points. Two experienced guys write to avoid agencies, but then there is a link (see below) which shows websites for 50 different agencies including some that we know use fake photos and misleading advertisements. Two experienced guys also say to avoid streetwalkers, but then there is a long detailed post about how to pickup streetwalkers.

https://openadultdirectory.com/escorts/Hungary/

A very common question on this thread is people asking for reliable agencies, high quality agencies, or some variation of that same theme. The consensus on here has always been is that they don't exist in Budapest. I have seen nothing presented on the forum recently that would change that answer. Yes, I realize that not everyone wants to see girls on the two main websites that most of us recommend. However, there is nothing wrong with providing realistic and helpful advice about both options (agencies vs independent advertisers on Besz and Rossz).

Here is a good example of how you someone can benefit from useful advice on here that is presented in a way that lets the individual decide what is the best option for them. A guy asked about having sex with a girl from a strip club. He was given plenty of good advice explaining why to avoid strip clubs in Budapest, but if he still wanted to visit one for "entertainment" purposes (not sex) that there were a few that were considered somewhat safe. He was also given advice about the girls on the two websites that we recommend. He decided to see one of the most popular ladies on Beszamolok and was quite happy with his experience. Check out his post below - #4591.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...pest&p=2199444#post2199444.

[Questner]

Strip clubs in Budapest are certainly not brothels, as this website claims. It has already been explained on here numerous times (including to the guy that posted this link) why they should be avoided.

Everyone makes his own decisions in life on how to have fun. I will never limit myself to punching telephone numbers or drooling over faked escort pictures. I like to go out and have fun with whatever life brings, and so far I can talk face to face with girls at clubs, bars or street and ask them for their company. I don't promote any website, any provider, or claim to be a local or expat with complete knowledge of the scene. The only regret you can have in life in not taking chances and let fun slip through.

[Hilvar]

And the pattern is very similar to me in the case of (actual or graduated) college girls working as part-time sexworkers and other niche opportunities in the mongering scene (only with the difference that I would never apply to agencies myself, while I would consider some of these opportunities, especially if I were a foreign newbie in Budapest having a generous, yet at the same time reasonable budget) But I have already unfolded my position about it earlier in several posts, so I won't tire the audience with that again in detail. I would only come back to one aspect here, directly replying to this.

I really don't understand why girls with their own websites that work part time would be any different, again I am not claiming they are all bad, but with no objective feedback it is nothing more than an educated guess (at best). I have met girls that are part time escorts on Rosszlaynok, but I am not sure that the fact that they work part time is a defining characteristic that necessarily leads to a very good or great experience.

Of course if you only change one parameter, that probably won't lead to a revolutionary change in the service. If you meet a regular girl from rosszlanyok, who happens to work less working hours a week than other girls (something we can call part-time), but in the usual framework and under the usual circumstances of the mainstream market segment, then the service will probably remain very similar to the standards as well (however, the price won't differ too much either, so in this case the term "part-time" is not a defining characteristic in any sense, I can agree with that). But I was talking about something else, and I insist that there may be a different type of service that even the best "standard girls" won't be able to offer (again I don't want to repeat myself, perhaps the best description about it is in the last paragraph of my post #5373). And I would probably not pay the rates of this special service in Budapest, which I know well and even feel like my home ground by now, but if I were on a one-off business trip there, I would perhaps consider a dinner date with a girl, with whom, in addition to very good sex of course, I can also talk about the the city and local curiosities (and perhaps many other topics) in fluent English and cultured manner at a fancy restaurant, and then walk along the Danube to my hotel without the unpleasant feeling that everyone knows we are sexworker and client (let's call it GFE advanced level). And let me remind you, we're not talking about astronomical prices, as a girl like that (if you can find one) usually works at an hourly rate of 150-180 euros, which is yes, significantly higher than the average rate, but in a fortunate case the service you get is significantly different from the average as well. (I mean, "exploiting the prices in Budapest" can of course come simply from paying half or even less of the price you should pay at home for a standard service, but you can have the same feeling after paying the latter price but getting much more for it). However, in my view this is not a question of "Skoda vs. Lambo" (it's been an analogy used in a similar recent debate in the Prague thread), but rather choosing the restaurant for a dinner, when having a good meal is a requirement by all means, but I can decide if I would like to pay extra money for a more complex experience (nice view on the Danube and the Castle, good live jazz music, some special delicacies on the menu etc). And it's partly a question of personal budget of course, but not necessarily and not exclusively that, as even in the case of the same person: when visiting a foreign city I may take different decisions on the same trip and within a couple of days, whether I would like to have those extras (and pay for them) or not.

[Hilvar]

I have to say that we will definitely have to agree to disagree on the opinion that Showgirls is more or less OK. Read the FAQs and see what they promise versus what they delivered.

https://showgirlsvipescort.com/faq.php

What value is an agency adding to the process other than a person that speaks English who responds to an email or a phone call? Almost everything else they promise isn't true. Whether or not you have a good experience is based mostly on luck.

You absolutely should compare it to the "regular" market since that is the primary alternative choice. I am not suggesting that everyone that visits Budapest should only visit girls that advertise on Beszalomok or Rosszylanok, however they are the most reliable sources for guys that want to have a reasonably good opportunity for success.

I don't know mean to be critical of TMonk's opinions, however guys can see the same girl and have similar experiences, but report completely different levels of satisfaction based on how it compares to prices in other cities or their expectations. The benefit of reading many reviews for a girl that advertises on one of the two websites is that if they are written with a decent amount of detail and objectivity they can give you a reasonable expectation of the type of experience that you can have with that girl. Although nothing is guaranteed and there can be YMMV with some girls more than others, but that certainly is not something that is unique to Budapest.

I usually like your posts and reviews very much (and in general I appreciate your contribution to the forum), but here we have a disagreement for sure. The first element is even kind of personal, as reading your reply I had the feeling that it was aimed at an exponent of the agency business, which I'm certainly not. Quite the contrary in fact, as I have never applied to any agencies or middlemen to arrange a paid sex date for myself, nor have I ever encouraged anyone to do so. You can also check that my first advice to newbies is always directing them to the "Tips for mongering in Budapest" thread.

But I see a more substantive disagreement as well, as there are still quite a lot of people, including TMonk, who just don't feel comfortable enough to follow that guide, quoting reasons that they don't speak the language, don't feel how to get around in such a foreign environment to them, or simply prefer hosting the girl to getting lost among undecipherable Hungarian street names, because it makes them feel a little bit more in control, etc. (And they usually add that they rather accept the higher rates on the other hand, because they feel them still affordable compared to the prices in their native country) And when it seems that you cannot head someone off from the agencies, it makes sense to help him find the better ones, so that at least he could get the most correct service possible for the lot of money he's ready to pay out (even if it's not easy of course, given all the circumstances).

However, it is true that in the actual case I was a bit superficial and I accepted the monger's evaluation of having met once the girl on the pictures, and in the second case a girl though different from the photos, but who was very similar (and that he was satisfied with the service in both cases), because upon the posts of other members it seems that the agency in question is using generally fake pictures.

[Hilvar]

For me, sex is a form of communication. If you can't communicate with a normal and stable person on a phone, SMS, Viber or WhatsUp you can't expect satisfying sex.

During my last trip in Budapest I called the girls below. Short information is provided. The information is current (end of August-beginning of September 2019).

A weird post indeed, and your style and approach so alien to me that I could hardly find a common denomination even to discuss it. Only one concrete remark: I would not consider a girl like Rubi myself, but I remembered her name from a "girls below 20 k HUF" list, and after checking her ad, the automatic answering function immediately gives an 18 k rate for an hour (compared to the 25 k in your post).

[Attila Andor]

This pornstar escort site that lists names like Nelly Kent, Mia Evans, Alyssia Kent, among others, I've texted them on two listed numbers, I've raised hell on their Twitter account, I've filled out their online forms, all repeatedly. Nobody answers.

I emailed them once and got a bounce message that the user's email box was full.

I've already set aside 1. 5 days in Budapest in 2 weeks for the bucket list goal of session with a pornstar.

I guess I could break down, get some bit coins, get a membership and PM this Drago fellow see what he suggests.

I would really suggest you setting up a meet with Shona River, she's hands-down the best you can get out of a pornstar experience.

You can contact her on directly on her email or just check her official Twitter for other contact info.

[Bts23]

https://brothel-in.com/budapest/

Strip clubs in Budapest are certainly not brothels, as this website claims. It has already been explained on here numerous times (including to the guy that posted this link) why they should be avoided.

[Bts23]

For me, sex is a form of communication. If you can't communicate with a normal and stable person on a phone, SMS, Viber or WhatsUp you can't expect satisfying sex.

During my last trip in Budapest I called the girls below. Short information is provided. The information is current (end of August-beginning of September 2019).

Fanny21.

https://rosszlanyok.hu/rosszlanyok.p...-data&id=53219

I got her on the phone first time. She answered the phone and quoted 20,000 HUF for 1 h but was not available for that day. Proposed to call her for the next day. Called her the next day, she proposed her friend Cintia19. I declined that proposal. She asked me to call her next day from 11 am. I did that, she answered but she was still not available for that day. I called one more time the next day at around 11:30 am, when she completely flipped out and told me loudly screaming:"Don't call me back. Thank you". In my book she is a mental case. Also, the first time I called her, she said that her place is about 20-25 min. From downtown. So, she is not in XIV district as her ad says, but in XVIII district as other reviewers on rosszlanyok pointed out. If you add the transportation cost which would be around (10000-15000 HUF) you get a mental case for about EUR 100. Avoid.

Noemi.

https://rosszlanyok.hu/noemi

I sent her a message on the phone. I got relatively fast reply from her that the price is 30,000 HUF for 1 h. She was replying to my SMS messages. She is a reliable, stable person. It's all about the communication. I would try her on my next trip.

I have to say that this is one of the strangest posts that I have ever read on this forum. You have written a long detailed post about contacting 15 women in Budapest, but you didn't meet a single one? Then you make recommendations or tell us to avoid certain women based on contacts that you made with them by phone or by messages. You also claim that you can evaluate and determine by their responses whether they are "normal and stable". Besides the fact that any rational person would find this to be an impossible task, sometimes women will answer calls or respond to messages for another lady if she is busy with a customer. So you may not even be communicating with the lady that you think that you are.

There are pros and cons about almost every city on this forum. One of the negatives about Budapest is that communication with some women can be difficult and their availability can be very unpredictable. So if you expect immediate responses from every lady that you contact and that all of them are going to be excited to meet you, then you are being completely unrealistic. Since you mentioned in your post 8 separate times that "it's all about the communication", obviously you know that communication is a two way street. Popular well reviewed women get contacted by guys all day long and have plenty of customers to chose from, so some only make appointments by phone because they are listening to you to determine if they think you will be a difficult or an undesirable customer (based on their past experiences). This is quite different from other places where the communication and screening is usually handled by a third party.

Also it would be wise to pay close attention to what they write in their messages. For example Noemi also advertises on Beszamolok and if you read her recent reviews, you will see that she charges 20,000 HUF per hour and not the 30,000 HUF that you she quoted you. Some women are quick to respond to foreigners because they assume that they will be happy to pay higher than normal prices since the "normal" prices in Budapest are much lower compared to other cities.

https://beszamolok.com/szexpartner/1...r-no-703401311

I know Fanny quite well and have visited her many times over the last 1 1/2 years. I agree with SammyT and Kk989 that she is fantastic and I have never had a problem booking her with a same day appointment, even though she is very popular. In fact, a few times she missed my call when I tried to contact her in the morning and she contacted me by Viber a few minutes later to set up an appointment.

Also Fanny does not work in District 18, but she has always worked in District 14. The guy (not multiple guys as you suggested) that wrote that review that said District 18 made a typo in his review because the rest of his description of her place and the neighborhood where her apartment is located match the place that I have visited. She charges 20,000 HUF (approximately 60 Euros), not the 100 Euro cost that you claimed in your post. If you don't want to take a taxi to her apartment, you can take a bus for a nominal cost that has a stop a few minutes from her place.

My experiences have been quite different from yours. Some of the most difficult women to contact have been some of the best ones that I have visited. Popular women are not always easy to book for a good reason and some are not in this profession full time or only advertise sporadically. I agree that communication and first impressions are important, but most "normal" guys place a much higher weight on a woman's attitude, looks, and sexual skills which can only be evaluated when you actually meet them!

[Savodat]

Anyone good in district viii for outcall?

[DreamK]

Formerly retired pornstar is advertising her world tour in Twitter and onlyfans page.

Anyone have experienced booking her using Onlyfans?

Never used onlyfans so I can not comment on that, but she has Instagram and Twitter profiles and she had previously also Hotmail email address visible so people could contact directly about bookings so I know she do escorts too. I can not write that email address here, but Google little bit and you will find it.

[CenTexCrash]

This pornstar escort site that lists names like Nelly Kent, Mia Evans, Alyssia Kent, among others, I've texted them on two listed numbers, I've raised hell on their Twitter account, I've filled out their online forms, all repeatedly. Nobody answers.

I emailed them once and got a bounce message that the user's email box was full.

I've already set aside 1. 5 days in Budapest in 2 weeks for the bucket list goal of session with a pornstar.

I guess I could break down, get some bit coins, get a membership and PM this Drago fellow see what he suggests.

[ShawnKemp5354]

Formerly retired pornstar is advertising her world tour in Twitter and onlyfans page.

Anyone have experienced booking her using Onlyfans?

[IldiPlay]

Hi!

The new location of 4 Play Lounge is: Budapest, Lovag utca. Since it moved this is the largest gentlemen's club of Budapest.

Palace Lounge and Club Sas utca 9 most established stripclub in town, nice but rather expensive (entrance, drinks and especially ladydrinks) google them for free entrance / free first drink ticket when using their taxi-service to save some money. Quality not as high as I expected, mostly 6s and 7s, a total of 8 girls when I visited, not any clearly visible silicone-girls. No possibilities for extras or take-out as I could tell, Kinda boring, I left after 30mins.

P1 Club, just by Arany Janos Street Metro Station. 500m walk from Palace and run by the same guys as Palace. Similar to Palace in quality and price (high) , No possibilities for extras or take-out as I could tell, just as Palace: Kinda boring, I left after 30mins. If you want to visit both P1 and Palace, pick up the cards at the entrance for either club: free entrance and / or first free drink, P1 also have free taxi service.

Marilyn Table Dance Bar Baross utca 4 free entrance, good pricing on drinks, interesting set up, this stripclub allows outside freelance girls, on the night I was there there was maybe 5 strippers of the club and 4 freelancers, freelancers you can take out and if you buy them drinks, normal drinkpricing applies (no expensive ladiesdrinks) quality of girls not that high, no silicone, but I had a good time since they had some good beer at decent price and there was a fun freelance girl that I chatted with a long time without taking her out..

[Questner]

https://brothel-in.com/budapest/

[Kk989]

During my last trip in Budapest I called the girls below. Short information is provided. The information is current (end of August-beginning of September 2019).

Fanny21.

I got her on the phone first time. She answered the phone and quoted 20,000 HUF for 1 h but was not available for that day. Proposed to call her for the next day. Called her the next day, she proposed her friend Cintia19. I declined that proposal. She asked me to call her next day from 11 am. I did that, she answered but she was still not available for that day. I called one more time the next day at around 11:30 am, when she completely flipped out and told me loudly screaming:"Don't call me back. Thank you". In my book she is a mental case. Also, the first time I called her, she said that her place is about 20-25 min. From downtown. So, she is not in XIV district as her ad says, but in XVIII district as other reviewers on rosszlanyok pointed out. If you add the transportation cost which would be around (10000-15000 HUF) you get a mental case for about EUR 100. Avoid.

So correct me if I didn't read your post correctly, but you didn't actually meet anybody, right? You just called like a dozen girls and said "next time"?

Too bad your experience getting in touch with Fanny. She's fantastic, and I've never had issues scheduling time with her. I've seen her on 3 occasions and have been able to get her on same day notice each time. BTW you're wrong on the location of her apt. It is in XIV and about 20-25 minutes by bus from downtown. I don't think any of us have said it's in XVIII.

As for Regina, I've had the same experience. That chick never seems to answer her phone.