Bali

[DoctorRough]

First time posting, but I have some good info (I hope) to share from my recent trip to Bali.

(as an aside / disclaimer: my reading of this board suggests that people get some satisfaction out of seeing how much they can get for the least amount of money. I'm far from independently wealthy, but arguing over 100 k rupiah ($7 USD) isn't my style. Not judging anyone, but just be aware this post isn't about "how to find the cheapest release".

I spent a little over a week in Bali (stayed in two different spots in Kuta) this month. I have four experiences (all of a different variety) to share. Hope this helps anyone planning a trip.

First, let me heartily endorse Badoo as a way to meet both "professionals" as well as local girls who might want to keep you company during your visit. Unlike some other sites (IndonesianCupid) it is free to send messages (although there are some premium features you could sign up for). I started messaging women about two weeks before my trip.

Experience 1: Outcall from a girl on Badoo. There are some profiles on Badoo which plainly identify themselves as "massage girls", other it is clear from their pictures why they are on the site. Note that these profiles get deleted pretty frequently, so you if there is someone you are really interested in, get their whatsapp as they will probably disappear soon. This will also explain why you will see the same photos associated with different profiles. These aren't (for the most part, I don't think) fake accounts, they just have to be nimble because site admins are deleting "professional" profiles. I had heard that their "handlers" are the ones managing the accounts and pulling "bait and switches" (I. E. Different girl than the photos shows up at your hotel). I corresponded with a number of these accounts (some were very pushy and I had to block on whatsapp), but decided to pull the trigger with one. We agreed on 800 k ($56 USD). Again, I probably could have negotiated lower, but she was coming to my hotel and I'm not going to haggle over $7 USD. To my pleasant surprise, the girl that showed up at my hotel was the girl from the photos. Probably an 9/10 (tiny spinner, very fit, pretty face, small breasts). Unfortunately, she spoke almost zero English. So no small talk, basically went upstairs and go to it. Encounter itself was mediocre (we had some lubrication / size issues; basic uncovered BJ and fondling, then mish. At one point, I "accidentally" touched her starfish and she reacted like she'the be shot with a howitzer, so I didn't pursue that angle) and the lack of English was a turnoff for me. So while I would not repeat (she contact me again the next day wanting to see me again), the overall experience was fine and worth the $.

Experience 2: Flame Spa in Kuta. I won't go into too much detail here since their website is very informative and accurate in terms of what you get. I opted for the "Flame" massage. I would say that you should book an appointment ahead of time; I did not and as a result they told me that a "basic spa room" was not available and I had to pay to upgrade to the "deluxe room". While they may have been telling the truth, I suspect this was upsell, but the extra 75 k was actually worth it (the shower with the girl after the massage was very nice). The spa itself (lobby and rooms) are very nice, clean and modern. They are very upfront about what you are getting and what you are not (e. G. They tell you no FS at front desk). They gave me the option of three different girls (this was in the afternoon, so maybe there are more at night). All were attractive but I selected the one that I liked best (Nadia I think? Dyed blond hair, spinner). She was honestly a 10, as well as very nice, playful and flirty. Decent English. Very nice regular massage, followed by soapy body slide massage, with he, then shower together (she was naked for body slide, he and shower). She asked if I was interested in "extras" and I declined (I thought this probably meant covered BJ and I didn't want to pay what that would have likely costed). While this overall experience is not cheap for what you get, this was a very high class experience and in my opinion worth every penny. I will definitely repeat if I am ever in Bali again.

Experience 3: "Girlfriend" from Badoo. We started chatting on Badoo (and then Whatsapp) a few weeks before I arrived. She was a regular local girl (Indonesian, but not Balinese) who worked as a waitress. I was honest with her that I was only in town for a short time and wasn't looking for marriage or anything beyond fun while I was in Bali. She was OK with that. She was short, cute and in decent shape (a couple of extra pounds, but nothing major). She worked as a waitress during the day so when she'the get off work at 8 pm we'the go have dinner. Then go back to my hotel. One night I took her shopping for shoes and on her day off we went to a beach club. In total, I probably spent the same amount I would have per night as I would have on an outcall girl, but this was a true GFE experience and we had sex multiple times each time I saw her. I also enjoyed getting to learn a little about local life and Indonesian culture. She wasn't the hottest girl I've ever been with, but was a nice person and the sex was good.

Experience 4: I hesitate to include this as this one is a bit embarrassing, but maybe it will be useful to folks if they are into this sort of thing. One evening out I was heading back to my hotel (after quite a few Bintangs) I was accosted by the normal crews of women outside of spas offering massage (for those who haven't been, this is very common, but most of these spas are legit and do not offer extras). One particular woman was VERY aggressive and latched onto my arm and would not let go. I didn't feel like dragging her down the street, so I weakly agreed to 50 k for a 1 hour massage (what the hell, right? I'm drunk, $4 USD for a not unattractive woman to rub on me for an hour isn't the worst thing ever). After the massage starts, the upsell also starts. "Don't you want a second girl?" "Don't you want me to massage your ass?" We settle on a he for an extra 300 k (she took her top off and offered her breasts to me). Not a good massage, not a good he, not a good experience. "Spa" was sketchy, didn't feel clean and wasn't very private (I. E. Three massage tables were very close to each other and separated by curtains only). If for some reason you are seeking this out, on the main street in southern Kuta (Kartika Plaza) has a bunch of these types of spots. Look for groups of women sort of randomly sitting on the street offering massage (rather than the girls sitting directly in front of their spas. The impression I got was the latter tend to be legit spots).

[BenderOver]

Found these places next to each other. Tried the talent at both and enjoyed my time thoroughly. Highly recommended for a visit. Expensive for Indonesia, but was the happiest mongering I did while in Bali.

1. 5 M for 90 minutes + 100 k tip (or more if you feel so inclined).

Full massage treatment with nuru and tease. DFK, necking, nipple lick, BBBJ, DATY, multiple positions, one shot.

L Face 9, body 8. 5.

A 8. 5.

S 8. 5 no Greek.

E 1. 5+100 k 90 minutes single shot.

Are yes and yes.

This easily compares to Kota Indah but at KI it's 60 minutes max single shot, no massage service at all, same quality rooms, and KI is 400 k+100 k. I'd say KI has a lower hotty likelihood.

[OceanSummerz]

So last year my friend and I were on his bachelors and ended up partying too much, drinking too much and doing all the wrong (but right) things. We left La Favela in Seminyak and met a very cute freelancer and her friend. She spoke decent English but her friend did not. Chatted a while and casually asked her to come back to our place, which she said would cost us 1.5 Mil each. I had no idea on prices but knew that bargaining was key, plus my groom to be friend was in two minds. I said lets do 1.5 Mil for both, which they refused. We chatted / flirted a minute longer and moved away. In 10 minutes she came back to negotiate but we didn't budge. She called a cab and went back to our for 750 k each (which, after reading this forum, doesn't seem too bad).

I decided to take the lesser attractive of the two (have to give the man a good send off). Sex was decent of what I remember of it. Average GFE, but was open to all the positions I wanted to try out. After we were done, decided to check on my mate. He was passed out, naked and the girl was sitting on the bed waiting. Apparently he didn't make it through and passed out half way. Could've had both to myself, my only complaint.

Heading back to Bali and staying in Seminyak in November. Any tips around the area? I'm on Badoo, getting a head start. Would love some genuine working girls, somehow there's a bit more of a thrill with them!

[Ceegee]

Where the Sunset Road starts on the bypass.

The statue of Dewa Ruci is looking straight at the spas, which are next to each other.

Thanks for that description, looked it up on Google with that. You can see the Mawar sign on Google Street View. I have driven past there countless times and had no idea they were there.

[BenderOver]

On my first visit, I was quoted 350 k IDR but they accepted 300 k IDR. On subsequent visits, I paid the same price without any discussion as I became familiar with the ladies. I could have given 250 k IDR but the massage and service were always good. So it wasn't an issue for me.

Thanks for the suggestion. I went to Mawar and there were 4 ladies working. All 4/10 in looks. Yipes! Walked over to Angel which is about 9 meters away and scoped out the 6 better looking women. I picked the prettiest and who appeared to be the youngest. She was still 30 to 35 at least! They gave me the bule price of 600 k and I countered with my dumbass bule offer of 500 k. I'm not really bule, but I am a westerner and look like a tourist. Also, I didn't read the latest posts you guys put up recently about 250 k, 300 k, 350 k. So yes, I overpaid for my degree in picking up women at Angel and Mawar.

Went in and the place is a total shithole. I think Sanur X was nicer than Angel. The lady undressed and I discovered how much weight a tight sarong can hide. God she must have been at least 15 k overweight.

The service was decent, but everything was just so decrepit that I wanted to get out of there as quick as possible. She was super friendly and offered GFE. I finished and tipped 150 k (hey I'm a westerner) and was done with both of these places.

The great news is that the bluebird driver told me he'd take me to a nice place the next night. The next night came and he did. It was awesome but very expensive as Indo goes. I was out 1. 5 M for the next night plus a handsome tip but it was sooo worth it.

Will post about this better experience later, but no doubt Manfield already knows this place and is drinking buddies with the boss.

Thank you sir. You've directly and indirectly lead me to paradise.

Bender.

[Manfield04]

It is near Patung Dew Ruci. At the roundabout along Jalan By Pass Ngurah Rai and Jalan Sunset Road.

I searched for both Mawar and Angel in Google Maps. Where are the ones you are talking about?

[MasBule]

I searched for both Mawar and Angel in Google Maps and got many, many places. I assume they are not all naughty spas. I find in Bali it really depends what area you are in as to whether there are extras available.

Where are the ones you are talking about?

Where the Sunset Road starts on the bypass.

The statue of Dewa Ruci is looking straight at the spas, which are next to each other.

[Ceegee]

Thanks for sharing your experiences from Riverview Spa and Sanur X House. If you are looking for some GFE at the same price as Sanur X houses, you may try Mawar Salon and Spa or Angel Salon and Spa. Of course, you will not find stunners there but you will get a good massage and good service from the ladies who may be in their late 20's or 30's. At least I had few which were similar to the ones I had with Julia of Chloe Salon in Sanur few years ago.

I searched for both Mawar and Angel in Google Maps and got many, many places. I assume they are not all naughty spas. I find in Bali it really depends what area you are in as to whether there are extras available.

Where are the ones you are talking about?

[Ceegee]

You must have a lucky face. Whatever the price, it includes the room. If you like the girl, swap numbers of social media and meet outside hours.

Ha, like I said, we had come from work and were massively overdressed for Bali, and it was our first time in the Sanur X houses. No way were we going to get the best rate. Just laughed it off and thought about the asking prices in Jakarta. If I go back, now I know. Pretty low end places though, and a bit of a drive over to Sanur so I'm not in a rush to repeat.

[Pez612]

How much for just massage?

Brilliant! LOL.

[Franga]

How much for just massage?

Haha, you newbies crack me up!

[Pedros Needs]

About 2 years ago when I went to Angel, they quoted me 400 k Rp for massage with HJ only. After some bargaining they agreed to boom boom with no massage for 300 k Rp. So just indicate to them that you don't want a massage and the inflated first price will come down.

I also tried bargaining down the price at Mawar to below 300 k but I was unsuccessful. Looks like 300 k is about their lower limit for boom boom there, as I believe the house gets a 100 k Rp cut of the fee, so the girls seem reluctant to reduce the price too much.

Yes 350 is a bonus for them, they will happily do for 300.

I never hesitate to pay 300, surely can't complain at that, I just hand it over and choose the girl, to do do is a formality not that I go there to often, its a bit to much below standard for my liking.

Pedro.

[Smoothy]

About 2 years ago when I went to Angel, they quoted me 400 k Rp for massage with HJ only. After some bargaining they agreed to boom boom with no massage for 300 k Rp. So just indicate to them that you don't want a massage and the inflated first price will come down.

I also tried bargaining down the price at Mawar to below 300 k but I was unsuccessful. Looks like 300 k is about their lower limit for boom boom there, as I believe the house gets a 100 k Rp cut of the fee, so the girls seem reluctant to reduce the price too much.

How much for just massage?

[Franga]

I know those both, driven past many times, but always thought they were more in the 500 k range?

About 2 years ago when I went to Angel, they quoted me 400 k Rp for massage with HJ only. After some bargaining they agreed to boom boom with no massage for 300 k Rp. So just indicate to them that you don't want a massage and the inflated first price will come down.

I also tried bargaining down the price at Mawar to below 300 k but I was unsuccessful. Looks like 300 k is about their lower limit for boom boom there, as I believe the house gets a 100 k Rp cut of the fee, so the girls seem reluctant to reduce the price too much.

[Manfield04]

On my first visit, I was quoted 350 k IDR but they accepted 300 k IDR. On subsequent visits, I paid the same price without any discussion as I became familiar with the ladies. I could have given 250 k IDR but the massage and service were always good. So it wasn't an issue for me.

I know those both, driven past many times, but always thought they were more in the 500 k range?