Rio de Janeiro Reports

[The Cane]

I was just saying that she would still not make much in American porn and would have to fuck on the side regardless of which porn industry she worked in. And it costs way more to live in Los Angeles where the majority of American porn is made, than to live in Rio. Bottom line is that one is not going to make a living just by doing porn.

I understand that, and that's exactly what I told her, and she seemed to have no clue. She said, "I didn't know that". Geez! But stop and think about it a minute. To earn $1,000 a shoot like a top star in the States would be to earn 10 times what she earns in Brazil for a shoot with the same star status in her country! Now, who wouldn't want to earn 10 times their pay for their job? I know I would! As you say, there is the reality of the cost of living though.

But then again, think about it some more. Suppose she only did one shoot a week, earning $1,000 a shoot. That's $4,000 in a month. Many honest, hardworking people don't earn that much. You won't get rich, which is what I told her, but you can more than survive in LA off of that. To make "comfortable money", I agree with you that she would have to fuck on the side. Do stripping (which she mentioned). Show up at shows and conventions and sign autographs. Sell stuff online. It's a lot of hard work, and how many girls can really keep all of that going for how long? Before their bodies and souls start to break down?

Porno stars, especially the women, mostly have a short shelf-life. They are a dime a dozen! Used up and thrown away. I told her to not keep holding on to some false dream of making it big and getting rich off of doing porn in America. There are plenty of others who have come and gone before her. Used up, trashed, and left broken. Hell, I think it would be better to quit the porn altogether if one can, and just be totally independent doing the escorting. Or, maybe get behind the camera versus in front of it. But even then, it's a cut throat industry, and you really have to work to set yourself apart to be successful and make some money, even from behind the camera.

[Mr Enternational]

Thanks for reading and actually comprehending what I wrote. I think.

The point is whereas an American porn actress might get $1,000 a scene, Elisa is getting only $100 for hers. So, she absolutely is hustling in the escort side of things to make ends meet since she doesn't get much from the porn here in Brazil. What Mr. E finds to be "false" about that, I don't know. If he is insinuating that I was somehow saying that working in porn in America would mean no more need to escort, that is false, as I was not.

Sorry. I guess it gets lost in the way you keep writing it. You attributed the reason to her fucking on the side to be that she does not make much in Brazilian porn. Then you say that you are not saying she still would not be doing side fucking if she worked in the American industry. So the Brazilian industry is NOT the reason she is doing side fucking., since she would do the same in another industry

She's not making shit for what she does, and she knows it, even though she has won multiple awards as a top Brazilian porno star. That's why she's hustling and escorting on the side to earn money and wishing that she could break into the American porn industry where more cash is to be had.

You then go on to say that she wants to break into American porn to make more, insinuating that if she did that, then she would not longer need to fuck on the side as a supplement to a porn income.

I was just saying that she would still not make much in American porn and would have to fuck on the side regardless of which porn industry she worked in. And it costs way more to live in Los Angeles where the majority of American porn is made, than to live in Rio. Bottom line is that one is not going to make a living just by doing porn.

[WyattEarp]

Joyce Oliveira when she was at 4 x 4 in '06.

Quite a few 4 x 4 girls did porn during or after their tenure there. I don't know of anyone working there currently who has shot porn scenes.

[The Cane]

As for what's a deal and what's not a deal, that's a matter of perspective and what you're used to. If you were just in Sao Paulo at Scandallo fucking really hot chicks for $R800 an hour (plus entrance fees and consumption fees), then next you're fucking somebody else who you find to be hot for two hours at $R400 (with no entrance fee and consumption fees), well that is definitely going to look and feel like a deal. If you live in the States in a city where the hottest girls want to charge $500 an hour and deliver much less service than somebody who is charging you only $100 for two hours to let you jizz in her mouth and fuck her in the ass, then yes for me that's definitely a deal (including not having to worry about the legality of it all).

And let's not forget those love hotel room charges in Sao Paulo either! So no entrada, no consumo, no room charge, I don't have to leave my hotel and spend cab fare to go get it, and completa (DFK, BBBJ, CIM, cunnilingus, anal sex and play) at $50 dollars an hour with a hot Brazilian girl? Uh yeah, that sounds like a deal to me! And if that deal is too rich for somebody else, then that's their problem.

[The Cane]

Out at the ole malaga motel.

I think she looks better now in 2019 than she did back then Vagabundo, even with all of the tattoos LOL! Lots of enhancements and a more toned, defined build.

[The Cane]

You probably could have talked that chick down from 400 reais. I would not consider the 400 reais a deal.

With the current exchange rate, $R400 reals for two hours would be $50 per hour! Come on man! People really need to stop being Cheap Charlies! I pay my own bills, so at the end of the day when it comes to deciding what's a deal, when it's my cash the only opinion that matters is my own. And for me, $50 an hour to be with a hot Brazilian chick is going to be a done deal! And I'm not interested in haggling when I'm looking at a price that is ridiculously low compared to anything good I'm going to see in the States. Fifty an hour? I'm taking that. And I did!

[The Cane]

They earn less than those in the US, the main income comes from working as an escort. They can charge much more than a regular escort due to porn portfolio. As one of them said, porn is just an ad.

Thanks for reading and actually comprehending what I wrote. I think. I said she would like to break into the American porn industry where she can make more money doing porn than what she does from doing porn in Brazil. Not that somehow doing porn in the States would mean no more need to escort because she would be making so much more money from the porn industry in America. She would just like to to be paid better for the porno scenes that she does. That's all I (and she) was saying.

The point is whereas an American porn actress might get $1,000 a scene, Elisa is getting only $100 for hers. So, she absolutely is hustling in the escort side of things to make ends meet since she doesn't get much from the porn here in Brazil. What Mr. E finds to be "false" about that, I don't know. If he is insinuating that I was somehow saying that working in porn in America would mean no more need to escort, that is false, as I was not. In fact, I did tell her don't think that porn stars in the States have it made or something. Most all of them struggle, and it's the people producing and selling the stuff who are in the best position to make the money.

As for what's a deal and what's not a deal, that's a matter of perspective and what you're used to. If you were just in Sao Paulo at Scandallo fucking really hot chicks for $R800 an hour (plus entrance fees and consumption fees), then next you're fucking somebody else who you find to be hot for two hours at $R400 (with no entrance fee and consumption fees), well that is definitely going to look and feel like a deal. Her rate was her rate, and I wasn't interested in trying to be a cheap bastard and talk her down and ruining the mood (and likely her willingness to perform too). She isn't making shit to begin with! If you live in the States in a city where the hottest girls want to charge $500 an hour and deliver much less service than somebody who is charging you only $100 for two hours to let you jizz in her mouth and fuck her in the ass, then yes for me that's definitely a deal (including not having to worry about the legality of it all).

I have also clearly said before that generally speaking, I have no thoughts of "mystique" about fucking porn stars. I have been with so many girls whose PSE service was so good that they themselves could be porn stars if they wanted to be. They ought to be in pictures! Hooking up with Elisa was just something new and different (had not been with a porn star before), but it hasn't changed my overall perspective at all. I'm not now all of a sudden going to start regularly seeking out porno starlets who are fucking their fans. Although, I would love to fuck Monica Santiagho LOL!

[Kcrl01]

I fucked Sheila Brown in Cancun 2 years ago, her name was BomBom. I fucked Monica Santiago as an escort in the past.

I would love to fuck Gina Valentina, she lives in the USA. She is a good Brazilian performer.

Joyce Oliveira when she was at 4 x 4 in '06.

[Putero1]

Where I can find fat women? Beautiful and fat.

https://www.instagram.com/dani.mara1/?hl=en

https://www.instagram.com/jenifer_oliveira28/

Something I could never understand. You see men who love fat women, chubby chasers and their web pages and Instagram working girls. But you never see women who are searching for an obese man. I am athletic, not overweight and don't care what you do, just looking to understand why this becomes a fetish for men but not for women.

[Bliadun]

They earn less than those in the US, the main income comes from working as an escort. They can charge much more than a regular escort due to porn portfolio. As one of them said, porn is just an ad.

That is not true at all. The only money to be had in porn is if you are the one making and selling the film. For the people in them it is simply advertising for the escort and strip club side jobs. Chicks in US porn will make $1000 - $1500, while the dudes make $500 - $1000.

I remember seeing a video where a dude pulled up beside Brian Pumper and he was driving like an old ass Ford Escort. 2 days ago there was a video of Bridget the Midget breaking windows at the basic apartment that her and her boyfriend stay in. Her car was like a yellow VW Bug or something.

You probably could have talked that chick down from 400 reais. For me it is no mystique to fuck someone just because they fucked on film. I would not consider the 400 reais a deal.

[Bliadun]

This idea was in my bucket list for quite a while.

Good report, Cane.

Indeed, the great thing about Brazil is banging a porn star for $30 USD.

The real monger degree of difficulty skill is to find them when they are at Prives in Centro, or in the Prives in Moema, where, for $30 USD, you can bang a real porn star. Which is a pretty good thing to put on your bucket list to do over and over, and forget all the other trivial pursuits.

[Bliadun]

Maybe 10 girls well past an expiration date, 2 of them even asked for a drink. Food is lackluster and overpriced, the waitress did not bring my cocktail even after the third reminder. Next day was driving by in a taxi around 11 pm, the place was packed; did not check the talent.

Hey guys,

I will soon be arriving in Rio and hoping to be a regular at Mabs as I plan to stay in Copacabana.

God Bless.

[Frenchieboy]

Hey guys,

I will soon be arriving in Rio and hoping to be a regular at Mabs as I plan to stay in Copacabana.

Can someone please let me know names of couple of hotels (under $75 USD) that are safe, secure and very guest friendly in Copa area, preferably close to Mabs.

Secondly I want to know if Mabs usually has some blonde or light complexioned girls available during the day time or is it a place that comes alive after sunset?

Finally, what is the deal with many Termas asking for an ID? Am I supposed to carry my passport with me all times? Or will the photocopy suffice?

I thank anyone who can answer above questions.

God Bless.

In Mabs nothing in day time except drinking or eating, action begins around 10 pm.

[Mr Enternational]

That's why she's hustling and escorting on the side to earn money and wishing that she could break into the American porn industry where more cash is to be had.

That is not true at all. The only money to be had in porn is if you are the one making and selling the film. For the people in them it is simply advertising for the escort and strip club side jobs. Chicks in US porn will make $1000 - $1500, while the dudes make $500 - $1000.

I remember seeing a video where a dude pulled up beside Brian Pumper and he was driving like an old ass Ford Escort. 2 days ago there was a video of Bridget the Midget breaking windows at the basic apartment that her and her boyfriend stay in. Her car was like a yellow VW Bug or something.

You probably could have talked that chick down from 400 reais. For me it is no mystique to fuck someone just because they fucked on film. I would not consider the 400 reais a deal.

[MongerForSex]

Good report, Cane.

The real monger degree of difficulty skill is to find them when they are at Prives in Centro, or in the Prives in Moema, where, for $30 USD, you can bang a real porn star. Which is a pretty good thing to put on your bucket list to do over and over, and forget all the other trivial pursuits.

I fucked Sheila Brown in Cancun 2 years ago, her name was BomBom. I fucked Monica Santiago as an escort in the past.

I would love to fuck Gina Valentina, she lives in the USA. She is a good Brazilian performer.