Kyiv

[Vitrea]

I gave an overview of my 5 days. Here are few more details.

SIM card: Get a local SIM from Vodaphone or Kievstar for less than $7 USD. Unlimited data for a month. Can't beat it. I use data for hotspot and local number for privacy and helps with Tinder. For others, you don't need a local number.

Having a Local number helps for Tinder contacts. Tinder in Kiev is not as easy as it was in Minsk. On tinder, if the girl posts her whatsapp number, that is likely an agency or a massage only offer. I don't want to write too much about Tinder as it is highly YMMV type situation. I had one from Tinder. Name was Masha. 2500 all inclusive except anal. A solid 7/8. I would have liked to have seen her again if I stayed longer.

I Stay at Airbnb if I am there in any city for more than 3 days. Almost all Hotels are GF in Kiev though. Some girls don't like hotels. Keep that in mind. I stay near Maidan area. This area has highest concentration of Apartments with girls.

This is my daily routine. During Coffee / breakfast I message agents on Viber and ask who is working that morning and arrange one for 11 to 12 PM max. Around one, I use a local guy to take me to apartments. We walk around and check out a few. If I find someone good, I tell them to send her after lunch for a date around 3 to 4 PM. Do session and take a nap. At 7 or 7:30 I will arrange one from Viber agents. Dinner at 9 and then I go out to bars, walk apartments, call Viber agents or hang out with friends. I stay up late and typically do a session around midnight to 2 am.

Having sex with a girl with a beautiful body gives me lot of pleasure. I don't always come as it is hard for me to come more than 3 times a day but many days I will have more than 3 sessions a day. Occasionally I get caught faking it and most girls want to help me finish. He he.

How I treat girls: I almost always give them a massage. Some don't want but most love it. I take shower before every session and use mouthwash. I have chocolate, wine, liquor and mixers, good music, blue tooth speaker handy.

My top girls from this trip based on source are Mika (9. Pure fun and beautiful, english extended for 2 hours), Amanda (8. Finance and credit major, English), Bella (A solid 9 and a tiger in bed, English) Ela (8. Rocket science engineer. No english). I could not believe it so I asked to see her graduation certificate. Now I can confidently say that I fucked a rocket scientist. Missed out on Veronica and Nancy who come recommended by the agency and my buddy. All these girls come from one agent. Don't ask me the number as the person that gave me the number asked me not to share.

Ela (Not Ella) and 5 of her girl friends rent an apartment. She said that they have no boss and no mafia. I can share that number with other members that contribute. I went there because I promised her I would come. There were six girls and three were cute. I was too busy that night to fix a date.

From my walking the apartments with my guide: Carolina (8 tall, no english), and Ana (8/9 English). Ana is pretty in an elegant way and she kissed, BBJ with no questions and expectations. When I tipped her, she was surprised.

Everyone of the above girls is over 167 cm and most are 170 and none over 52 kilo. I saw a few other 8's and 7's. I am only writing names of girls I would repeat.

Miss A, one of the highlights of the trip is 25, big beautiful eyes, has a high paying job and had better diction in English than many native english speakers from USA. What a class act. I spent 6 hours with her. She is a friends contact so don't ask for her number.

I ended the trip with Emily, who is a super cute petite spinner and very open minded, Chemical engineer, very good english. Good enough for spontaneous humor. Funny thing was that I was expecting Veronica, a tall brunette and Emily with curly blonde hair showed up in the taxi with a perky smile and radiant energy. It was an un announced swap for the better! I thanked the agent. She was my last date for the trip and I kept her for two hours. That was Emily's last night of working. She worked for three weeks on and off and said this is not for her. I wished her good luck and sent her home with a nice bottle of French wine.

[Vitrea]

Hi guys,

I am in Kiev next month and need to confirm the going rates, I don't want to be giving the girls less or more to inflate the market.

The prices I been quoted have all been between 100 dollars to 150 dollar for 2-3 hours (2000 - 2800 ukraine).

Does this seen normal and also what's the general all night rates?

The.

Going rate also depends on where you are seeking the girl from. Where were you quoted these prices?

Also, you contribute nothing and only ask questions. Don't expect much help.

[Vitrea]

Just wondering how does one win a pillow fight.

Also the girl from the photo. Someone rated her 6. Definitely true that everyone has own taste but. If this is 6, what is 10 then? Her body looks really nice here and also she is cute, I would give 7 or 8 I guess. But those ratings just sucks. Everyone imagine them differently. But even to get close to some accurately described ratings. Should we not have a post with a lot of girls with number rating on photos to get the idea of it? Even if some girl is indeed 6, still can't compare it to anything.

You are absoluetly correct. Kozerog asked the question to the original poster of the photo, how he would rate her in real life. It is unfair and almost silly to give a rating based on a phone photo taken in bad light. May be the reply was in jest but this girl looks nice.

[SloPhoto1990]

have pillow fights (winner will get reward)

Just wondering how does one win a pillow fight.

Also the girl from the photo. Someone rated her 6. Definitely true that everyone has own taste but. If this is 6, what is 10 then? Her body looks really nice here and also she is cute, I would give 7 or 8 I guess. But those ratings just sucks. Everyone imagine them differently. But even to get close to some accurately described ratings. Should we not have a post with a lot of girls with number rating on photos to get the idea of it? Even if some girl is indeed 6, still can't compare it to anything.

[DeepakPateluk]

Hi guys,

I am in Kiev next month and need to confirm the going rates, I don't want to be giving the girls less or more to inflate the market.

The prices I been quoted have all been between 100 dollars to 150 dollar for 2-3 hours (2000 - 2800 ukraine).

Does this seen normal and also what's the general all night rates?

The.

[Jojosun]

Summer is over, long winter months soon in Kiev, now is the time to read and hear Stories about the 9's and 10's to be had, IF only one has the time to Spend a Weekend in some Unnamed Small Towns in Ukraine.

Here even Photos Come to Life. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ILMX_dnWCLs.

[DramaFree11]

Here are photos of a girl in my apartment.

6, cute girl.

[Kozerog]

Here are photos of a girl in my apartment.

Please rate that girl whose photo you posted, both face and body on scale of 1-10, so we finally have a real world basis for all these ratings discussions.

[PhotoSlider]

I am writing this from the airport. Hope to make a brief report now and will add details if time permits and if there is interest.

Simmary: I had a fantastic time. One of my best trips so far. The quality of women is not any better. But my access and connections got better. Thanks to Photoslider, this trip experience went up. Some of my best are from his contacts.

I used an agent (I find less and less use for him but I can see use of you are new or if you have other business in town and you need an errand person that can translate and willing to help). Agents sometimes get calls when some girl just starts working.

Most girls this time are from P.S.'s contact.

I also used a contact on telegram with girls that are minimum $160/ hour to $250/ hour. I was happy with the quality I was doing. I did 15 dates in 5 days. Two are sevens. Most are 8's and two 9's. 9's for under 2500 grivna are rare for me. I had them before but from a rare apartment girl but mostly from Rio. This time I did not go to Rio. My agent and P.S.'s contact were sending me girls at 2 in the morning in a taxi. How can you beat that? 100 Grivna risk. No brainer.

I only sent one Telegram girl back out of all the taxi deliveries. She was 18, cute, baby fat but not as cute as in photos and not worth 3000 plus 200 they asked for. She left without any fuss and refused taxi money also. Student. New and not used to this.

As has been stated in personal communication to Vitrea upon his departure, I strongly believe that his success is due to his attitude. He has enjoyable personality, is sincere and honest, which has been demonstrated the best when I was triple booked, and had to ask for his help with one of my favorite girls. He took over the responsibility with such a class, that my desperation, facing the departure of a rare beauty, faded away with less pain and suffering.

The girl herself I rated 7-8 body, 6 face, 9 sex and 21 personality. She handled the hand-off beautifully, that both of us boys were thrilled, and she enjoyed the company of a new gentleman in her life.

Please do not ask me for contacts over PM, as I am not a pimp.

I am currently into 6th week in Kiev, and understandably am busy. Had a chance to meet with few ISG members IRL in Kiev. Unfortunately missed Kozerog in August.

Meeting with Vitrea was lots of fun, sharing stories, exchanging contacts, watching him moving forward relentlessly with more and more girls. He also has adequate resources, but doesn't throw his money away. Respect!

I do not recall if Vitrea and myself became more of "tunnel brothers" aside from the above lady.

Awaiting detailed report with great interest!

[SuperLove]

Have a regular girl in Kiev and I keep her very happy with duty free fragrances, gifts and shopping. I recently asked her to organise an orgy for me in my apartment, she will bring in friends and they will dance naked, run around, have pillow fights (winner will get reward), fashion walk and other exciting do's. Idea is to have a fabulous time. She has asked for $1000-1200 for the evening. All girls may be may be 6 will come in late evening and will go back morning. I do not get to see the girls beforehand. Told her to get different chicks. Will keep you all updated, will be mid October.

[HungasaHorse68]

Soon in Kiev for a few days. Like to share some contacts?

Have been in Kiev in November 2018 but only took massages. Also a nice experience with no problems whatsoever and gorgeous staff with OK price for a 4 hands B2B.

I am writing this from the airport. Hope to make a brief report now and will add details if time permits and if there is interest.

Simmary: I had a fantastic time. One of my best trips so far. The quality of women is not any better. But my access and connections got better. Thanks to Photoslider, this trip experience went up. Some of my best are from his contacts.

I used an agent (I find less and less use for him but I can see use of you are new or if you have other business in town and you need an errand person that can translate and willing to help). Agents sometimes get calls when some girl just starts working.

Most girls this time are from P.S.'s contact.

I also used a contact on telegram with girls that are minimum $160/ hour to $250/ hour. I was happy with the quality I was doing. I did 15 dates in 5 days. Two are sevens. Most are 8's and two 9's. 9's for under 2500 grivna are rare for me. I had them before but from a rare apartment girl but mostly from Rio. This time I did not go to Rio. My agent and P.S.'s contact were sending me girls at 2 in the morning in a taxi. How can you beat that? 100 Grivna risk. No brainer.

I only sent one Telegram girl back out of all the taxi deliveries. She was 18, cute, baby fat but not as cute as in photos and not worth 3000 plus 200 they asked for. She left without any fuss and refused taxi money also. Student. New and not used to this.

[SuperLove]

I know it for a fact, if someone has time on his hands, one can get real good quality a pure 9 or even a 10 in small towns of Ukraine. Just spend a weekend. I have a girl who is dying to get out of Ukraine for a weekend. I just don't have the time for her, she is an easy 8. Wants good time, need to be served food at all times and will be happy with 300-400 $ for the trip.

No brainier, what do you guys feel.

When Kiev was good, members posted photos of girls in their apartment. Not anymore, because Kiev is bad.

[Riina]

Here are photos of a girl in my apartment.

[Vitrea]

I am writing this from the airport. Hope to make a brief report now and will add details if time permits and if there is interest.

Simmary: I had a fantastic time. One of my best trips so far. The quality of women is not any better. But my access and connections got better. Thanks to Photoslider, this trip experience went up. Some of my best are from his contacts.

I used an agent (I find less and less use for him but I can see use of you are new or if you have other business in town and you need an errand person that can translate and willing to help). Agents sometimes get calls when some girl just starts working.

Most girls this time are from P.S.'s contact.

I also used a contact on telegram with girls that are minimum $160/ hour to $250/ hour. I was happy with the quality I was doing. I did 15 dates in 5 days. Two are sevens. Most are 8's and two 9's. 9's for under 2500 grivna are rare for me. I had them before but from a rare apartment girl but mostly from Rio. This time I did not go to Rio. My agent and P.S.'s contact were sending me girls at 2 in the morning in a taxi. How can you beat that? 100 Grivna risk. No brainer.

I only sent one Telegram girl back out of all the taxi deliveries. She was 18, cute, baby fat but not as cute as in photos and not worth 3000 plus 200 they asked for. She left without any fuss and refused taxi money also. Student. New and not used to this.

[DramaFree11]

When Kiev was good, members posted photos of girls in their apartment. Not anymore, because Kiev is bad.

Correct, yet you still have guys makings these ridiculous statements that they are banging 8-10's, not a chance in H. They were not there 3.5 years ago and I can only imagine how bad it is now. You will be lucky to get a 6 and $75 no way.