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09-24-19 15:21 #20313
Posts: 2041Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
I agree with you on the clinicas. If this was the SP thread, we might start a war.
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09-24-19 15:07 #20312
Posts: 39The trill is gone
Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
I got you you're right it's not like 10-15 years ago and it never will be.
4 x 4 or any other place is the same no more 9's and 10's.
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09-23-19 19:53 #20311
Posts: 6420Solarium, MABS, and Barbarella
I went to Solarium last weekend. For whatever reason, I've always liked to visit Solarium on a Saturday. Saturday is Solarium day, so that's when I went. I got there early around 6:30 pm with one thought on my mind. Tonight, I'm feeling like a blonde. I'm wanting a loira branca for anal sex. Solarium has a reputation for being a terma where you can find blondes, and with good reason. However, I was disappointed on the night that I went. I saw only three. One was way too heavy, the other one just did not appeal to me physically, and the third one was just too much of an obvious fake who wasn't pulling it off well. No blondes for The Cane on that night.
The vibe in the boite was good though! Much better than the depressing scene I found at Centaurus. The bar area for Solarium is really tiny though, so it doesn't take much to fill it up. When I arrived, I would say there were twelve girls there, and maybe about what? Ten guys? Within a couple of hours, there were at least 25 girls there, and maybe 20 clients. A large group of Japanese men came in, so that helped. The most attractive girl there according to my standards was this really pretty morena. An easy solid 8 on my scale. The problem was that I had just had that the night before at Centaurus. Well, Taish at Centaurus turned out to be a branca with a really deep, deep tan (so harmful to her skin), but hell she looked just like a morena. I mean she and the one I was eyeing at Solarium looked like they could have been related.
Not seeing the blondie I was looking for, and not wanting to repeat with somebody who looked like what I had enjoyed the night before, I settled in with some drinks and a couple of appetizers to see who might show up. After a few hours of waiting and seeing, nobody I wanted showed, so I decided to cut out of there and come back to the hotel. I went up to the hotel bar to have a look around when I got back. I had heard that sometimes ladies of the evening could be found up there. I didn't see any, but granted it was still quite early in the evening. It was cold and window up there, so I decided to just go for a nice long walk along Avenida Atlantica. This is something I like to do in Rio. I walked all the way down to MABS, where I chose to stop and order a couple of more appetizers. Well, they call them appetizers at these restaurants, but some of the portions are just so huge that I can't finish them all. Of course, being a monger, I took some time time check out the talent. Although still kind of early, there was some talent on the stroll. Maybe as many as 10 tutes, and there were about 3 or 4 of them that I thought were kind of cute! Solid 7's. One of them winked at me as I ate my food LOL! There were also some clearly fat and washed up ones. I wasn't seeing anything good enough to keep my interest. Ate, paid, and out of there!
After paying up at MABS, I decided to roll over to Barbarella. This is another one of those "love" or "hate to love" places for most Rio mongers (primarily the latter I think). On my very first trip to Rio way back when, this place used to be packed to the gills with tricks and tutes! And I'm talking you could find 8's and 9's up in there, with an occasional 10. My routine was I would go to Help and not see anybody I liked, then get myself over to Barbarella where I could pull somebody late to take back to my hotel room for sexual relations, usually an attractive blonde. Well on this night, oh man how depressing! Even worse than at Centaurus! Maybe only 5 bored girls, and not even that many men on average at any one time! I did see a blonde who came in after a while. She looked good from a distance. But when I finally got her attention and got her to come to my table, her face looked kind of "used up" and past its prime, and she reeked of really bad cigarette smoke from head to toe. Nope! Not about to happen. Looks like this is going to be a bust of a night.
I finished up my two drinks and headed back to the hotel. I was thinking. Thinking, thinking, thinking! Something is missing in Rio now. Something is "wrong". Is it the place? Or, is it me? I actually think it's a little bit of both. Yes, I guess that with a certain amount of trips, the novelty and the excitement can wear off. But, I think it's more than that though. That "vibe". It's missing. It's gone. And the talent. It's not as good as when I first came. I'm talking about finding 8's and 9's at termas like Centaurus and Monte Carlo. At Barbarella too, even if some guys did view it as kind of a "clip joint". I don't know. I'm just not having the kind of a mind-blowing time in Rio as I have in the past. I don't know. Maybe it's time to think about taking a break from coming to Rio again for awhile. I just don't know. Maybe the scene in and around Copacabana really is on its death knell. I hope things will be better in Centro. If I go to 4 X 4 and find that sucks too, then I know it will be time to blow this popsicle stand!
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09-23-19 18:20 #20310
Posts: 6420Understood
Originally Posted by WyattEarp [View Original Post]
What irks me more is comments about how much a monger pays, and it's why I rarely talk about prices. I mean, I think that sometimes people are just a bit much. So, I pay $R800 an hour for a hot tute at Scandallo in Sao Paulo, and that's way too much for some guys. OK, I get it. Then I get to Rio, and now I'm paying half that at $R400 (less than half really if you include the entrada, consumo, and love hotel charge), but getting twice as much time for "completa" service per Brazilian standards, and still that's too much? Give me a break. Look, that's 10 times less than what I would pay per hour in my American city for what I like, with far greater service!
And the clinicas? OK yes, they are a deal money-wise, but only if you like mostly 5's and 6's. I don't, and I'm not going to come all the way to Brazil just to bang 5's and 6's. I've been to enough clinicas already to know that nobody is going to get away with telling me that the same high optics found in the nightclubs can be found with consistency in the clinicas too. It cannot, as I have seen with my own eyes, so I pay what I can afford to in order to acquire what I want. And that's to fuck lots of pretty girls (7's and up) in their butt holes!
Another thing I want to point out too. It's not just tourist money that is propping up clubs like Scandallo and Cafe Photo. Places like that would not last without Brazilian men patronizing them with their money too. As has been said many times before, there is sometimes a tendency to overvalue the importance of tourist money when it comes to the impact of mongering in any economy. You ordinarily need the locals to be in on it first, or else the business cannot be sustained, and it will fold. If you go to a place like Scandallo, it's mostly Brazilian people in there who are spending the money on eating, drinking, and fucking. Not a gringo tourist like me.
Mongering is like politics in that first and foremost, it's all local. If there is no local skin (cash) in the game, then in most normal circumstances a place like a Scandallo or a Cafe Photo or a Bomboa is going to fail and have to close its doors. Don't blame the tourists mongers for those high Scandallo prices. Blame it on the locals! And if you too want to play with them, then you got to pay! Up!
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09-23-19 17:14 #20309
Posts: 2041C'mon Man! Don't bust The Cane's chops over a throwaway comment. He writes a lot (mostly good stuff) and I understood what he was trying to say.
I'm not sure he realizes that most porn girls don't make a lot of money from filming. I'm not even sure they make $1,000 per scene, but it's not worth analyzing.
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09-23-19 15:23 #20308
Posts: 6420Sophia
I recently had a two-hour session in my hotel room with a "ruiva" named Sophia. I have a weakness for attractive redheads, so when I saw her ad, I decided to give her a try. I'm glad I did. Sophia has been featuring on www.riosexsite.com. You can't see her face there, but when she showed up, I was satisfied with her total appearance, including her pretty face. I have found Rio Sex Site to be one of the best escort sites I have tried anywhere in the world. This is also where I found Elisa Sanches. The pictures have been legit, the girls are active (not lots of stale or fake ads and photos), and the girls I contacted on the site (a handful) all got back to me. I have sessioned with two from there, and I have been pleased with both of them. I turned down one of the hot blondes because she told me she didn't do anal, and I really wanted anal from her if I was going to do her. At least she was honest.
At 22 years of age, Sophia is a very young university student, but I can tell you that she has a solid head on her shoulders, and is enjoying what she's doing! I was very impressed with her intelligence, thoughtfulness, and aim to please. She was a little vixen in bed too who gave good BBBJ / CIM service, and liked a good, hard pounding from multiple positions. Lots of kissing too for those of you who require DFK. We did not do anal, but she will consider it on a case-by-case basis. Depends on size. Now, I like to spend some time talking to these girls if I can. I always learn something interesting, including things about themselves, their family life, why they're escorting, stuff about the sex the industry, and what their plans are for the future.
For example, she explained to me that one reason why Rio Sex Site is one of the best is because the girls have to pay $R700 (I believe that's monthly) to keep an ad posted on there, whereas some other sites are garbage and full of fakes because it's free to advertise on them. An ad fee of $R700 is considered to be expensive in Brazil, so if you see a girl on Rio Sex Site, then she's one of the ones who is serious about what she's doing, and she's making good money to be able to consistently afford to advertise her services. Sophia has been escorting for about a year now, and may seek to take a break by the end of the current university academic year. I rate her overall appearance a 7, and her performance an 8. If interested, you can get her contact details at www.riosexsite.com.
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09-23-19 15:03 #20307
Posts: 68Porn girls
Originally Posted by Bliadun [View Original Post]
What stars? They're just girls who fuck in front of cam.
If you want porn"stars"than go to Sao Paulo.
No one of them works at prives in centro.
For me the best one was Monica Santhiago when she was in her prime about 10 years ago.
The one I like is funky bunda mulher melancia.
Enternational got point greetings from VM.
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09-23-19 14:42 #20306
Posts: 6420Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
But then again, think about it some more. Suppose she only did one shoot a week, earning $1,000 a shoot. That's $4,000 in a month. Many honest, hardworking people don't earn that much. You won't get rich, which is what I told her, but you can more than survive in LA off of that. To make "comfortable money", I agree with you that she would have to fuck on the side. Do stripping (which she mentioned). Show up at shows and conventions and sign autographs. Sell stuff online. It's a lot of hard work, and how many girls can really keep all of that going for how long? Before their bodies and souls start to break down?
Porno stars, especially the women, mostly have a short shelf-life. They are a dime a dozen! Used up and thrown away. I told her to not keep holding on to some false dream of making it big and getting rich off of doing porn in America. There are plenty of others who have come and gone before her. Used up, trashed, and left broken. Hell, I think it would be better to quit the porn altogether if one can, and just be totally independent doing the escorting. Or, maybe get behind the camera versus in front of it. But even then, it's a cut throat industry, and you really have to work to set yourself apart to be successful and make some money, even from behind the camera.
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09-23-19 14:02 #20305
Posts: 15918Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
I was just saying that she would still not make much in American porn and would have to fuck on the side regardless of which porn industry she worked in. And it costs way more to live in Los Angeles where the majority of American porn is made, than to live in Rio. Bottom line is that one is not going to make a living just by doing porn.
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09-23-19 04:44 #20304
Posts: 2041Originally Posted by Kcrl01 [View Original Post]
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09-23-19 02:43 #20303
Posts: 6420Oh!
Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
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09-23-19 02:00 #20302
Posts: 6420Elisa Sanches Photos
Originally Posted by Vagabundo1 [View Original Post]
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09-23-19 00:48 #20301
Posts: 6420Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
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09-23-19 00:08 #20300
Posts: 6420Originally Posted by Bliadun [View Original Post]
The point is whereas an American porn actress might get $1,000 a scene, Elisa is getting only $100 for hers. So, she absolutely is hustling in the escort side of things to make ends meet since she doesn't get much from the porn here in Brazil. What Mr. E finds to be "false" about that, I don't know. If he is insinuating that I was somehow saying that working in porn in America would mean no more need to escort, that is false, as I was not. In fact, I did tell her don't think that porn stars in the States have it made or something. Most all of them struggle, and it's the people producing and selling the stuff who are in the best position to make the money.
As for what's a deal and what's not a deal, that's a matter of perspective and what you're used to. If you were just in Sao Paulo at Scandallo fucking really hot chicks for $R800 an hour (plus entrance fees and consumption fees), then next you're fucking somebody else who you find to be hot for two hours at $R400 (with no entrance fee and consumption fees), well that is definitely going to look and feel like a deal. Her rate was her rate, and I wasn't interested in trying to be a cheap bastard and talk her down and ruining the mood (and likely her willingness to perform too). She isn't making shit to begin with! If you live in the States in a city where the hottest girls want to charge $500 an hour and deliver much less service than somebody who is charging you only $100 for two hours to let you jizz in her mouth and fuck her in the ass, then yes for me that's definitely a deal (including not having to worry about the legality of it all).
I have also clearly said before that generally speaking, I have no thoughts of "mystique" about fucking porn stars. I have been with so many girls whose PSE service was so good that they themselves could be porn stars if they wanted to be. They ought to be in pictures! Hooking up with Elisa was just something new and different (had not been with a porn star before), but it hasn't changed my overall perspective at all. I'm not now all of a sudden going to start regularly seeking out porno starlets who are fucking their fans. Although, I would love to fuck Monica Santiagho LOL!
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09-22-19 23:01 #20299
Posts: 557TBT Sunday:
Originally Posted by MongerForSex [View Original Post]