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[ThatGuy23]

Been to plenty of FKKs, but only now getting more adventurous with things I'm looking for.

Is DATY usually extra, or standard? I prefer having a condom on my tongue when going down on a girl. Will she mind me asking her for an extra condom so I can use it while going down on her?

Are two shots standard in a 100 Euro hour session, or is that an extra 50?

Are rim jobs available? I'm sure it depends on the girl, but don't want to disgust any of them by asking if that's not a popular activity here.

Thank you.

[Sirioja]

At Samya, at World, when you are able to take care of your girl, then she says: now your turn to have pleasure and BBBJ is standard. Despite new law with BBBJ and AO forbidden, what is reality?

Like in any clubs I visit.

[Sirioja]

Two shots in one hour is possible, but I suppose that most of the girls don't expect that kind of stamina. Upsell for That? Ask your lady in advance. In case she resigns you still can avoid to go with her on the room. Half an hour with CIM is usually 100 Euro (50+50) in Sharks. You know that since July 2017 BBBJ isn't anymore allowed by law. On German and French boards therefore the keyword won't be used anymore. As far as I know girls in several clubs (e. G. Samya) ask for certain upgrades in case of certain features being asked by the customer.

At Samya, at World, when you are able to take care of your girl, then she says: now your turn to have pleasure and BBBJ is standard. Despite new law with BBBJ and AO forbidden, what is reality?

[Tedesco]

.... half hour with BBBJ CIM be 100, or 150? Are they asking for 50 for BBBJ plus 50 for CIM, or is that negotiated together? .... two shots typical in an hour session, or is that an extra upsell also?

Two shots in one hour is possible, but I suppose that most of the girls don't expect that kind of stamina. Upsell for That? Ask your lady in advance. In case she resigns you still can avoid to go with her on the room. Half an hour with CIM is usually 100 Euro (50+50) in Sharks. You know that since July 2017 BBBJ isn't anymore allowed by law. On German and French boards therefore the keyword won't be used anymore. As far as I know girls in several clubs (e. G. Samya) ask for certain upgrades in case of certain features being asked by the customer.

[ThatGuy23]

1. The CIM being 50 is not new. This has been true for ten years or more. What is new is the upsell 50 for BBBJ and kissing. But as you say avoidable.

So, would a half hour with BBBJ CIM be 100, or 150? Are they asking for 50 for BBBJ plus 50 for CIM, or is that negotiated together?

Also, are two shots typical in an hour session, or is that an extra upsell also?

[Sirioja]

Hi all,

I'll be visiting Frankfurt for the first time and having my first FKK.

Experience. Quick question as a visitor from outside Germany and Europe, it seems like BBBJ is quite pervasive and is offered commonly. How safe is this in terms of STD? Where I come from, prostitution is legal but BBBJ is illegal. It's deemed to be risky and as such not something we find here at all.

Are the girls pretty regularly tested but it's a case of at your own risk or is it not as common as I've been led to think from reading the review on this board?

Thanks!

You can ask for CBJ if you feel more safe. Maybe you can have cum in condom in mouth for free, if you are not Asian.

[Steve 9696]

I make a point of sampling different mongering destinations to broaden my horizons and see if I like any new places as much as or more than ones that I already know. My overseas mongering up to this point had been mostly in Latin America, with a bit in Southeast Asia and one trip to Amsterdam. German FKKs remained a major gap in my experience that I decided to fill. I am glad that I did so, as this Frankfurt-based FKK tour was one of my best overseas mongering experiences thus far, despite significant downsides. I will be adding FKKs to my regular rotation for future trips. This post is an overview of my FKK tour; I will also be posting reviews of the FKKs that I visited.

Why I went there.

I had read mixed reviews about German FKKs and identified strong pros and cons. Selling points included: the Eastern European talent pool, for which Eastern Europeans in my native New York had whetted my appetite; the visual quality of the lineups; the female nudity; reports of strong oral skills; and the chance to monger in the safety and comfort of a highly developed country with more culture and sightseeing. The last point was key for me, as I prefer multifaceted travel experiences and need downtime to rest my dick and recharge my libido. I had visited Berlin and Munich before I discovered overseas mongering. I took more of a liking to Germany than other European countries, and I hoped to return someday to explore western parts of Germany, which fit very well with my <snip>?

So first of all kudos. This is the single best piece of reporting I've seen on ISG and I am a prolific detailed reporter myself. A few thoughts.

1. The CIM being 50 is not new. This has been true for ten years or more. What is new is the upsell 50 for BBBJ and kissing. But as you say avoidable.

2. It sounds like you are an experienced guy but have been to Rio not SP. Strongly recommend an SP visit. Wide consensus that it's way better than Rio. Scandallo remains my choice for a buffet unmatched worldwide. Easily 150 hot girls AVAILABLE on a Thursday night. As a connaiseur you should go!

3. I do think FKK girls are less likely to get wet downstairs than Brazilian girls (Claudia was a notable exception a sloppy mess) but this isn't so much an indictment of Romanians so much as a plus of the Brasileira. Brasileiras are unique worldwide in my opinion for being able to be totally present. Completely into being your girlfriend for a couple hours. I have not experienced that so strongly and consistently from any other nationality.

[Wsg2002]

Hi all,

I'll be visiting Frankfurt for the first time and having my first FKK.

Experience. Quick question as a visitor from outside Germany and Europe, it seems like BBBJ is quite pervasive and is offered commonly. How safe is this in terms of STD? Where I come from, prostitution is legal but BBBJ is illegal. It's deemed to be risky and as such not something we find here at all.

Are the girls pretty regularly tested but it's a case of at your own risk or is it not as common as I've been led to think from reading the review on this board?

Thanks!

[FuckedUpSwede]

I would ask FuckedUpSwede. In what specific ways are Munich-area FKKs different, aside from cost and more German girls?

This is my theory, both Col and Hawaii (which I prefer by they way) are located to far from Mnich to attract much foreign mongers since you need a car to get there. Their prices are too high to attract locals with low income. They mainly attract local, middle class Germans. Because of this the girls rely mostly on repeat customers who require long coach times, high service level and diversity among girls. This sets the mood for those clubs, I felt that the girls where a bit distant at your first visit but loosened up quite much at my next visit and gave great GFE when they recognized me.

You can absolutely find this in specific clubs, if you hit the right day and time, in other areas but in those two clubs it is more obvious I think.

I did not try the FKK in the city of Munich but I do not think it would be like Col and Hawaii since I think it mostly attract foreign messe visitors = fire and forget for the girls.

[GringoItaliano]

I would recommend Munich, I recognized a different behavior in the two clubs I tried there compared to Frankfurt and NRW clubs. I would not say Munich is "better" it is just a little different if that is what you are looking for?

Both Munich and Hamburg are more expensive than Frankfurt and NRW but they have more german girls as well.

Everybody, thank you for the positive feedback on my trip report.

Also, thank you FuckedUpSwede and Tintin1 for your recommendations of Munich and of Coliseum in Augsburg. Both recommendations are in Bavaria, which is a region that I had already considered visiting again for non-mongering reasons, long before I discovered FKKs or any foreign mongering at all. I enjoyed my previous, non-mongering visit to Munich and hoped to explore Bavaria further someday. Perhaps the FKKs will give me more of a reason to do so.

I would ask FuckedUpSwede. In what specific ways are Munich-area FKKs different, aside from cost and more German girls?

Speaking of which, I noticed during my pre-trip research on these threads that the native German girls seemed to have more consistently positive reviews, or at least that there were fewer negative comments about them. I made a point of looking for native Germans during this trip but could not find a single one.

As for Coliseum, I had heard good things about it and considered it, but it was too far away to include in my itinerary for this trip. Is there anything else that distinguished Coliseum or made it better, in your opinion, other than the rule against girls approaching guys?

[FuckedUpSwede]

Based on my above feedback, what if any other region (s) of Germany would you recommend for my future FKK tours, besides the obvious choice of North-Rhine Westphalia? Bavaria? Hamburg? Stuttgart? Saxony?

What if any differences in appearance, service, behavior, and facilities should I expect as I explore more FKKs further from the heavier foreign influence in and around Frankfurt?

Have you found that the FKK girls have exceptionally strong oral skills, as I did? If so, do you have any ideas as to why that might be the case? Have you found any other destinations where the girls have equally good or better oral skills?

Hello Gringo and thanks for a really extensive report. I have sorted out the questions I have some experience in. I travel to Germany 1 time a month in average and it is mostly in business.

I would recommend Munich, I recognized a different behavior in the two clubs I tried there compared to Frankfurt and NRW clubs. I would not say Munich is "better" it is just a little different if that is what you are looking for?

Both Munich and Hamburg are more expensive than Frankfurt and NRW but they have more german girls as well.

I prefer to lurk around in smaller clubs since it gives me more of a thrill than the big ones and in general it is cheaper, dirtier (in all aspects) and has a more personal touch. You might think that the line-up should be insufficient in small, remote places but this is not always the case, there are more variables in play than plain market rules. Yes, in general it is worse if you only compare optics but the service level is almost always higher and often you stumble upon girls you cannot understand why they stay at such a small place with their optics.

I just love the oral skills of the girls, I normally prefer it instead of FS. I think they are good at it since they have a lot of training. Germans like to have their knob eaten, as simple as that.

[Tintin1]

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Many FKKs are in remote locations (from the perspective of an urbanite like me) and can be time-consuming, inconvenient, or expensive to reach via public transportation. T

The Frankfurt area FKKs seemed to be the most popular and highly regarded among foreigners. Sharks and Oase seemed to be the most highly regarded of those Frankfurt area FKKs and were thus top priorities. Palace and Mainhattan made it onto my list due to their greater accessibility within Frankfurt.

The visual quality of the talent in these FKKs was among the highest ......
mediocre girls were few in number.
Run quite a bit skinnier than I would have liked. A good set of tits & ass was harder to come by, compared to my usual haunts in Latin America. ..

The pervasive upsell in the room that others described turned out to be far less of an issue than I expected. I may have preempted much of the upsell in the room by being clear in pre-session negotiations in the social areas about both what I did want (kissing, BBBJ, and the option for CIM) and what I did not want (threesomes and anal). Curiously, I received more unsolicited offers of anal than in Brazil,
I am comfortable paying more for higher levels of service, particularly for BBBJ, which is critical for me, and the option to CIM, which I value. I do, however, have a few critiques of the way that the FKK girls structure fees. The first is that they only negotiate in 50 euro increments, as if 5, 10, and 20 euro bills did not exist.

Another factor that probably motivates strong performance in the FKKs is the standard practice of paying the girls after the session,

if it were easier to maintain contact with the girls outside the FKKs, I sensed that they might be less open to it.

Amazing write up. Well done. My personal reaction to the FKK life and my trips to Latin America as follows.

First I agree, the girls tend to be slenderer than I've found in Paraguay, Ecuador, Brazil, even Mexico, BUT by USA Standards -- or at least my considerable hobbying, -- I would seldom use the term spinner or skinny. On the slender side, yes but not skinny. Agree that there is probably less "silicon" and implants than elsewhere, especially in US clubs. As to looks, I found plenty of girls I thought mediocre, but when I'm in Ecuador I think the exotic Latinas all seem extra hot, so maybe it's just perspective of what we are both used to. Lots of 5's and 6's in FKKs, less 8's and 9's for me. More candy I can't resist in Ecuador than in Germany.

Destination wise, another guess is that Frankfurt is so popular since so many conventions are held there. Outside of Hannover, not sure what other German centers have that many tourists who are on a business trip and might be without a "spouse". Convention centers of Germany! And so many FKKs in remote areas because they are for the locals, not just sex tourism like the RLD of frankfurt. If it were just tourists per square foot, there would be more FKKs in Berlin, I think it has to be the convention center business that helped proliferate them.

I've read a fair amount of reports that seem to suggest that some of the "upsell' goes away with 60 minutes of booking, vs 30 minutes. Not all, but some of the extras, and a few more when someone recognizes you as a repeat visitor. Long term posters say that the upsell on BBBJ is more recent. Possibly the newish law, possibly we have trained the girls to expect the money cause tourists are so happy to pay for it? CIM or on body seems as you mentioned almost always an extra. And I agree about them trying to get you to explode outside the vagina. My thought is that it is easier! Many men just come more quickly that way, so why work harder or longer than you need to? Am I cynical? YES. Finally, at least around Munich I didn't not find that many girls offering ANAL. So maybe Frankfurt? Or maybe the girls you talked to? Or maybe the night? I thought it would be more common on my last visit. On a really tangential point, if you go to Berlinintim.de you will see that most of the upsell is by 10's and 20's for kissing, BLS, etc etc. So maybe again, we've just trained the girls in the FKKs to ask for 50E.

Meeting girls outside of the candy store: I have been told by girls, when I asked, that they are occasionally on Kaufmich, or whichever online ad site is their choice, when they don't work in the FKK. Some dropped it casually, others when prompted, a few said 'never'. Granted I am NOT a frequent visitor that they would recognize me, so I guess we both don't know if this changes if you see them 3 or 4 times in a month. It is easy enough when you walk to the locker to pay them to write down their number if they wanted to offer it. It's certainly not the Latin Ameridan method of going to the payment window and just paying an "exit" fee to the house to take them back to your hotel?

One interesting side note, on the German language boards they talk abut a CE charge for the sex. In a nutshell the rate for sex equates to 1 unit of the cover charge. Again, not sure if that is because these guys are local, repeat visitors or talking often about the more remote clubs.

Finally, for what it's worth. I liked Coliseum in Augsburg, a bit of a train ride from Frankfurt. The girls are NUDE all the time, and they can not come up to you. You have to approach them! So less sharks circling the poor horny guys. I also heard dreadful things about Berlin so my next trip I will stick with Berlin Intim website.

The rest of your report kept me nodding my head, and thinking, wish I met you at the bar inside an FKK, we'd be laughing all night.

[Optimist]

..... that some of the experiences were GFE and some were not; it varied from one girl to the next. Some girls had more of a PSE vibe, at least in terms of their style and atmospherics, if not specific sex acts.

I think we can all agree on that as a summary of our trips.

I am really looking forward to reading your eye witness reports. You have certainly put the keyboard time in so far with your report on general impressions. I think you have done a good job in compiling a summary of many of the things which have been discussed on the forum over time

[Apollyon]

This post is an overview of my FKK tour; I will also be posting reviews of the FKKs that I visited.

Thank you GringoItaliano for the very detailed and memorable report. Truly superb and ever so reminiscent of some great reporting legends of the Germany FKK Clubs Board. Bitumen, Yakob and Basketcase spring to mind. Thanks again. I will avidly watch for more of your splendid reports.

[GringoItaliano]

GringoItaliano,

Are you saying that most of the girls were more so smaller spinner types? Would you say the experiences were GFE?

Also, if anyone's interested I've complied a list of FKKs, Agencies, Independents, etc. For Frankfurt specifically if anyone is interested in that data.

I would say that a high proportion of the girls were on the thin / skinny / slender / scrawny side. But keep in mind that my frame of reference for female body types draws heavily on Latin America, where they tend to run a bit thicker, and local tastes also run a bit meatier than they do in North America or Europe.

I would not say that they were smaller spinner types, however, as many of them were quite tall. Mainhattan in particular seemed to have a lot of taller girls, for whatever reason. Also, keep in mind that some of the Ukrainian, Russian, or South Slav girls can also be quite tall.

I would say that some of the experiences were GFE and some were not; it varied from one girl to the next. Some girls had more of a PSE vibe, at least in terms of their style and atmospherics, if not specific sex acts.