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  1. #7427
    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman09  [View Original Post]
    The Venezuela crisis has been good for Bogota.
    - Definitely agree. Santa Fe is amazing. It seems that I've been offered lower average prices compared to 2.5 years ago.

    - I've been asked for 25, 30, 35, 40, and 45 K pesos for a session. 30 and 40 K are the 2 numbers I hear most often. I hear 40 K around the main square block. I hear 30 K around the outskirts.

    - How long is a standard session? I guess it depends on when that dreaded knock on the door comes. Most girls say 15 or 20 minutes. Some Vennies say 30 minutes.

    - The problem is that they knock on the door after approx 12 minutes, indicating time is up. Sometimes, I get 1 hour, but the knock still comes early at 40 minutes.

    - What is the standard on who pays for the room? I thought I read that the girl pays for it if you are a local. But most of the time, the girl gets the tourist to pay for it. But some of the Vennies are so new and fresh that they haven't learned how to manipulate the customer into paying for the room.

    - What is the standard on if you pay after or before? I thought it was afterwards. Most girls demand the money upfront. Sometimes I just leave the money on the table, and they don't pick it up until afterwards.

    - I like to know the standard. More info to judge the girl. I like to get a girl for a quickie. Do a test drive. Then if everything is good, I rent them for an hour. The girls seem to be very happy with 100 K for 1 hour, with me paying for the room. I jokingly tell them, isn't the standard 70 K for 1 hour. Then they reply, yes, but that is just normal stuff. We do everything for that higher price. BBBJ, CIM, lesbian rimming. Yes they do!

    - Many girls will renege in the room. Some will not do the things they promised. Some will ask for more money. Some will say no more BBBJ after a few minutes. I try not to get angry. It is a cost of doing business, and it is so cheap.

    - Many girls in Santa Fe are decent. Some girls were stunners 20 years ago. Some girls could be stunners if they lost 20 kilos. Some girls are very cute, but are of dubious age. And of course, many girls are ugly.

    - There are some cute Vennies out there. They are desperate. It seems they are only allowed to use some of the motels since they don't have a Colombian ID. There's one that uses the motel next to California Club. Alajendra. 19 years old. No baby. Recommended. She's a white Vennie with blackish toes. She said she got frostbite walking from Cucuta to Bogota. She has only been here for a few months.

    - I much prefer Bogota's Santa Fe over Medellin's Veracruz. Bogota has so much more girls and options.

  2. #7426
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBud  [View Original Post]
    On my first trip to Santa Fe, I was paranoid. As I got more comfortable with Santa Fe, it grew on me. But, Santa Fe is still a shithole. I can't stay there 24 hours a day.

    I need to stay in an area like Zona Rosa / Zona T. I need a place to eat, drink and play poker (Casino Luckia) in safety. IMO, Zona Rosa is very safe, contrary to what some posters write.
    I don't need a Zona Rosa, but I definitely would not stay in Santa Fe either. To me, it is just a place to go get your rocks off then leave, not somewhere to make a vacation of.

  3. #7425
    Quote Originally Posted by IronQuinn  [View Original Post]
    If you like Santa Fe so much, just find a little hotel in the area and walk there, skipping the taxis.
    On my first trip to Santa Fe, I was paranoid. As I got more comfortable with Santa Fe, it grew on me. But, Santa Fe is still a shithole. I can't stay there 24 hours a day.

    I need to stay in an area like Zona Rosa / Zona T. I need a place to eat, drink and play poker (Casino Luckia) in safety. IMO, Zona Rosa is very safe, contrary to what some posters write.

  4. #7424
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBud  [View Original Post]
    - I hear conflicting opinions on whether Bogota taxis are safe or not. People write, only use Call taxis, or pretend to send a picture to a friend once you get into a taxi. Many people say taxis are safe. I am more of the later opinion (taxis are safe, especially if taken from a good area), but I am still paranoid.

    - Are taxis taken from Santa Fe safe? I am assuming they are. Are there any real stories of taxis drivers from Santa Fe mugging their customers? But because I'm paranoid, I normally only take taxis that are parked, where the taxi drivers are known.

    - It seems many parked taxis will not use their meters, especially if they are parked on that main street. I've seen drunk locals get into and then immediately out of a parked taxi. The other night, the taxi driver requested 20 K for a max 14 K fare. It is cheaper than the Uber surge price, and definitely quicker.

    - Uber sucks if you need a pick-up from Santa Fe. Many times, the Uber driver will cancel once they get to the area. They believe it's dangerous. But why the fuck do they have to wait 8 minutes to cancel. They should know what Santa Fe is. Sometimes multiple Uber drivers in a row will cancel on you. Sometimes late at night, it can take a long time to get an Uber.

    - Uber surge pricing sucks. The normal taxi meter from Santa Fe to Zona Rosa will be between 11 - 14 K. Uber will be between 10600 - 38000 pesos.
    Remember the days of flagging down a taxi, getting in, and getting dropped off at a fair price? That still exists. I always negotiate a price first, regardless of a meter, always pay for everything in cash that I brought over from home, and stay in a place where I'll be spending the most time. Do that, and you'll save yourself a lot of headaches. If you like Santa Fe so much, just find a little hotel in the area and walk there, skipping the taxis.

  5. #7423

    UBER and Meter Taxis Taken From Santa Fe

    - I hear conflicting opinions on whether Bogota taxis are safe or not. People write, only use Call taxis, or pretend to send a picture to a friend once you get into a taxi. Many people say taxis are safe. I am more of the later opinion (taxis are safe, especially if taken from a good area), but I am still paranoid.

    - Are taxis taken from Santa Fe safe? I am assuming they are. Are there any real stories of taxis drivers from Santa Fe mugging their customers? But because I'm paranoid, I normally only take taxis that are parked, where the taxi drivers are known.

    - It seems many parked taxis will not use their meters, especially if they are parked on that main street. I've seen drunk locals get into and then immediately out of a parked taxi. The other night, the taxi driver requested 20 K for a max 14 K fare. It is cheaper than the Uber surge price, and definitely quicker.

    - Uber sucks if you need a pick-up from Santa Fe. Many times, the Uber driver will cancel once they get to the area. They believe it's dangerous. But why the fuck do they have to wait 8 minutes to cancel. They should know what Santa Fe is. Sometimes multiple Uber drivers in a row will cancel on you. Sometimes late at night, it can take a long time to get an Uber.

    - Uber surge pricing sucks. The normal taxi meter from Santa Fe to Zona Rosa will be between 11 - 14 K. Uber will be between 10600 - 38000 pesos.

  6. #7422

    Scams (Targeting Tourist)

    - Overall, Columbia doesn't seem too bad scam-wise, for a "3rd" world country. It seems I get charged normal prices from food carts and restaurants without posted prices, unlike Vietnam.

    - Note, I look like a tourist. After I say anything, it's obvious I'm a tourist.

    - Taxi drivers waiting at the airport have attempted to scam me every time. I've only used it 3 times. Now I use Uber, even with the hassle of the airport pick-up. The meters in Bogota are translated via a chart to calculate the fare. The first time, the taxi driver pointed at the meter. He wanted me to pay few hundred thousand pesos, for a 30 K fare. The other 2 times, they attempted to add around 5 or 10 K pesos. They helped load and unload my luggage. Do locals tip the taxi drivers? I don't mind tipping. I was going to tip anyway. But I hate to be extorted for a tip.

    - Sometimes even away from the airport, taxi drivers attempted to get several thousand extra pesos from me. I don't believe locals tip, especially when they don't help with any bags. I normally will round up, but I hate it when they do that on their own.

    - Once in Candalaria, I got into a taxi that was just parked during rush hour. Lucky day I thought. But the meter started at 25. That probably was the old starting point. It is now at 28. My scam sensor went off. I was looking at the road / meter most of the way. I put my head down for a brief moment to look at my phone. The meter went from 60 to 90 during that time. So, be careful if any meter starts at 25.

    - Once I got a taxi to use the meter from Santa Fe. At the end of the ride, the meter was turned off and a LED display said something like the fare is X, which was several thousand pesos extra.

    - All the waiters in the Santa Fe strip clubs are ALL scammers, if you are a tourist. They added between 2 to 14 K pesos for my beer. California club was the worst. Even one bartender lied when I asked to verify. Do locals tip for a beer? I have never seen a local tip for a beer.

    - At Venus club, Club Columbia beer is 6 K. Poker is usually 1 K less. The Club Columbia beers on the other main strip clubs is either 7 or 8 K. If you guys paid 10 K for a local beer, you got ripped off. On my first night back this year, I said I would give a huge tip if any waiter gave me a beer at the correct price. None did. Now if any waiter overcharges me, I don't tip. But now, some waiters recognize me, and they don't overcharge me, forcing me to give my normal 2 K tip. LOL!

    - When you use your USA credit card, most local credit card processors will give an option to charge either US dollars or COP. If US dollar is selected, they will charge 3.5% extra. IMO, that's a scam.

  7. #7421
    Quote Originally Posted by Routard  [View Original Post]
    In Colombia people use cash to pay the most unlikely things. I sold my car 2 month ago, the woman took the cash money from her handbag as if she was paying a coffee. People queue every month to pay cash their gas, electricity, water, phone bill or apartment rental. And a hooker will ask a bank account transfer???
    The reason for the widespread use of cash is that the banks charge too much for almost everything: ATM withdrawals, ATM balance check, credit card monthly fee, debit card monthly fee, etc etc some banks even charge a fee for the sole reason of having an account with them. This has led to people from lower incomes stopping usage of banks altogether.

  8. #7420
    Quote Originally Posted by Cbmcpa  [View Original Post]
    This is on point-.

    Don't. I repeat. Don't fall in love. Do not. Do not. Why am I saying this. Because I did. And it didn't end well unfortunately. I didn't even meet a working girl. Met her on the cable car going up to Parque Arvi in Medellin with her son. The problem. They know you are leaving. And they don't want that. So even if they are sincere (mine was. I think) they need you to live there. Those that are working. Well that's another story.
    Met 2 girls in a cable car coming down from Parque Arvi. They were very friendly and I could have easily chosen one for nocturnal action. But then I figured that's one girl for the same amount of time as I can bang many hookers and I bummed out. The girls did not look happy when I did not ask for their contacts.

  9. #7419
    Quote Originally Posted by YippieKayay  [View Original Post]
    Sometimes they are just weak men who can't find anyone except a prostitute to be with them.
    "Weak men"? That's very good on the self-awareness aspect.

  10. #7418

    Mezzanine

    On the corner across from the gas station. Up the stairs. You can't miss it.

  11. #7417
    Quote Originally Posted by Cbmcpa  [View Original Post]
    I'm a newb and heading to Bogota on Thursday - 9/26-9/30.

    Not sure I'll be able to find - "a 2-story commercial building on the next corner south from Parque Calle 106" (what's the cross street).

    Could you be a little descriptive as to the address. Thanks. Def. Want to check out the mezzanine (s).
    You'll find them easily enough. It's actually quite obvious once you're there.

    There are very cute girls there, but be prepared for some very small spaces and a real lack of privacy.

  12. #7416

    Map

    It is on this Map:

    https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?h...781673068&z=14

    Quote Originally Posted by Cbmcpa  [View Original Post]
    I'm a newb and heading to Bogota on Thursday - 9/26-9/30.

    Not sure I'll be able to find - "a 2-story commercial building on the next corner south from Parque Calle 106" (what's the cross street).

    Could you be a little descriptive as to the address. Thanks. Def. Want to check out the mezzanine (s).

  13. #7415
    IMHO Santa Fe is overrated, well unless you like those cheap, mostly unattractive "street sweeties". Tijuana has hotter girls for maybe 50% more dinero. I've been there more times than I can remember. SA is a good option in Colombia, saves time but costs 4 X more than Santa Fe. Sill cheap compared to USA. Tried the 49 club but was a Thursday and it was dead. I will come back. Knowledge is power. You need to decide how much time you have to search. Thanks Woodman..
    Haven't been there in 10 years but back then there were many hotties. With the influx of Venezolanas, I got to believe there are more. Ill be there this weekend. Can't wait to see what's up. Thanks for your report.

  14. #7414

    Kick in the balls

    Happy they didn't have a knife.

    Quote Originally Posted by DonCarlos1234  [View Original Post]
    My first night here.

    Was attacked crossing main street in front of Bagata Towers by 2 teenagers trying to steal a wallet. I kicked one in the balls the other I held off till 6-7 motorcycle cops showed up and beat the hell out of the thieves.

    Second day / night / Wednesday.

    Met my tour guide it's drizzling. She is young, smart, speaks 5 languages and good looking. Was an amazing 7 hours walking / talking / learning about Bogota. Botero Museum, Candelaria historical sites. I'm keeping her contact info. The evening was just as amazing. Met a blonde (10+ girl of my dreams) from SA. She came to the Bagata. 300,000 COP It would be difficult to find anyone like her in the USA unless you wanted to spend a few thousand dollars. I interviewed 50+ girls on SA. There are gems there, some speak English but it takes time. Most are above hooker quality, some are hookers.

    3rd day / night Thursday Woodman.

    Was pick pocketed (I had a fake wallet with $50 in it, fake ID's) again in front of the Bagata towers downtown. Walking the street with Woodman looking for Colombian phone chip...

  15. #7413
    Quote Originally Posted by DonCarlos1234  [View Original Post]
    My first night here.

    Was attacked crossing main street in front of Bagata Towers by 2 teenagers trying to steal a wallet. I kicked one in the balls the other I held off till 6-7 motorcycle cops showed up and beat the hell out of the thieves.

    Second day / night / Wednesday.

    Met my tour guide it's drizzling. She is young, smart, speaks 5 languages and good looking. Was an amazing 7 hours walking / talking / learning about Bogota. Botero Museum, Candelaria historical sites. I'm keeping her contact info. The evening was just as amazing. Met a blonde (10+ girl of my dreams) from SA. She came to the Bagata. 300,000 COP It would be difficult to find anyone like her in the USA unless you wanted to spend a few thousand dollars. I interviewed 50+ girls on SA. There are gems there, some speak English but it takes time. Most are above hooker quality, some are hookers..
    Great post, thanks for sharing. I too seldom will do a repeat of a girl however on night this past visit to SF in April I met this most sexy rolla at Troya and had to repeat the next night and let me say that if I did not have to leave I would probably been back for even more, why? She was so damn sexy, not a stunner but something about her attitude and flirtations that I could die for.

    The Tall Man.

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