Kyiv

[Riina]

Riina's photos?

The body is good. But the face? The hair is badly colored. The eyes are thick. Without her grin, the face would look even more ordinary. I guess a 4 or 5. Not even close to a 7. But often girls look better in reality than in photos.

Clearly your business in Ukraine is photography and not mongering. That girl was a beginner from a village with a very nice personality. She had far greater value than a hardened skank with all the makeup. Kozerog is the only one here that could see it.

Just so you guys know, a year later she was posting photos of herself on FB in $1000 a night hotels in Dubai. She stopped talking to me and I never saved any of her pictures. I did take a screenshot of her Whatsapp. Same girl as the cutie I posted in my apartment. I guess the ladies mentioned here from Mamba, Rio, and KEC must be 2's and 3's because she never needed any of that shit.

[Walky23]

Still living and working in Kyiv but have had a number of regular girlfriends and have been out of touch with the pay to play scene for nearly two years. Became single again recently and have been searching for girls to sponsor and already have been chatting with a few prospects. Some of the girls I used to sponsor and once messaged me regularly have dropped out of the game and no longer are interested. One very nice piece of ass I was tagging in summer 2016 when she was in university has grown alarmingly obese. You could make twins out of her now.

I live in the center of Kyiv which is a plus. I find Tinder is not the best place to find girls as they are more expensive than other places. For example, I met a pretty blonde 18-year old student who was very attractive but wants 300 USD to meet. No thanks. You can get some damn good scotch for 300 USD. A lot of pretty co-eds offering erotic massages with happy endings but nothing more.

I'll post any results should I find someone I like. Now that the students are back, there will be more pussy available, I'm sure.

I am into students as well. Its becoming harder to separate the wheat from the chaff. My main options are SA / Tinder / Instagram / classifieds. Tried all this with varying luck. Which clubs do most of the students hang out? Is it better to meet them at the coffee shops and strike a conversation and eventually become a sponsor for them.

[Gopnik]

Still living and working in Kyiv but have had a number of regular girlfriends and have been out of touch with the pay to play scene for nearly two years. Became single again recently and have been searching for girls to sponsor and already have been chatting with a few prospects. Some of the girls I used to sponsor and once messaged me regularly have dropped out of the game and no longer are interested. One very nice piece of ass I was tagging in summer 2016 when she was in university has grown alarmingly obese. You could make twins out of her now.

I live in the center of Kyiv which is a plus. I find Tinder is not the best place to find girls as they are more expensive than other places. For example, I met a pretty blonde 18-year old student who was very attractive but wants 300 USD to meet. No thanks. You can get some damn good scotch for 300 USD. A lot of pretty co-eds offering erotic massages with happy endings but nothing more.

I'll post any results should I find someone I like. Now that the students are back, there will be more pussy available, I'm sure.

[Jojosun]

Turkey is so popular, because it is cheap and beautiful. One week all-inclusive for 150 $-200 $ is no problem. Even during the season. Turkish men are rather unpopular. That's why many Turks are keeping silent about their origins. They say they come from Italy or Greece.

Massage girls and few others told me, Turkish Guys are too Touchy Feely, which I guess is part of their Culture. The more educated and sophisticated Turkish guys must have up their sleeves better games and plans.

[Misterxxx]

Do not be so defensive. It is just a fact. Ukrainians relate more to Europeans over Indians. They also know most EU countries are wealthy compared to UA. India has a lot of rich people, but overall it is a poor country. No girl wants to move from Kyiv to India, but many want to move to the EU.

Someone brought up Turkey and Ukrainians are very familiar with Turkey because it is a popular tourist destination. Pretty much every girl you will meet in Kyiv has been to Antalya or knows someone that has. People like what is familiar. Same goes for a Korean guy in Japan will probably have an easier time meeting Japanese girls than a guy from Peru.

Turkey is so popular, because it is cheap and beautiful. One week all-inclusive for 150 $-200 $ is no problem. Even during the season. Turkish men are rather unpopular. That's why many Turks are keeping silent about their origins. They say they come from Italy or Greece.

[NorskKing]

Lot of energy I'd spent in this forum to prove / disprove the existence of easy sex in Ukraine.

The point is simple, how easy is it compared to other European countries?

I haven't traveled to Maldova yet, but I find Ukraine very easy to score in terms of game or escorts or with are the sonable price (within 2000 uah for 20 year old).

In Germany its complete different scenario, very easy to score but quite mechanical in my experience (with escorts).

Focus on your points guys. What is it you are trying to prove?

[TinyHippo]

Loaded statement about Indians. Tunnel vision?? Which East Asian country are you from BTW?

Do not be so defensive. It is just a fact. Ukrainians relate more to Europeans over Indians. They also know most EU countries are wealthy compared to UA. India has a lot of rich people, but overall it is a poor country. No girl wants to move from Kyiv to India, but many want to move to the EU.

Someone brought up Turkey and Ukrainians are very familiar with Turkey because it is a popular tourist destination. Pretty much every girl you will meet in Kyiv has been to Antalya or knows someone that has. People like what is familiar. Same goes for a Korean guy in Japan will probably have an easier time meeting Japanese girls than a guy from Peru.

[Misterxxx]

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The above, gentleman, is the useful information I was looking for. Photoslider is comparing real agency girls to a realistic photo of another real girl. Reality, not fantasy or trick photography. Final conclusion is that girls similar to or better than Riina's continue to be widely available in Kyiv for 2000 uah/hour or thereabouts. In other words, Kyiv is not "ruined", contrary to what the naysayers say.

Don't forget: 1 Year ago 2000 UAH were 70 Dollars. Now 2000 UAH are 85 Dollars. And you can be sure: Near to Christmas your 2000 UAH will be 100 Dollars. At the moment, speculators buy Ukrainian government bonds like crazy. That affects the course massively. At the same time, all other prices in hryvnia increased. Taxis, restaurants, nightclubs.

[Kozerog]

Here are photos of a girl in my apartment.

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Half of the girls I had delivered by different agencies during this 7 weeks stay have been this good {as Riina's girll}. And you may imagine and speculate all you please.

The above, gentleman, is the useful information I was looking for. Photoslider is comparing real agency girls to a realistic photo of another real girl. Reality, not fantasy or trick photography. Final conclusion is that girls similar to or better than Riina's continue to be widely available in Kyiv for 2000 uah/hour or thereabouts. In other words, Kyiv is not "ruined", contrary to what the naysayers say.

I will also add to my previous evaluation that Riina's girl might look much worse in real life than in her photo, but she might also look much better. Given that Riina called her a "hard 7" (those damned numbers again) and given how negative Riina is at times, I'm assuming the girl's face looks a little better in reality (good lighting and no forced smile) than her photo.

Not sure how this is different from the above in be. Please explain.

Maybe different wording might help me decide in borderline cases. Maybe a girl is objectively pretty, so I can't complain about looks, but I don't like the attitude in her facisl expression so I don't want sex with her.

[PhotoSlider]

a) Would I feel embarrassed or proud to be seen holding hands with her in public while she was wearing a bikini? Answer: proud (not that I'm too concerned about what other people think any more).

If she is in bikini. I would be proud for her.

Body is at least 9. Cannot see the tummy and butt, but intuition tells me she's fine all over. I like how she moves in those photos.

Her hair is done at least 7, maybe even 8.

Face is difficult to judge. Her face muscles are tense, because she is a little shy while this photo is taken. Relaxed she could be much much more beautiful. I am saying this as a Photo Slider.

b) If an agency delivered a girl like that, how would I feel? Answer: pleased, exceeds expectations.

If she doesn't smoke, and has proper manners, attire and attidue upon arrival, not overworked with bags under her eyes, I would take her for no more than 2000. I would be surprised if she goes under 1600.

Any hint of misbehavior and she is sent back.

c) Would I like to have this girl in bed with me now? Answer: yes.

Not sure how this is different from the above in be. Please explain.

Yes I am in Kiev now. Yes I had the case of morning wood at 7 am, and yes I am still horny. In that respect. Sure, my answer is yes.

Half of the girls I had delivered by different agencies during this 7 weeks stay have been this good. And you may imagine and speculate all you please.

[EditFun01]

Loaded statement about Indians. Tunnel vision?? Which East Asian country are you from BTW?

Not sure which Kiev he is talking about, at present Turkish boys are having most fun is Kiev. Aggressive and focus on the target.

[HobbyMan6969]

Wednesday night adventures: I went back to scarlette to try and take home the blonde I was really into. She said she wanted me to take her home today. So I go there and meet her and have drinks and food. About 1 1/2 hours later we leave after paying the 7400 gryvnia fee for take out. Now the disappointment, a mixture of having whiskey dick and that she was inexperienced aka dead fuck. She had to google translate talk to me so she asked if we could just sleep and I was like hell nah. I told her business is business so she said she recently got a boyfriend that made her mad that night. I was like I'll take care of you babe. However, my reality was that it was like fucking a dead fish the whole time, no emotion and no trying to make me feel good. I finished the deed around 1:20 am so I thought she was going to go back to the club and try to squeeze in some more money. However, she just went to sleep so I let her sleep. I read the girls usually go back to the strip club because they have to if under 5 am. Well, she slept the whole time and slept until 9:20 in the morning. I tried to get a 2nd pop but she wasn't having it and got dressed, walked outside to talk to her boyfriend and left crying. LOL well, I was hoping for a great night because I was so attracted to her. Well, I got until Oct. 2 to get in a few more bangs. I am going to try and walk around and get numbers for dates. My backup plan is mama, Caribbean club, and rio take out.

Thursday night it was raining lightly so I didn't have a chance to walk around (no umbrella). I decided to head out to Caribbean club. It was an older crowd of women and men again with the same hookers I seen last week walking around. One girl who was 7. 5 rating quoted me 200 dollars. I was hesitant and told her I would think about it. A tall girl (6 foot 2) walks in and was stunning (I would rate an 8). I wait till she gets to the bar to talk to her. She quotes me 300 us dollars an hour. I really didn't want to spend this kinda money all throughout my vacation here as it raises the prices for everyone else and it makes me go broke faster. I was hoping to score these 7's and 8's for 2000 gryvnia. The reality is for what's left of hot girls in Kiev that are pro will charge the foreigners 200 to 300 us dollars for 2-3 hours. I still believe you can get the under 6 rating girls for 100 us dollars or less. Well, back to my write up the tall girl made me so horny so I accepted. She got back to my place I had to pay 500 gryvnia to buy her out of Caribbean club for take out plus the 300 usd in gryvnia for her services. I think Caribbean club hires some girls to "work" here. The tall girl ended up being around 5 foot 11 without heels. She really knew how to work it and the money was well spent.

[ArisCasa]

Maybe not if you are from India or something, but if you are from the EU or USA / similar country with money, you will have a good time if you spend a week there. .

Loaded statement about Indians. Tunnel vision?? Which East Asian country are you from BTW?

[HobbyMan6969]

Enjoying your reports Hobbyman, I am considering going next month. How was Caribean Club?

Would it be possible to pick up an older/fat girl in the Caribbean Club for 1000 or less?

I didn't hit on the older / fat girls so I can't really say if you can. You can definitely tell who are the ladies of the night and who aren't.

The legit ones older / fat girls that are there to party with their friends you can probably buy them a drink and suggest later to go to your place.

Maybe for gift (1000 gryvnia).

[Wanking]

Last resort I go to Caribbean club later on and see what talent is out there.

Enjoying your reports Hobbyman, I am considering going next month. How was Caribean Club?

Would it be possible to pick up an older/fat girl in the Caribbean Club for 1000 or less?