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  1. #7442

    7 Days Bogota and 3 in Cali

    Recently returned from a 10 day combined 7 day Bogota and 3 day Cali trip. (not including two days of travel time).

    To help plan the trip like to thank World Travel 69, for his great maps, and Tomjackin for his many contributions and great Cali trip report. Had the pleasure of meeting both of these guys in Quito seems like about 3-4 years ago. Also like to thank Woodman for his Santa Fe tour. More about that below. And Routard for his amazing and comprehensive report.

    Arrived at the Ibis Museo hotel in Bogota, (recommended on this board), very late Friday night. The Ibis I'd consider to be a mid range hotel and not a bad deal for $45 per night. It had a good buffet breakfast and I had lunch and dinner there a few times. And of course the big advantage is that it is within 15 minutes walking distance to the Santa Fe Red light district.

    Saturday.

    Was feeling a bit wiped out Saturday morning but couldn't sleep so decided to check out the Chapinero area for daytime casas following the WT 69 map First tried to find Chicas Mellenio recommended by Routard but should have read more recent reports that showed it to have moved from it's calle 71 location. There was another casa right in the same area but I was not impressed by the selection of 4 to 5 girls. It was early though. 11 am so that could have had something to do with it.

    Walking from Calle 71 to around calle 61 I found Bellezas and Figuras which had 4 to 5 girls available. I'd rate them Ok but not great and so I passed. Looked for Pussy House in the same area and found it but that was around 3 pm and it was basicly empty. Not sure if it was even open. All in all I was off to a slow start but it was partly my own fault as I was just getting my bearings and adapting to the somewhat confusing by USA Standards street address numbering. I think it's possible also as Woodman told me that the daytime casas are better Monday to Friday. I learned over time also that it could be easier and faster to walk than to take Uber or a taxi. Some uber drivers were pretty skilled in getting around congested traffic but most were not.

    Met Woodman at the Ibis seems like around 4 PM Saturday. We then walked to Santa Fe from there. About half of the 15 minute walk looks a bit sketchy but plenty of other pedestrians so I'm sure not dangerous at all until late at night if then. I did make the walk around 8 to 9 pm a couple of times and it seemed reasonably safe walking east on calle 24 past avenida Caracas and to carrera 7 and then north to the Ibis.

    Woodman started the tour around calle 19 or 20 and we cruised north checking out carreras 15 and 16 up to the main bar areas between calles 23 and 24. Some reports have advised to steer clear of anything south of 23 but I don't think that area is dangerous except perhaps very late. In general I found carrera 15, (the closest street parallel to avenida Caracas) to be the main street girl area all the way from calle 19 and 20 up to 24. There's some on carrera 16 also but mainly only from calle 22 or 23 up to 24.

    Woodman did a great job of showing me about. Thanks Woodman! Even though it was early around 5 to 6 pm there were quite a lot of street girls out and Woodman explained that it would get even better and it did. We stopped and talked to a few of them. I speak passable Spanish so that's extremely helpful. I was trying for a BBBJ though and probably about 3/4 ths of them would not do that. The prices were quite amazing though at 25 to 40 mil (8 to 13 dollars! I'd offer double that for BBBJ and besos. No sense in negotiating hard at these prices. LOL.

    Finally found one who met all of my requirements. She was quite good looking by my tastes Said 20 and looked it. Slim but curvy, light skinned morena Vennie. Seemed like a great attitude and pretty face and I fell in love. I don't recall the exact final price as she was upselling me in the room but I think it worked out to about 100 mil total for 30-40 minutes and that included CIM. Wow! 30 dollars for all that! Got her whatsapp number and left.

    Woodman graciously waited for me and then we hit the main bar area. Venus was good at the slightly lower end in girl quality and prices. Troya was a bit too loud for me although plenty of girls. My favorite was Atunes. Loud but not as loud as Troya and a high density of attractive girls. The tour was mostly over by then but once in the main bar area it felt safe to be on my own. The bars were fun and the women on average somewhat better and friendlier than the street girls. Got myself a 15 mil naked table dance. Wow! This was with an exceptionally good looking 33 year old vennie. Would have not guessed 33 but did look over 25. Very fine looking and this was a full contact nude dance! I was spent though and called it a night.

    Sunday.

    I tried to hook up again with the previous days street girl but she was not responding on whatsapp. She did eventually respond but by then it was too late. Ended up doing another even better looking SG. Super shapely 19 year old vennie who agreed to BBBJ. This girl was talented but it was a bit mechanical and passionless and she would not go for CIM either. Did get a nice picture of her backside though to remind me of her smoking body. Can't recall the overall price. 70 mil at most.

    Monday.

    I used this day mostly for tourist activity and then unexpectedly got caught up in having to do some work remotely. Went to Pussy house seems like around 7-8 PM. It was just heating up at that time. Had one girl aggressively attach herself to me but she wasn't particularly to my liking. Then met another one who I was quite enthralled with. Very well built and somewhat native looking which is not necessarily my type but this girl definitely had something Could have gone to an onsite room for 70-80 k for an hour but all covered so I passed. Got her whatsapp for possibilities at my hotel another day but when I contacted her the next day she claimed to have gone too the nearby town Tunja due to family issues. Not sure I would have pulled the trigger in any case if she insisted on everything covered but maybe. Pussy House was a large American style strip bar. I liked it on the whole although with my non fluent Spanish the loud music made communication difficult. Beer was 8 k per bottle I recall.

    Tuesday.

    Met up with the first day Vennie again on Tuesday evening. Unfortunately she had turned in to a bit of a shark and I let my guard down. I paid 150 mil this time up front for one hour of what I thought would be a repeat of the first time. It wasn't! Everything was an upsell in the room. Even Besos which I though was a given based on the prior experience. Pictures? Extra! Somehow I talked her in to a BBBJ CIM again same as first time (which I thought was already the deal) by hinting dishonestly at repeat business. The whole thing was over in about 25 minutes even though I paid for the hour. Fine by me since she seemed like a different girl than the first time.

    After that she bugged me incessantly via whatsapp to come back for another round. But then the shoe was on the other foot. Was mostly just a fun exercise to see what she would agree to. Pay afterwards? Sure! BBBJ? CIM?. BESOS? YES definitely all included! Never even got around to the price but I'm sure that would easily go lower too. So lesson learned. If I ever go back to Santa Fe. I'll offer MORE than the standard rates but only if they accept payment after!

    Wednesday.

    I checked out the Mezannine and Abudubai. Both in the afternoon. Mezannine was pretty much as described in other reports. Above average girls but not spectacular. Drawback for me though was everything covered. I checked out Abudubai next. Out of 7 or 8 available at least 3 or 4 were top notch. I still did not partake though as I brought only 140 mil in cash and the price was 180! I was thinking this would just be a scouting trip for a future day but half changed my mind once I saw what was available! I left Abudubai and a block or 2 away a lady struck up a conversation with me asking me what I was looking for.

    She then led me to Sensity which was close by in walking distance and said that Sensity was affiliated with Abudubai or same ownership or something like that. Told her about my lack of funds and she said something could be worked out. Believe it or not Sensity actually had even MORE top notch girls then abudubai. Picked a girl I'd rate as a solid 8 and with a very sweet personality too. She was Colombian and looked mostly caucasian and about 22 but deflected the question about her age so could have been older. BBBJ was included but not CIM. Only regret was not bringing enough pesos for an hour. I did get her whatsapp though and she was agreeable to go to my hotel after 7 PM for 230 mil for an hour on another day. That was tempting.

    Thursday Cali.

    Took a quick 40 minute plane ride to Cali and was there by 1 PM. Round trip from Bogota cost only $86 on Avianca. Stayed at the Ibis Granada. This was noticeably better than the Ibis Museo in Bogota and for only $30 per night and it's also in a fairly nice area within walking distance of many bars and restaurants.

    That afternoon and in to the night I started checking out many of the spots recommended by Tomjackin. Doctor Amor, Caras Lindas, Eventos Liz and Flores Frescas among others. Didn't have the energy to partake so this was basicly just a scouting mission Eventos Liz seemed a bit rough around the edges but I liked it and it had a couple of doable chicas in the later afternoon when I was there. Got to Flores Frescas around 8 PM but that was somewhat too early. Or maybe not because I was the only customer for a half hour with 5 or 6 available chicas. They were mostly decent but not good enough for me to pull the trigger which I wasn't planning on anyway.

    Dr. Amor showed me a line up of about 7 or 8 fairly decent looking ones. My only minor complaint about Dr Amor is that it may have become too popular. More customers in the waiting area than available girls. I know that it's not your girl, "It's your turn", but it makes it easier to put that out of my mind without so many other guys around LOL.

    I found Caras Lindas girls to be the same quality or almost as good as Dr. Amor but in a less factory like setting and for a lower price. Although with less to choose from also. At least when I was there in late afternoon.

    Friday Cali.

    I scouted out casas in the morning and based on the enticing pictures in a mileroticos ad, I took an uber to Masajes Erotico del Norte. On calle 48. I recall I got there by 11 am. Was the only customer and they showed me a lineup of 12 introducing themselves one at a time! Wow! At least half I would be happy with. Hard to choose but I chose the last one presented. A curvy 23 year old mulatta with a perfectly shaped butt and a fantastic attitude. Seemed thrilled to be with me. Regular pricing was 70 mil for an hour. An extra 30-40 mil for BBBJ CIM. Got some wonderful pictures even including face pics. Had a great rapport with her in the room even with my less than fluent spanish. Got her whatsapp and left quite happy.

    Saturday Cali.

    Decided to give Dr. Amor another try 1 PM in the afternoon. Less than 5 girls to choose from and seemed like at least 7 or 8 guys in the waiting room. I chose a fairly attractive one but the session was kind of ho hum. BBBJ for an extra 50 k but no CIM, no besos and no pictures. Maybe my fault because I forgot to negotiate all that up front. Great looking girl but a kind of ho hum session. Couple of hours later I was feeling bored and decided to whatsapp the Calle 48 girl just for company over dinner. She arrived at my hotel around 7:30.

    We hit a couple of bars that were within walking distance. It was quite a strain for my spanish to keep up with her rapid fire delivery but she had no trouble understanding me at least. It felt very much more like being on a hot date than being with a hooker. She claimed that she had gotten no customers all day without me asking about it and seemed quite genuinely taken with my "ojitos lindos" Beautiful eyes. Always love it when they flatter my blue eyes.

    Had a very fun 2-3 hours bar hopping before heading back to the hotel. She was coy about it but basicly invited herself to stay at my hotel over night even though I had to leave the next morning at 8 am back to Bogota. We had already agreed to 200 mil for an indeterminate amount of time and she was polite enough to at least not ask for more money for the over night.

    Unfortunately I did not have a lot left over after the earlier Dr. Amor trip in the room. She tried everything imaginable by way of GFE for a couple of hours and I had the most fun I've ever had with a girl without having an orgasm. (although I came close). Then fell asleep by around midnight with her wrapping her naked self around me. Nice. Next morning I gave her 250 mil which she seemed happy with plus taxi money. I'm still exchanging passionate text messages and pictures with her a few days later back home! Damn!

    Sunday (2nd one).

    Took an early flight out and back to Bogota and the Ibis Museo. Just a day of relaxation.

    Monday (2nd one).

    Decided to give the chapinero day casas another try Monday morning. I was much better prepared this time. Took an uber to La Bonita Spa on Calle 67 but at 10 am was too early and only a couple of available chicas. My memory is a bit hazy but I think I looked but could not find Sirenitas which was supposed to be across the street. Then walked a couple of blocks down to Palmeras Real. Only a couple of chicas available there also but one was very tempting. Checked out the other couple of casas in the same area and decided to kill an hour having lunch and come back at 12. Good decision.

    After 12 I visited Gaticas on Caracas near 64. Was a pretty mediocre selection of about 5 and I left. Then visited Rosaquillas and another casa close by which had only a small number available. Then I walked back up to the Palmeras Real area and went in to Casa Verde. And that's where I struck gold. I was the only customer and 12 chicas came out in a very crowded line up all at the same time! A bit overwhelming and intoxicating. I picked one and she sat down with me. But on closer inspection I could see that it was not the best pick.

    Luckily alot of the other 12 had also sat down near by and I made the switch to a different one. She quoted 70 mil for the hour and 40 mil for 30 minutes plus 10 mil for the room. I asked her how much more for BBBJ and besos. Only 15 mil! Got to the upstairs room and she added 10 mil for pictures. This girl was delightful. Maybe 5 foot 2, morena, Venezuelan, beautiful face. Said she was 22 but I would have guessed 19. Slim figure but still some curves and chest. Also had a very agreeable and pleasant attitude. Slight baby damage but hardly noticable. Pictures including face and body pictures together no problem at all. I was in love. 25 mil more for CIM. Her BBBJ technique was exquisite. The best of the trip. And the regular sex was exceptional too. Very hard not to end it that way.

    Ended up finishing up just under the 30 minutes. Would have gladly extended that if need be. She then suggested that I take down her number for a possible all nighter and asked what hotel I was in. How much? 200 mil! OMG! That's like $60 USA! For a girl of that quality I would have seriously considered $200. Would have been 3-400 in Tijuana. Dang! Really should have met her on the first day instead of the last.

    Next day Tuesday I took an early flight out to get back home. Very fun trip and I come down firmly on the side of Colombia being much better in quality not to mention price compared to Tijuana to add my two cents to that debate. Not saying Tijuana's not fine. It is. But Bogota is much better and Cali is better yet than Bogota. In my humble opinion!

  2. #7441

    That's quite a saving

    Thanks Routard. I read some good reviews on some Spanish forums for the LaCelestina agency. Will try them out and use your recommended approach.

    Quote Originally Posted by Routard  [View Original Post]
    You can ask for an escort for an hour and once she is there negociate with her directly. You will both avoid the agency fee that is roughly 50%.

  3. #7440
    Quote Originally Posted by Kunjur  [View Original Post]
    Hi all,

    Heading to Bogota for the first time over a long weekend in November. Not too keen on partaking in the SantaFe streetwalker scene (considering the time I am there for) and looking for a independent / agency route. If I like the lady, may do the whole night. Is it possible to negotiate with the agency escorts to come as independents for a longer period of time? Any recommendations on agencies or independents? You can PM me as well.

    Thank you in advance.
    You can ask for an escort for an hour and once she is there negociate with her directly. You will both avoid the agency fee that is roughly 50%.

  4. #7439
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    That is not what I said.
    True, I stand corrected on my misquote.

    However;.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    You have to be a MAN. If you haven't made a woman cry, you have no business being in a relationship with her.
    Totally disagree with your above statement.

    I've had many great relationships with no crying from anyone involved, LOL.

    Including my current favorita en Rio, for about 18 months now.

    No crying, just love, LOL.

    See Pic (following your lead of posting convos, LOL).
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  5. #7438
    Quote Originally Posted by Balboa  [View Original Post]
    Haha, that's your opinion, and total BS IMO.

    You're not a man unless you make a woman cry?
    Hmmmm, OK.
    In your world.
    That is not what I said.

  6. #7437

    Agencies and Independents

    Hi all,

    Heading to Bogota for the first time over a long weekend in November. Not too keen on partaking in the SantaFe streetwalker scene (considering the time I am there for) and looking for a independent / agency route. If I like the lady, may do the whole night. Is it possible to negotiate with the agency escorts to come as independents for a longer period of time? Any recommendations on agencies or independents? You can PM me as well.

    Thank you in advance.

  7. #7436
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    And when it is done that way you can not get them to leave! You can not be a creme puff when it comes to women. You have to be a MAN. If you haven't made a woman cry, you have no business being in a relationship with her.
    Haha, that's your opinion, and total BS IMO.

    You're not a man unless you make a woman cry?
    Hmmmm, OK.
    In your world.

  8. #7435
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    I think we're talking 2 different things here. Maybe I've got you wrong, but I don't see you throwing yourself at some girls feet and begging her not to leave you. More than likely, if she wants to leave, you're holding the door for her with one hand while scrolling through your contacts for a replacement.
    And when it is done that way you can not get them to leave! You can not be a creme puff when it comes to women. You have to be a MAN. If you haven't made a woman cry, you have no business being in a relationship with her.
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  9. #7434
    Quote Originally Posted by Magaman  [View Original Post]
    Can I call dibs on this one if you dump her?
    LOL. I don't see that happening, but if it does, sure.

  10. #7433

    Dibs

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    There was a teacher I had seen. She wasn't as stunning but very attractive. She was like an 8 out of 10, but she was very upbeat, lit up the room with her smile, and children unlike my ex ran up to her as if they were life long friends. When we first met, I was between hotels, and she helped me pack and move. Instead of asking for an Uber, she took the bus and was happy to do so. She was an incredibly giving lover. We never talked price, and when I did finally give her money, she said, "I am not here for that" and didn't even count it.

    Still, if this doesn't work out, I will probably give up on a LTR with a Latin American woman and focus on American women. It's just hard given the higher quality of woman available in the South American countries.
    Can I call dibs on this one if you dump her?

  11. #7432
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I beg to differ. I have been in relationships with women from various countries for the last 20 years and have not had any heartache or anything ending badly. Most I could even call tomorrow if I wanted to start again. And these are women that I have given ZERO money to. You gave no specifics on why not. You just ordered everyone DON'T! Care to elaborate? These are recent conversations with exes from Brazil, Peru, Venezuela, and Colombia.
    I think we're talking 2 different things here. Maybe I've got you wrong, but I don't see you throwing yourself at some girls feet and begging her not to leave you. More than likely, if she wants to leave, you're holding the door for her with one hand while scrolling through your contacts for a replacement.

    Don't fall in love is a warning for the first timers. It can be overwhelming having some girl 20-30 years younger hanging on you and telling you how much she loves you. It doesn't make it easier when she's much hotter than the girls who were hanging on you when you were 20-30 years younger.

  12. #7431
    Quote Originally Posted by Cbmcpa  [View Original Post]
    Don't. I repeat. Don't fall in love. Do not. Do not. Why am I saying this. Because I did. And it didn't end well unfortunately. I didn't even meet a working girl. Met her on the cable car going up to Parque Arvi in Medellin with her son. The problem. They know you are leaving. And they don't want that. So even if they are sincere (mine was. I think) they need you to live there. Those that are working. Well that's another story.
    I beg to differ. I have been in relationships with women from various countries for the last 20 years and have not had any heartache or anything ending badly. Most I could even call tomorrow if I wanted to start again. And these are women that I have given ZERO money to. You gave no specifics on why not. You just ordered everyone DON'T! Care to elaborate? These are recent conversations with exes from Brazil, Peru, Venezuela, and Colombia.
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  13. #7430
    Quote Originally Posted by Cbmcpa  [View Original Post]
    Don't. I repeat. Don't fall in love. Do not. Do not. Why am I saying this. Because I did. And it didn't end well unfortunately. I didn't even meet a working girl. Met her on the cable car going up to Parque Arvi in Medellin with her son. The problem. They know you are leaving. And they don't want that. So even if they are sincere (mine was. I think) they need you to live there. Those that are working. Well that's another story.
    Most times, you fall in love, it is not going to end well, and there is going to be pain. Half of all marriages. On the other hand, my ex kind of showed me that deep down that I wanted a stable relationship but it turns out it was not with her. But I think it's important to point out that some STRs are a pain too: no shows, poor performance ETC.

    This last trip to Colombia I only focused on the women I had previously met. I had my fun or two on Santa Fe and with a few of the younger women I had previously met and two new ones, but they were definitely more escorts than SBs. Out of the dozen or more I met, there were two that I had met that had LTR potential, and they both worked so I wasn't able to spend much time with them.

    One worked at a store in the mall, was free one day away a week and was in her 30's. This was the kind of woman everyone told me to look for. She was either #1 or #2 in terms of being striking, competed back in the day in the Ms. Venezuela competition even though she had dual Venezuelan-Colombian citizenship, and I could see why. She had a perfect hour glass figure, clothes were well picked out and put together, and she sang a song for me that was indistinguishable from the original and was pitch perfect. She danced like a pro and had, and I don't know how to describe this, an incredibly sexy walk. She told me that she hadn't had sex in a year, and given how tight she was, how horny she was, and how bad she was at giving head, I believed her. Once again, we spent all night going at it, and the next day we went to the mall. It was there that things got rocky.

    She works in a mall, and I think that she has had to see time and again, things that she wants and can't have. She wanted everything, and it was so bad I put her on a budget. She fretted at first but then lived within it. Her needs were getting out of debt. Once she did that, she could get a Spanish passport and could travel visa free to the USA Whenever she wanted. Thing was if I got her out of debt, she was free to see any other American guy as well. During our mall trip, she spent half of what it would have cost to get her out of debt.

    During the time, I communicated with the ex, and I realized that this woman brought to the table the same things the ex did. In the end, she would be there for sex, companionship, and to have a beautiful, talented, and highly intelligent woman on my arm, and that was it. In return, she would expect to be pampered, to eat at the best restaurants, have the most fashionable clothes ETC, and she showed less restraint with this than my ex did. I remembered what the psychologist on narcissism had said: you want a partner who makes you feel good. This was a woman who could make you look good but suck you dry money wise.

    Thing is she did have a thing for great restaurants. I went to Andres DC in Zona T and had the best meal I had in Bogota, and the second best was Smoking Molly, a jazz type bar with amazing food. My conversations with the ex though had me convinced I was making the same mistake again. I was focusing on what made me look good versus someone who made me feel good.

    There was a teacher I had seen. She wasn't as stunning but very attractive. She was like an 8 out of 10, but she was very upbeat, lit up the room with her smile, and children unlike my ex ran up to her as if they were life long friends. When we first met, I was between hotels, and she helped me pack and move. Instead of asking for an Uber, she took the bus and was happy to do so. She was an incredibly giving lover. We never talked price, and when I did finally give her money, she said, "I am not here for that" and didn't even count it.

    So I reached out to her again. She came via bus, was happy with a simple meal, and at this time, after having my fun, I told her I wanted to get to know her better. She had quit her teaching job due to the long hours, and she was making it baby sitting for now. I was skeptical that she was still seeing other men, but she said that she had only been with six men in her life. One one night stand, two BFs, and me and two other guys from seeking arrangement. She said that she hadn't been on the website in over a month, and she felt badly about being on it. I checked and it was true. She had just broken up with her BF a year ago after being with him for 10 years. There were still pics of him on her social media page, and she unlike my ex was very open about showing me everything.

    On our second night together, I had grown tired of the cold in Bogota. My father told me the best way to get to know someone was to take a trip with them. I told her that I longed to go somewhere warm. I had heard of Cartagena and Santa Marta, and she told me that Santa Marta was good as was San Andres. I had never heard of San Andres but I could tell she really wanted to go. For last minute type of planning, the flights were cheap and we got a good deal on the hotel room. She was glowing after we got the tickets, and I then asked her, "Have you been on a plane before?" She told me that she had one time when she was seven. She was going to pack her one athletic bag (she had no suitcases), but on the way out of the hotel room with great excitement in her voice, she said, "I love you. " Given that my Spanish and her English weren't that great, I wasn't sure she understood the significance of the words, and I didn't repeat them back to her.

    I read on this forum that some guys didn't like San Andres, and I really don't know what they are talking about. We loved every second of it. Issues emerge when we were traveling as they always do, and she and I calmly found a way to solve things. When we went to the nearby islands, we missed out boat back, but she calmly found us another ride. The other boat had a tour guide, and he was better. That guide took us to a place where we saw manta rays, and at the end, he asked us all to look for a starfish. We located one, the guide dove in and grabbed it, and we all took pictures with it. It was an unforgettable experience.

    Yes, she was the same incredible lover every night, but it was the little things that mattered. When we went to buy groceries, she got a body lotion and spent 30 minutes every night giving me a massage. There were the times on the boat and beach, she reached out and grabbed my hand and stroked my skin. Many times, she reached in her own wallet to pay for things versus looking at me.

    One thing when being with the ex was that I NEVER saw a more attractive woman when we were out together. Granted, we spent most of our time in Mexico and Peru and not in Argentina or Brazil, but this time in San Andres, I did see women physically as attractive as mine, but they gave off this bitchy, entitled vibe my gal didn't. When I started taking pictures of her, I realized that the same friendly, giving spirit she had in real life came off in the photos. I didn't see anyone I wanted more, and there were hundreds of biking clad women on the beaches.

    I told her that I wanted to see her every month. My job will allow me to see her on weekends if she comes to Mexico every month, but we are going to work on getting her a tourist and then possibly a student visa. I am going to pay for her English classes and the amount I give her per month would be the same as an hour for an escort in the USA It's not as much as she was making as a teacher, but she said, "I will work as a waitress and keep up with my babysitting, and it will be the same as my teaching salary. " Those jobs will give her the flexibility in her schedule.

    When we got back to Bogota, we had sex again, and she had to leave. She repeated those three words, and I said, "I love you too". Still, even thought the words were said, I don't have the same emotional depth I had with the ex. I have great affection for her, but I am not in love with her. If I didn't hear from her again, I would be bummed but not emotionally devastated. Hopefully, the in love part will come later.

    I get what the guys are saying here. You need to be with them every day and maybe that is true, but my gal didn't like to drink and seemed pretty happy spending her nights caring for children instead of being out partying. She has been tight with her family so she has companions in her life, and she has had long term relationships before and I can see on her social media pages that she has had life long friends. Unlike so many other women, she seems to be one who can defer gratification.

    The Ven-Col beauty is on the website every day and outside of my woman, she was the other best LTR prospect. The other women I met were if not escorts, escortish, and I think anyone falling for them would get in trouble. They were stunning to look at, sexually were amazing, and they had that Colombian vibe where they make a man feel so special.

    Still, if this doesn't work out, I will probably give up on a LTR with a Latin American woman and focus on American women. It's just hard given the higher quality of woman available in the South American countries.

  14. #7429
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I am sure they are. I have gotten most chicks in Santa Fe to agree to 100K for all night.
    LOL! I like to make the girls happy. I definitely will not DATY or even kiss a SW.

    http://www.salariominimocolombia.net/en/

    Yes, the 100 K pesos for 1 hour is a lot higher than the hourly minimum wage of 3,450 COP, or even the daily minimum wage of 27,604 COP.

    I talked to several girls. One average girl said she makes between 100 - 200 COP a day. An above average girl with a great 18 year old body said she makes 150 K on a bad day, and between 300 - 400 COP on a good day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBud  [View Original Post]
    The girls seem to be very happy with 100 K for 1 hour,
    I am sure they are. I have gotten most chicks in Santa Fe to agree to 100K for all night.

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