Manila

[Kabul Guy]

That is typical for dive shops, resorts, and hotels in the Philippines. You may have to call them. I booked a shop in Bohol some years ago. When I got there they did not have my reservation. I showed them a copy of all the emails back and forth of me telling them what kind of room I wanted and what dives I wanted to do. They sent me back the price and I said okay. The fucking ladyboy said I did not RECONFIRM. I asked what kind of bullshit is that? How many times do we have to go back and forth about me wanting a room and to dive with your shop? Too many times it is just pure incompetence in that country.

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In more than 20 years of diving, that is the norm for dive shops everywhere, here is a little worse. You have to ask them many times to get a straight answer on when a dive trip is scheduled, customer service is universally poor.

It might be that they rely on tourist business where there is not always a lot of repeat customers and always a supply of new potential customers, but I think it is because dive shops are usually run by people with a few thousand dives and on some of these they may have run a little low on oxygen.

[WestCoast1]

What's the consensus on girls roaming around Burgos offering cheap massages for 500 p? I saw them around last night but hesitated because the price is so cheap. Are they safe?

Sammi: PM me, I might have some insight for you.

[Kabul Guy]

Can anyone with experience at Flight 168 let me know if it is worth getting the more expensive room in Flight 168?

Haven't been there in a while but generally not worth the extra, but that is just an opinion and opinions are like assholes.

Everyone has at least one and some stink more than others.

[Sammi00]

Can anyone with experience at Flight 168 let me know if it is worth getting the more expensive room in Flight 168?

[Sammi00]

What's the consensus on girls roaming around Burgos offering cheap massages for 500 p? I saw them around last night but hesitated because the price is so cheap. Are they safe?

[Abhi9]

That is typical for dive shops, resorts, and hotels in the Philippines. You may have to call them. I booked a shop in Bohol some years ago. When I got there they did not have my reservation. I showed them a copy of all the emails back and forth of me telling them what kind of room I wanted and what dives I wanted to do. They sent me back the price and I said okay. The fucking ladyboy said I did not RECONFIRM. I asked what kind of bullshit is that? How many times do we have to go back and forth about me wanting a room and to dive with your shop? Too many times it is just pure incompetence in that country.

Thanks Mr E. Let me call them and inquire once again. Also as ED mentioned, I will try and keep an extra day just to roam around and checkout the dive shops.

The 4 k barfine is actually 2 k barfine payable before leaving and 2 k tip paid to the girl after finished. As a new face, you will be asked but do not pay the full 4 k upfront. This is generally LT but agree with the girl on services and time before leaving. Most are pretty good on not trying to do a one pop runner but it does happen, more so in the K (or now Chinese) dominated bars.

Freelancers come and go depending on the local attitudes. There are regular sweeps which clear the FLsNo need to be nervous about the GoGo process. It's very simple. Just walk in, sit down and order a drink. If you see or are offered a girl (s) you like then you can by her a lady drink and talk a little to see if you are comparable. There is no need to buy all her friends drinks. If you like her, pay 2 k to release her from the bar then another 2 k after you have finished in your room. Don't feel like you are under pressure. It perfectly acceptable to not buy any LDs if you don't see anyone you like or buy a LD and then not bar fine if you don't want to take it further. For your first night you might want to have a drink in every bar just to get the vibe of the place and see which bar (s) you like the best. You could easily cover every bar in Sabang in a couple o
Enjoy. G.

I would avoid staying at Big Apple. But as you mentioned, it might be a good place to sit around for drinks and look out for potential FLs. I might want to choose a better place to stay and dive. Also thanks for giving me confidence on GOGOs. Looks like this is an experience I must have. I will try in Sabang as well as in Manilla. Hope to beat some Koreans to find a stunner LOL. But yes will go easy and display confidence. That newbie look gets you conned most of the times.

tition from cashed up Koreans is crap.Why maybe my last trip. Partly judging hassle of getting there, judging perf vs money (other places are much cheaper) and been there done that. Doing a Manila- Angeles. Sabang - Manila ( Burgos ) trip in Dec so stay tuned for lengthy reports. Unfort in Sabang if you are not diving not much to do. I mean young guys can fuck all day. I can't. LOL.

Looking forward for some crazy reports from your end NI. I would do the same once I finish my trip. I love to write descriptive reports. Thanks to all the folks who shared their valuable inputs.

Please send us a report and some pictures of the new shitfarm. It might have been commissioned by the time you go. I'm very interested.

Definitely ED. Will try and share as many reports and images as possible.

[Sidtip]

5. What is the possibility of getting a decent looking freelancer below 30 yrs of age and making her stay with me for 3-4 days at a lesser price. I am not a variety seeking person. If a decent looking hygienic girl can give me a good GFE, I won't mind repeating her for a few days. I am stressing on this because I am currently inexperienced in picking girls through GOGO's. I am quite presentable and certainly not a cheap charlie but no past GOGO experience that's all.

Don't do this. You will form an attachment and start sending her money once you go home. I speak from experience. Men are weak, men are idiots.

[Tachibana]

Guys,

Need some suggestions and help.

Through PL I have met a person and going steady with her. She's had multiple relationships in the past and didn't work out for various reasons.

We have had sex and I always use a condom. Now she's insisting that we should have sex without condom. I don't know whether it's worth the risk, and wondering how to proceed. She's separated not legally and has children. Are there strict rules on having intimate relationship with married women. What should I be prepared for?

Really appreciate response / advice.

Si.

Comes down to your judgement call. If she truly is just a regular mom then I would say risk of contracting something is manageable. But I would never go bareback with a working girl, not worth it for me. But there are tons of mongerers who frequently or exclusively play bareback. And also the more reprehensible ones who coerce their girls (often uneducated on the risks) into doing it with them.

Think about it this way, do you really want to be sharing a girl bareback with one of those bareback allstars who has himself pounded over a hundred working girls? With 6 degrees of separation you can bet your last dime somewhere along the line there is HIV and though the risk of transmission from one interaction is low, ask yourself if its worth it.

[El Ted]

Run fast and run far.

Guys,

Now she's insisting that we should have sex without condom.

Si.

[PilotPaul]

Guys,

Need some suggestions and help.

Through PL I have met a person and going steady with her. She's had multiple relationships in the past and didn't work out for various reasons.

We have had sex and I always use a condom. Now she's insisting that we should have sex without condom. I don't know whether it's worth the risk, and wondering how to proceed. She's separated not legally and has children. Are there strict rules on having intimate relationship with married women. What should I be prepared for?

Really appreciate response / advice.

Si.

Life is a game and there are no guarantees. I had one former lovely 24 year old that after a few months discovered that she had Hep be since birth. Fortunately I had previously had a full Hep be vac course.

As a regular Filipina fucker for many years I was always using a condom until one girl convinced me that if I was serious on her, then it's without a condom. She already had one child and she was meticulously taking contraception pill. Was with her for two+ years.

As disciplined as I try to be, it is just so much better going BB with a trusted partner.

During my time in Ph I had 2 rounds of STI which were cured on home soil, 1 time was my straying, the 2nd time as my 'trusted' partner playing away from home.

Of greatest concern for me would be contraception.

PP.

[NewImage]

Re Sabang: Big Apple. Sabang central. Good place to sit & peruse. Food for me ok. Shithole is a bit rough IMO. We've all been in worse. Don't book before you go. See what's available when you get there dive wise. Negotiate one against another when you are there- best deal wins or one you feel most comfortable with.

GFE will be your biggest hassle. Not all bars are created equal. Not that many doable FL ers around when I was there. You WILL have to pay for quality GFE. But negotiate with girl for extended rental. Keep eye out during the day for pre work and post work WG sessions. Why pay 4000 when you can get for 2000. Need to get into the habit of interviewing and negotiating. Just do it. Lay down the ground rules and expected behaviours. Be prepared to walk if you get negative feedback. There are PLENTY.

Re Burgos / Manila. Let Wechat etc be your friend. Not a fan of dating sites. A lot changes in a day. Sit in a cafe. They come to you- you interview and negotiate.

Re money. When you get to 80 would you rather have an extra 50 k in your bank account or great memories of the hot 19 year olds that you fucked in the Philippines? (Now 50 k US = 2,500,000 peso = 625 bar fines at 4000 peso each LOL).

NI.

[Si6798]

Guys,

Need some suggestions and help.

Through PL I have met a person and going steady with her. She's had multiple relationships in the past and didn't work out for various reasons.

We have had sex and I always use a condom. Now she's insisting that we should have sex without condom. I don't know whether it's worth the risk, and wondering how to proceed. She's separated not legally and has children. Are there strict rules on having intimate relationship with married women. What should I be prepared for?

Really appreciate response / advice.

Si.

[Goferring]

there is no way the Big Apple will meet your expectations. It is a run down shit hole

I'd agree the Big Apple is a shit hole but it's a shit hole with character and its location is hard to beat with access to all the bars, freelancers, floating bars and daily conveniences less than a 5 minute walk away. Anything can and does go in the bar, hotel and pool so if the OP want to be entertained, give it consideration; if he wants a vanilla flavoured safe haven then you are right and he should give it a miss.

2. There are six massage parlours in Sabang, all Korean owned. They are completely legitimate and don't offer any extras.

Very true for us visitors who may shoot off our mouths and get the girls fired. Long term Resident Dive Masters / Instructors often get Full Service.

4. You will find freelancers of varying standards walking up and down the pathway outside Big Apple. If one catches your eye, just grab her. 2,500 per night should be enough. You may also try PL or FC.

During the day there are a lot of bar girls walking around town meeting friends and doing their chores. Many can be convinced to drop by for a pre work ST. Again, the front barstools at the Big Apple make a good vantage spot to see everyone walking by as you have a drink or meal.

6. Sabang exists for the Koreans and Chinese, more so than AC. You just have to stay focused on your own task and not be distracted.

Unfortunately this is becoming more and more the case over time. The result has been an increase in the number of very good looking girls but a decrease in service standards and the overall "fun" atmosphere.

7. Your budget may be a bit tight. I would always bring more money.

That can be said about any and every mongering holiday. 😁.

Enjoy. G.

[Engine Driver]

Couple of months ago I was wondering which destination to travel to in SEA. Aim was to get my Open Water Padi Certification and obviously, some beautiful Filipinos to goof around with.
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This whole discussion belongs in the "Other Areas" thread, not the Manila thread. Perhaps Abhi would be kind enough to shift it.

1. If you are coming from India, there is no way the Big Apple will meet your expectations. It is a run down shit hole, full of old drunks and toothless hags. It will suit poor Aussie, working class or pensioner mongers. The British dive master and the Australian owner of the Big Apple are alcoholics. You should avoid this place. Why not go to Sabang a day early and check out the dive shops before handing over your money? Interview the dive master, check out the equipment and get a feel for the place. Some dive places are exclusively Korean or Chinese.

2. There are six massage parlours in Sabang, all Korean owned. They are completely legitimate and don't offer any extras. Best to not even ask as you may look foolish. Many of the girls have Korean boyfriends. The best massage I had in Sabang was by the lady that threads beads and weaves bracelets. She has a stall on the ground outside one of the hotels. If she asks "Massage Sir?" just say yes.

3. You won't need any transport in Sabang. Everything you need is no more than 300 meters away.

4. You will find freelancers of varying standards walking up and down the pathway outside Big Apple. If one catches your eye, just grab her. 2,500 per night should be enough. You may also try PL or FC.

5. If you want to go to the bikini bars, start lining up at 5. 30 pm. The doors open at 6. 00 pm. By 6. 01 pm, the Koreans have grabbed all the hottest girls. At 6. 02 pm half the club will be empty. Only the ugly ones or those on menstruation duty will be left.

6. Sabang exists for the Koreans and Chinese, more so than AC. You just have to stay focused on your own task and not be distracted.

7. Your budget may be a bit tight. I would always bring more money.

Please send us a report and some pictures of the new shitfarm. It might have been commissioned by the time you go. I'm very interested.

[NewImage]

Couple of months ago I was wondering which destination to travel to in SEA. Aim was to get my Open Water Padi Certification and obviously, some beautiful Filipinos to goof around with.
definitely New Image (If you hadn't posted so many queries on Sabang, this thread wouldn't be having enough information for noobs like me). You guys have literally shared an ocean of information which is very different from Indian threads where information is shared within closed circles as Law Enforcement is strict and new mongers are quite irresponsible. I would love to help you all unconditionally if you ever plan to travel to New Delhi or Bangalore.

I ask lots of questions cause knowledge is power and when I am there I write lengthy reports to help others. Eg So you want to bang bang Sabang reports Hopefully people appreciate.

In response Sabang would be your go to place for diving & girls. Yes now its harder to get to because they won't allow bancas direct to Sabang port but they go to Muelle (Port Gal) or white beach. A quick trike ride and you are at bang bang Sabang.
Yes bar fines are 4000 (pretty expensive for Phil) but you can negotiate after work or before work meetings. Unfort perf is not great BUT I found a very good provider and we had wonderful GFE time together.As people said Sabang is small you can walk everywhere which I like. I stay 2 minutes walk from bars and dive shops. Diving is excellent and cheap. Food good, accom good but competition from cashed up Koreans is crap.Why maybe my last trip. Partly judging hassle of getting there, judging perf vs money (other places are much cheaper) and been there done that. Doing a Manila- Angeles. Sabang - Manila ( Burgos ) trip in Dec so stay tuned for lengthy reports. Unfort in Sabang if you are not diving not much to do. I mean young guys can fuck all day. I can't. LOL.