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  1. #47315
    Quote Originally Posted by Catire  [View Original Post]
    The smoothly shaved invariably were professional hookers with a high percentage of farang customers.
    That part is likely right, shaved girls know Farangs prefer it. However I don't see any correlation between allowing BBFS and pussy hair, it maybe true that many inexperienced girls are easier to talk into BBFS than experienced ones but not sure they all have big Bush, but I don't see a huge pattern. Could be shaved, well trimmed, or bushy. I don't do any bushy ones regularly, so can't say if they would BBFS easily or not.

    Many guys claimed to get BBFS at Snow White regularly. I guess they weren't all telling porkies.

    My first regular that decided to stop using a condom (in recent years) was every experienced and shaved. She wanted for us both to be tested regularly, she was a little more paranoid about HIV than necessary. However she could see my staying power increased if BBFS. She could take a while to get her 2nd pop. Dicks wilt faster with a thick condom spoiling the feel for non-sensitive dick guys. Maybe can't cum. I am sure ET agrees with me here. BBFS can feel better for the girl as well as for the guy. She was first one to yank the condom off me suddenly one day. Of course can be a mechanism for the girl to hook the customer more regularly, and make her be a preferred or the preferred girl. No other girl matches her stamina.

  2. #47314
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I agree. There are often several girls further down Soi 4 from the Nana Hotel car park area who are better looking than most. And not just the Viet girls. Unfortunately, the Viet girls are more stubborn than most about condom condom condom for everything. There are exceptions but you have to work for it. I had one about a year ago that only comes out of that Nana Condo building many Viet girls stay in when she gets an online date. She was at least a bargirl 9, a cut above most FL anywhere. But she would only come out to walk on that soi IF she knew I was already outside waiting to meet her.
    Lucky you then dude, the further you walk down the Soi, the uglier it gets IMHO.

  3. #47313
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    I prefer to "come on" rather than "come in. " Product of 80's porn I guess.
    I am not one to put much stead in being conditioned or excited to imitate porn movies (which are clearly contrived and silly and either ugly or nasty). My taste in porn is strange no doubt, sex-art or X-art rather non nasty porn, no really extreme stuff. However really hot girls even those with golden brown skin can excite me. Latest one I watched was a light golden skinned black girl Julie Kay, and I liked her body even with a little too much landing trip. So my porn is just sexy, but not having anything in particular to imitate thet registers with me. Doubtless the guys' DATY technique looks mostly poor so would not learn anything from that. Then they put dicks half way in for the camera to see better, some / many girls have pussy stuffing to stop the dick going all the way, Ha ha. Its all a joke but can have a sexy illusion. I hate seeing condoms in porn, I guess that means something, hate Jap pixelation, and even fast forward during extended BBBJs which bore me. Watch little ass fucking preferring beautiful pussy. I am sure my taste is not normal with many guys seeming to like "extreme porn" and something denigrating / degrading the girls as far as possible. Must be a danger if guys need to act out what they see in extreme porn too much.

    Still I am well used to come on, and go used it. It does further reduce risks of pregnancy and other things. I certainly am not into risking girls getting pregnant, we all should know many young hookers are getting pregnant accidentally, even if they are supposedly on the pill.

    I intend to take ETs lead and get the vasectomy done. My Mrs still has periods but not wanting another baby.

    Is it weird for me to get turned on by the girl getting turned on and clearly wanting to enjoy it rather than purely working? No dead fish fucks for me. Its easy to like girls who like to fuck a lot, and show enthusiasm. I am okay Normally with girls largely doing what things they enjoy, rather than requesting specific services. Sometimes I have got no BJ, because girl does not feel like doing one but wants to do other things. No BJ is not worse than a poor BJ. One girl worked in a BJ shop so being sick to death of BJs but wanting DATY and a nice deep fuck, was not a big problem. Ha ha. Her pussy was relatively fresh.

    Girl attitude is the huge thing for me to make a session work, or bomb out totally, once get past total physical incompatibility, or a disaster body, and she has got have a nic pussy and look sexy. Back in my home country before moving to Thai girls, only 1 in 10 hookers really had the attitude to make it fun rather than procedural, and hence I never do western hookers back home any more. Success rate was far too low. East European hookers and Latina have a much better attitude, don't know my. My country just sucks!

    I think Thailand has been in decline for hooker Attitudes, but I can't prove it, because I got older and less desirable. I never forget Thai girls that wanted to fuck several times a night (many years back). Was easy to see how much they wanted another pop like they never had it so good. Don't meet that any more. Best I can expect is another round in the morning if do LT. Maybe the young spunks are still getting that. Maybe I am too difficult to do multiple times any more.

  4. #47312
    Quote Originally Posted by RobertLong  [View Original Post]
    All in the Soi 4 was populated with 3's and 4's. And many didn't even make the chart. A great place for stingy fucks.

    RL.
    A great place for value for money if don't need porno. Certainly I am doing better there than Thermae in value for money and luck for making the right choice, but more all naturals on Soi 4 and performance can be better with Farangs. I can pass quite easily, when only 3 or 4's are there, and that can be somewhat often. Pick the right time and right night and I found 3 hot girls last Saturday. Yes Thermae overall looks standard is much higher, but only the best 2 or 3 girls really matter. I think its easier to have a regular girl there and can reach an understanding that will pay a bit more for exceptional service, yet still be value. Getting a regular at Thermae would be a good idea too, for reliable service.

    Soi 4 girls looks can be quite comparable with many MPs, with rather few girls looking doable, however maybe more all natural girls. Did not see the stunning deaf girl on Soi 4 lately at all. I fear she is gone.

    I have not done any nor even met any Viets, and talked to them. Maybe they are not my spec really. Have met odd Bangkok person claiming to be Viet but actually not. I try a few Viet phrases on them. I can pronounce well enough for them to understand if they are really Viet. One I suspected was really from Myanmar. Still doubtless Viets are around, maybe I just never approached any. Its is useful I think to have a few basic phrases for each major SE Asian country, so can tell which language girls really speak, and how much they maybe bullshitting. Girls from Myanmar and Cambodia that spoke Thai, I could tell had strange pronunciation. One Laos girl though pronounces Thai so well that I can't really pick it, but her Thai spelling is atrocious, spelling in more like a Laos way.

    My hairdresser was a Galiang, like Karen or other hilltribe from Myanmar, and I did not really understand a word of their language. That would be going too far. There are far too many minor languages.

    I tried to learn some Vietnamese but found it much harder than Thai to come to grips with, or maybe the teacher was lousy to explain pronunciation. Easy to recognise though, its very short jerky sound. Not a pretty language except when spoken by sweet girls.

    Are there a lot of Viet hookers in Thailand? It would not be legal for them to be working as hookers on the street. Don't they fear police raids?

  5. #47311

    Viet FL

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Yes, I have taken a couple of the cute/pretty face Vietnamese girls down there for BBBJ+CIM in my room, 1,000 baht. I used to date a Vietnamese girl back in the usa, a blackjack dealer at Harrah's in Tahoe. She was crazy about BBBJ+CIM+Swallow, couldn't get enough of it. Loved her dearly. But I have not met a swallower among them here yet. For me, that is.
    I found a Viet FL in front of Hooters. Not bad, nice legs. She would not agree on no condom but was ok with everything else. I didn't ask for anal, not into the chocolate factory. I'm a sucker for great legs so I don't even remember the face.

    Also exchanged some questions with the deft lady boss and she offered her side kick for 1200 baht, when I asked about no condom the price went up to 3500 baht. Goodbye.

    All in the Soi 4 was populated with 3's and 4's. And many didn't even make the chart. A great place for stingy fucks.

    RL.

  6. #47310
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    Luckily I am ok with condoms for FS and anal, and the Viets seem ok with BBBJ.
    ...
    Yes, I have taken a couple of the cute/pretty face Vietnamese girls down there for BBBJ+CIM in my room, 1,000 baht. I used to date a Vietnamese girl back in the usa, a blackjack dealer at Harrah's in Tahoe. She was crazy about BBBJ+CIM+Swallow, couldn't get enough of it. Loved her dearly. But I have not met a swallower among them here yet. For me, that is.

  7. #47309
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    Funny, even when engaging in BBFS, which is rare, I prefer to "come on" rather than "come in. " Product of 80's porn I guess.
    I am the same. If I don't cum on the girl (either her body or her face), I consider it a total turn off and a wasted session. Even if wearing a condom, I will rip that condom off right at the end and cum on her rather than cumming inside.

  8. #47308
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I agree. There are often several girls further down Soi 4 from the Nana Hotel car park area who are better looking than most. And not just the Viet girls. Unfortunately, the Viet girls are more stubborn than most about condom condom condom for everything. There are exceptions but you have to work for it. I had one about a year ago that only comes out of that Nana Condo building many Viet girls stay in when she gets an online date. She was at least a bargirl 9, a cut above most FL anywhere. But she would only come out to walk on that soi IF she knew I was already outside waiting to meet her.

    She started at 15,000 baht for LT, condom required, her supposed "going rate". Over a drink I got her to LT for 7,000, BBFS+CIP that evening, BBBJ+CIM in the morning, no rush, all on my terms. That was the most I've spent outright on a hooker in Thailand. But the calculation was still that I could easily spend almost that much cruising around the go-go bars and only get a ST BBFS+CIP/BBBJ+CIM for it with a probably bargirl 7+.
    Luckily I am ok with condoms for FS and anal, and the Viets seem ok with BBBJ. Funny, even when engaging in BBFS, which is rare, I prefer to "come on" rather than "come in. " Product of 80's porn I guess. The Viets are for sure several cuts above the Thais when it comes to looks.

  9. #47307
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    Well, I always see one or two Thai gals that are doable. But, venture farther down the street and some of the Viets just blow the Thai gals out of the water. White skin, great facial features (non-surgically enhanced for the most part), and some ripping bodies combined with that great aggressive intense Vietnamese attitude. I'll take a white skinned Chinese featured Viet over a dark skinned Isaan gal any day.
    I agree. There are often several girls further down Soi 4 from the Nana Hotel car park area who are better looking than most. And not just the Viet girls. Unfortunately, the Viet girls are more stubborn than most about condom condom condom for everything. There are exceptions but you have to work for it. I had one about a year ago that only comes out of that Nana Condo building many Viet girls stay in when she gets an online date. She was at least a bargirl 9, a cut above most FL anywhere. But she would only come out to walk on that soi IF she knew I was already outside waiting to meet her.

    She started at 15,000 baht for LT, condom required, her supposed "going rate". Over a drink I got her to LT for 7,000, BBFS+CIP that evening, BBBJ+CIM in the morning, no rush, all on my terms. That was the most I've spent outright on a hooker in Thailand. But the calculation was still that I could easily spend almost that much cruising around the go-go bars and only get a ST BBFS+CIP/BBBJ+CIM for it with a probably bargirl 7+.

  10. #47306
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyezhov  [View Original Post]
    The Nana girls are dogs all the time. Just coincidentally, I was walking through there on Saturday night and they were more horrid than usual. I consider the streetwalkers in that area to be the dregs, and the guys that pick them up either don't know any better, can't afford any better, or are just blind, desperate or so hideous themselves that that's the best they can do. To be fair, the ones by the car park you can at least look at without vomiting. Start heading down the street and watching them deteriorate into simple lumps of two-legged ugliness.

    Turn a does seem to get a bit more crowded at the end of the month and you'll find more part-timers there. Since the girls pay the club to be there, I assume that for many girls, it's not worth it to be there for only a night or so.
    Well, I always see one or two Thai gals that are doable. But, venture farther down the street and some of the Viets just blow the Thai gals out of the water. White skin, great facial features (non-surgically enhanced for the most part), and some ripping bodies combined with that great aggressive intense Vietnamese attitude. I'll take a white skinned Chinese featured Viet over a dark skinned Isaan gal any day.

  11. #47305
    Quote Originally Posted by Catire  [View Original Post]
    Has worked in reverse with me.

    The smoothly shaved invariably were professional hookers with a high percentage of farang customers.
    No, it has been the opposite for me. If the girl likes oral sex enough to understand the value in keeping herself shaved, there is also a good chance she appreciates good sex in general enough to hate condoms almost as much as many men do. LOL.

    In my experience, the girl being shaved has not been an indicator that she will probably say No to BBFS+CIP on our first encounter. Actually, her being popular with or amenable to being with many farang customers has not been such an indicator either as I recall.

    In this particular case, I was quite sure she would probably say No to that with me for other, much more problematic reasons and consistent indicators:

    1. I did not get an upfront agreement from her for BBFS+CIP in the bar or sometime before we headed to my room. Instead, I chose "go with the flow and see what happens in the room." Therefore, there was already an 80% chance she would say No to BBFS+CIP in the room and hold to it.

    2. She was a solid 8+.

    3. I met her in Thermae.

    I knew long before I got to the room she was very, very likely to refuse BBFS+CIP on that first encounter. When I saw that she was shaved smoothly, that was just one small glimmer of hope that she was appreciative, experienced and knowledgeable enough about great sex to feel comfortable with my vasectomy and medical check document situation and go for it. My feeling about her being a good candidate for the "go with the flow and see what happens in the room" approach was based only on my assumption that it could be a Two Stage (2,500 baht X 2) accomplishment and I did not want to risk her saying No in the bar without us even getting to that first Stage of it. I was willing to give that approach a chance with this one.

    We have chatted on Line a bit since then. She says she will contact me for another session when she returns to Bangkok. We'll see. I am not counting on it. But it will be a nice surprise if I do get that Line message in a few weeks.

  12. #47304
    Quote Originally Posted by Catire  [View Original Post]
    Has worked in reverse with me.

    The smoothly shaved invariably were professional hookers with a high percentage of farang customers.
    Yep, Asian guys prefer hair. Seen more gals with hair in the PSE shops as well. That's a big no-no for me.

  13. #47303

    African Girls in BKK

    I remember asking where one might find African girls on my last visit to BKK and was told to avoid. Typical will steal from you stereotype. However, my preferences and my past travel experiences couldn't keep me away. Was in Nana area a day ago and saw a cute one from Uganda walking down the street but couldn't make eye contact. Later saw her sitting at Hooters having a beer. So I pulled up a chair and began to talk. The security guy at Hooters, who always makes me laugh by the way, great guy, told me she has been in there for a couple of weeks now. We bullshit and then she said she'the go with me for ST. Back at the hotel we bullshit some more. She showers and did a great job. Like most Africans likes doggy and did it nicely with her ass up and face down. After she took a nice load in her mouth and let it run down her chest. I like to put them on the floor with their head back on the bed for the shot and she was compliant. Told me she wanted to hang out some more but I was done for the night. Also told me she give me her ass if we got married LOL.

    Nice body, tits are not my thing and hers were like most black girls.

    She told me where most of the black girls hang out and mentioned this African-Caribbean club down the road. She prefers to work Nana area and not hang out with the other Africans. Which I understand the drama that comes with that. Black girls to me are a lot of attitude, but if they like you are the nastiest little sluts you'll find and can be very submissive. But if you're in a relationship with one she is the Queen on the street.

    Met another on Tinder from Kenya. She's stopping by today later.

  14. #47302
    Quote Originally Posted by Paolo99  [View Original Post]
    What a great start for your first trip in Thailand.

    I'm very impressed.

    Keep posting your experience man.
    Except for falling for the train-is-closed scam and getting stuck in ratchaprapop.

  15. #47301
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Why would that be? The majority of my first time girls who provide me with BBFS+CIP were shaved smoothly, including from Thermae.
    Has worked in reverse with me.

    The smoothly shaved invariably were professional hookers with a high percentage of farang customers.

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