General Reports

[BearBare]

Street girl at $6 for room is only 15 minutes. $14+ for other hotels and a bar girl is for 30+ minutes. I've been in a Cascades room with a HK girl for an hour without being hassled for extra. If you go 30 minutes with a streetgirl, the hotel will want the additional $$

Had some fun last Sunday for a bit in Tijuana.

Asked SG if it was OK to go do Cascada's and she was fine with it instead of her normal $6 room where we went before. What is Crazy is they only asked for $6 at Cascadas instead of the normal $20. Why if I bring a girl from HK it's $20 but a SG is only $6 . Not complaining!

It gave me little more money for lap dances in HK which was fun. Girl named Baby has one incredible body. I didn't have any mojo left to take her upstairs for a second round. I know she wouldn't go for it but I wanted to offer her $40 just to go up and massage her body for 30 minutes.

Being new to this world I need to decipher the acronyms to read posts. This abbreviations page is a Big help!

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=Abbreviations

While I am not that much into "Greek" . It's fun to ask once in a while just to see the reactions of the girls who normally say noooooo. Two of the girls I asked last weekend said yes. I couldn't believe it. I didn't take them upstairs but was fun to explore the business deal and what was for sale and what was not.

Goyo.

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[Dogers69]

For more unlimited groping and touching, you must go to "privado". These are cabins with doors in the Miami section and upstairs. Price $ 21 for no more than 5 minutes. If you decide that you like the girl's body and you have a vibe then you go to the hotel room. Ficha is limited to drinking, small talk and maybe a little groping.

You misunderstood me. What I was saying is the lap dance booths are bad experience. Not as good as lap dance in USA. Because the girls already got some money, I'm guessing half is for them, they are also asking every ten seconds if I'm ready to go upstairs. And rarely ever getting naked and touching me in anyway. Just flat out very bad. I get way better results during the drink. I have had girls all over me during the drinks. The trick is to act interested but not fully interested. Make her work for the sale.

[Goyo61]

Had some fun last Sunday for a bit in Tijuana.

Asked SG if it was OK to go do Cascada's and she was fine with it instead of her normal $6 room where we went before. What is Crazy is they only asked for $6 at Cascadas instead of the normal $20. Why if I bring a girl from HK it's $20 but a SG is only $6 . Not complaining!

It gave me little more money for lap dances in HK which was fun. Girl named Baby has one incredible body. I didn't have any mojo left to take her upstairs for a second round. I know she wouldn't go for it but I wanted to offer her $40 just to go up and massage her body for 30 minutes.

Being new to this world I need to decipher the acronyms to read posts. This abbreviations page is a Big help!

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=Abbreviations

While I am not that much into "Greek" . It's fun to ask once in a while just to see the reactions of the girls who normally say noooooo. Two of the girls I asked last weekend said yes. I couldn't believe it. I didn't take them upstairs but was fun to explore the business deal and what was for sale and what was not.

Goyo.

[Goyo61]

Did a red light district tour while in Bangkok and it was good to go with someone that directed us to the bars that don't take advantage of the tourists so much.

I LOVE the bar Crazy Horse in Soi Cowboy. I fell in love with a 35 year old massage girl in Phi Phi islands. For a $100 (I probably overpaid). She spent the night with me in my hotel.

Thanks for Karon beach tip as were just starting to do a little research into what to do in the area.

Goyo.

Yeah, that list is super weak. No mention of Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy, or even Pattaya which is the biggest P4P scene I know of w several hundred girlie bars. Patpong in BKK is fun but very small compared to the previously mentioned BKK P4P scenes. If you're going to Phuket's Patong tourist area there is Bangla Road which has a vibrant P4P scene albeit a snake's den of hustling BGs. Still you will get the full Thai bar scene experience. Pattaya and BKK P4P scenes are more user friendly though. In Patong they have daily snorkeling tours of all the islands like Phi Phi etc. If you like beaches Karon Beach is awesome and only a few miles from Patong. Have fun.

[Goyo61]

Pattaya's on the bucket list as well as Columbia at some point.

Will check out the Phuket thread as will be good to widen my perspective before we head out on the trip.

Goyo.

I live in Pattaya, Thailand. I can tell you that Phuket sux for mongering. Bangla Road is overrun with ladyboys and the discos that you used to get freelancers in are overrun with normal tourists. It is also expensive as everything else is there in order to gouge tourists. See Phuket thread in the Thailand section.

[ChinaMan360]

You went to LV for mongering?? Wow. Your eyes will pop out once you get to Thailand. Nothing on your list is even close to real mongering locales except maybe Tijuana. Barcelona has massage parlors and they can be real good but still doesn't belong on a P4 P list. Amsterdam is a rip off unless you're a local and know the terrain. Enjoy BKK and Pattaya and start a new list.

Haha I'm a newbie tbh. Barely a year into this hobby. Is my list really that weird? I like experimenting and trying new places. I have some interesting stories from those places I listed. LV is my home base so I take advantage of it and if you know where to look the price can be good. Amsterdam I thought was fine. I do like how clean the city the RLD is compared to Tijuana. I'm looking forward to eventually go to Thailand because I've heard from everyone that's the mecca for mongering.

[StRobert]

I've been to.

1. Amsterdam.

2. Las Vegas.

3. Barcelona.

4. Zona norte.

Thailand is top on my list to review next. Right now zona norte is the top for me, but it does have a few downsides.

Amsterdam was fine but the service can be highly variable, but 50 euros is not a bad price. I never liked window shopping vs club action like in the zona. But the city itself is much more fun.

Las Vegas the rectory agencies are fun and high quality but expensive. I heard the Latin houses in Vegas are great but they are a little hard to find. Have not tried the AMPS believe it or not.

Barcelona sucks for red light action. Las Ramblas had few SW vs zona and very low quality. There are sex clubs too but the girls are low quality and the price is like 200 euros.

I've been to Amsterdam several times. Main RLD (Red Light District) Wallen narrow streets are full of tourists mainly from the United Kingdom often drunk specially on weekends. It is better to visit two other RLDs that tourists do not know about: Singel and Pijp. Another problem in Amsterdam is frequent rains or cold rains, wind and in winter cold and sometimes snow. But the city of Amsterdam is very interesting has beautiful museums and history but in my opinion RLD Tijuana Zona Norte is better, warmer climate, nice girls and drunk tourists from Europe can not come here so easily.

[StRobert]

Hong Kong lap dance booths are big, but no air flow so gets hot. I've done it with ten girls and basically learned, if it's not her idea, then it will be terrible. So most were terrible. I got way more out of USA lap dances. Every place I go on the states allows touching of some sort. And many allow tit sucking. In Hong Kong the girls don't even sit on the lap thy are usually angry you didn't take them upstairs yet. They constantly ask are you ready for sex upstairs. They don't care that you just wasted 24 dollars between the price, the mesero tip, and she will ask for a tip without even touching you. So it's a waste, unless you get a girl, who's not having sex that night for whatever reason. She may put in better effort.

For more unlimited groping and touching, you must go to "privado". These are cabins with doors in the Miami section and upstairs. Price $ 21 for no more than 5 minutes. If you decide that you like the girl's body and you have a vibe then you go to the hotel room. Ficha is limited to drinking, small talk and maybe a little groping.

[Socker]

I've been to.

1. Amsterdam.

2. Las Vegas.

3. Barcelona.

4. Zona norte.

Thailand is top on my list to review next. Right now zona norte is the top for me, but it does have a few downsides.

Amsterdam was fine but the service can be highly variable, but 50 euros is not a bad price. I never liked window shopping vs club action like in the zona. But the city itself is much more fun.

Las Vegas the rectory agencies are fun and high quality but expensive. I heard the Latin houses in Vegas are great but they are a little hard to find. Have not tried the AMPS believe it or not.

Barcelona sucks for red light action. Las Ramblas had few SW vs zona and very low quality. There are sex clubs too but the girls are low quality and the price is like 200 euros.

You went to LV for mongering?? Wow. Your eyes will pop out once you get to Thailand. Nothing on your list is even close to real mongering locales except maybe Tijuana. Barcelona has massage parlors and they can be real good but still doesn't belong on a P4 P list. Amsterdam is a rip off unless you're a local and know the terrain. Enjoy BKK and Pattaya and start a new list.

[Phordphan]

This is not true, the visa is required for land, air and sea. I always get stopped to fill out the visa and explicitly tell them I am flying to Mexico City from Tijuana and traveling to the state of Guerrero. The only thing they want to see is my actual flight receipt to and from to make sure I am not staying longer than 7 days and my passport, which I use my card passport. The form even ask for the flight number and hotel I will be staying, nonetheless, for this situation, I am flying domestic. For international, you will need it to give or else they will not let you board, plus you will also need a book passport.

You are absolutely correct. Either FMM is good. It's just a form stating you're in the country legally, as it were, and went through a passport check. The oddity is that you can only get the 7 day FMM at a land crossing. You can't get them at the airport, with the exception of the CBX crossing. If you cross via CBX you have the option of getting the 7 day or the 180 day. I flew to Oaxaca and Chiapas on 7 day FMMs, no problem.

[Sound7]

One way to donate money to the Mexican Tijuana border crossing improvement is paying for 180 day FMM.

They do run pilot program to verify visa at the Tijuana airport, $30 donation.

[Dogers69]

So the confusion here is when people say "lap dance". If you buy a girl a drink (they call it a "ficha" because the girl gets a little ticket that she redeems for money), she will sit with you for as long as it takes her to drink the drink, which varies by girl. Lary is very good about it. She takes about 15-20 minutes to drink it. Some girls down it in 5 minutes and ask for another. Often, guys refer to this as the "interview", because you are trying to see if you want to take her upstairs. Some girls will just sit and talk with you. Some will rub you, and let you rub all over them. And some will dance for you at the table, trying to entice you. It really depends on the girl. Lary is a wonderful time in the booth. For a $10 ficha, you have her full attention and she tries hard to engage you and persuade you to take her upstairs.

Hong Kong also sells actual "lap dances"..

Hong Kong lap dance booths are big, but no air flow so gets hot. I've done it with ten girls and basically learned, if it's not her idea, then it will be terrible. So most were terrible. I got way more out of USA lap dances. Every place I go on the states allows touching of some sort. And many allow tit sucking. In Hong Kong the girls don't even sit on the lap thy are usually angry you didn't take them upstairs yet. They constantly ask are you ready for sex upstairs. They don't care that you just wasted 24 dollars between the price, the mesero tip, and she will ask for a tip without even touching you. So it's a waste, unless you get a girl, who's not having sex that night for whatever reason. She may put in better effort.

[LovesToSploog]

This is not true, the visa is required for land, air and sea. I always get stopped to fill out the visa and explicitly tell them I am flying to Mexico City from Tijuana and traveling to the state of Guerrero. The only thing they want to see is my actual flight receipt to and from to make sure I am not staying longer than 7 days and my passport, which I use my card passport. The form even ask for the flight number and hotel I will be staying, nonetheless, for this situation, I am flying domestic. For international, you will need it to give or else they will not let you board, plus you will also need a book passport.

The free 7 day FMM is only good for land travel. You cannot fly on a 7 day FMM. If you fly you are required to purchase a 180 day FMM.

[Artisttyp]

Your passport number is not tied to your FMM.

My FMM is tied to my PP Card number + Name. How else would they be able to verify it was me or give me permission to get one in the first place? They would have to validate who I am and where I reside. Being that it takes a PP to enter Mexico it would make sense that my profile is tied into my PP information and in my case a PP Card since that is what I use at land crossings. Air is different I use my book.

[ClamSlammer]

Not sure if this is right forum but I'm taking my chances.......

Has anyone flown VivaAerobus/other airline between MTY and TIJ? Do you know if since it's Mex interior and Mex border turf if they require US citizens to purchase the 550p tourist permit in either direction?

My only VivaAerobus flight was Toluca-Monterrey both interior and nobody asked me for the permit.

Here is:

If you are traveling by air exclusively within Mexico, you are required by law to purchase a 180 day FMM visa. Doesn't matter which airline you are flying. Airline ticket agents do NOT ask to see your FMM. Whether you will be asked to show your FMM by Customs agents at the airports you travel through solely depends on whether you appear Mexican or not. If you are an obvious non-Mexican, the chances you will be asked to show your FMM are extremely high. I've departed and landed maybe 15 times in Mexican airports and I've been asked by Mexican Customs agents to show my FMM every single time. They don't appear to stop Mexican-looking travelers asking to see their FMM. If you look Mexican, I suppose you can take your chances and not buy the 180 day FMM. But if you're asked to show yours, it will be a problem. Under extreme circumstances you could be deported. Or at the very least delayed to the point you could miss your connecting flight. All because you wanted to save $28 usd. Not worth it if you ask me. Just pay the fee and travel worry-free.

If you are traveling outside of Mexico on a foreign passport, you ABSOLUTELY must have a 180 day FMM on you. On international flights, at the gate a Customs agent checks all passports and foreign travelers are required to surrender their 180 day FMM upon boarding. If you do not have it, you will be in some trouble. If you fly from a foreign country to Mexico, the cost of the 180 day FMM is built into the cost of the ticket and you will be issued one upon landing in Mexico.

They do check your passport at the counter so either your PP# is tied to a permiso or you pay for it in the price of the ticket. I even offered to show it to one of the Volaris agents but they didn't need to see it. Must be done automatically some how.

It's because airline ticketing agents have nothing to with customs and immigration. They check your passport for ID purposes and to make sure foreigners are carrying their passports as required by law. Your passport number is not tied to your FMM. Ticket agents aren't concerned and don't know whether you have an FMM or not.

I fly to Mexico city almost every month, I've flown to other states as well. You can get the visa when you cross with no charge as long as it is less than 7 days. After that you can roam freely. The only time you will need that Visa is when you fly into the states. Happen to me once when flying with volaris, had about 30 minutes before boarding, ran out the airport, had to pay a 550 mxn fee, barely made it on time. Nonetheless, I have never been asked for the Visa beside that one time inside of Mexico.

The free 7 day FMM is only good for land travel. You cannot fly on a 7 day FMM. If you fly you are required to purchase a 180 day FMM.