FKK Mainhattan- Frankfurt

[PayForIt]

So left Palace on Saturday night after only a couple of hours to check out Mainhattan as the LU at Palace was not good.

Well I should have stayed. It was better than Mainhattan.

This is the new Artemis of Hessen. So many older girls with a lot of tattoos.

Having paid entry now into two FKKs and the taxi between them I really wanted a session or two and genuinely there was not a single girl in the club I wanted to room with. Had some food. Decent - better than normal. And left very disappointed.

Not sure I'll return to Mainhattan for some time. Had 3 great rooms here in 2018 but for me the LU has seriously deteriorated and unlike in Palace / Oase and even Sharks. There is nowhere to escape to if you stay indoors. The beautiful Jasmine on reception asks me why on two visits I have not been with a girl. I tell her I'm still hoping she will agree to go to the room! Beautiful smile but rejection!

And finally. The new policy of charging for beers is also terrible. And the beer is really quite unpleasant.

All in all a very disappointing night (no session at Palace and none here). I just cannot summon up the desire to go with girls if they are not particularly pretty. I suppose they would not think I'm pretty but then one of us is paying and the other not!

Mainhattan needs some new young / slim ladies or I think it will struggle. That said there were a lot of guys here.

[Blacktar1]

I have, also, noticed the downfall of FKKs. High entry fees, scams by girls, and management that does nothing about customer service.

I am new to this forum but visit FKKs often, and I find that Mainhatten works fine for me. I just need to rely on local men I meet, my instinct, and can find excellent sessions for a 100 euros for an hour, and 50 for half hour. So, don't be a pessimist and write off FKKs and keep trying. Good luck.

[Voyajer1]

Beers used to be included with paid entry. Not anymore. Beers at Mainhattan are now 4 Euros for the beers that used to be free.

I have, also, noticed the downfall of FKKs. High entry fees, scams by girls, and management that does nothing about customer service.

[Sirioja]

Around Frankfurt or Koln, you can visit clubs for about 50 €, with free foods and soft drinks, you can eat breakfast, lunch, tea time, diner, until 2/3 am at Sharks, Oase, World, Samya. Finca is 35, Samya is 40 , Vanilla is 35. I don t find so expensive for these clubs services. Yes 60 is now expensive for LR level of services = average level of foods, Bundesliga 2 , small boring club if You don t have a rare beauty there you will take 3 times in the day. Gold is only for 25 and have a really enjoyable in bed girl there. Mainhattan used to be a good club with entry 45, I had good girls there and discovered wow look jolie Sara who is now successful and one of the prettiest at Globe. Even I may be the most picky and demanding about behavior and manners, even they are very rare, even have to work hard every week end to find, sometimes I m really exhausted to turn around for 15 hours at Sharks, not finding any desirable girl for me among 100 , at least I train for sport, I may try for marathon record under 2 hours, but at the moment 5 desirable girls for me in Germany when I couldn't find at Globe or Aphrodisia, so good time for me, even I don't have enough time because still Col Agnel, Alpe Huez, 2 sides of Mont Ventoux and finals in Zoncolan and Mortirolo, to enjoy for records, and preparing, improving new girlfriend for over 250, but I m not in hurry, because I m so sad to let my beloved, I slept so often with her, and improved her so much. I m sad she seems a bit tired of me, of our trips through mountains, nearly 450 000 kms together, so often full speed, DRS in the back of the car just in front, to be faster.

[Vienna2017]

Wow, I think we are witnessing the demise of an FKK. The writing is on the wall. I have never experienced the allure of this place and never had as good a time here as I've had in other clubs. Soon it will be no more, brought down by the girls who banded together to scam customers and a management that was never willing to do something about it.

I have, also, noticed the downfall of FKKs. High entry fees, scams by girls, and management that does nothing about customer service.

[ItaStallion]

At GringoItaliano, the past August, when I have been there, there were not the girls that you mentioned. No Moldovan girl, no MILF with eyeglasses, no blonde Hungarian tall girl.

However, more or less I use your same strategy more strategy but it was impossibile to not get duds.

Anyway, how much you paid and how long you staid with the girls?

I paid 100 euros per 30 minutes to each girl and the service was terrible.

After, that visit I never been to another sauna club and I have no more the willing to go to a club.

I go to a club to relax and stay well with girls but if the girls more bitchy than free girls, I prefer to get hurted with free girls.

[ExpatLover]

I visited Mainhatten on Thursday and can honestly say I like nothing about this club. I arrived at 1:15 PM and was told breakfast was still being served and when finished it would change over to lunch foods. I went to the "Bistro" to find all the breakfast foods gone except for some boiled eggs, chicken legs, and 3 slices of bread. I sat waiting either for the buffet refill or changeover to lunch until I was told the room was closing for cleanup and lunch would be served 30 to 60 minutes later. So I went and sat in the sauna for 45 minutes and then went back to eat lunch. It wasn't worth the wait. A bunch of tasteless foods. What a waste of time.

Oh and the line up was terrible. Today was a national holiday in Germany so maybe that was the reason. I'd say all the girls were 5's and 6's except one I'd rate a 7. So I went back to my hotel and got a couple hours sleep. Returned to the club about 9 PM and saw a new crew of girls had arrived but still nothing to get me excited. Ate dinner which again was pretty tasteless. This place needs a new kitchen manager imo.

Back at the bar I made offers to two girls but neither was interested. I offered 50 for thirty minutes and if I enjoy it I'll stay 60 minutes for 100 euros. The club wasn't busy and still the two girls were not interested. Neither girl ever made a counteroffer! Not sure what they are expecting but why would anyone pay more than that rather than jump on a train to Darmstadt?.

Thanks for your report, it is exactly what I am facing in the last years, Mahattan, like Finca, World have the same owners. The same quality of food and LU. No worth for me to spend my money and time in those clubs, but this is also true for many other places, I am only looking for fresh and young girls without sii, no smoking, beautiful skin, no Botox, no tattoo. Very difficult to find if not impossible, the LU changed but also the clients.

[Turgid]

.............Back at the bar I made offers to two girls but neither was interested. I offered 50 for thirty minutes and if I enjoy it I'll stay 60 minutes for 100 euros. The club wasn't busy and still the two girls were not interested. Neither girl ever made a counteroffer! ...........

When upselling became popular at FKKs some years ago I thought of that same proposal but decided against it. Girls who would take you up on that offer would give you a good 50/30 session anyway. Girls who refuse know why they refuse.

[Lucky Nuts]

I visited Mainhatten on Thursday and can honestly say I like nothing about this club. I arrived at 1:15 PM and was told breakfast was still being served and when finished it would change over to lunch foods. I went to the "Bistro" to find all the breakfast foods gone except for some boiled eggs, chicken legs, and 3 slices of bread. I sat waiting either for the buffet refill or changeover to lunch until I was told the room was closing for cleanup and lunch would be served 30 to 60 minutes later. So I went and sat in the sauna for 45 minutes and then went back to eat lunch. It wasn't worth the wait. A bunch of tasteless foods. What a waste of time.

Oh and the line up was terrible. Today was a national holiday in Germany so maybe that was the reason. I'd say all the girls were 5's and 6's except one I'd rate a 7. So I went back to my hotel and got a couple hours sleep. Returned to the club about 9 PM and saw a new crew of girls had arrived but still nothing to get me excited. Ate dinner which again was pretty tasteless. This place needs a new kitchen manager imo.

Back at the bar I made offers to two girls but neither was interested. I offered 50 for thirty minutes and if I enjoy it I'll stay 60 minutes for 100 euros. The club wasn't busy and still the two girls were not interested. Neither girl ever made a counteroffer! Not sure what they are expecting but why would anyone pay more than that rather than jump on a train to Darmstadt?

I paid 45 to enter plus 5 for a robe in the afternoon and another 5 robe at night. Total cost of 55 euros for a bunch of crappy food. In summary the facility is dated, the food is lousy, and the girls are out of touch with reality. Why does anyone go here? The recent positive review was from a guy who likes thicker chicas. So if that's what you like maybe there is a reason to go. I only talked to the thinnest girls I could find. And I will never return.

[TellYouNot]

Before I describe my general screening process that I use in any venue where you can "meet & greet" the girls before deciding on a session, I should note two techniques specific to FKKs that I developed during this trip.

Thank you for the very generous answer. Makes a ton of sense! Definitely seems like a situation where you get what you put in, and in order to have a good time you have to do your due diligence.

[LaBambaBoy]

Before I describe my general screening process that I use in any venue where you can "meet & greet" the girls before deciding on a session, I should note two techniques specific to FKKs that I developed during this trip..

That's a very sensible set of recommendations. Thank you, sir!

[ThePenetrator]

Before I describe my general screening process that I use in any venue where you can "meet & greet" the girls before deciding on a session, I should note two techniques specific to FKKs that I developed during this trip.

1) It is easy to spot "Asian hunters," as members of this board call them. These are the girls that actively target Asian customers in FKKs due to the perception that they are lucrative, low-maintenance, and less likely to push back against upsells or scams. I made a point of avoiding Asian hunters because I believed that such girls would be poor performers or cause other problems, if that is what they want in a client.

2) One can often position oneself in the social areas of the club to see girls coming out of the session rooms with their clients. I made a point of observing: a) the length of time that they had spent in the room together; and b) the facial expressions and body language of both parties..

Fantastic! I will save the link for this, and have it with me for my next venture into the world of FKKs.

[GringoItaliano]

Thanks GringoItaliano for the awesome report. Could you please share your screening process and tips for folks who are new to this?

Before I describe my general screening process that I use in any venue where you can "meet & greet" the girls before deciding on a session, I should note two techniques specific to FKKs that I developed during this trip.

1) It is easy to spot "Asian hunters," as members of this board call them. These are the girls that actively target Asian customers in FKKs due to the perception that they are lucrative, low-maintenance, and less likely to push back against upsells or scams. I made a point of avoiding Asian hunters because I believed that such girls would be poor performers or cause other problems, if that is what they want in a client.

2) One can often position oneself in the social areas of the club to see girls coming out of the session rooms with their clients. I made a point of observing: a) the length of time that they had spent in the room together; and b) the facial expressions and body language of both parties.

For example, the following scenario would be a huge red flag. A pair of girls approaches an Asian customer that had just recently entered the social area of the club. They immediately go to the session room. They come out 10 minutes later. The girls are walking quickly ahead of the Asian customer, who has a dissatisfied expression on his face, and paying no attention to him as they walk toward the phone & wallet lockers for him to pay them. I would immediately scratch both of those girls off of my list, regardless of however physically appealing I found them.

A more favorable scenario would be this: A German-speaking customer who seems to know the club well approaches a girl, and they agree to go the room after a conversation of a reasonable length. They come out 1 hour later. They are smiling, laughing, and holding hands and they walk together toward the phone & wallet lockers for him to pay her.

Aside from these FKK-specific techniques, I do also have a few "rules of thumb" that I follow.

1) Never session with girls that approach you immediately upon your entry into the venue, especially if you are new to that venue. The challenge in applying this rule to the FKKs. Particularly Palace. Is that a significant percentage of the girls will approach you shortly after you enter the club, disqualifying them.

2) Never session with girls that approach you in pairs to propose unsolicited threesomes. That exclusion also applies to each girl individually.

3) Be wary of girls that approach you with no invitation or other prior indication of interest. The problem with applying this rule to FKKs is that it may often lead you to exclude a high proportion of the girls, as so many of them will make uninvited approaches.

As you can see, my guiding principle is that I should choose the girls, and the girls should not choose me. The way I see it, if the girl takes charge of the situation to her advantage by obtaining my business, then she might also take charge of the situation in other ways that are detrimental to my interests. All but one of the girls that I did on this tour were girls that I chose: only one of them chose me, and I made an exception for her because she did in it in an unusually subtle way that planted the seeds of my interest and led me to engage her on a subsequent visit (see my report on the Palace thread).

Beyond that, my screening and interview process is more of an art than a science and relies more on gut feelings. Indeed, the most important metric is what I call "the boner test. " When I am talking to a candidate and she is delivering her sales pitch, do I get a boner? If yes, then she has a chance. If I do not get a boner, then I move on to other candidates.

I generally like to observe a girl's behavior and demeanor for a good length of time before deciding whether or not to engage her, so that I can see what she is like and how she treats people when she is not trying to get my money. This point helps me exclude many of the good actors that seem nice when they deliver their sales pitch to me but actually have toxic personalities that reveal themselves during the session. Once I do start talking to her, I try to gauge her body language and other non-verbal communication, such as her receptiveness to my touch (I generally cop a feel or two in order to inspect the merchandise); if I sense any hesitation or distance, I abort and move on to another girl. I am generally suspicious of any girl that cuts to the chase and delivers her sales pitch too abruptly and seems too eager to get down to business, but I had to adjust my expectations in the FKKs, where abruptness seems to be the norm. When we get down to negotiation, if I sense any hesitation, ambiguity, or deception in her answers to what I want, I abort and move on to another candidate. If a girl passes all these tests, I will go with her.

[TellYouNot]

Thanks GringoItaliano for the awesome report. Could you please share your screening process and tips for folks who are new to this?

[GringoItaliano]

FKK Mainhattan was the fourth stop on my first Frankfurt-based FKK tour in August-September 2019; please see my previous post on the General Info thread for an overview of my tour. The two FKKs within the Frankfurt city limits, Palace and Mainhattan, were originally lower priorities on my list because of what I had read about them online. I sensed that Sharks and Oase were more popular and highly regarded despite – or perhaps because of – their more remote locations in the less accessible suburbs / exurbs around Frankurt. The prevailing view seemed to be that the greater accessibility of Palace and Mainhattan had unfavorable influences on the attitudes and behaviors of the girls by exposing them more to foreigners, many of whom may be less value-conscious or well-informed.

The above is probably true of Palace, but I did not find it to be true of Mainhattan, or at least not to any degree significant enough that it should influence one's decision whether or not to go there. There were a few aggressive girls, but I would say that most of the girls that approached me there were simply proactive, rather than aggressive. I did encounter a few attempts at upsell, including one in the room, but a simple "no" was enough to deflect them. One or two of the girls might have pushed for high prices, but a simple "that's too much" quickly brought them back into more reasonable price ranges.

Aside from the more convenient location, the key selling point of Mainhattan for me was the lineup. I would say that the lineup at Mainhattan was the best of all five German FKKs that I visited, and also either the closest or the second-closest fit for my personal tastes (I do try to make a distinction between the two and be objective when writing reports). Whoever controls the lineup at Mainhattan also seems to have a preference for model types. I would note that the girls at Mainhattan were on average noticeably taller than anywhere else, as if there were a height requirement to work there. If you are looking for petite spinners, you may want to look elsewhere. Another selling point pertains to the facility itself: it has a designated and conveniently located smoking section within the social area of the club, which was a welcome contrast to the pervasive cigarette smoke at most other FKKs.

My first visit to Mainhattan was the best night of the entire trip and one of the best nights of mongering in my entire experience thus far. It yielded three highlights: the best session of the trip, the hottest girl of the trip, and the largest number of sessions during any one FKK visit. I only did two sessions per night at other FKKs in order to conserve energy, semen, and funds (this FKK tour was the first leg of a longer European trip) and, in some cases, because it was hard to find enough girls that suited my preferences. I had no such problems finding suitable candidates at Mainhattan and did three sessions during both of my visits. Mainhattan was where I found the hottest girl that I saw anywhere in any of the FKKs and one of the hottest girls that I have ever fucked in my entire life. This Moldovan could have easily been a model or been on the cover of magazines. She was tall with dark, exotic features, large breasts, and wavy, ass-length black hair. The service was good, but the point with her was more about adding such a remarkable notch to my belt. The best service of the trip came later that night from a tall, blonde, blue-eyed, athletic, and busty Romanian MILF. She wears glasses around the club; ask her to take them off and you will see that she looks much better without them. She demonstrated that one can combine GFE and PSE, and she was equally good with her mouth and her pussy. That night also included a quality session with a tall and blonde Hungarian model type with strong oral skills.

Given the above results, I eagerly returned to Mainhattan on my last night in Frankfurt, which was a Friday night. The results were still satisfying, but not as much as on the first visit. As was the case with Palace, the girls were somewhat more aggressive on a busier night (but nowhere near as much), which seemed counter-intuitive to me. I nonetheless scored at least one more highlight and checked an item off my sexual bucket list: I fucked an Iranian girl. I understand that some of the FKK girls concoct exotic origins for themselves as a sales technique, but I could confirm that she was Iranian. She had huge natural tits too. I also did a session with a tall and busty Romanian with curly blonde hair – imagine "Stifler's mom," but younger. I fucked her mouth and her big tits. Unfortunately, this second visit also yielded the only dud of my trip: a petite redheaded Ukrainian spinner bearing a slight facial resemblance to Sansa Stark. This dud may have been my fault, as I became complacent with my successes and did not screen her as thoroughly as usual. It was late on a Friday night, when it became so busy that the only room available had a broken air conditioner, which exacerbated the situation.

I will make Mainhattan a priority during future FKK trips to Frankfurt, as I found it to be the best overall and the closest fit for my preferences. The convenient location and the smoke-free social area make it easier to appreciate what I found to be the most appealing lineup, with some model-quality talent and generally good service. The one exception to this otherwise positive experience nonetheless serves as a reminder to never lower one's guard or become too comfortable, even in the best places.