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  1. #46538
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    I love girls like this. Firstly it shows a certain level of trust. There is a high correlation between fun girls and those not specifying a price.

    It is not really a license to be stingy, more so to be very fair. You had better know the going prices, and even consider a small bonus for a magnificent time. If it is really crap, and she does not make it possible to fuck her or enjoy, then you have a license to downsize the payment and make it still fair. This rarely happens. Most crap girls are very specific about prices.

    {Snip}

    Some of the very hot girls that say "up to you" may make more money on average than if they specified a fixed price every time, however they psychologically assess the customer first, to decide if customer is the generous type or stingy type.
    You make very good points. At first I was thinking they were trying to high-ball me, but what you say makes sense. Thanks.

  2. #46537

    Jackpot

    Quote Originally Posted by Stykler  [View Original Post]
    Been noticing a bit lately that when I am asking for a price for services from Thai lady, more frequently the response is "price up to you". What is the consensus on how to handle this? Anyone got any useful suggestions? Thanks.
    It's great when you get this response.

    I reply with first telling them that I am a generous man with a good heart and will pay them and tip them highly if they provide good service and what we agree upon.

    I then will offer 500 baht above current going rate and negotiate from there. But she has to be in line with my spec.

    I'm into the slender dark skinned Isan girls (darker the better) with long hair, no baby, minimal make up, no tatts, no surgery.

    The real natural bare foot up country spinner.

    Suffice to say whilst lurking the Sois in Bangkok these days I struggle to find her.

    But when I do / have and get the response "price up to you" my pulse races.

  3. #46536
    Quote Originally Posted by Stykler  [View Original Post]
    Been noticing a bit lately that when I am asking for a price for services from Thai lady, more frequently the response is "price up to you". What is the consensus on how to handle this? Anyone got any useful suggestions? Thanks.
    I love girls like this. Firstly it shows a certain level of trust. There is a high correlation between fun girls and those not specifying a price.

    It is not really a license to be stingy, more so to be very fair. You had better know the going prices, and even consider a small bonus for a magnificent time. If it is really crap, and she does not make it possible to fuck her or enjoy, then you have a license to downsize the payment and make it still fair. This rarely happens. Most crap girls are very specific about prices.

    I really can't remember the last time an 'up to you' girl turned bad. I am sure it happened, but my memory of the poor ones fades quickly. Can be physical incompatibility of course, e. G. Girls that cannot relax, very tiny pussy can't take a big dick well, or visa versa.

    Some of the very hot girls that say "up to you" may make more money on average than if they specified a fixed price every time, however they psychologically assess the customer first, to decide if customer is the generous type or stingy type.

  4. #46535

    Price, up to you.

    Been noticing a bit lately that when I am asking for a price for services from Thai lady, more frequently the response is "price up to you". What is the consensus on how to handle this? Anyone got any useful suggestions? Thanks.

  5. #46534
    Quote Originally Posted by Travel365  [View Original Post]
    No more BJ here. ! I read prior reports for 800 baht, but they said it's not happening there or any of their soi cowboy bars. Unless certain ones that have rooms upstairs.
    Thanks for that info. Some raunchy bars do have an upstairs. However this is the prudish era. I might check if BJ is still going strong in certain Pat Pong bars, like Star of Light or kangaroo bar (where FS in bar was possible long ago). HJ is not for me.

    I would use the BJ shops if have a hot girl who wants to fuck as well. Last pass of Lolytas and Kasalong did not find any talent for looks. I seem to prefer Soi 4 these days for a cheapy FS. SW and Mango are improving as an option for me with new girls lately.

    For me, performing in public is not really a big thing, but I do like to have good lighting and does excite me somewhat for the girl to be molested in public with others seeing it. I once was dissatisfied at Kangaroo bar because they wanted to take me to the back room and was very dark in there. I need to have good visuals.

    In the very old days (like 1991), one could go to the Kangaroo bar early afternoon and being receiving BBBJ and molesting maybe 5 girls at a time and could pull down their panties no problem to play with pussy or lick it. All included for buying the girls drinks, perhaps 2 or 3 rounds depending on how long you went for. Drinks were not expensive in those days but I forget how much. FS was usually in back room. Obviously some of us would like to relive the old experiences if we could find a suitable venue. It might be the special BJ bars these days like Kasilong and will be more costly.

  6. #46533
    Quote Originally Posted by Paolo99  [View Original Post]
    The last time I went to Stumble Inn (maybe 2 years ago) I almost had a physical fight with one of the drunk WG that was working there. That night four of them came successively to me and most of the time they were getting angry quicky. The waitresses were always nice though in that bar, but in my experience the WG that are working there are of the worst kind.
    I think I had a problem over a food order with a waitress. However 3 to 4 years ago the WGs I met were fine to me. Can depend on specific girls. I don't see any reasons to go in these days. I think the standard declined. I do look in from the pavement as go by sometimes, but nothing is pulling me in there.

    Many years ago I was a regular for Morning Night, mainly because was a place to get a fuck early in the day, but another era. I wish we could say places were getting better and better, but seems quite the reverse.

  7. #46532
    Quote Originally Posted by Paolo99  [View Original Post]

    The twitter account is not bad to have a look at their other girls that doesn't have their pictures featured on the web site.
    Does it show faces at all? Pics are only slightly useful without that for me.

  8. #46531
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    Most MPs are very quiet at the moment. When I went to DokiDoki last at around 3 pm, there was a big lineup available. Maybe depends what day of the week. Pick a quiet day till you know a few girls you would like to book.

    The very first time I went there, was only 5 girls available and not my spec. So I guess picking right time can be important.

    I have not seen Energy drinks given before. Ha ha. What colour was it?
    Oh it was a square bottle just like for medicines and tasted like it too. Was almost scared to take it but had to man up. For the greater good.

  9. #46530

    Jungle Jim HJ Update BKK Soi Cowboy - 500 b 1 great, 1 meh HJ at back of bar.

    Would Repeat? Yes, and have.

    Total damage: 1000 baht for HJ + massage in back of bar.

    No more BJ here. ! I read prior reports for 800 baht, but they said it's not happening there or any of their soi cowboy bars. Unless certain ones that have rooms upstairs. But then going to cost way more and might as well FS. Plus not in open bar, which was part of the point for me. Go to [CodeWord900] or elsewhere if you want BJ.

    500 baht for HJ is great cheap Charlie deal. Plus a lady drink 170-250 baht (pressure high to buy more, but I just smile and say no thank you).

    First great experience was a 7/10 hottie. Beautiful. Nice body & tits. Mid to late 20's. I recommend asking them if they provide HJ before buying a drink, as some don't really do it. She does. Tried to get me to take her friend too for extra 500 but said no. Took me to back of bar and her friend held up little towel to block view as provider did baby wipe down. Then had to ask for some baby oil (no extra charge). Older mammasan lady puts my feet up in her lap and massages legs while getting HJ from hottie. I say "no, only one girl" but she just nods and keeps massaging. I say "only pay one" and she says no problem. So why not. Pop hottie's tits out. Suck on those. Some DFK. She puts my hand under her skirt and start working fingers. Hot.

    Pretty soon I feel 3rd hand. 4th hand. Mammasan is going to work too. Hottie grabs my face for DFK, licking my nipples, hands roaming body, whispering dirty shit and licking ear, as mammasan keeps working HJ. To be honest, that was really enjoyable, so I didn't stop to say I wanted HJ from only the hottie. Good technique from both. Hottie is all over me and moaning while the johnson getting worked. Sexy. If you can't blow load sitting on bar stool, this is a different experience. But kinda hot to me getting this inside the bar with others sitting around, and see gogo dancers doing the BKK shuffle.

    Blow load and hottie cleans it up. Maybe 10-15 min total. No complaints from either. Mammasan keeps massaging my legs. Gave 500 baht to hottie for standard / fixed HJ price, and 200 baht to mammasan for the extra work. Sit down at bar for another beer, and mammasan starts massaging my back and shoulders. Felt great and I love getting a massage while kicking back with a beer in a bar. Makes me feel like a king LOL. She asks for lady drink, but no. I tip her 100 baht instead and she keeps massaging. Maybe 15 or 20 minutes. Total damage about 1000 baht for lady drink for hottie (200), HJ (500), and tips for massage (200 + 100). Plus a couple beers for me. I think they are 100 baht if I remember correct.

    I have another story here from a spinner hottie that was a real disappointment. But I should have known it, and did it anyway LOL. So my bad. I'll post that story also. Lessons for those newbies or those experienced who just forget their lessons learned.

    Would repeat: definitely, and already have at Jungle Jim's. Inexpensive release in open bar setting. And quick and easy. Don't have to wait for outcall or get ST room. Cool experience if you've never done it either.

  10. #46529
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    Most MPs are very quiet at the moment. When I went to DokiDoki last at around 3 pm, there was a big lineup available. Maybe depends what day of the week. Pick a quiet day till you know a few girls you would like to book.
    They have a twitter account that is updated everyday around 12 or 1 pm I think where we can see the schedule of the day, with which girl coming at what time.

    One day I've been there at 3 pm in order to book a girl for later in the evening and the girls that she show me on her tablet were not the same that on the twitter account so I wonder if that twitter account is for bullshit purpose.

    I agree that day (a Tuesday) business looked very slow there.

    The twitter account is not bad to have a look at their other girls that doesn't have their pictures featured on the web site.

  11. #46528
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    Ha ha. Amusing for me. Soi 4 has always been full of Cheap Charlie of any nationality, but guys can be knocked back for other reasons, e. G. Wanting BBFS is a possible one. Wanting all night, wanting to take girl too far away, wanting 2 hours for 1000 Baht. Many reasons.

    There have been acceptable looking girls on Soi 4, just one expects not many of them and can depend on time and day. What was the girl's name?. Last girl I took was slim and tall and reasonable looking called Mai, standing right next to Hooters in drive way. I could repeat. My previous really super GFE Naam is gone now. Naam told me her standard price was 1300 but she had to knock back many who tried to negotiate lower. Being skinny she was not really the type Indians go for and she stated she prefers Farangs. She was always happy with me, because I gave a bonus for extra special GFE. She could get her own orgasm too at times. Very enthusiastic performer, no wonder she has a Farang sponsor now.
    It didn't seem that all these guys were asking some special services, some of them went away after a few seconds, it looked to me that they were knocked off by the price.

    I don't know her name, I didn't talk to her and didn't hear anything. She was very slim and not tall (and looked a bit dark) and still attracted many Indians and Asians. Westerners were few I think.

    The last time I went to Stumble Inn (maybe 2 years ago) I almost had a physical fight with one of the drunk WG that was working there. That night four of them came successively to me and most of the time they were getting angry quicky. The waitresses were always nice though in that bar, but in my experience the WG that are working there are of the worst kind.

    Most of the time I can tell easily which guy is Korean from the shape of their face or their body language without hearing them talking. Some of them looked strong and they were young (at max 30). They walked in front of her without noticing her, she made the move with a big smile on her face to see the biggest guy, they talked for a few minutes but they didn't seal the deal. These guys were not looking for the prettiest girl. A few meters later they talked to another girl (a meaty girl) had some back and forth with her for maybe 10 minutes and finally all of them went back to the direction of the ST rooms (they might have gone directly to their own rooms I don't know, because they went in the same direction they were coming from) with one other girl (that girl didn't look good, and might even have been a LB).

  12. #46527
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyezhov  [View Original Post]
    For some reason your two hours of observations in one night before the tourist hard hits does not necessarily indicate any of the stereotypes you mentioned.
    I know, I won't make a generalization out of a 2 hours observation.

    It was just entertaining to watch. She was like a star in the night and attracted every guys that wanted to catch one of these girls standing near Hooters and she left all the other girls on the sideline.

    And it was funny to see how some of the topics that pops up on the forum from time to time were proven to be wrong during that timeframe.

  13. #46526
    Quote Originally Posted by Rafi77  [View Original Post]
    Around 3 pm visited Doki but it was booked solid. Lesson learnt, always make a booking before going there because its extremely popular. Kept walking and ended up in soi 33 at Mitu. Its very hard to find so do use google maps. You get a vile tasting energy drink upon arrival and an ipad to make your selection. Chose Uru and she provided excellent and eager service, willing to do anything. Mitu gets full marks on cleanliness and functionality of rooms.
    Most MPs are very quiet at the moment. When I went to DokiDoki last at around 3 pm, there was a big lineup available. Maybe depends what day of the week. Pick a quiet day till you know a few girls you would like to book.

    The very first time I went there, was only 5 girls available and not my spec. So I guess picking right time can be important.

    I have not seen Energy drinks given before. Ha ha. What colour was it?

  14. #46525
    Quote Originally Posted by Paolo99  [View Original Post]
    In the end guess who won the prize with the classy girl? Two typical Indian daddies that has been the most persistent and the most skilled in the negotiation (they adjusted their offer two more times after their initial offer). Fourth stereotype (Indians are cheap and bad at negotiating as read a few weeks ago in the Pattaya thread).
    Ha ha. Amusing for me. Soi 4 has always been full of Cheap Charlie of any nationality, but guys can be knocked back for other reasons, e. G. Wanting BBFS is a possible one. Wanting all night, wanting to take girl too far away, wanting 2 hours for 1000 Baht. Many reasons.

    There have been acceptable looking girls on Soi 4, just one expects not many of them and can depend on time and day. What was the girl's name?. Last girl I took was slim and tall and reasonable looking called Mai, standing right next to Hooters in drive way. I could repeat. My previous really super GFE Naam is gone now. Naam told me her standard price was 1300 but she had to knock back many who tried to negotiate lower. Being skinny she was not really the type Indians go for and she stated she prefers Farangs. She was always happy with me, because I gave a bonus for extra special GFE. She could get her own orgasm too at times. Very enthusiastic performer, no wonder she has a Farang sponsor now.

    Last time in Hillary 3 (I think opposite side to Hillary 4), the waitresses were annoying me so much about ordering more drinks, I had to leave never to return. The waitresses get commission so its a bad idea. A group ordering could be high commission. I did find some annoying waitresses in Stumble Inn too but for other reasons. The working girls there did not hassle me much. Its quite a while back now. Things change.

    5 Koreans order two girls. I think I would want to know more details before accepting that one. Maybe they intended to pick up more girls else where. You recognised Korean language or could tell from the way they dressed?

    Stereotypes don't apply to specific individuals, who can rise above the norm. However prejudices exist against the stereo type. If I pass a guy on Soi 4 with seriously bad body odour, I am trying to stay away and could even be a sweaty Farang with no recent shower, but its because of the individual. If same guy has no odour, then no problem. I really can't sit next to guys that reek in bars. Just not used to it, but don't mind at all what colour they are if they sit politely.

  15. #46524
    Quote Originally Posted by Paolo99  [View Original Post]
    When the time comes to fly out of Thailand after having been there only a few days for the last year I always tend to go back to the basics in my last days.

    These basics are basically the things that I know I will miss during the time I will be back home having to deal with my shitty life. That can be a simple and good Thai food, an hour of foot massage in a shop that I like, some relaxation in the only sauna that I know, taking a coffee in a good coffee shop or visiting a PSE massage shop that often delivers good stuffs and the list can go on and on.

    One thing that I'm sure to miss is the ambiance on soi 4 at night. When I'm in BKK I go there only two or three times during my whole time but strangely it's something that I miss when I'm back home.

    I went there in the night of Wednesday last week and just took a sit in the Hillary4, ordered my cold beer and watched the meat market from midnight to 2 am.

    On a note site, I really appreciated the staff in that bar, waitresses were very polite and never came to bother me and most importantly the working girls in the bar didn't come to disturb me (in the opposite of a bar like Stumble Inn were the WG are very annoying and disrespectful for example).

    Hillary4 is very well located, just in front of Hooters where most of the girls are standing.

    That night there was a girl that clearly stood out of the whole package of streetwalkers there, she was slim, had a beautiful and classy dress, a nice handbag, you could see she did put some effort in her looks on the contrary of most other girls that look like they took the first cloth they found in their room and didn't care much about their looks..
    For some reason your two hours of observations in one night before the tourist hard hits does not necessarily indicate any of the stereotypes you mentioned.

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