Kyiv

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River Palace was a true open market composed of freelancers. Nothing ever replaced it. A few hardened pros work in a fringe area of a few bars. Basically skanks without better options. But if you want to look at the eye candy on the streets and then go back to your place and rip one off with your own hand, Kiev is awesome.

Riding to the left river bank of Dnipro river on Kiev metro I had a good laugh seeing this fine gentleman in "River Palace" baseball cap (trying to attach the photo I managed to take and somehow it fails). All that's left of the truly great place

BTW, I never had to jerk off while in Kiev a total 20 weeks this past year. Didn't even allow erotic massage girls to do happy ending, as IMHO there is no point in wasting. One of them later became too intrigued, agreed to give me her phone number to meet outside, and after our third date asked me straight:

- I understand you cannot make up your mind and invite me to your place.

My immediate response was:

- Only if you insist.

Back at my apartment she made me a very happy man indeed, and more than once. Beautiful young lady!

[Sparta873]

"GIA / KEC as usual" for who exactly?

There is not much discussion of it in the last year or so. Last time I personally ordered a girl via GIA dispatcher was in November 2017.

I did meet 4-5 ex-GIA girls after that, the last one was in June 2019, and she behaved as a spoiled baby expecting to be pampered and worshipped. I declined, she left pissed off. I felt a huge relief, and returned to my apartment where more or less faithful and definitely committed GF has been patiently waiting for me.

Any agency serving downtown girls from multiple apartments would do. With GIA / KEC the game is over.

So what agencies do you recommend? Do they have sites? Kind of late to the game so not sure if it's worth it.

[Riina]

It has been a long time since I visited Kiev. Last time I was there the River Palace was the place to go, lots of girls looking for someone to take them home to a warm bed. I find myself heading back for a very short visit and I was wondering if there is any advice out there as to the new replacement for that floating boat of sin?

River Palace was a true open market composed of freelancers. Nothing ever replaced it. A few hardened pros work in a fringe area of a few bars. Basically skanks without better options. But if you want to look at the eye candy on the streets and then go back to your place and rip one off with your own hand, Kiev is awesome.

[Kater100]

Why do they? So that no need to show ID or be seen as a service provider in public? The feel of anonymity?

I guess that's it.

I think it's always a big hurdle when the women in the hotel have to show the ID when they want to come to you.

Whether as a "service provider" or as a "regular girl".

[PassinThrough]

It has been a long time since I visited Kiev. Last time I was there the River Palace was the place to go, lots of girls looking for someone to take them home to a warm bed. I find myself heading back for a very short visit and I was wondering if there is any advice out there as to the new replacement for that floating boat of sin? I have RTFF and continue to read back and it looks like Kiev has undergone some real changes in terms of quality and prices. I hope I am misreading things, please correct me if I am. Any and all advice is welcome and I am happy to contribute after my visit. Thanks in advance. Cheers.

PIT.

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Correct. Also the girls prefer apartments!

Why do they? So that no need to show ID or be seen as a service provider in public? The feel of anonymity?

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What agencies do you recommend? GIA / KEC as usual?

"GIA / KEC as usual" for who exactly?

There is not much discussion of it in the last year or so. Last time I personally ordered a girl via GIA dispatcher was in November 2017.

I did meet 4-5 ex-GIA girls after that, the last one was in June 2019, and she behaved as a spoiled baby expecting to be pampered and worshipped. I declined, she left pissed off. I felt a huge relief, and returned to my apartment where more or less faithful and definitely committed GF has been patiently waiting for me.

Any agency serving downtown girls from multiple apartments would do. With GIA / KEC the game is over.

[Tomek123]

I was in Kiev. Went to Caribbean CLub on a Thursday and it had terrible quality. 2 cute girls on a table and 1 decent one standing by the bar and that's it. I talked to the bar one and she wanted 200/ hour and would not come down. I passed.

Went with Sveta from GIA agency. Was not a good experience overall. She is very beautiful but wouldn't kiss and had a cold attitude. Blowjob was very shallow. Rushed me to finish. After first pop she was on her phone the whole time.

Sweta. Pay attention to her face. This is that type of prostitute-Topmodel. Look carefully at her face. She seems to me to believe that she is a real socialite and the whole world should be at her feet. What a funny illusion. But so often happens with these girls. Maybe she just has a constant she's a sponsor and she's no longer afraid of losing her job at this agency. We don't know. It often happens too. A girl finds some rich guy and leaves the business. I had practice with similar,prostitute-Topmodel, girls. The drawback of these girls may be that they have a slightly higher self-esteem. Also we should not forget that this profession is too hard for the female psyche and as a rule this work makes the woman hardened and makes her angry. Because it is actually a daily [CodeWord123], and far not many women can save femininity and artistry in this profession. But there are good examples. I recently had experience with Lana. I need to somehow leave a positive review. This affects the position of the girl in this corporation of sin. I was satisfied. I do not often use the services of agencies. My sex hunt occurs mainly in the Ukrainian province. Not in Kiev. But was satisfied with Lana. But I very quickly managed to subordinate her will and she quickly realized what she should do. Her weakness and softness made my erection like iron.

Her beautiful tongue. Her innocent eyes. It was all a little childish. This was something exciting. She didn't have these feminist imperious notes in her voice. This arrogance. But my behavior doesn't have it. I try to behave politely with these oriental girls. Without rudeness and anger. But firmly. Like an alpha male. You must not forget about it. From the first second you should feel the power that subjugates and dominates. You have to radiate domination if you want to have good sex with these cute UA animals. But your aesthetics can be very different — you can quote Murakami or Nietzsche or just keep quiet, or act like a black Harlem gangster guy — it doesn't matter. The style may be different, but your main idea should be male hidden Domination. I'm a predator and a male, and you will be my weak defenseless female. That's all. Will be the only way. You are a beautiful girl, but in five minutes you will stand in the pose of a dog and my cock will enter you because you are my sheep and my prey. Ou must sit confidently, you must often say, sorry, or something like that, in a word, you should get rid of all these Western complexes and overly caring for a woman in Ukraine as soon as possible. You must get rid of of all that is the essence of feminized Western civilization and culture. That is, you should not apologize, ask, be too reverent and attentive to a woman. But you should not go to the other extreme and behave like some guys from Turkey. This is also not too much self-reliant strategy. Your posture and look must be sure. You can use the style of, gangster, or the style of a professor of literature from Oxford, it doesn't matter. It's just a style. The idea itself is important. And your idea in Ukraine or Russia can be only one. You are above a woman, and she dutifully stands in a dog pose. By the way I need to draw my sex with Lana.

How can a man get the sharpest hot animal sex? The answer is simple. What excites a man most of all? What turns him into a wild animal, which gives the man the most acute powerful orgasm? What gives a powerful influx of testosterone into the blood and gives a man the greatest pleasure during sex with a woman? This is the idea of Domination. If a woman is arrogant or speaks too much, if she tries to be above you in bed, then you most likely will not get a real powerful orgasm and pleasure. Why? Because in Nature the male dominates and not the female.

Your style of behavior may be different, but the idea within you must be one-force and dominance. It doesn't matter if you are a subtle esthetic writer or play the role of a mafia guy.

[Sparta873]

AirBnB. More space. Cheaper.

Unless you have Hilton points or your corporate pays, most of Forum members prefer apartments. There are some that stay at the hotel.

What agencies do you recommend? GIA / KEC as usual?

[Kater100]

AirBnB. More space. Cheaper.

Unless you have Hilton points or your corporate pays, most of Forum members prefer apartments. There are some that stay at the hotel.

Correct. Also the girls prefer apartments!

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Hi all,

I'm traveling to Kiev soon and was wondering about the hotels' escort policies. Which upmarket hotels are the most girl-friendly (in terms of not questioning her or checking IDs or not having swipe elevator access and allowing her to come straight up to the room)? Do you prefer hotels or apartments?

AirBnB. More space. Cheaper.

Unless you have Hilton points or your corporate pays, most of Forum members prefer apartments. There are some that stay at the hotel.

[Sparta873]

Hi all,

I'm traveling to Kiev soon and was wondering about the hotels' escort policies. Which upmarket hotels are the most girl-friendly (in terms of not questioning her or checking IDs or not having swipe elevator access and allowing her to come straight up to the room)? Do you prefer hotels or apartments?

[SuperLove]

In the land of pussy galore, loud shout to all pussy and ass lovers. Lets meet and make them scream loud.

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I was in Kiev. Went to Caribbean CLub on a Thursday and it had terrible quality. 2 cute girls on a table and 1 decent one standing by the bar and that's it. I talked to the bar one and she wanted 200/ hour and would not come down. I passed.

Went to Caribbean once on September 10, Tuesday, around 11 pm. 6-8 middle aged men, bored at the bar, waiting for something to happen, and 2 brave, not the most beautiful couples dancing salsa. Tuesday must have been a mistake.

Went with Sveta from GIA agency. Was not a good experience overall. She is very beautiful but wouldn't kiss and had a cold attitude. Blowjob was very shallow. Rushed me to finish. After first pop she was on her phone the whole time.

Yep, and if you complain that Sveta advertises deep throat and kissing with tongue, management will give an answer that it's not her fault, that there was no chemistry, and the other bullshit, while shamelessly pocketing $180 of your $300 fee for the first hour, or whatever the payment was.

GIA / KEC now lists 5 or so bisexual male providers. Never before, AFAIK. Girls do not bring enough revenue.

[BoomBoomBoom]

I was in Kiev. Went to Caribbean CLub on a Thursday and it had terrible quality. 2 cute girls on a table and 1 decent one standing by the bar and that's it. I talked to the bar one and she wanted 200/ hour and would not come down. I passed.

Went with Sveta from GIA agency. Was not a good experience overall. She is very beautiful but wouldn't kiss and had a cold attitude. Blowjob was very shallow. Rushed me to finish. After first pop she was on her phone the whole time.