Nigeria

[Zakmo]

First time of me really trying to tee things up before a trip on the African continent. I've gone through a few online sites and social media to gain some contacts. Mixed results thus far. IG has better quality of semi-pros, but there's more effort required to make an "appealing" profile that would catch a top tier ladies attention. SC is similar. Not sure if it's worth it.

I found a listing site and have gotten some numbers that I'll test when I get there. Only 1 or 2 "must sees" if you will. There rest are nice to haves but not mission critical LOL. I see them more so as options for when I'm feeling lazy.

It's good to know that even as tech disrupts many industries, there are still some that remain the same. All my pre-work confirms that this is largely a 'boots on the ground' type of place. Which has it's ups and down. From a price standpoint, it's cheaper and, from an access standpoint, all the talent flocks to a few main areas with the appropriate valuation. It is nice, however, to go online and get a preview of what's out there, especially if you have a certain flavour of the month.

Boots on the ground at least allows you to visually shop around before pulling the trigger. It takes a lot of the guess work around a potential trip. You only need to worry about where to stay, logistics and how much coin to bring. It does, however, leave a lot of room for variability which online sites mitigate against, especially if you're in town for a few days on a non-weekend night. You could pull the short end of the stick.

Anyway, will update this thread when action starts popping off.

[Zakmo]

I don't want to mess on your parade, but please I'm available to see where you can get 10 k respectable ladies in Lagos and Abuja.

Did some early prep work. Checked a prominent platform sites for ladies. Got chicks calling 15-30 K for ST. Granted, the platform sight requires a payment of upwards of 6 K to post on there so the fee is kind of baked into the price. You tend to pay more for convenience.

The overnight prices are on the higher side of what I expected.

I think this confirms that this country is better for live and direct game. Go to the spots where girls are and get in that way. Online arrangements adds an additional cost layer due to the online posting fees.

The online selection was quite limited as well. So it seems like that still isn't the preferred channel for provider or hobbyist. I'll probably grab a few numbers and see what's on ground before pulling the trigger. Lagos is not as good as a ST market, really only overnights. That being said, the best overnight selection is in the actual clubs. Abuja is better suited for ST so I could possibly see more use of online sites.

[QweyLow1]

Hello all,

I am traveling to Nigeria in March and I am totally lost on if I should go to Lagos or Abuja as solo monger. I frequent Thailand and Colombia but I want to go to Nigeria this time. I have been to Nigeria many times but always stayed with people I know. Last time was in 2010 and I stayed in VI. Can anyone recommend good hotels that are girl friendly in abuja and lagos? I was in Abuja in 2005 and remember my buddy taking me to a hotel where they had about 100 girls outside of the hotel I picked up a young 18 year old Hausa girl and had a great night. I also remember picking up a Benin girl in front of a club in Lagos around 2010 and paid 5000 naira. I am sure prices have gone up LOL.

What hotels would you all recommend in both cities?

Are girls near these hotels?

Is uber the best way to get around?

How safe is it to go hunting at night?

How are the strip clubs? Are they similar to the ones in the states?

What areas are best to pick up girls?

Do you guys have any legit trust worthy drivers?

Thanks!

[Skeggles]

Great post man. You understand the lay of the land here. Locals don't pay as much as foreigners do. Just plain and simple. I know this from experience.

Main thing is to go where you'll get good discounts. If you go to the top clubs where people are dropping a lot of cash then expect to pay top dollar.

Totally agree with you Zakmo on both counts. I never pay the same as the locals virtually everywhere.

Good to know that I must be a high rolling business man or hnwi. My self esteem has just gone up 20 points.

I had no problems with the VOA process. But I think you can only do it 2 or 3 times. I stand to be corrected on that. I also believe you can extend your stay as it is usually a 30 day visa. One guy I know did extend his visa and has had 2 VOA and has been told by immigration next time he needs a work permit. Apparently they are not happy with him. Hence my belief that you can only do it a couple of times despite what it says on the website.

[Zakmo]

In reference to your other post, by local language, I think he means "Pidgin English". I'm a Nigerian as well, and if there's even a hint of me having a foreign accent then I can expect a huge increase in price. Not just for chicks, but for any good that I need to price to be honest.

You're not raining on my parade, but I was in ABJ last year around the clubs in Wuse 2 and got a girl there for about 10 K. You see them standing outside the club entrance usually looking to pick up a guy. I talked with her and we agreed for 10 K plus TP. Granted, this was late into the night where girls are looking for whatever is available. 10 K is probably as low as you can get without sacrificing quality. But I'll be back at the end of this year, so I'll test out my hypothesis on actual market conditions and report back.

As it concerns Africa, I think a lot of people overlook Nigeria for other countries, but there's a lot of value that could be had here.

[Tribute15]

We'll just have to agree to disagree here. 10 k will get you a respectable lady for a ST in both Lagos and Abuja..

I don't want to [CodeWord140] on your parade, but please I'm available to see where you can get 10 k respectable ladies in Lagos and Abuja.

[Tribute15]

Knowing the local language gives you a discount of at least 50%, you will be surprise how cheap locals pay, but as Zakmo says, it depends on timing and location. Also if you go for non-pros the price is incredibly low, but it requires more effort and more game..

Absolutely false. Which local language. There are are over 250 Nigerian languages, so what are you talking about. I don't want you to give guys false impressions and hope. I am a Nigerian and not a foreigner, so I would like to know where and which languages gives you 50% discount of 15 k.

If you want to nail maids, girls that hawk food, market girls or girls that feed the bottom tier, then 5 k can be had. But if you want decent girls, with good hygiene that can hold a conversion, then 15 k and above is your range, Even University girls won't go below that, whether pro or fresh. 15 k naira is less than $40.

I am open to going out hunting with whoever is getting the prices than a local that speaks 3 Nigerian Languages. You never know, you learn something everyday.

[Zakmo]

Knowing the local language gives you a discount of at least 50%, you will be surprise how cheap locals pay, but as Zakmo says, it depends on timing and location. Also if you go for non-pros the price is incredibly low, but it requires more effort and more game.

Those that are just beginning normally charge less, regardless of quality. I believe that those who charge more are the most pro, because they have more experience, so they have learned what a foreigner is willing to pay.

Also also if you consider the lifestyle this also affects the price. Girls who live in big cities have become more dependent on a lifestyle where there are more expenses, and they are more independent, so they need more money. But those who live with parents and in the provinces are not used to spending much, so money is more valuable to them so they will be content with less.

And of course, there are also cheap ones that are not attractive and accept anything, but that is obvious anywhere.

Great post man. You understand the lay of the land here. Locals don't pay as much as foreigners do. Just plain and simple. I know this from experience.

Main thing is to go where you'll get good discounts. If you go to the top clubs where people are dropping a lot of cash then expect to pay top dollar.

[Camilo Cms]

Locals pay minimum 15 k. Any girl below that will require a visit to the doctor for infections.

Knowing the local language gives you a discount of at least 50%, you will be surprise how cheap locals pay, but as Zakmo says, it depends on timing and location. Also if you go for non-pros the price is incredibly low, but it requires more effort and more game.

Those that are just beginning normally charge less, regardless of quality. I believe that those who charge more are the most pro, because they have more experience, so they have learned what a foreigner is willing to pay.

Also also if you consider the lifestyle this also affects the price. Girls who live in big cities have become more dependent on a lifestyle where there are more expenses, and they are more independent, so they need more money. But those who live with parents and in the provinces are not used to spending much, so money is more valuable to them so they will be content with less.

And of course, there are also cheap ones that are not attractive and accept anything, but that is obvious anywhere.

[Slowalk]

I have received guests at the airport who have done Visa on arrival. Get someone who has registered company to do an invite for you.

When you say registered company, what type of business would initiate an invitation and take responsibility for a stranger tourist? I don't have personal connections there.

[Zakmo]

January to December doesn't change prices. In fact in December there are more girls, cause a lot come from outside Lagos to make some money for Christmas and the New year. Also most schools are on holiday, so a serious influx of University students.

You can get girls from 7 k in Abuja or even 5 k in Lagos. Drive around Lekki and you can get street walkers for 5 k. But a quickie and two pops for 10 k is definitely bottom of the barrel.

We'll just have to agree to disagree here. 10 k will get you a respectable lady for a ST in both Lagos and Abuja.

And season does change prices. December sees a tick up in prices within certain circles in Lagos and the rest.

[Tribute15]

I disagree here. It all depends on location and timing.

The December period in Lagos sees an influx of foreign Nigerians who have a lot of cash to burn. Some girls charging 10 K regularly will go for 20 K. Additionally, the time of the night is very important. Early on in the night a girl will ask for a larger sum. But as the night dwindles, she'll ask for less and less. I was ABJ last year and had STs with chicks for 8-10 K and they were solid 7's.

You just have to know the game and play it well.

Location is probably the biggest determiner. Mainland vs Island. Mainland being cheaper than Island although the quality is marginal.

50 K really is only from top of the line chicks, and even then. It has to be just be a few of them.

January to December doesn't change prices. In fact in December there are more girls, cause a lot come from outside Lagos to make some money for Christmas and the New year. Also most schools are on holiday, so a serious influx of University students.

You can get girls from 7 k in Abuja or even 5 k in Lagos. Drive around Lekki and you can get street walkers for 5 k. But a quickie and two pops for 10 k is definitely bottom of the barrel.

[Zakmo]

Locals pay minimum 15 k. Any girl below that will require a visit to the doctor for infections.

I disagree here. It all depends on location and timing.

The December period in Lagos sees an influx of foreign Nigerians who have a lot of cash to burn. Some girls charging 10 K regularly will go for 20 K. Additionally, the time of the night is very important. Early on in the night a girl will ask for a larger sum. But as the night dwindles, she'll ask for less and less. I was ABJ last year and had STs with chicks for 8-10 K and they were solid 7's.

You just have to know the game and play it well.

Location is probably the biggest determiner. Mainland vs Island. Mainland being cheaper than Island although the quality is marginal.

50 K really is only from top of the line chicks, and even then. It has to be just be a few of them. But 15K isn't far off

[Tribute15]

I disagree, in reality, girls who are more expensive are often because of the context and knowledge of the market. If you go to a place where there are many foreigners, any girl will ask for more money (especially pro ones), because they have learned that foreigners pay more. If the same girl goes to a place where there are almost no foreigners she will ask for way less money, because no local will be able to pay the whiteman price. So if you know the local prices, and you pay a little more (and they know that you know the local prices) they will usually accept and that has nothing to do with quality, unless there are much more foreigners in the place where you are meeting, if that is the case she may consider getting one that can pay more. So if you go to a place where there are no foreigners, usually all the girls are going to be behind you and you can choose the prettiest one without paying an exorbitant price.

Locals pay minimum 15 k. Any girl below that will require a visit to the doctor for infections.

[Tribute15]

Forget that VOA crap. Doesn't work. Only for high rolling business men aka HNWIs. There is enough written in this thread how difficult they make it to get a Visa.

Neddy.

I have received guests at the airport who have done Visa on arrival. Get someone who has registered company to do an invite for you.