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  1. #14874
    Quote Originally Posted by Randomguy1100  [View Original Post]
    How do you guys even initiate conversation on Badoo? Most of the girls I've seen seem innocent and / or religious (head scarf). How do you determine if they are open to STR or P4P?
    It's easier than you think. Surprisingly to me, some number of the "innocent" looking, including those wearing a hijab, are open to meeting and presumably sex. Many are not tho so you just have to chat them and be patient. You will know though pretty quickly. (I'm surprised by the interest, because I'm 65 and fat...ha ha ha...but have a personality that the Indonesians take a liking to - and that plus money seems to be more important than age or looks)

    This is by no means the best or only way to do it. This is how I did it and it was an evolutionary process. Perhaps I can save you some of my wasted time.

    I started the conversation off with an intro message saying I am coming to Jakarta on such and such a date. I note that they should speak some English. Then ask them to send their WhatsApp number if they are interested.

    Initially my original reply in WhatsApp was too subtle. Goffering pointed out that: "If they agree to come to your room without a friend, then you are going to have some form of sex, even if it's just a BJ".

    So I altered my canned message to ask them if they will to "meet me at my hotel, Shangri-La, for eating, pool, + watching TV and relaxing in my room".

    This generally gets us right to the point. Some will say NO they want to meet at the mall or somewhere outside the hotel. Those are not the quick sex types most are looking for. I will accept dates with maybe 2 or 3 of those, just for a change of pace. In fact, I have one such meeting with a girl who suggested "we go out for beers", but was adamant about no sex. I took this one because she is cute, speaks good English and I want to test the theory that given multiple dates you might get sex anyway.

    Most however, will get the inference of sex and agree to meet.

    The fork in this road, is that about half will ask for "something". Shopping money, help for family, need money to take care of sister; The reasons are seemingly endless. But no matter because they clearly got the implied SEX message. The others will be those asking "How much you pay me?" I usually ask how much they want and I've gotten anywhere from 1 million to 20 million. I literally bust a gut laughing at 20 million from a fairly plain jane girl in her late 20's. I've generally settled on 1. 0 up to 1. 5 with those who allow me to video the session. Some want 2. 0 or more and those I just ignore. There are too many fish in the Jakarta sea.

    The second fork is those girls who agree to meet but never mention money at all.

    BE SURE TO CLARIFY LOCATION. This has become a recent problem. Since my Tinder & Badoo are set to Jakarta I assumed all the girls were local. Now I am finding out that some of my favorite picks live as far away a Bandung. This is ok if you want them overnight or for a few days, But all I am interested in is short time. I started asking them how long for them to get from home to Shangri-La. Flags go up when they say it is a 4 hour train ride. I try to limit it to 45 minutes. Maybe an hour during peak traffic.

    This is all preliminary legwork, so take it for what it's worth.

    I put this all to the test starting this Thursday for 10 days. REPORTS TO FOLLOW.

  2. #14873

    Starmoon

    Couldn't agree more with Smoothy. That place literally gives you an impression of a contest where they are trying really hard to staff a line up of Fugly and Low-end service. You can definitely get a vive if "we don't give a fuck" the moment you enter and encounter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    Well, I will admit the beers are cheap. But the quality of the girls in Starmoon is low. The last three times I looked in there, I couldn't find a single girl I thought was quality enough to take upstairs. You would think it would be difficult to find unattractive 20 year old girls, but that place seems to be able to find them.

  3. #14872

    Initiate Conversation?

    Quote Originally Posted by SeaTraveler  [View Original Post]
    I started using Tinder, then Badoo about 3 weeks ago because the premium memberships are good for 1 month and I arrive next Wednesday.

    FOR THOSE WHO LIKE STATS:

    Out of about 150 contacts, I narrowed my list down to 40.

    = 2 are real girlfriend material with jobs and cars and interested in a LTR and both seem to be really nice people, young and attractive. I like a few of those too. 2 is about right. No talk or mention of sex.

    All the rest have agreed to meet me at Shangri-La and go to my room (which apparently is a sign they are ok with sex or a BJ).
    How do you guys even initiate conversation on Badoo? Most of the girls I've seen seem innocent and / or religious (head scarf). How do you determine if they are open to STR or P4P?

  4. #14871
    Quote Originally Posted by DcTom75  [View Original Post]
    Heading to Jakarta early next year. How convenient is it to buy quality condoms in the city?
    Hi,

    Depends how big is your fella, if your fella is normal like Asian one then you have no problem. Also from which country you come if from India then condom is cheaper then Jakarta. I would advise you get your stuff from your home.

  5. #14870
    Quote Originally Posted by TrueGent  [View Original Post]
    Starmoon as you all know has a fishbowl. I enjoyed it there way too much and some of the girls. Wow. Large bintang bottles ranged from about 75-85 If I can remember. I had about 6 there.
    Well, I will admit the beers are cheap. But the quality of the girls in Starmoon is low. The last three times I looked in there, I couldn't find a single girl I thought was quality enough to take upstairs. You would think it would be difficult to find unattractive 20 year old girls, but that place seems to be able to find them.

  6. #14869

    Protection. Bring or buy there?

    Heading to Jakarta early next year. How convenient is it to buy quality condoms in the city?

  7. #14868
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Damn, you young guys are so lucky.
    If it were only so my friend. Was already well stocked up!

  8. #14867
    Quote Originally Posted by Stykler  [View Original Post]
    ............ didn't need to buy anything.
    Damn, you young guys are so lucky.

  9. #14866
    Most Indonesians girls are looking for LTR (Marrige and bring them to western country). This is their ultimate goal, even the one with jobs, and car.

    Majority of these girls you found will fuck you on first day, but here is the deal. Make it clear its nothing but a friendship and fun thing.

    Get ready for them to turn into Spy, and follow you everywhere even you don't know, its always best to make it clear, that you are interested in FWB thing and its nothing serious at this moment, or anytime soon.

    Quote Originally Posted by SeaTraveler  [View Original Post]
    I started using Tinder, then Badoo about 3 weeks ago because the premium memberships are good for 1 month and I arrive next Wednesday.

    FOR THOSE WHO LIKE STATS:

    Out of about 150 contacts, I narrowed my list down to 40.

    = 2 are real girlfriend material with jobs and cars and interested in a LTR and both seem to be really nice people, young and attractive. I like a few of those too. 2 is about right. No talk or mention of sex.

    All the rest have agreed to meet me at Shangri-La and go to my room (which apparently is a sign they are ok with sex or a BJ).

    = 23 have not mentioned money at all.

  10. #14865
    Quote Originally Posted by Dkooau  [View Original Post]
    Anyone knows where to get viagra and cialis with out prescription near Plaza Indonesia?
    Catch a cab and head to Classic Hotel. Just before you get there you will see many carts selling the stuff cheaply. I checked the carts out last night and couldn't find anything dodgy but didn't need to buy anything.

  11. #14864

    Viagra

    Quote Originally Posted by Dkooau  [View Original Post]
    Anyone knows where to get viagra and cialis with out prescription near Plaza Indonesia?
    Most Pharmacies and Apotek's sell it but extremely expensive.

    Won't be difficult to find.

    Pedro.

  12. #14863

    Pills

    Anyone knows where to get viagra and cialis with out prescription near Plaza Indonesia?

  13. #14862

    Recon the hotspots up north.

    I took a trip the other day to take a look at things up north. Popped into classic straight up to T5. It was about 5:30. About 12 girls and just me as a customer. Place is huge. A mamasan latched on to me and was way too annoying. I drank up my beer and left. Large Bintang bottle was 105 k. Did not bother with T2 or Travel after that. Took the train up to Kota and took a Gojek to the railway tracks. It was still only about 7 and pretty quiet. Proceeded down the dark alley, not too many ladies about and none I would fancy. Halfway down they were doing some sort of maintenance so could not proceed. I will come back at a later time on another day. Took another bike to Kotah Indah. Went in Grand LA, MTR, New Sari Ayu and Starmoon. Grand LA and MTR have the ladies packed in at the back not easily visible from the bar, they don't really make eye contact. New Sari Ayu has them to one side so I could sup my beer and take a look. Starmoon as you all know has a fishbowl. I enjoyed it there way too much and some of the girls. Wow. Large bintang bottles ranged from about 75-85 If I can remember. I had about 6 there. I will certainly return next weekend.

  14. #14861

    Social Media

    So far I have pretty good experience with Badoo and with the right approach, outcome has been very fruitful. You do get the odd FL's who suffers badly in golden pussy syndrome (5 mil for LT) but besides that most girls are pretty open to meet and greet and spending times in hotel.

    I'm still going to spend my fair share of time at Classic but will definitely try the Badoo girls on the side.

    Special thanks to Sea and all the Badoo warriors.

    Quote Originally Posted by SeaTraveler  [View Original Post]
    I started using Tinder, then Badoo about 3 weeks ago because the premium memberships are good for 1 month and I arrive next Wednesday.

    FOR THOSE WHO LIKE STATS:

    Out of about 150 contacts, I narrowed my list down to 40.

    = 2 are real girlfriend material with jobs and cars and interested in a LTR and both seem to be really nice people, young and attractive. I like a few of those too. 2 is about right. No talk or mention of sex.

    All the rest have agreed to meet me at Shangri-La and go to my room (which apparently is a sign they are ok with sex or a BJ).

  15. #14860
    Quote Originally Posted by SeaTraveler  [View Original Post]
    I started using Tinder, then Badoo about 3 weeks ago because the premium memberships are good for 1 month and I arrive next Wednesday.

    FOR THOSE WHO LIKE STATS:

    Out of about 150 contacts, I narrowed my list down to 40.

    = 2 are real girlfriend material with jobs and cars and interested in a LTR and both seem to be really nice people, young and attractive. I like a few of those too. 2 is about right. No talk or mention of sex.
    Will be very surprised if you don't end up in bed with these girls. I only went for girls like this and never went back to the hotel alone. Tended to stay clear of the obvious FL profiles. All the GND's are looking for is a nice evening out with somebody who has a bit of personality. That can end up more expensive than just picking a girl off the pile but I like the company as well so doesn't worry me. Hopefully you have found 1 or 2 gems. If I ever end up looking for some extra curricular activity in Jakarta again I'll be straight onto Tinder, don't see any need for BAT's or CJ's anymore. Definitely worth spending the time connecting prior to arriving. Have fun.

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