Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[Member #4722]

Great point. There is way more people then you think that have money in Kiev and a tremendous amount of weekend money in Kiev. Ygere Are so many Middle Eastern dudes that live there or travel in for the weekends, and many are young, another under reported fact.

Beautiful girls in Kiev have many options now:

1. Hook up with a rich local guy.

2. Travel to other countries.

3. Sponsorship.

Very easy for the truly beautiful girls. 5/6's not so easy, but that is what you will end up with most likely in Kiev. Do not believe the guys claiming they are with multiple high end girls in Kiev, simply not possible, even for locals. Good luck.

When your Ukrainian Ex from the dating site dumped you, and she said "it's not you, it's me", she lied. It was you.

[Member #4722]

Great point. There is way more people then you think that have money in Kiev and a tremendous amount of weekend money in Kiev. Ygere Are so many Middle Eastern dudes that live there or travel in for the weekends, and many are young, another under reported fact.

Beautiful girls in Kiev have many options now:

1. Hook up with a rich local guy.

2. Travel to other countries.

3. Sponsorship.

Very easy for the truly beautiful girls. 5/6's not so easy, but that is what you will end up with most likely in Kiev. Do not believe the guys claiming they are with multiple high end girls in Kiev, simply not possible, even for locals. Good luck.

It's totally understandable why you can't get laid in Ukraine. From your posting here you seem like a woman hater they are nothing but a number to you. That doesn't mean others can't have success.

[SanGaetano]

I agree with you about your warning about Ukraine. Here in Russia is not very different.

About CRP vlogger: he is not from California. As far as I know, he is Chilean. But like many immigrants he got his American citizenship after many years living in the US (mostly California). He used to be a writer. And even managed to have some books published.

I agree to many of his points when he is talking about the reality of life, specially when he talks about finances / jobs.

He is what some call "red pilled" coach or MGTOW coach. These movements are interesting, but sometimes too radical when they talk about "Abstinence", many of them are traumatized from their past relationships / marriages and now have a, well, let's say kind of hate towards woman. This is not for me. Call me a sucker if you want, but I still love women.

Back to Mr. CRP: Some of his advises are good, but some are contradictory. One of the contradictions is that he for example is pro Conservatism / right wing (or at least he was some time ago, I don't follow him anymore, so I can't say for sure now), so, he as a former immigrant himself a Trump supporter? And now he is immigrant once again in Ukraine, so what the heck?

Second, in some videos basically says very often that 99% of women are not worth it. But again he is "happily" married and has children.

But compared to the "black pill" or "honk pill" guys, he is just a normal joe next door.

You guys ever watch the vlogger Coach Red Pill? I find the dude particularly interesting, although he is a con man. He lives in Ukraine with a wife 25 years younger. Here's what he never tells you. His relationship has zero loyalty. If his wife can lock on to his finances without him, he's out the door and he knows it. Red Pill never points out that he's a man with the financial security to walk away from work. I think he's from California. Ever notice a lot of mongers are from California? The one state guaranteeing your financial security if you simply bought a house and completely enriching you if you bought real estate. I think he mentioned his father once talking about monopoly and how to buy properties.

I believe you can find whatever you want in Ukraine. The caveat is no loyalty and you better have a deep wallet.

[DramaFree11]

I use to think that Ukraine was a waste of time for young guys. I can't help but notice 20 somethings with meaningless work and terrible girl options. I really wanted to tell a dude the other day that his girlfriend is a real skank. Assuming you have some family money, get yourself out there and find a girl. Kiev is already swamped with 30 something rich kids that realized they were spinning their wheels in the West.

Great point. There is way more people then you think that have money in Kiev and a tremendous amount of weekend money in Kiev. Ygere Are so many Middle Eastern dudes that live there or travel in for the weekends, and many are young, another under reported fact.

Beautiful girls in Kiev have many options now:

1. Hook up with a rich local guy.

2. Travel to other countries.

3. Sponsorship.

Very easy for the truly beautiful girls. 5/6's not so easy, but that is what you will end up with most likely in Kiev. Do not believe the guys claiming they are with multiple high end girls in Kiev, simply not possible, even for locals. Good luck.

[Riina]

I use to think that Ukraine was a waste of time for young guys. I can't help but notice 20 somethings with meaningless work and terrible girl options. I really wanted to tell a dude the other day that his girlfriend is a real skank. Assuming you have some family money, get yourself out there and find a girl. Kiev is already swamped with 30 something rich kids that realized they were spinning their wheels in the West.

[Riina]

You guys ever watch the vlogger Coach Red Pill? I find the dude particularly interesting, although he is a con man. He lives in Ukraine with a wife 25 years younger. Here's what he never tells you. His relationship has zero loyalty. If his wife can lock on to his finances without him, he's out the door and he knows it. Red Pill never points out that he's a man with the financial security to walk away from work. I think he's from California. Ever notice a lot of mongers are from California? The one state guaranteeing your financial security if you simply bought a house and completely enriching you if you bought real estate. I think he mentioned his father once talking about monopoly and how to buy properties.

I believe you can find whatever you want in Ukraine. The caveat is no loyalty and you better have a deep wallet.

[DramaFree11]

You guys need to read 20 pages on the see. Club before booking your flight Kiev. It real is not a very good option. Unfortunately your choices are very limited, during the week, slightly better on Weekends. You best option just call escorts and meet girls on the street.

[PhotoSlider]

...To answer this question, yes I found hookers. Where and how much I will get into when I start uploading the reports, which I will, it's just that there's 17 of them....

17 reports on 17 girls, or something different?

Already put popcorn in my microwave and am awaiting.

[ShawMan74]

Did you find any hookers. If yes, where and how much did you pay?

Sorry my friend, I am guilty of gross untimeliness. I offer no excuses, only deep and sincere apology.

To answer this question, yes I found hookers. Where and how much I will get into when I start uploading the reports, which I will, it's just that there's 17 of them. It was like an avalanche hehe. I won't be able to put dates to them at this point though, sorry.

As for an earlier question you posted to me on the Kiev board "How long did it take in Kiev before you realized the scene was mostly leftovers?" I figured it might be that before I ever went to Kiev! This has been a global condition for close to 15 years now. Whether or not its worth it to you, is a personal thing.

[Riina]

I know its been 2 months since I returned, and I got a LOT of catching up to do, but I promise I will.

Did you find any hookers. If yes, where and how much did you pay?

[ShawMan74]

Much obliged. What bars are active in the evening, anywhere specific.

IMHO if you don't speak the language, it will be futile to try communicating in a loud crowded environment. Also bear in mind, your social competition might be fluent in the local language and he is also going to be an option for the ladies there. The most frequently recommended bars are "arena" and "caribbean. " I do not recommend either. Anywhere that is too big, too loud, has too many people, and has too high a turnover rate, is going to be counterproductive. That goes for many speakeasies as well. And of course as with anything, there are exceptions to the rule from time to time, but that is nothing to count on.

For me, the smaller and cozier the bar, the better. Anywhere a handful of people will come to have a few quiet well made drinks and intelligent exchange is your best chance. It draws the kind of people who have the mental focus to hold a conversation, in an environment conducive enough to have one. And this goes for working girls who are serious about working. Think about it from her point of view too. Whats she most likely to find in a popular club? A drunken stinking gopnik with 200 uah left in his pocket. Whats she going to find in a more contemplative setting? A well put together gentlemen who has about ten times that, and at least the quietude to use a translator app if need be. Which would you rather do business with?

To the rest of the board. Between the reports, living life, returning, and getting back to work, I got overwhelmed.

I know its been 2 months since I returned, and I got a LOT of catching up to do, but I promise I will.

[DramaFree11]

I say the same thing when I have to go to America for work. It is pretty shocking.

You are correct, can not disagree with that, but Rio violence is at the same level as most cities in the states. Good point.

[TinyHippo]

It is not good at all, unless you have incredibly low standards and you enjoy being a city with a incredibly high crime rate. Reckless is correct. Rio might have been good years ago, but now not at all. Very, very dangerous.

I say the same thing when I have to go to America for work. It is pretty shocking.

[DramaFree11]

Crazy statement of the year.

Yes, Rio only has 12 million people. Not one single pretty girl to be seen. Haha.

It is not good at all, unless you have incredibly low standards and you enjoy being a city with a incredibly high crime rate. Reckless is correct. Rio might have been good years ago, but now not at all. Very, very dangerous.

[TinyHippo]

Again very bad and reckless advice. Rio is not safe at all, expensive and the girls are just not that attractive anymore. There much better and safer destinations.

I am sorry I will never understand P.S. Motives and advice.

Crazy statement of the year.

Yes, Rio only has 12 million people. Not one single pretty girl to be seen. Haha.