East China - Shanghai

[PeterFox]

Contacted Linda last minute on wechat last night and got an in all appointment quickly. She was very quick to respond with easy to follow instructions. Linda looks almost exactly like her photos and she is shy at first but is very sweet once she warms up. Beautiful short spinner with soft natural TNA. Service provided is a bit vanilla compared to old saunas or the kdolls that I'm used to in the bay but Linda makes up for it in her genuine reactions. I had a great time with her. Her complex feels private and shower is connected to her room. I will try to repeat if there is time.

I was reading some old posts about MP in madang road. Can someone specify which one still offers he? Is there a yu or spring massage in that area worth trying? I'm having trouble searching what is being discussed. I used to frequent the spring massage locations before the crackdown, damn I miss those days.

I went to the MP on Madang road during golden week and during the CIIE, both times I got the 496 RMB massage which is basically teasing and HJ. First time I didn't know how much to tip, so I paid 500. Second time I negotiated 200 tip.

Not sure if there's more on offer, but I'the suggest to try out if you're into that.

[Token1]

Contacted Linda last minute on wechat last night and got an in all appointment quickly. She was very quick to respond with easy to follow instructions. Linda looks almost exactly like her photos and she is shy at first but is very sweet once she warms up. Beautiful short spinner with soft natural TNA. Service provided is a bit vanilla compared to old saunas or the kdolls that I'm used to in the bay but Linda makes up for it in her genuine reactions. I had a great time with her. Her complex feels private and shower is connected to her room. I will try to repeat if there is time.

I was reading some old posts about MP in madang road. Can someone specify which one still offers he? Is there a yu or spring massage in that area worth trying? I'm having trouble searching what is being discussed. I used to frequent the spring massage locations before the crackdown, damn I miss those days.

[Jude Bright]

I can only second what Changlelu is saying. Read some of his previous posts and you'll have a recipe of how to go about it. I would like to add though that some Mandarin skills are required. You guys in Shanghai think it's dry, but for us in Suzhou it's even worse. Punters from Suzhou are now travelling to Shanghai due to availability. Personally I haven't been able to identify any apartment girls in Suzhou, though they are rumoured to be around. The aishxx is also useful for those who want to try a sauna experience, however, I must say it appears quite expensive and more tedious compared to a few years back.

I was told that some of the SN have moved from SH to Suzhou from my old contacts. I have not tried yet, but thinking. That is not true? At least there are several in Huaqiao, outside of the suzhou, it is mocha cheaper than in SH.

[Steve 9696]

I can only second what Changlelu is saying. Read some of his previous posts and you'll have a recipe of how to go about it. I would like to add though that some Mandarin skills are required. You guys in Shanghai think it's dry, but for us in Suzhou it's even worse. Punters from Suzhou are now travelling to Shanghai due to availability. Personally I haven't been able to identify any apartment girls in Suzhou, though they are rumoured to be around. The aishxx is also useful for those who want to try a sauna experience, however, I must say it appears quite expensive and more tedious compared to a few years back.

When I was there in March my Judy's girl said Manhattan charged a fee but Judys did not and that is why she worked at Judy's. It also explains why Judy's always seemed slightly second tier to me (but still great.) I guess both charge now.

It is interesting to me that German FKK hits it on both ends. Entry fee and the girls pay. Anyhow. It's a changing! And that SUCKS!

[Jay Bird]

While it is very bad that the saunas are closed and the MPs offer only rushed and overpriced HJ service, the independent apartment girls are alive and well. FS "classes" can be had for 400, most "teachers" ask 500-600 for an hour of bliss. I know it seems cumbersome to explore the compounds, but as I previously wrote it is not that difficult for the intrepid and hungry punter. Go check the aishxx website (well reported here on ISG) and see the girls' profiles, everyday new girls go online. You can arrange everything with the help of Google translate or the Wechat translator function. If you are lucky you can have an almost similar dry sauna experience. When the circumstances change (LE crackdown) we need to adapt as well, so perhaps this is going to be the future of a gentrified Shanghai.

I can only second what Changlelu is saying. Read some of his previous posts and you'll have a recipe of how to go about it. I would like to add though that some Mandarin skills are required. You guys in Shanghai think it's dry, but for us in Suzhou it's even worse. Punters from Suzhou are now travelling to Shanghai due to availability. Personally I haven't been able to identify any apartment girls in Suzhou, though they are rumoured to be around. The aishxx is also useful for those who want to try a sauna experience, however, I must say it appears quite expensive and more tedious compared to a few years back.

[NightLife17]

Are these two bars banning Wg's outright (demand by police) or charging them a 5000 rmb bar fine? If she keeps an appartment that doubles the monthly expense.

During the expo, WG's were 'banned'; however the Expo is finished, so regular business will resume fairly soon. Regarding the 'entry fee'; this has been around for at least a year, as far as I know it. The fee ranges from 0 RMB all the way up to 10000 RMB. It depends on the bar (Judy's is cheaper), supply & demand (less girls means lower fee), and the girl herself. If Samcan's girl need to pay 5000 RMB, you could take that as a sign, that there are plenty of other girls that want to enter the bar. Means business is good; not bad.

[Beijing4987]

Are these two bars banning Wg's outright (demand by police) or charging them a 5000 rmb bar fine? If she keeps an appartment that doubles the monthly expense.

[Member #4689]

Mongering in Shanghai is fast becoming extinct.

While it is very bad that the saunas are closed and the MPs offer only rushed and overpriced HJ service, the independent apartment girls are alive and well. FS "classes" can be had for 400, most "teachers" ask 500-600 for an hour of bliss. I know it seems cumbersome to explore the compounds, but as I previously wrote it is not that difficult for the intrepid and hungry punter. Go check the aishxx website (well reported here on ISG) and see the girls' profiles, everyday new girls go online. You can arrange everything with the help of Google translate or the Wechat translator function. If you are lucky you can have an almost similar dry sauna experience. When the circumstances change (LE crackdown) we need to adapt as well, so perhaps this is going to be the future of a gentrified Shanghai.

[Beijing4987]

Will we be preparing for sexual vacations in Japan and Thailand sooner than later? Will foreigners be assigned a "social credit score score" like the Chinese citizen? The car and scooter drivers are stopping for red lights and bring far less pushy at intersections. Garbage and rubble is disappearing from the streets even in shi* hole suburbs of Suzhou. And our loving of Chinese and Vietnamese tourist women is being constrained. Fences along the roads are preventing jaywalkers from crossing at the safest place, away from crosswalks. Traffic cops are telling me to get back on the curb. An army of uniformed Martinets have employment enforcing social norms. Only good aspect is that more non smoking restaurants are available.

[Sinofaguo]

Talking to employees at the spa, they seem optimistic that things will loosen up in the new year.

Some people seem to think things will get better after CNY yes but year after year a new thing ruins the mood so its not that sure.

[The Guy]

I have not been posting much as my travels have been limited. China was not in the future but I am working on it and may be returning next year to bring back the tales of SAMCAN.

On another note I just got a message from one of my faves. Tina is back in town. You can see the post below # 11953 , We keep in touch.

She told me she just arrived and Judy's is now charging the girls 5000 rmb / month to be in there to work. This may be the end of Judy's and Manhattan's as we know it. Or prices will definitely be higher as girls have to cover their costs. Tina just arrived and found this out. She isn't sure if she will work Judy's or somewhere else (KTV).

I really like this girl, There is a post below that lists one of the many times I saw her. A couple others on this board can also vouch for her based on my recommendations.

She just arrived and will be there for a month from this post. THE PRICING IS OLD Jan 2018... i dont know what she is getting in these times that's for you to work out

I will provide digits to Sr members only with real posts not just wanting help and collecting numbers. I am very protective of this cute little spinner so I need to know you or have seen enough posts to know you but you can always try.

SAMCAN.

Yes, Sam, with saunas dead, massage parlors dying, escort service owners facing prison, Judy's and Manhattan were out last hope.

Even though they had become pricier by maybe 10 or 20 percent per year and even though some of the hottest girls only want rich Chinese guys, Judy's and Manhattan still provided a venue for a foreign monger to get a 7-8 level girl for $100-300. This is ending, I'm afraid.

Mongering in Shanghai is fast becoming extinct.

[Token1]

Used to love visiting Shanghai so very sad to see the current state that it's in. Went scouting yesterday and confirmed that my go-to sauna is closed. Lots of cars parked around so possibly under renovations. Checked out my go-to spa and they are doing construction during the day as well, making changes to all the rooms. Paid $350 for an hour which used to cover pretty much everything except FS. Now with the rooms exposed, it was just an hour long tease. Was only offered a very quick HJ at the end for $300 tip. Talking to employees at the spa, they seem optimistic that things will loosen up in the new year.

[Beijing4987]

Two hotels I was at in Jingan have a dedicated person at a desk checking for ID and asking if you are a tenant. Some providers will not come to a hotel anymore. I'll look for a service appartment.

[SamCan]

I have not been posting much as my travels have been limited. China was not in the future but I am working on it and may be returning next year to bring back the tales of SAMCAN.

On another note I just got a message from one of my faves. Tina is back in town. You can see the post below # 11953 , We keep in touch.

She told me she just arrived and Judy's is now charging the girls 5000 rmb / month to be in there to work. This may be the end of Judy's and Manhattan's as we know it. Or prices will definitely be higher as girls have to cover their costs. Tina just arrived and found this out. She isn't sure if she will work Judy's or somewhere else (KTV).

I really like this girl, There is a post below that lists one of the many times I saw her. A couple others on this board can also vouch for her based on my recommendations.

She just arrived and will be there for a month from this post. THE PRICING IS OLD Jan 2018... i dont know what she is getting in these times that's for you to work out

I will provide digits to Sr members only with real posts not just wanting help and collecting numbers. I am very protective of this cute little spinner so I need to know you or have seen enough posts to know you but you can always try.

SAMCAN.

I'm over in pudong after resting for two days. I called Tina that I met at judys. 27 yo 5 feet tall 47 kg. True spinner, Just my type. Natural Breasts. Probably large A cups. Body's an 8 face 8. Action9++ at least for me.

She showed up at the hotel. Shower together. Cuddle and kiss in bed BJ with DT action wow! Licked every spot Cowgirl, mish doggie, mish again. I'm having trouble finishing and she stays with me a long time. Love the youth. Finally done.

Rest cuddle talk she reaches down and wakes up junior for round two. Same as first. Worth every bit.

All that for 1000 RMB and a true taxi cost. I can't sleep with a girl in the room and I need rest so she has to leave. She wants to stay. Tells me we can do again in the am. I got work and can't sleep if she stays. First she tries to upcharge me 500 to stay. I say sorry. She then asks to stay promises me more action and will stay for the 1000 nothing additional. It doesn't matter. She couldn't stay if she paid me. I got to sleep. She is a beautiful spinner.

Keep looking guys. There are gems out there. Tina is one of them.

[ShanghaiExp]

Yesterday also one of my friend report to me he went to J and M but both of them were empty and some policeman waiting at entrance of those bars. Windy whether coming again?