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11-17-19 19:11 #20196
Posts: 214Two nights in Kiev
Thanks for the advice I got here on the forum and from Dave. I recently spent two nights in Kiev, here is what I did. The first night I was pretty wiped so I just ordered a massage to my AirBnB. The girl that came was cute and pretty much matched the pictures on the site. She started by stripping naked and giving me a nice body to body rub down. Touching was certainly allowed and she seems to enjoy my fingers deep inside her. The only thing I didn't try was putting a finger up her bum, not sure if that would have been OK or not. She got pretty wet with my thumb deep inside her. She finished with a hand job and then got cleaned up and left. Nothing too exciting.
The next night a friend an I decided to check out the apartments. We went to 93 K after getting all the detains from Dave. There were 3 girls and none very attractive so we left and said we would be back later when they said there would be 8 girls. I decided to try to find other apartments and was pretty successful. Here is how you can fine apartments easily:
Go to Kievlady.com.
Filter by the metro stop closest to you.
Contact some of the girls by viber and ask if it is an apartment and how many girls are there.
Most seem to be apartments and they will give you the address, you can also ask for photos of the girls which they are willing to send (faces blanked out).
Using this method we found three other apartments close by and checked them out, ending up getting two girls from one apartment.
Service was OK, mine seemed to be new and shy which my friends was an old pro. Upsell on everything which is to be expected.
It was a pretty tame trip and not as exciting as I had hoped. There is still a lot of fun to be had in Kiev but it takes longer to find it and can be hit and miss. I will say I miss the old River Palace, but it is gone and nothing seems to have replaced it well.
Happy Hunting.
PIT.
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11-15-19 22:39 #20195
Posts: 823Originally Posted by David42 [View Original Post]
Most of the girls I have experienced so far have had faces ranging from 5-7. Bodies began at range 7/8, and lately as low as 4/5 for a 1200 girl.
Photo's contact provided a girl with an 8 face, body 8.
Mika has been had by myself, and two other members of the Forum (Vitrea and David). I gave her 8 face, 9 body, and 10 performance. Will not argue with anybody, as I keep these ratings for myself, in case the girl is offered to me again, and I have no recollection after so many others.
The crazy thing about experience is that it always offers you something, if you are open to growth.
I began with strict criteria: average / ugly face ok, body must be low bodyfat, big boobs not important, prefer lighter skin over dark.
My criteria is: good manners, classy, good taste in hair, cloths, lingerie, clean skin. 18-22, no children, no smoking. I do not care about height. I do look at BMI and age. Viber photos give some idea, even when they are photoshopped. Curbside casting works better for quick assessment. I look at the attitude and how tired the girls appear.
One more question: what is your rejection percentage across few weeks?
After about 5/6 girls, I began experiencing bigger girls and liking the different experience. Often larger girls come with prettier faces, and an eager to please attitude (more services available).
So I may go through moments of feeling 'WTF! This is another bait and switch. But the girl that arrives surprises me with something the skinny girls were not giving me, so when the girl leaves, I rarely feel cheated.
Considering this is the first visit to Kiev, I would say there's huge progress. The fact that it took you 3 weeks to ramp up the primary activity says a lot about your sincerity. I started 15 years ago with short 2-3-5 days visits, had variability in success, and gradually increased my length of stay.
In 2008 had one particular girl 8 times. Elina moved to Kiev from Simpheropol. On her last arrival I extended once, and then told her:
- I am out of money!
And she exclaimed:
- Why didn't you tell me beforehand? I would have taken my own with. I like being with you sooo much!
And then told the story how one of the girls from her base went MIA, - Missing in Action. She disappeared with the client without notifying mamasan, incommunicado for over 24 hours, and then quit. That was a long time ago. Don't think management allows such freedoms these days.
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11-15-19 10:20 #20194
Posts: 29Originally Posted by PhotoSlider [View Original Post]
Cost breakdown-.
Roughly 1200 accommodation, 2000 girls, 1200 all other costs. I will probably get through at least 30 girls, not including repeats (I started from week 3).
Note- I came here for an opposite / different experience to what I experienced in the Dominican Republic where I spent about 6 mnths overall.
I didn't want to talk about myself too much, wanting to just spread info about the girls, but ultimately my actions in this environment always reveal who / what I am.
I was a good-looking guy with an average / chubby, 5 ft 8 in body, in my younger years (I did a decade and half of clubbing, so I prioritise body over face.
Most of the girls I have experienced so far have had faces ranging from 5-7. Bodies began at range 7/8, and lately as low as 4/5 for a 1200 girl.
Photo's contact provided a girl with an 8 face, body 8.
The crazy thing about experience is that it always offers you something, if you are open to growth.
I began with strict criteria: average / ugly face ok, body must be low bodyfat, big boobs not important, prefer lighter skin over dark.
After about 5/6 girls, I began experiencing bigger girls and liking the different experience. Often larger girls come with prettier faces, and an eager to please attitude (more services available).
So I may go through moments of feeling 'WTF! This is another bait and switch. But the girl that arrives surprises me with something the skinny girls were not giving me, so when the girl leaves, I rarely feel cheated.
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11-15-19 09:34 #20193
Posts: 29Originally Posted by Riina [View Original Post]
Semi-pros to me is a grey area (ATM to me this means quick sex, money involved). I guess at my age (49), when I'm with a young girl, I accept that there's always payment in some form.
Maybe I shouldn't have used the term semi-pros.
Those who have been there many times will have a better understanding.
If Rog and yourself disagree, then your'e probably right.
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11-14-19 18:40 #20192
Posts: 823Originally Posted by David42 [View Original Post]
Staying in Kiev long term (6 weeks) is your major advantage.
Subjectively speaking, what is your rating distribution? Do you score mostly 6-7? Are there occasional 8's and 9's? Do you feel mostly cheated out and scammed or satisfied with more than half of your girls? I am simply curious.
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11-14-19 16:31 #20191
Posts: 715Coyote Ugly
Originally Posted by David42 [View Original Post]
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11-14-19 09:52 #20190
Posts: 29Methods of finding WGs. Review
APPS.
Badoo- least successful, but the best at extracting my money.
Tinder- average.
Mamba- most success with contacts, although my bank saw Mamba ru as dodgy, so beware.
Websites..
RelaxKiev- not a bad website to begin with, as its easier to interact with, got some girls from here too.
Ukrgo- interesting website as its updated by the second!! Lots of trial and error is required here, but it yielded plenty of contacts.
General. Until experienced with online mongering, never expect the girl in the picture (after the first 5/6 disappointments I don't operate that way anymore). That picture is used as a hook to get you to connect and that's ok, it leads to another contact / girl / agent.
Through the emotional process of the hits and misses, I have realised that you get gems throughout the price spectrum, from 1200 to 3000. Lower priced girls can be humble and more enthusiastic in bed, but communication, hygiene, time-keeping is often worse.
P.S. Many thanks to PhotoSlider for his advice and patience.
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11-13-19 22:46 #20189
Posts: 29Mechnycova st, 10 brothel / apartment review
1200 Price level.
Checked it out today.
At that price level I wasnt expecting a lot.
10 pm Wednesday. 3 girls working.
Brunette, blond, redhead. All big busted, average height, and a bit overweight. Age range 22-28.
I took the brunette Adelina, who claimed I was her first punt!! (because its hard to tell, I don't take that comment too seriously).
Sex was great as she was a bit of a tiger in bed. Boobs bit saggy, body big and chunky but not that flabby.
I think 1200 was good value.
Door no3 (through archway left of Lviv Croissants, then left again), apartment 33 Floor 4.
If your are into big busted, chunky women, then the price is a bargain.
PM me for phone number.
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11-12-19 01:17 #20188
Posts: 597Originally Posted by David42 [View Original Post]
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11-11-19 23:21 #20187
Posts: 65Originally Posted by David42 [View Original Post]
If this is true I will go there next time.
Thanks for the tip. Highly appreciated.
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11-11-19 23:02 #20186
Posts: 715Originally Posted by SuperLove [View Original Post]
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11-11-19 21:42 #20185
Posts: 124Originally Posted by David42 [View Original Post]
When I'll be back in Kiev I'll write you. Maybe I can try some to complete our reviews))).
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11-11-19 14:14 #20184
Posts: 6Originally Posted by SuperLove [View Original Post]
Those women are too ugly, even for only talking with.
And you even graded one of those women a 10. LOL.
These women range from 3 up to 4.
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11-11-19 09:53 #20183
Posts: 3Originally Posted by David42 [View Original Post]
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11-11-19 09:44 #20182
Posts: 29Coyote ugly review SAT night
Nr KLOVSKA metro. Walking distance from my apartment.
Went 1130 pm. 75% full, 190 uah cheapest ticket, includes one drink.
Music. Loud electronic / dance Russian half of the time, good English stuff the other half.
Lots of dancing!
Girls. Good mix of normal, semi-pros.
Good enough ratio.
Not a bad place, as long as your not there only for the music.
I left at 1 am, and it was getting busier.