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11-26-19 22:25 #4372
Posts: 744Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce [View Original Post]
Has anyone had any luck with this agency lately?
Thanks for the review TerOnlyOnce. The bad ones like this one are the ones that help the most. Avoid Tara. Got it.
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11-26-19 19:51 #4371
Posts: 279Originally Posted by ChubzyMaximus [View Original Post]
I guess many visitors are a bit shy and nervous of what they are doing. So they prefer least communication with the booker and expect the best. Well it's a recipe for missing out.
This is Montreal folks. Let it go don't be shy. Talks to bookers. Also if one booker gives you special attention let him know you will only use his agency for your trip if he helps you out. Booker need to know your plan to help you out. For example if you want 2 h or even 3 h session my god let them know!! They will prioritize you big time as it's easier for everyone to book a girl multiple hours.
Cheers,
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11-26-19 13:37 #4370
Posts: 39Originally Posted by Frank11 [View Original Post]
1) You can ask them blantant and explicit questions about your preferences before seeing them. This includes asking or suggesting specific clothing, lipstick, or accessories.
2) Indy on the green at least always trend older. This usually means they already have experience in the industry. Often this translates into an increased willingness to "let themselves" naturally react when intimate. This leads me to my next point.
2.1) Indy are much more inclined to DFK with passion than Agency ladies. This isn't to say agency girls do not DFK. It's just much more likely on average to get that sweet DFK from indy. This isn't a concidence. Many of the more popular ladies in the agency that have since retired gave generous DFK and sweet GFE. Many who go on to become Indy do as well.
3) Indy rates are very often all inclusive. So, while it may seem like it's way higher, if she's giving you CIM or CIMSW at 300 hour, it's not that bloated compared to say an agency at 220 h where there is usually a $40 CIM upcharge.
4) TIME. With the indy I've seen at least, I've always got the full time. Never a minute less. And often a few minutes more. All have asked if I wanted to take a shower once my time was up. Never before. At the agency they simply cannot be as generous with time because they have back to back bookings. Maybe if you're the last of the day that's different.
I don't like paying more. All girls are totally about the money until the day they aren't doing this anymore. Never think otherwise. They make as much as they can while they can, although some aren't as profit mongering as others.
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11-26-19 04:25 #4369
Posts: 64Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce [View Original Post]
LOL. I'm also from the US but never have bothered with that bullshit. Not worth it. Only place I have mongered in the US is Nevada where it is safe and legal. Sure prices are higher than in the illegal scene but you don't have to worry about being stabbed, robbed, or arrested! The girls there are even regularly tested for STIs. Nevada's legal scene is more similar to German FKKs. In NV you have a club type of environment and can choose girls from a lineup. There are pics online but they are usually pretty accurate and are rarely completely fake. Never used backpage or similar sites such as skip the games in the US so I wouldn't be used to something like leolist.
Good to hear the rest of your trip turned out well.
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11-26-19 01:38 #4368
Posts: 510Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce [View Original Post]
One thing I noticed for sure, there's a lot of locals who write favorable reviews cause they think they will get in good with a girl, others who give so, so, service a pass cause the girl is really hot, and others who just don't have the gonads to come out and say they had an average time with a popular girl (I myself am guilty of this).
So the girls you think your missing out on, might not be in reality what they are hyped up to be. One time I went to MTL, and had a TSL, didn't see one chic on that list. My plan be's and see's also bailed, but still had a blast. Remember Sam from XO pointed out a girl after none of the girls I wanted to see were available or canceled. Don't think I would booked this chic had he not mentioned her to me. Booked her for 90, she ended up staying another half hour.
Talk to the bookers, forget prebooking, forget the starlets, you may not think they are one, or might be able to book a starlet in evolution, LOL! Just go to MLT and enjoy!
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11-25-19 21:42 #4367
Posts: 144Originally Posted by Jalimon2 [View Original Post]
My last day in Montreal was great and I can't complain at all. I had a great 90 minute session with the same girl from last night which was plenty of fun. I fucked her tits a lot and we cuddled and chatted. It was an eye opening experience and makes me think I should try for some civilian girls again even if I can't fuck them. In reality, just sex and no connection with the girl can really suck, especially after you nut. At the same time, paying for sex is excellent when you are at a low point with women and haven't gotten laid in a really really long time. So it's like a balancing act. When I'm over sexed I tend to go for more connections, but when I'm under sexed I pay for sex and go for sex no matter what.
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11-25-19 17:02 #4366
Posts: 279Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce [View Original Post]
But I would never ever suggest Leolist or AI or Hump or 123 to any outside visitors. Those ad site are filled with 95% bait. You got lucky but continue and you will see what I mean These independent web add sites are for hard core locals. And still most local I know never bother they prefer to pay a bit more the agency way.
Cheers.
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11-25-19 16:35 #4365
Posts: 279Originally Posted by Frank11 [View Original Post]
Also Twitter helps to bring more high price independent. It's free and easy marketing / networking.
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11-25-19 05:40 #4364
Posts: 144What about leolist?
What are people's thoughts on leolist? I found a great girl on there this afternoon. Really huge tits, G cups, super big. She let me titty fuck them and have fun with them for an hour today. I was able to negotiate down to $160 an hour. It was a good session so I rebooked her for tomorrow morning, but this time 90 minutes at $220. I'm starting to really like leolist. There are a lot of girls on there and potential for some great finds. I like working directly with the girl and texting her. Plus I find that you can negotiate some really great prices. It's very flexible since you are working 1 on 1 with the girl and she is probably a more amateur provider / normal girl. You can knock off 10-15% off the "sticker" price in some cases. It reminds me of Tijuana Mexico, a lot of people would go right into the clubs and fuck the girls in there. I did that too, but I much prefer the street girls. Why? Well the main reason is because they are super cheap. Like $20 USD for 20 minutes. You can basically get an hour for $60 USD. It's really really cheap with street girls. The street girls aren't ugly too. You can find some really hot girls like 8/10 if you keep looking and stay on the lookout. That's why I like the street so much. It's more effort and screening, but in the end you find much better deals, save more money, and have a good time.
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11-25-19 00:20 #4363
Posts: 2994Originally Posted by Frank11 [View Original Post]
Their advertising costs are significant, as they usually maintain their own websites and pay a photographer.
They usually Uber to outcalls, which is more expensive than the agency "carpool".
And most have a separate work smartphone for calls, emails, and to do basic screening and security.
Those costs are borne by the agency and spread among the agency ladies by the agency taking a "cut".
Not sure that most independents don't have a higher "overhead" fee per session than agency girls do. And it isn't an upfront fee an agency lady.
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11-24-19 23:43 #4362
Posts: 144Review: Amira from vogue, pretty good
So far my trip has been good. I saw Amira from vogue earlier today. She is a very nice girl. If anyone is on the fence about her I would go see her. She is nice and ensures that you will have a good time. Reminds me of girls that I would normally get in real life. Very laid back, a bit quiet, and goes with the flow. She is good, I recommend.
I booked a girl from leolist and she should be arriving shortly. I had to cancel a booking from xo escorts, 4 hours notice. I feel bad but things turned out differently for me. I'm sure there are cancellations. In fact, the 2nd vogue girl I booked canceled on me today which worked out since I discovered that leolist has some pretty solid girls on there. A lot of junk but if you sift through it you can find some solid pictures. One girl has G cup tits that is coming to my hotel in an hour. I am excited about that. I'm hoping the pictures are accurate and she is a nice girl.
Overall paying for sex is a different experience. I'm use to meeting girls out on a date, chatting and vibing, and then bringing them back to my apartment to fuck them, then venmo them some money. This is my standard routine for girls that I meet on sugar daddy websites. Here it's a bit different, of course it's a direct transaction and it's timed, so psychologically that can fuck with you a bit during the session. Plus there's the question of: are the girls somewhat enjoying the session or is 90% of their focus on making money, going through it, and then heading home. It's all very psychological and it doesn't help to think so deeply on it.
I will say that I enjoy both paying directly for sex, and putting in the work to actually earn the girl. Both have their benefits and downsides. Getting exactly the girl you want is nice and can be fun. But there is a different kind of fun when you actually earn the girl and see that she wants to be horny for you and fuck you. I've had both experiences, there's definitely a marked difference. I guess it all comes down to chemistry, but again both aspects have their advantages and disadvantages.
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11-24-19 23:33 #4361
Posts: 247What type of men prefer the independent women? Without criticizing anyone, some of the independent girls have higher prices so exactly who is going to pay more and For what reasons? Plus the independent girls get to keep the entire payment. As opposed to the escort girls who have to split it with the agency. If the independent girls keep all the money then For which reasons do they feel the need to charge more? Unless there is a good explanation, it just seems From a certain point of view like The independents are stepping on their own feet.
In some situations it would just be better for the girl to Make friends With the guy so they can spend more time Together or have more sessions instead of trying to balloon raise the prices. Anyways, it's never about the money. People should just focus more on providing a quality creative service only then will they get ahead of themselves.
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11-24-19 16:59 #4360
Posts: 144UPDATE AND REVIEW: Tara from XXXtase, not so great
Hi everyone. First I just want to apologize for my posts earlier. I was honestly very new to the process and got a little disappointed and got carried away. The process is not that bad. Usually on the day before the schedule is somewhat rounded out so I would recommend booking the night before. I enjoyed my first night here yesterday and I saw one girl. The experience with her was not too good as I will review below. I also want to mention that I did try to book an indy that I found from https://www.indycompanion.com/. I was texting with her and found out she requires a deposit. I didn't see the point to pay it when vogue and xo will let me book with no problems and no deposit, so I passed on the indy. Plus, she was actually a bit more expensive then the agencies, $250 CAD.
Now for the review: I saw Tara from XXXtase and she was not that great. I just want to say that I went into this very objectively and have communicated with the agencies and girl thus far in a very down to earth and casual way. I do have some courtesy and for the most part am not a loud idiot. That being said, I personally did not enjoy my session with Tara to the best extent. Yes she has huge titties which is why I was excited to book her. They are very big, one tit is almost as big as the size of your head if you are into that. They are fake tits. It was all great and I got to titty fuck her for sometime, but in general she didn't have a solid attitude towards the session. She didn't allow any kissing and no BBBJ. I was surprised, thought BBBJ was the standard? She also didn't take her pants off during the session. I was mainly there to titty fuck her huge tits which is what I wanted and got to do. But there was not even an offer or gesture towards sex. In fact, she was actually encouraging me to cum after 10 minutes in the session.
Tara from XXXtase in a terrible provider. I highly recommend to avoid her if you want to save your money. I really feel that I should put this up there and make this public. Some guys would really benefit to know this information. Let me be the Guinea pig, let me take one for the team and waste my money for you, and give you the information so you don't have to find out yourself. She is awful. Yes her tits are huge, but really you won't be able to enjoy them as much as you would like. You can tell she has restrictions. It was so awkward because I wanted to do more, I wanted to really enjoy her tits, but I knew she wouldn't let me. And when I did try to enjoy them, she backed off towards the end. She does not want to please you, she does not care about that or you, she just wants to deliver sub par experience, and leave. She complained a lot about me rubbing her tits. She complains to me and says she hates it when people touch her tits!
Half way into the session, she wouldn't let me titty fuck her anymore and told me I could jerk off to her tits as she put them in my face. She has huge tits but she doesn't like to use them very much. Again, she says she hates it when guys touch her tits. If you like huge tits guys, she is not the one for you. Way too many restrictions, isn't interested in ensuring your desires are met, just wants you to cum quickly so she can leave. In fact, she actually left 12 minutes early. This was a problem in tijuana as well, girls leaving early. I mean, honestly it worked out cause I was able to make it to this restaurant before it closed. But in general, she was really bad. I wonder if most girls leave 10-15 minutes early? Yes I track the time each session starts. I wish the girls would just uphold their commitment and stay and deliver.
Another thing, she ate some of the stuff I had in my hotel room without asking me first. And she used a lot of my lube, like gushing tons of it. It's interesting, I paid her $200 CAD and this is how she treats me? This is how she treats clients? I know as a client I have to be respectful and courtesy as well, but for christ sake I'm paying her $200 CAD. I should be able to get an experience that I really like and really am into.
In short, I would not see her ever again, and recommend others to not see her either. I will be compiling a list of reviews, mainly bad reviews and will be posting them on here and maybe merb down the line. This list will serve as a guide for the providers that you should avoid and not see again. Even if you don't agree with the list I would still read it just to be informed.
I have 3 girls I will see today. 2 vogue and 1 xo. I'm planning 1 more xo girl tomorrow afternoon. Hopefully it all goes well.
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11-24-19 16:28 #4359
Posts: 744Originally Posted by DuppleHouse [View Original Post]
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11-23-19 21:59 #4358
Posts: 2994Originally Posted by MtlLocal [View Original Post]