Moscow

[Cucumber]

Holy smokes dude. 3 ladies per day, everyday? You must be on some serious industrial-strength Cialis! Where can I get that? LOL!

Cialis does the trick for me. Regular cialis tablets are 20 MG, but if I take that much I get a cracking headache and it feels like my eyes are bulging. So I just take about 4 MG, and that is more than enough for me.

And one more detail: I try to not to come until the last girl. Orgasms aren't that important for me. Mainly I enjoy the aesthetics, various aspects of physical interaction and the thrill of being with somebody new and exploring her. And if you have lots of sex without coming, in the end I get really worked up, I become kind of electric, erections come easily, and then when I finally have an orgasm it is an almighty one. Girls often refuse to accept that I don't want to come and try to force or lure me to come. I say it's ok, I really don't need to come and when you get tired of sex we can just stop. But often they won't let go of it. A bit of pride, or the satisfaction of making a man come, IDK. It results in a wonderful game. Sometimes I lose and that is not so bad either.

[Eforel]

I think you have some valid and important points and combined with my input they give a good multifaceted picture. If one has a lot of time, or relocates to Moscow, and / or if one is single and wants to find a wife or multi-meeting p4 p and / or civilian relationships, it can be a good place to be. Also, if it is important to be with white girls, it strengthens the arguments in favor of Moscow.

However, in a case like mine (of which there are many), it is not so suitable. I am just there for a few days and I am (very) pressed for time both while I am there and before I go. I can't and don't want to spend hours and days on online dating platforms in advance. While I am there, I can only spend 30-40 % of my awake time on mongering, the rest is spent on work. Importantly, in the short time I have available, I want to sleep with as many girls as possible, ideally an average of 3 per day. Basically I want to enjoy life like a serial orgy for a few days. For that purpose, I need something more like shooting fish in a barrel and less like a three-month trek across the taiga. Barrel-fishing seems possible at the upmarket strip clubs, but at the rate I churn through girls it would cost around USD 1000 per day. I am more interested in GFE and creative, intimate, dirty (but of course protected) sex than in sticking my dick into barbie dolls. Having been with a lot of model-type girls over the years including dating a couple of Western models on an entirely non p4 p basis, I strongly believe that they do not provide the best sexual and romantic experiences. It is nice to sleep with some white girls every now and then, but it is not decisive for me. I am mostly not interested in girls 170 cm+ and one of the most accessible segments in Moscow is taller girls.

Holy smokes dude. 3 ladies per day, everyday? You must be on some serious industrial-strength Cialis! Where can I get that? LOL!

[Cucumber]

Sorry, have disagree. Germany / Tijuana are great for a couple of days, but longer periods it gets old. Moscow is great for long term Destination. Takes a little work, but that makes it even better. I have talked and others as well have talked about not going to girls apartments, it will just be a waste of time / resources. Have them come to you, you can always send them away. There are so many hot girls here, young and old. If you like Skinny and natural.

Also what I love about Moscow you have following:

1. Great night life on the weekends.

2. You can meet semi-pros online or in public.

3. Escorts easy accessible and very easy to find beautiful girls. Under $100 will be challenging.

4. Strip Clubs, very good but expensive.

5. Taxis / Apartments very cheap.

6. Hot girls everywhere.

7. In general people are very helpful here.

8. Very few Sex Tourists and the ones that are here have to behave. You can all the fun you want, but you have to behave. Other destinations S. T. Behavior is terrible. (Kiev).

Many destinations you will have one of these, but not all.

I think you have some valid and important points and combined with my input they give a good multifaceted picture. If one has a lot of time, or relocates to Moscow, and / or if one is single and wants to find a wife or multi-meeting p4 p and / or civilian relationships, it can be a good place to be. Also, if it is important to be with white girls, it strengthens the arguments in favor of Moscow.

However, in a case like mine (of which there are many), it is not so suitable. I am just there for a few days and I am (very) pressed for time both while I am there and before I go. I can't and don't want to spend hours and days on online dating platforms in advance. While I am there, I can only spend 30-40 % of my awake time on mongering, the rest is spent on work. Importantly, in the short time I have available, I want to sleep with as many girls as possible, ideally an average of 3 per day. Basically I want to enjoy life like a serial orgy for a few days. For that purpose, I need something more like shooting fish in a barrel and less like a three-month trek across the taiga. Barrel-fishing seems possible at the upmarket strip clubs, but at the rate I churn through girls it would cost around USD 1000 per day. I am more interested in GFE and creative, intimate, dirty (but of course protected) sex than in sticking my dick into barbie dolls. Having been with a lot of model-type girls over the years including dating a couple of Western models on an entirely non p4 p basis, I strongly believe that they do not provide the best sexual and romantic experiences. It is nice to sleep with some white girls every now and then, but it is not decisive for me. I am mostly not interested in girls 170 cm+ and one of the most accessible segments in Moscow is taller girls.

[Eforel]

Thanks for the FR! I do think it confirms the high end clubs are the only safe bet. I think it's a bit unfair to compare it to FKK tho which is one of the best venues in the world. There is no question if choosing Frankfurt or Moscow it's Frankfurt hands down. Moscow is one of the more expensive destinations worldwide. Right up there with Tokyo at $300 US for a nice complete experience IMO. BUT if you have to go to Moscow anyhow and hVe a $300/ night budget it's fucking awesome.

If you want bang for your buck So Paulo Brasil is your best choice. You can absolutely bang a hot girl, including BBBJ for $30 US (not a typo). I put them in this this order for best value for a hot girl (note that Thailand prices have gone up and hotness down). And there is a big gap between London and Moscow. You can bang a model in London for $120/ half HR. Or $170/ HR..

Posting this list on my refrigerator now.

[DramaFree11]

Leaving Moscow after a few days. Confirmed my previous impression that this is not a good mongering destination for me. The high-end strip clubs may be worthwhile for those who like that kind of thing, but from the descriptions posted by some of the strip club fans here they don't actually seem very attractive to me.

Other options: There are lots of ads online, both for individuals and salons, but it is very hard to work with them. Difficult to get through on the phone, many of them misleading (individualkas are not the same as on pics, individualkas turn out to be salons, salons are not the salons they claim to be, neither indivdualkas or salons are in the locations they claim to be, exorbitant sell up, etc.), great distances to get to places, not many girls to select from in each place and people are often dishonest and / or rude (Muscovites are infamous across Russia for being arrogant and rude). For example, I travelled 40 minutes by taxi to a place where there were supposed to be 10 girls. Due to the inaccurate description there were some troubles finding the right place. When I finally found it, the dispatcher stopped taking the phone. When she finally took it, she said security had decided they wouldn't let me in and hung up. Another 40 minutes return trip by taxi. Typical Moscow..

Sorry, have disagree. Germany / Tijuana are great for a couple of days, but longer periods it gets old. Moscow is great for long term Destination. Takes a little work, but that makes it even better. I have talked and others as well have talked about not going to girls apartments, it will just be a waste of time / resources. Have them come to you, you can always send them away. There are so many hot girls here, young and old. If you like Skinny and natural.

Also what I love about Moscow you have following:

1. Great night life on the weekends.

2. You can meet semi-pros online or in public.

3. Escorts easy accessible and very easy to find beautiful girls. Under $100 will be challenging.

4. Strip Clubs, very good but expensive.

5. Taxis / Apartments very cheap.

6. Hot girls everywhere.

7. In general people are very helpful here.

8. Very few Sex Tourists and the ones that are here have to behave. You can all the fun you want, but you have to behave. Other destinations S. T. Behavior is terrible. (Kiev).

Many destinations you will have one of these, but not all.

[Steve 9696]

Leaving Moscow after a few days. Confirmed my previous impression that this is not a good mongering destination for me. The high-end strip clubs may be worthwhile for those who like that kind of thing, but from the descriptions posted by some of the strip club fans here they don't actually seem very attractive to me.

Other options: There are lots of ads online, both for individuals and salons, but it is very hard to work with them. Difficult to get through on the phone, many of them misleading (individualkas are not the same as on pics, individualkas turn out to be salons, salons are not the salons they claim to be, neither indivdualkas or salons are in the locations they claim to be, exorbitant sell up, etc.), great distances to get to places, not many girls to select from in each place and people are often dishonest and / or rude (Muscovites are infamous across Russia for being arrogant and rude). For example, I travelled 40 minutes by taxi to a place where there were supposed to be 10 girls. Due to the inaccurate description there were some troubles finding the right place. When I finally found it, the dispatcher stopped taking the phone. When she finally took it, she said security had decided they wouldn't let me in and hung up. Another 40 minutes return trip by taxi. Typical Moscow.

Had a couple of ok experiences at a place called KlubNIKA (a wordplay) http://clubnikaclub.com/ . It is a lower end strip club with a salon on the second floor. It's reasonably central, but in an obscure location. You have to enter a kind of industrial area via security booth. Some of the strippers are very hot, but they only do long time your place and that may cost around 20 000 roubles. Around 15 girls available upstairs, in all shapes and sizes (I. E. Varying quality). Only 5000 for an hour, but they try to squeeze more out of you for all the dop. Uslugi. - which includes DATY. Ended up having a beautiful session with a 33 year old, slightly (but not unpleasantly) voluptuous blonde, but then it cost 11 000 in total (USD 170). Meanwhile lots of loud, drunk guys coming and going in the corridor, and the bedrooms and bathrooms are rough though they throw a clean sheet over the bed.

I have lived in Russia, dealt with Russia for 20+ years, speak very fluent Russian, and I can have great conversations with the girls (and also communicate with taxi drivers, dispatchers etc. With ease). For anyone who doesn't know Russian and doesn't know Russia, but wants white girls, I would think they would be better off going to Frankfurt. The sex culture there can be a bit mechanical (even if the girls are not German, they seem to pick up the sex culture fast), but so can it here nowadays. If one visits the three largest FKKs in Frankfurt there are so many girls to choose from that it is always possible to find someone with the right chemistry. The prices are not higher than Moscow and the setup is incredibly much more convenient, especially if you want to live like a king and be with several girls every day.

Bye bye Moscow.

Thanks for the FR! I do think it confirms the high end clubs are the only safe bet. I think it's a bit unfair to compare it to FKK tho which is one of the best venues in the world. There is no question if choosing Frankfurt or Moscow it's Frankfurt hands down. Moscow is one of the more expensive destinations worldwide. Right up there with Tokyo at $300 US for a nice complete experience IMO. BUT if you have to go to Moscow anyhow and hVe a $300/ night budget it's fucking awesome.

If you want bang for your buck São Paulo Brasil is your best choice. You can absolutely bang a hot girl, including BBBJ for $30 US (not a typo). I put them in this this order for best value for a hot girl (note that Thailand prices have gone up and hotness down). And there is a big gap between London and Moscow. You can bang a model in London for $120/ half HR. Or $170/ HR.

São Paulo.

Frankfurt.

Bangkok.

London.

Moscow.

Tokyo.

USA.

[Riina]

Leaving Moscow after a few days. Confirmed my previous impression that this is not a good mongering destination for me.

If you can't get access to sweet things, your options are all junk.

[Cucumber]

Leaving Moscow after a few days. Confirmed my previous impression that this is not a good mongering destination for me. The high-end strip clubs may be worthwhile for those who like that kind of thing, but from the descriptions posted by some of the strip club fans here they don't actually seem very attractive to me.

Other options: There are lots of ads online, both for individuals and salons, but it is very hard to work with them. Difficult to get through on the phone, many of them misleading (individualkas are not the same as on pics, individualkas turn out to be salons, salons are not the salons they claim to be, neither indivdualkas or salons are in the locations they claim to be, exorbitant sell up, etc.), great distances to get to places, not many girls to select from in each place and people are often dishonest and / or rude (Muscovites are infamous across Russia for being arrogant and rude). For example, I travelled 40 minutes by taxi to a place where there were supposed to be 10 girls. Due to the inaccurate description there were some troubles finding the right place. When I finally found it, the dispatcher stopped taking the phone. When she finally took it, she said security had decided they wouldn't let me in and hung up. Another 40 minutes return trip by taxi. Typical Moscow.

Had a couple of ok experiences at a place called KlubNIKA (a wordplay) http://clubnikaclub.com/ . It is a lower end strip club with a salon on the second floor. It's reasonably central, but in an obscure location. You have to enter a kind of industrial area via security booth. Some of the strippers are very hot, but they only do long time your place and that may cost around 20 000 roubles. Around 15 girls available upstairs, in all shapes and sizes (I. E. Varying quality). Only 5000 for an hour, but they try to squeeze more out of you for all the dop. Uslugi. - which includes DATY. Ended up having a beautiful session with a 33 year old, slightly (but not unpleasantly) voluptuous blonde, but then it cost 11 000 in total (USD 170). Meanwhile lots of loud, drunk guys coming and going in the corridor, and the bedrooms and bathrooms are rough though they throw a clean sheet over the bed.

I have lived in Russia, dealt with Russia for 20+ years, speak very fluent Russian, and I can have great conversations with the girls (and also communicate with taxi drivers, dispatchers etc. With ease). For anyone who doesn't know Russian and doesn't know Russia, but wants white girls, I would think they would be better off going to Frankfurt. The sex culture there can be a bit mechanical (even if the girls are not German, they seem to pick up the sex culture fast), but so can it here nowadays. If one visits the three largest FKKs in Frankfurt there are so many girls to choose from that it is always possible to find someone with the right chemistry. The prices are not higher than Moscow and the setup is incredibly much more convenient, especially if you want to live like a king and be with several girls every day.

Bye bye Moscow.

[DramaFree11]

Ya, I was surprised when the lady (handling rooms) said 3500 for the HR, as I distinctly remembered reports here saying 6000. Didn't ask why, or course, and just went with it. It was about 2 am on a Wed night (or Thu morning actually), so perhaps at that hour, and it being a weeknight, had something to do with it, I dunno.

Thank you, for the clarification. I will go tomorrow and see if I can negotiate.

Just arrived already had one session, second girl is on the way.

Love Moscow.

[Eforel]

I was at Aurora Tues, Penthouse Wed, and Angels Thurs.

Timing matters. Aurora and Penthouse both had 20+ girls easy from 1030 onward. Angels I hit right after 9 pm open and only about ten girls (one of whom rocked my world) but I expect at regular hours same as Aurora and Penthouse.

Loft club also had at least 20+ ladies. I was there from about 12:45-3:30 am. After the private hour downstairs with my delectable Elena, I went back up to the main floor for 1 last drink (prob about 3 am) and there were some new ladies I didn't remember seeing earlier in the night (maybe I just didn't notice them before, I dunno), but it appeared that the atmosphere had begun to die down by then. Reflecting back to my time at Loft a few weeks ago, I'm still amazed at the extremely high caliber of talent they had there! Felt like a kid at Disneyland, LOL!

[Eforel]

My trip has been delayed for variety reason, finally leaving Tuesday evening. I see how to get free entrance, but on the site it says private rooms are 6000, is there a discount?

Ya, I was surprised when the lady (handling rooms) said 3500 for the HR, as I distinctly remembered reports here saying 6000. Didn't ask why, or course, and just went with it. It was about 2 am on a Wed night (or Thu morning actually), so perhaps at that hour, and it being a weeknight, had something to do with it, I dunno.

[Steve 9696]

How many girls can one choose between at the strip clubs like Aurora, Loft, Penthouse etc. On a typical night? Basically I am wondering whether one is choosing between a lineup of a hand full of girls, or more like 20-30.

I was at Aurora Tues, Penthouse Wed, and Angels Thurs.

Timing matters. Aurora and Penthouse both had 20+ girls easy from 1030 onward. Angels I hit right after 9 pm open and only about ten girls (one of whom rocked my world) but I expect at regular hours same as Aurora and Penthouse.

[Cucumber]

How many girls can one choose between at the strip clubs like Aurora, Loft, Penthouse etc. On a typical night? Basically I am wondering whether one is choosing between a lineup of a hand full of girls, or more like 20-30.

[DramaFree11]

I will be in Moscow from 29 Nov would like to meet up, it will be great to hang out with an expert.

Sure, send me a message. Unfortunately I will only be there for 4 days, so not a lot of time.

[DramaFree11]

Researching the contributions on this thread about gentlemen's clubs in Moscow really paid off! Of the 5 clubs mentioned (Angels, Aurora, Hunters, Loft & Penthouse. All same ownership) I decided to go to the closest one to my hotel, and that was the Loft Club. Apparently these 5 are all relatively similar so I went with convenience. Great establishment, clean, classy, and many gorgeous Russian women! I'm not a strip club guy (been there, done that. Days long past) but this place is truly awesome, and I'll be returning to at least one of the 5 with every future trip to Moscow!

I arrive around 12:45 am. Go through security and head up the elevator to the 5th floor. I use the code word "LIQUER" for free entry, then a cutie of a hostess politely directs me to the main floor and I take a seat at the bar. I'm wearing a sharp Versace suit, and I think the ladies recognize I've got some $. Within seconds a girl comes to talk with me and I buy us drinks. We're having a nice chat, when midway through our conversation another comes between us to offer a "dance", and then another, and another, and they're all smoking hot! This is simply common policy here, and the ladies aren't offended by the interruptions apparently. It's amazing how intimate you can get with them (still at the bar!) Kissing, fondling pretty much anywhere, stroking me over my pants. Good lord! I got maybe 4-5 dances (each the length of a song) at roughly $3 each! Man, where else can you find such a bargain with that high caliber of hotness? I mean, some (not all) of these ladies could be high end models!.

My trip has been delayed for variety reason, finally leaving Tuesday evening. I see how to get free entrance, but on the site it says private rooms are 6000, is there a discount?