Angeles City

[Kazeu]

Angeles definitely isn't for everyone. Seems like you've already determined that it is the shit hole that everyone else already knew it to be. I would recommend Makati or the Burgos area. Stop wasting your precious vacation in angeles and leave it for those of us who like the dregs. Honestly, I can totally see where you're coming from. Angeles is not what it used to be. To really appreciate it you have to lower your standards quite a bit and appreciate it for what it is. Cheap sex. It seems like you are looking for something more, if that's the case, the probability of you finding it in angeles, though not impossible, is slim. Happy hunting!

Yes Mr. E it appears the dress standard is more beach wear than casual and maybe many just want "anyone" to go back to the hotel with. Do the necessary gyrations and get the money only to go back as quick as possible to get the next client. But maybe, just maybe, there might be some who might appreciate something a bit different, be it just for one night. All of us have differing MO's and hopeful outcomes of our mongering experience. Viva la difference. And yes I will try to talk to them more. Thanks for this advice.

Mr. NB first night observations are just as stated "first night" I don't profess to be a seasoned monger, a matter of fact when one poster once said I was not a true monger I was satisfied with that statement. I may as you say " know nothing" but it will be interesting if after my time here whether your statement of " 5% to 7. 5% are sexy & hot. The rest are undoable" and " not much quality" are interchangeable statements.

There are varying reasons why many of us pursue this activity. It may seem strange for some to accept that there are those who don't have the mantra of: lets fuck as many girls as possible night after night. Remember when you look in the mirror there is only one person who looks back. Once again as above each to their own. Sometimes its good being different.

Of course if my reports cause you so much stress there is an option available. For others my reports, observations will continue. Stay tuned.

Welcome all feedback.

[PedroMorales]

1. Tourists look at all kinds of crap. Thailand's and Holland's Red Light Districts are now family tourist haunts.

2. Although I always dress as a gentleman, it is surprising Angeles etc does not have all the Indian tailors Thailand is plagued with.

3. Lots of guys just like a slower pace, downing beers, hanging out with ex pats and having a girl to pat on the bum. They could well be a majority.

4. Relax and stop fighting. Holidays are for chilling.

[Member #4698]

There are varying reasons why many of us pursue this activity. It may seem strange for some to accept that there are those who don't have the mantra of: lets fuck as many girls as possible night after night.

Well if you are not into fucking every night you picked the wrong town in Asia to take your vacation because there is little else to do here. LOL. Your comment reminds me of the mindless bus tour Chinese tourists on Walking Street, Pattaya. Why do they come to Pattaya the red light capital of the Milky Way? It's humorous except for the fact that they get in the way as you are trying to walk down the Soi.

Dude, in case you did not know, AC is a shit hole. There is no rational reason to go to AC other than to party every night in the bars and get laid relatively cheap unless you have a business or family in the area. But hey, its a free country. Do as you like. Ha Ha.

On the doable scale: the percentage drops if you don't know where to go because quality varies immensely from bar to bar. Some bars don't have even one fuckable girl. Others have very good lineups. Maybe you will discover this fact. Maybe not. But I do hope you have something worth reporting in your future posts. I am holding off final judgement, but I got to say, I have a premonition that you are an example of the "happy troll" ie someone who just wants attention and loves to hear himself bloviate. This is a sex forum you know. Get to it!

[NewImage]

Yes Mr. E it appears the dress standard is more beach wear than casual and maybe many just want "anyone" to go back to the hotel with. Do the necessary gyrations and get the money only to go back as quick as possible to get the next client. But maybe, just maybe, there might be some who might appreciate something a bit different, be it just for one night. All of us have differing MO's and hopeful outcomes of our mongering experience. Viva la difference. And yes I will try to talk to them more. Thanks for this advice.

Mr. NB first night observations are just as stated "first night" I don't profess to be a seasoned monger, a matter of fact when one poster once said I was not a true monger I was satisfied with that statement. I may as you say " know nothing" but it will be interesting if after my time here whether your statement of " 5% to 7. 5% are sexy & hot. The rest are undoable" and " not much quality" are interchangeable statements.

There are varying reasons why many of us pursue this activity. It may seem strange for some to accept that there are those who don't have the mantra of: lets fuck as many girls as possible night after night. Remember when you look in the mirror there is only one person who looks back. Once again as above – each to their own. Sometimes its good being different.

Of course if my reports cause you so much stress there is an option available. For others my reports, observations will continue. Stay tuned.

Welcome all feedback.

[BrainDrain]

First day Observations. Hmmmmmmm all hype, not much quality.

NI.

Well your expectations will adjust to the AC life and before long those 6's and 7's will be doing things to your body you didn't even imagine before.

How about raising the bar on what to get from these girls. Make your craziest fantasy come true. Go hire a penthouse at ABC or Lewis Grand. Fill it up with a few bar girls from your favourite bar. Invite a couple of other mongers and see what happens.

Hit pinalove and meet a few normal girls.

Go down to Nepo Mall and walk around there for something different (leave your wallet and valuables at hotel.

Grab a massage from a wechat massage girl.

Just a few ideas.

And I agree PAL J class is crap. I did it once when they had intro fares and once when I did a bid for upgrade. For the 7 hour flight now I just select the row behind exit row. Then when everyone has boarded I just move to exit row. Pinoys don't need the extra leg room.

[Thampi62]

Day 1.

Reached NAIA3 around 2. 30 afternoon last Thursday. Immigration was empty and came out in 5 minutes. 3 PM Genesis bus was ready and reached SM AT 6. 30. X'mas decorations showed everywhere. Look like in a festival mood. Reached Pacific Breeze in a tricycle. After shaving and shower went directly to pick the girl met last time from Insomnia. In two months she changed a lot. Jolly Bee effect reflected in her face and body. After food back to hotel and had one session and slept with her. She was busy with her smart phone throughout. Felt like she transformed in her attitude the way she have lots of fans. Its AC and they are for money to live the rest of their life. As one of the member said earlier "in a working girl house one have to act as a working girl". Good one. Next day morning I gave her a gift (a perfume) and bid bye.

Damage 3000 BF. 800 food. 25 dolor for perfume.

Day 2.

Friday after walking in SM mall went to PonyTail. Mamasan Celia is a friend of mine and talked with her some time. She suggested a girl for me and it belonged to my expectation. Asked her for long time but she hasto take care of her younger sister so declined but agreed to stay till 10. The experience was awesome. We were together for 5 hours talked a lot and did everything in bed in my imagination. I invited her for Bikini show in Score Birds next day. She planned it with her friend and we fixed a threesome plan on Saturday. I did it on excitement. I am a budget monger. If I take two girls together for a show I have to sacrifice the rest of the trip. Sometimes I feel like an idiot after giving offers. Visited few bars in WS after she left followed by spent some time I HS also.

Damage 2500 BF 500 Tip.

Day 3.

Went to Score Bird for Bikini show. It was okay to pass time. Met few friends. Since the management is same all the girls are from Atlantis, Doll House and Pony Tail. I am a fan of Pony Tail so I supported Pony Tail girls. Visited XS afterwards one girl approached me and she looked mature and talkative. I liked her and told if she is willing to stay LT I will BF her. She agreed. We went to HS for one hour and danced together having couple of SM beer. We had a wonderful time together. But unfortunately red flag showed up early morning and she asked my permission to move. Left at 4 in the morning.

Damage. 600 in Score Birds. 3600 BF, 400 beer at HS no tip.

Information: Kokomos started a 24 hour dance bar near the restaurant. Barfine is 3600 with the same we get for2000 or2500 from Angel Witch.

Lancelet opposite Kokomos started working a day session from 12 noon onwards.

Day 4.

Picked Genesis bus at 11 Am went to NAIA 3 and picked a taxi to Makati Palace in P Burgos. Makati Palace was strict on their check in time. Only at 3. Pick a Grab taxi and went to Abacca Spa. Since I haven't an appointment they declined. Booked at 7 and came back after spending some time in Havana Cafe. The two hour massage was excellent. Espicially the prostate and lingam massage. Came back to hotel and explored almost all bars by grabbing a beer. Burgos bars are not for budget mongers. So watch and go. Good looking FL were walking around. Will get them next time. This was my last day and next day I left Manila.

Thinking of coming back again in April or May.

[Sxxxx]

Any gear will do, that is true. They are not after drinks at Hi So and not after ladies drinks in Bars. They are after real money, and the quicker they get to it the better for them. LD's gives them about P100 commkision (if double) , but not necessarily same day. Might have to wait for a day or two for the 100. P100 in the hand is their preference, not the drink (commission).

But I wear my be grade gear / clothes back home except when visiting Doctor / Specialist, little bit of an upgrade then. Overseas whoring I wear my 'A' gear cause I am no Rogue Elephant, I am aged. Fresh smart clothes helps the aged's confidence. We are competing with young fresh cocks, who can dress down, we feel the need to dress up, although that might raise expectations of 'high price' (tip) sometimes.

Same, they are not interested in drinks, and they are not interested in us. They are interested in our money.

The smile from her is not for our charm, good looks etc, but for the anticipated cash she can collect, if we take her to our hotel room.

As the great Train Wreck, er, I mean, Train Driver, once said: "It's all transactional".

[Mr Enternational]

AND they didn't seem that interested in me. Now usually I get at least few smiles, in KL in June was fighting them off but even these below 7's were not responsive.

Don't rely on smiles. Talk to them!

So plan was go home, dress a little bit better than singlet and shorts and hit High Society maybe a bar or too, maybe pick up a FLer.

The good thing about hookers is that you don't have to dress up for them. You don't have to party with them either. You can simply walk into High Society, see a chick you like, walk up to her and tell her let's go. Fuck all that buying drinks and bullshit. You can realistically be in and out of that place with a chick from 3 to 5 minutes. I have done such in various hooker discos around the world.

I think I made a report of the last time I went to High Society. I met a chick and gave her some money to go to the bar and buy us drinks. She came back with 1 drink. I said why you did not get a drink? She knew that she could put that 120 pesos to better use than buying some bullshit drink in a club. Don't get it twisted. The girls go there to look for someone to go to the room with; they are not there trying to get impressed. What you had on is standard AC wear and is fine for High Society.

[Engine Driver]

I've been getting all sorts of beauty treatments during the day time here in AC, because there is quite simply nothing else to do. Can a few beautiful, dusky angels from Angeles City, transform a rough engine driver who's had a lifetime of hard labor into a glowing, radiant Idris Elba clone? We shall see.

I've been massaged, pummeled, exfoliated, scrubbed, manicured, pedicured and waxed to within an inch of my life. I've even had my ears candled for 300 pesos for fucks sake! I'm not sure what good that did, but it was on the menu and I needed to kill another half hour. The chick stuck these long paper tubes in my ear and lit the fuse. She assured me all the coal dust, gunk and 50 years of shit in my ears would be magically removed. Did it make any difference? Who knows? What would Idris Elba have done?

There are lots of massage places here in AC. Some a very good, some are very bad and some are just plain dangerous, likely to end with the horny monger in prison.

Street Massage Girls.

There are lots of pretty things handing out cards for massage on Fields Avenue. Most of them look about 14-16 years of age. That's because that's how old they actually are. Hahahaha. A number of people have confirmed that's their age. The bars won't take them and they need the money to support their dad's cheap tequila habit back in the provinces. Their Korean masters have paid the cops to look the other way, but that's no reason for you horny mongers to fall into the honey trap. Yes I agree that there will be nothing more sexy on this planet than to watch a 15 year old cutie stroke your cock while lovingly gazing into your eyes, but just keep walking and don't accept their cards. If you are busted with a girl in your hotel room, your life as you know it is over.

WeChat Massage Virtual Shops.

These are professionally run massage businesses owned by Koreans. Just turn on WeChat and about six businesses will pop up. The girls are all over 18. They provide room service massage and extras. It's around 800 pesos for two hours with cock and ball massage thrown in. The Korean term for this is jenlipson. If you want the chick to stroke your cock till you cum, she will want a 500 peso tip. There are a number of combinations and permutations. One girl, two girls, topless, one hour, two hours, cum release or blue balls. All firms are around the same price. Girls will not do FS. I had one yesterday. 20-year old gave me a very professional massage and then expertly massaged my balls and cock until I came (or is that cummed? One of the best HJs I've had. This is a must try in AC.

Reign Spa.

This is the best and most professional, legit massage shop in all of AC. You do not need to go anywhere else for a genuine massage. There is no funny business here. It's the type of massage shop your wife or girlfriend visits back home in Rich White Man Land and then charges $120 back to your credit card. Hahahaha. Really impeccable service here and I cannot recommend this enough. Mr E was so smitten with one chick here, he pursued her for four years before she would drop her panties. Hahaha. The original owner died a few years ago from cancer and its now run by her brother and her daughter. The original owner had diplomas from what Po massage university and attended all sorts of massage Olympics in Manila. I've been going here every day.

Other Places.

There are lots of other massage shops all over the place. Some are legit, some are anything goes. The dirtier and seedier the place looks, the more they will offer. In most cases, if you order room service, you can negotiate anything with the girl.

[Sxxxx]

Well, I didn't mind New Image's post. At least it was not bragging, boastful, and cup full, crap. It was as he saw it and experienced it. Honesty in reports is appreciated and NI reminded us Angeles is no Disney Land. Sometimes its up, sometimes its down, for us. You can not command a person to report this way or that way. What NI said is the way he saw it, did it. Fair enough.

At the same time I am always surprised at how serious Mongers approach Angeles. Myself I have a lot of fun there. I project 'fun' to the natives and they return favour. If they are enjoying your presence, outcomes are better. That's what I have experienced.

Anyway, I have nothing to do until I arrive in Angeles few days time. NI's report does not worry me at all, cause I know my reaction to AC will be different, mainly cause of my attitude and lengthy experience in this game, for it is a game. They play, I play. I enjoy, thus they enjoy. Never perfect, but most of the time great fun.

Yeh, my message if any is, don't be so serious about it all. In reality, be superficial, cause that is what they are. Light, on the surface stuff, not deep stuff. Depth is not there, so don't go digging for it, LOL. And it does not get you fucks, LOL.

Not as good as it used to be, but what is, as we travel through life / whoring. Old saying: "Accentuate the positive, eliminate the negative".

First step when I get off the plane is smile (glad to be back again). The rest follows naturally.

[Member #4698]

First day Observations. Hmmmmmmm all hype, not much quality.

What observations, New? You observed less than the tip of a tip of an iceberg. Look, I am not challenging you on your decision to sleep in on your 1st night in town. You did what you wanted to do. But for God's sake, you make these observations about the AC scene without going into a single bar or buying a single girl a drink, let alone shagging a few girls. You know nothing. It is all in your head and with all your questions to the forum before arriving, I would have thought you would have a better handle on things. Apparently you don't, so here is the lowdown on what you should have comprehended from reading this thread:

AC is all about the bars. Perimeter bars in the afternoon and Fields Bars at night. THAT'S IT!

So, forget about reporting on nothing. Do some bar hopping first. Find some good looking, nice girls and get it on with them. This will entirely change your perspective. Now I hope my comments don't come across as too harsh, although to be honest, I don't really give a damn, LOL. But dude, you are in AC. It is a bar town left over from the Clark US Air Force days. Get on track! Hit the bars every night. Barhop until you find a girl you like. Then repeat the process every subsequent night until you leave town. If you take a liking to a particular girl repeat with with her if you feel like it. It is that simple, that easy. There are ton of bar girls to choose from. 5% to 7.5% are sexy & hot. The rest are undoable.

[Engine Driver]

A manly fella like Idris Elba would not have been so easily deterred from pounding that dried fish and balut smelling Pinay fuck-hole bareback. You should have held her hand down at Social Hygiene if you wanted her to take that ginger test. Alternatively, a bit of Vicks rubbed in the nostrils before going down under for a bit of teeth and tongue works wonders for pescatarians with weak stomachs.

Next time when confronted with a particularly fishy dish in the Philippines, try pairing it with a bottle of Legende Bordeaux Blanc. It explodes with freshness on the palate, obliterating the fishy flavor and aroma.

CM,

I am always grateful for your considered wine and food pairing suggestions. All that money your mom invested in your sommelier education has clearly not gone to waste.

While those old horny mongers are stocking up on cheap tequila by the crate load to bribe their way into virgin provincial pussy, you and I will be traveling in style, quaffing Legende Bordeaux Blanc and barebacking nasty pug nosed hookers with a bad case of the clap. Hahahaha. The antioxidant properties of that particular Frogland plonk are well known to ward off infections.

We have even read about one horny monger that wants to drive around the remote provinces, with a pickup truck full of cheap tequila, looking to flag down innocent virgins. Hahaha. Back in White Man Land, if he tried that trick, they would send him to a maximum security Federal penitentiary and throw away the key. Hahaha.

BTW, since old Club Foot has died, are you thinking of taking his place on the Wine List Guys group? They are looking for an erudite Francophile like yourself to take up the editorship of their esteemed wine rag. Also, was Trim Keeper ever a wine connoisseur?

[NewImage]

Caveat. Ok readers those of you who have read my Sabang TR and KL TR know I tend to do a travel log style. Some like some don't, but yes daytimes can be boring for me so this fills in the time and for you yes you might get a deeper insight into travels to these places. So if you enjoy, read – if not there will be sections highlighted by * to point you to the stuff you really wanted to know girls, bars, prices etc. So read what you wish. I only travel twice a year so this is my way of giving back for all those many questions I ask.

Here goes.

To stay and play or to go and play – that was the focus of this trip to the Philippines. With the south sea peso buying so little overseas I was tossing whether to stay and use the flights, accommodation, food and extra expenses money in my home town or whether the fruits of that awaited me overseas were worth the money to get there and stay there. Because I fly Business and stay in 4 star hotels for a 3 wk trip I would shelve out 5 K just to fly there, stay there, eat and get around. Now that 5 k could be used for 20 pretty good sessions in my home town. So after do KL in June and coming to the conclusion that I wasn't getting VFM the Phils was maybe going to be my last hurray for a while. Those of you may also know I have a beautiful Viet partner of 12 years so I am having my cake and eating it too.

Well things didn't get off to a good start. Apparently the wrath of God was trying to prevent me from coming to the Phillipines so he sent a typhoon to disrupt my plans. Great says he but luckily PAL rescheduled some 12 hrs later which saw me take off after midnight to arrive around 6 am. So planned one night lay over in Manila did not happen and rearranged schedule saw me off to Angeles direct from airport. Word about PAL business class – in a word dodgy. Food was terrible, seat was ok, service ok, entertainment good. Flew MAL at July and easily 5 times better in professionalism and standard of service. Flew cattle class before – is extra money worth it – no but if you are big like me and need comfort what do you do. Arriving at 6 am customs and immigration were a breeze straight through. Change some money. Used Angeles City Taxis for airport pick up – wasn't at designated spot but thankfully thanks to another pick up driver contacted my driver and off we went to Angeles. Approx. 2 hrs later we were pulling into Central Park Towers. Paid the 3,100 fee – sorry no tip – you should have been where you said you were going to be. Apart from that driver was good and would use service again. Now original plan was one night layover in Manila, taxi to Angeles and arrive 2 pm ish but due to PAL rescheduling arrived around 9 ish. Paid 1710 (50 AD) for early half day check in and up to room. Executive room was standard hotel room not great but not poor. Was missing some things I require kettle, iron, cup (LOL) but front desk soon were obliging. Note about attitude – attitude goes along way. On check in Jap guy was complaining about getting itemised bill and front desk said for some reason not possible but he wouldn't accept it and move on. When I went to ask for kettle, ironing board, iron, cup etc I was a bit concerned with possible response. But not an issue – a matter of fact – the signs were more than yes we can arrange that – the signs were any other way we can be of service to you. Now I am no stud but present quite well and are always polite and accommodating and you know when that smile and that look means more than I am just doing my job. She was cute but hotel staff probably not a good idea.

Ok unpacked, really needed food as refused breakfast options on plane as main meal was crap. Had done a bit of research on food and knew Bunny Burgers served pretty good bfast so off I went. Big Aussi bfast 330 p hit the spot and sat and watched the foot traffic up and down Fields Av. Some pretty young (maybe too young) fillies were passing, with occasional WG's. On the way home got propositioned by 2 out of 10 WG who was yelling ST to me from across the street. Yuk. Looked once and never looked back. So up to room quick 2 HR nap and here I am writing this. Impressions so far – so so – this is my 3rd time in Philippines but first time in Angeles. Lets see what the night holds. My plan is stay away from main bars on Walk Street – hit perimeter bars and High Society. Hoping to pay 2000 BF / takeaway plus drinks – each night spend 3000 all up. Might try my hand at some FL ers too and as some of you know there may be some "alternative" nights.

Ok crashed about 2 pm slept till 4 and woke up still a bit seedy. Went for a bit of a walk around 6:30 to have dinner. Thought Kokomos would be good place to watch and ok to eat so perched myself with other "viewers" on road way side and had meal (very fair not great lasagne and salad).

*Well first impressions were not good unfortunately. Walking traffic had very few what I considered 7 and above. 99% wouldn't pay for. AND they didn't seem that interested in me. Now usually I get at least few smiles, in KL in June was fighting them off but even these below 7's were not responsive. Lots of dangerous younger than should be on the walking street, very few ladyboys and maybe saw 5 above 7's for the 2 hrs or so I sat there. Koreans everywhere in their usual MO's – maybe that was it if you ain't Korean sorry you haven't got enough money. Talked to another Aussie and he commented he wasn't impressed with High Society and the general standard of girls in Angeles.

So plan was go home, dress a little bit better than singlet and shorts and hit High Society maybe a bar or too, maybe pick up a FLer. Got back to hotel and just felt tired, a bit deflated and thought F* it I've got 3 wks here lets just pass on this night. I think the beauty of my position with partner back home is I don't HAVE to have sex every night. If you don't have it one night you will have it another. Maybe its an age thing too – mad testosterone levels are not what they were at 18 so tonight good nights sleep and go hard tomorrow night. And considering the options I saw on Walk St and responses I couldn't be bothered doing the hard yards that night. He comes to the Candy Store and walks out empty? Well I wasn't that hungry I suppose.

First day Observations. Hmmmmmmm all hype, not much quality.

NI.

[Engine Driver]

Hahahah. With all the public info available I think it would take an enterprising chap about a day in AC to find out her contacts.

I'm guessing ASIO would be keeping a very close eye on her.

I tried that yesterday at Pony Tails. I bought a drink for a veteran dancer who has been there for 2-3 years. She claimed not to know of April. She got upset I would be judgmental of a hooker, so I had to backtrack and say wasn't love a grand thing. In my experience, Pinays will never help another colleague and will claim ignorance even if they share the same dorm. They get jealous very easily if other people's success.

[Goferring]

And is known a bar girl come hooker in north Queensland also. Am sure while George is in Canberra doing very little some young Aussie guy may attract her attention. Maybe we should go there G and have a sniff around see if she is game for a threesome LOL.

Hahahah. With all the public info available I think it would take an enterprising chap about a day in AC to find out her contacts.

I'm guessing ASIO would be keeping a very close eye on her.