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  1. #3205

    2 days Nairobi

    Best I could do in this city was 4-5 k, nice girls but experiences weren't as good as Mombasa, I had two days so not enough time for good semi pro contacts. Mombasa I was giving 3 k without even discussing money and they wanted to hang around and meet again but I had 8 days there. Number of girls and quality is higher than Mombasa, but vibe here is more pro.

    Only place with girls midweek seemed to be black diamond, some stunners in there.

    The response to 3 k is usually that it will only cover transport money. But ratio is in your favour.

  2. #3204
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleDarknes  [View Original Post]

    Side rant: I don't know why there isn't a sex tourist industry? It's not that Africans object to white guys fucking their women and you have white tourist women fucking African men so it's not that. Why isn't there a Soi Cowboy in Africa? Meaning a place where the best girls work all the time and the prices are codified? Like is said you can fuck doctors and lawyers (and defenitely med students and law students) but it's difficult to fuck actual slay queens because you don't know where they'll actually be. As far as I can tell the best place to find them is on Instagram.

    Any thoughts on why they don't specifically cater to sex tourists the way that Thailand, The DR and Brazil does?

    Trip.
    There is a sex industry on the continent. I mean these threads are evidence of that. The industry is just different. The channels are much more informal, like the many networks and economies across African nations. But "if you know, you know". In a Nairobi context, Brew Bistro or Black Diamonds might as well be Soi Cowboy etc. I remember when I was in Nairobi and I mentioned to some friends that I stopped over in Black Diamonds for some drinks when I arrived. They immediately giggled saying "Ohh, that place is where all the working girls congregate".

    I think the industry across the African continent can be summed up as "What's understood, doesn't need to be explained". When it's the end of the month and rent is going to be due soon, go to the upscale clubs / bars and you'll see the sex industry you speak of, LOL. I actually prefer the lowkey nature of things. Also, the industry more so caters to locals than to tourists so there's that. And let's be honest, outside of a few countries, African nations aren't exactly high on the list for most people's travel destinations.

    Per the "slay queens", they don't have to be overt seeing as they're highly desired (relatively). They're still in the same clubs and lounges like Brew, but they're just a bit more covert with their operations. That, and they'll attend more 'private' events e. G. Governor's birthday party etc.

    And you also rightly alluded to something as well, they're more so on iG and the like. iG allows them to market to a broader audience and select the best offer. A 10/10 slay queen can post pictures from her room or in the club and have different suitors message her and set up a short term situation. When done, she moves on to another. iG has definitely changed the game even on the continent.

  3. #3203
    Quote Originally Posted by Neddy69  [View Original Post]
    In the colonial area for a white british male it was frowned upon taking a local woman. It was called going native. It was an absolute NO go. The so called happy valley set fucked around. These were the white settlers in the kenyan highlands shagging other whites settlers wives contracting all kinds of STDs.

    Just watch OUT OF AFRICA. That was the reality.

    Whereas in the german, french or portuguese colonies it was perfectly normal to go "native".

    Why would africans need an "industry". Fucking is the most natural thing on earth. Its nothing special... Only some entrepreneurs in the west made a business out of it....

    Neddy.

    In the areas around lake Victoria polygamism is the norm. Read accounts of Emin Pasha also called Dr. Eduard Schnitzer.. From the 1870? Uganda. A village elder had like 10 pussies he fucked. Perfectly normal....
    In Africa nothing is what it seems. If you're a monger or simply a man coming to Africa for a vacation it would make sense to just get a Slay Queen from Brew Bistro and be done with it.

    Cheap is expensive and expensive is cheap. Sure you can take than non pro waitress but she's going to cost more in hassle and time and even money in the long term from the Slay Queen that you'll know where you stand with.

    I realize that mongers get got with Thai bar girls but you have to be pretty soft and dumb to marry someone that you know is a working girl, Until you shake off the western mindset you're going to fuck yourself up. It's worse for the guys that didn't come to monger specifically yet fall into it.

    Trip.

  4. #3202

    Going native

    Quote Originally Posted by TripleDarknes  [View Original Post]
    Nah that's not it. I read in the local paper about the first African man to marry a white woman in the mid fifties. They also talked about a white colonial era police man who was deported for marrying a local woman.

    In Asia there wasn't a batted eye of some euro official taking up with a local but in Africa it was different. I think that's the reason why there isn't a real sex industry here.

    Trip.
    In the colonial area for a white british male it was frowned upon taking a local woman. It was called going native. It was an absolute NO go. The so called happy valley set fucked around. These were the white settlers in the kenyan highlands shagging other whites settlers wives contracting all kinds of STDs.

    Just watch OUT OF AFRICA. That was the reality.

    Whereas in the german, french or portuguese colonies it was perfectly normal to go "native".

    Why would africans need an "industry". Fucking is the most natural thing on earth. Its nothing special... Only some entrepreneurs in the west made a business out of it....

    Neddy.

    In the areas around lake Victoria polygamism is the norm. Read accounts of Emin Pasha also called Dr. Eduard Schnitzer.. From the 1870? Uganda. A village elder had like 10 pussies he fucked. Perfectly normal....

  5. #3201

    The Colonial mindset

    Quote Originally Posted by Mombie75  [View Original Post]
    It is still too much of a God fearing christian country and the church is strong so there are Soi Cowboy areas here. That is my theory anyways.
    Nah that's not it. I read in the local paper about the first African man to marry a white woman in the mid fifties. They also talked about a white colonial era police man who was deported for marrying a local woman.

    In Asia there wasn't a batted eye of some euro official taking up with a local but in Africa it was different. I think that's the reason why there isn't a real sex industry here.

    Trip.

  6. #3200
    It is still too much of a God fearing christian country and the church is strong so there are Soi Cowboy areas here. That is my theory anyways.

  7. #3199

    Tob Cohen

    Quote Originally Posted by TripleDarknes  [View Original Post]
    You're correct about Tribes even locals told me that, Even Kikuyu men told me to stay away from Kikuyu women.

    Trip.
    Ask Tob Cohen. Hahaha.

    Neddy.

  8. #3198

    Organized.

    Quote Originally Posted by TripleDarknes  [View Original Post]
    In all things it depends on your perspective.

    If I were on a short (or long vacation) and I didn't get pussy of my choice everynight I'd be mad.

    An African American looks at Africa differently, I don't think I need to see an actual village to see the "The Real Africa" To me the Westlands is just as Real to me as I want to be. At the end of the day a Black woman is like any other Black woman. If I were flying thousands of miles I understand that village girls are available I want to fuck the best of the best.

    That's why I ask about non mongering activites, If I dreaming of a sex paradise and I fly in hit the clubs and get a higher number than I expect or the lay isn't what I expect and all I can do is go back to my room and cross my fingers that there isn't a black out, I'm probably going to break down and pay a higher price.

    Africa is not what it seems, People read the excellently written posts of seniors and think that all girls are available at all times. Yes there's not a such thing as #metoo here but that doesn't mean that all are available and that even if they're technically available that you can get them. I met a beautiful girl at a phone shop. But she was so damn busy that I couldn't get her on two trips here. I met here while getting her to translate for another girl I was meeting.

    I pulled a "freebie" Luo maid out of Sabina Joy while leaving a threesome. We exchanged numbers, we linked up on another trip but our schedules didn't match so we fucked on my last day and I gave her some change (about 3500 ksh).

    Actually the maddening thing about Africa is the lack of a sex industry. Even if you go to Sabina Joy you might find a beautiful girl for 1000 Ksh in the short time rooms (which I didn't know about on my first trip) Then there's the white skin factor, If a chick "likes" you the price may drop (a little). It works the same way if a Black american went to europe paying is basically optional again not every girl is into Black guys but the ones who are really are.

    Side rant: I don't know why there isn't a sex tourist industry? It's not that Africans object to white guys fucking their women and you have white tourist women fucking African men so it's not that. Why isn't there a Soi Cowboy in Africa? Meaning a place where the best girls work all the time and the prices are codified? Like is said you can fuck doctors and lawyers (and defenitely med students and law students) but it's difficult to fuck actual slay queens because you don't know where they'll actually be. As far as I can tell the best place to find them is on Instagram.

    Any thoughts on why they don't specifically cater to sex tourists the way that Thailand, The DR and Brazil does?

    Trip.
    THANKS GOD there is no organized sex industry.
    Actually there is a sort of organization... I heard about a brothel in Nairobi situated in a private villa in Westlands... Run by an Israeli.. He rents out white Russian hookers to Nairobi MPs and indian high rollers... The going rate there is 30k ksh...
    And it will never be organized. You hit the nail on the head. You never get what you want when you want it. Africans are the greatest opportunists on this planet. Also the chicks. Some come out when rent is due. I know for you it's a bit different as like nakedgunz your black americans. Nevertheless you're Americans. So automatically you're loaded. You're Americans. And everybody knows Americans are filthy rich. (pardon the pun). But once you're traveling long enough in Africa you'll approach a trance like state. Sooner or later you turn into an African. When I look at some of my expat friends who live here 30 years plus. Its a matter of survival. You adjust.

    When you get to a stage where you plan only a week ahead. You're ok. If you arrived at 48 hrs. Congrats. You're 100% African.

    Neddy.

    Who has only two important dates. The date of the flight and the date of the return flight. Everything else in between is the ride into the unknown.

    As my good old deceased friend Sir Richard Francis Burton put it so aptly:

    Of the gladest moments in human life, methinks is the departure upon a distant journey to unknown lands. Shaking off with one mighty effort the fetters of habit, the leaden weight of Routine, the cloak of many Cares and the Slavery of Home, man feels once more happy. .

  9. #3197

    Tribes

    Quote Originally Posted by Neddy69  [View Original Post]
    I looove LUOs. My number ONE tribe. Trouble free. Hot in Bed. After Kambas. Kissiis. Baluhya. Eventually Massai, Turkana, Samburu. Stay away from Kikuyus. Taitas. Digos.

    Neddy.

    My first question is always. Which tribe? And another tip. Learn Kiswahili. Like. Sema, pesa ngapi jiggi jiggi? Then the price drops off a cliff... As you're in KK territory... Kenya Kimbo... LOL
    You're correct about Tribes even locals told me that, Even Kikuyu men told me to stay away from Kikuyu women.

    Trip.

  10. #3196

    You're both right

    Quote Originally Posted by Neddy69  [View Original Post]
    Quite frankly. I hardly monger in Nairobi. Simply too expensive. This guy stroke luck with 1500. The girls I took were from Simmers, Black Diamond, and Sabina Joy. They were all decently dressed, nice looking. No street skanks. These you can get for 500. I am not setting prices for other mongers. But for me its easy. If I don't get the deal I want I walk straight away. Probably many other mongers insist on that particular chica and that's of course when she has you by the balls. I personally never paid more than 3000 ksh in Nairobi. There is loads of civilians working in shopping malls etc. They make maybe 15 k ksh a month. So a lot likes to complement their income. In general I hunt in Mombasa or on the country side like Nakuru no probs at all to get nice students for a 1000.

    I have loads of pics. But I am lazy to compress them down and black out their faces. But I can assure you they are all nice and good looking and smell good. I remember that Taita comes up to me in Simmers and thinking I am a high roller from one of the hotels. She started with 7 k. I started laughing. In the end she wanted to go with me for 3 k. Did I take her. No. Bad Karma.

    If I don't find anything I sleep with my pillow.

    The advantage I have. My balls are always drained as I spend 3 months at a time in Africa.

    Neddy.
    In all things it depends on your perspective.

    If I were on a short (or long vacation) and I didn't get pussy of my choice everynight I'd be mad.

    An African American looks at Africa differently, I don't think I need to see an actual village to see the "The Real Africa" To me the Westlands is just as Real to me as I want to be. At the end of the day a Black woman is like any other Black woman. If I were flying thousands of miles I understand that village girls are available I want to fuck the best of the best.

    That's why I ask about non mongering activites, If I dreaming of a sex paradise and I fly in hit the clubs and get a higher number than I expect or the lay isn't what I expect and all I can do is go back to my room and cross my fingers that there isn't a black out, I'm probably going to break down and pay a higher price.

    Africa is not what it seems, People read the excellently written posts of seniors and think that all girls are available at all times. Yes there's not a such thing as #metoo here but that doesn't mean that all are available and that even if they're technically available that you can get them. I met a beautiful girl at a phone shop. But she was so damn busy that I couldn't get her on two trips here. I met here while getting her to translate for another girl I was meeting.

    I pulled a "freebie" Luo maid out of Sabina Joy while leaving a threesome. We exchanged numbers, we linked up on another trip but our schedules didn't match so we fucked on my last day and I gave her some change (about 3500 ksh).

    Actually the maddening thing about Africa is the lack of a sex industry. Even if you go to Sabina Joy you might find a beautiful girl for 1000 Ksh in the short time rooms (which I didn't know about on my first trip) Then there's the white skin factor, If a chick "likes" you the price may drop (a little). It works the same way if a Black american went to europe paying is basically optional again not every girl is into Black guys but the ones who are really are.

    Side rant: I don't know why there isn't a sex tourist industry? It's not that Africans object to white guys fucking their women and you have white tourist women fucking African men so it's not that. Why isn't there a Soi Cowboy in Africa? Meaning a place where the best girls work all the time and the prices are codified? Like is said you can fuck doctors and lawyers (and defenitely med students and law students) but it's difficult to fuck actual slay queens because you don't know where they'll actually be. As far as I can tell the best place to find them is on Instagram.

    Any thoughts on why they don't specifically cater to sex tourists the way that Thailand, The DR and Brazil does?

    Trip.

  11. #3195

    Tribes

    Quote Originally Posted by Mombie75  [View Original Post]
    Am in nai at the moment. Badoo gojng crazy after I arrived yesterday. Took a luo stunner, 5 ft 7, long nips, solid slim figure, from it today and met her in town after she finished work. She said she will stay the night for 5 k, I said 3 k and she agreed. Saves her a trip home and back to work in the morning.

    Gave her a solid 1 hour pounding and she is currently asleep while I watch foot all in my apartment.
    I looove LUOs. My number ONE tribe. Trouble free. Hot in Bed. After Kambas. Kissiis. Baluhya. Eventually Massai, Turkana, Samburu. Stay away from Kikuyus. Taitas. Digos.

    Neddy.

    My first question is always. Which tribe? And another tip. Learn Kiswahili. Like. Sema, pesa ngapi jiggi jiggi? Then the price drops off a cliff... As you're in KK territory... Kenya Kimbo... LOL

  12. #3194
    Am in nai at the moment. Badoo gojng crazy after I arrived yesterday. Took a luo stunner, 5 ft 7, long nips, solid slim figure, from it today and met her in town after she finished work. She said she will stay the night for 5 k, I said 3 k and she agreed. Saves her a trip home and back to work in the morning.

    Gave her a solid 1 hour pounding and she is currently asleep while I watch foot all in my apartment.

  13. #3193

    Nairobi

    Quote Originally Posted by NakedGunz  [View Original Post]
    I respect your posts, and you have been posting for a long time in Africa, but I have also in Kenya, so do you have any pics of these cheap women in the photo gallery? I'd like to see them, and try to decipher what I'm doing wrong, because I like women that look good, smell good, and have stripper bodies, and that ain't happening at 1500. Your often off the beaten path, so do these women have perfume, nice clothes, brush their teeth? I don't set prices for other mongers. Each man has his own taste.
    Quite frankly. I hardly monger in Nairobi. Simply too expensive. This guy stroke luck with 1500. The girls I took were from Simmers, Black Diamond, and Sabina Joy. They were all decently dressed, nice looking. No street skanks. These you can get for 500. I am not setting prices for other mongers. But for me its easy. If I don't get the deal I want I walk straight away. Probably many other mongers insist on that particular chica and that's of course when she has you by the balls. I personally never paid more than 3000 ksh in Nairobi. There is loads of civilians working in shopping malls etc. They make maybe 15 k ksh a month. So a lot likes to complement their income. In general I hunt in Mombasa or on the country side like Nakuru no probs at all to get nice students for a 1000.

    I have loads of pics. But I am lazy to compress them down and black out their faces. But I can assure you they are all nice and good looking and smell good. I remember that Taita comes up to me in Simmers and thinking I am a high roller from one of the hotels. She started with 7 k. I started laughing. In the end she wanted to go with me for 3 k. Did I take her. No. Bad Karma.

    If I don't find anything I sleep with my pillow.

    The advantage I have. My balls are always drained as I spend 3 months at a time in Africa.

    Neddy.

  14. #3192
    Quote Originally Posted by Neddy69  [View Original Post]
    You paid 1500 ksh. And of course in the morning the girl takes the matatu home for 100 bob. LOL.Neddy.
    I respect your posts, and you have been posting for a long time in Africa, but I have also in Kenya, so do you have any pics of these cheap women in the photo gallery? I'd like to see them, and try to decipher what I'm doing wrong, because I like women that look good, smell good, and have stripper bodies, and that ain't happening at 1500. Your often off the beaten path, so do these women have perfume, nice clothes, brush their teeth? I don't set prices for other mongers. Each man has his own taste.

  15. #3191

    Other Europeans.

    Quote Originally Posted by UngernKhan  [View Original Post]
    I thought I got a decent rate because of talking to other Europeans they told me of 12-14 K Ksh, actually the most of Europeans pay figures of this kind.

    I admit my fault by saying that I love those "undressed smoking slay queens". Having said that I have been able to have sex with a good looking girl in microskirt and high heels for free. Just give her 1500 Ksh for the taxi to come back home (OK the real rate of Uber was like 650 Ksh).

    Thanks for these others tips. The next year I will try to be smarter. And try Mombasa too.
    These "other" Europeans are probably the usually overpaying, clueless NGO / UN / Corporate expats on 10 k plus USD. A month.

    12 to 14 k ksh. Thats more than the monthly salary of a night watch man.

    But you did good with the micro skirt girl. That's exactly what you do. You give taxi money. I love sexy chics too. But I pay only normal market rate and not the inflated UN / High roller expat rate.

    You actually did very well with 1500 ksh.

    And it was not free. You paid 1500 ksh. And of course in the morning the girl takes the matatu home for 100 bob. LOL.

    Neddy.

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