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[Goferring]

Thanks for setting me straight. Maybe we need to go in and get our good brother some glasses then.

Nope. What he should have done is continue to be pleasant to them and ask if they had girl friends who would like to meet up.

Every LB has a gaggle of girl friends who are on the game just as every smoking hot bar girl has LB friends who pose no threat to her when they go out.

You guys need to show some more initiative and make the most of what every opportunity presents itself. 😁.

Cheers. G.

[Lefeu]

Thanks for setting me straight. Maybe we need to go in and get our good brother some glasses then.

Me too, I have taken quite a few SWs from Burgos street and the surrounding area. Of course, I ran into many LBs along the way, but they have not been a problem. One of them even tried hard to convince me that he was as good as a girl. Not a chance!

[Mr Enternational]

I doth protest good sir. I routinely take Burgos SW.

Thanks for setting me straight. Maybe we need to go in and get our good brother some glasses then.

[WestCoast1]

If it is not reaching too much, I would like to say NONE! That is because the SWs on Burgos are men. The only people you see reporters saying they picked up outside on Burgos are the massage girls.

I doth protest good sir. I routinely take Burgos SW. On the current first page in the PG are posted several different SW from recently. There are at least half a dozen LB hanging in the street in the evening, mostly on the corner of Burgos / Durban streets. They can linger much later into the night than the ladies; the ladies tend to depart the area by 3 am, but LB often stay thru till 7-8 am, hanging directly across the street from Cubana Cafe in the morning. One could get fooled, but there are plenty of non-uniformed lady SW on the street.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

What are the requirements? Own your own gun (bullets are optional), have a starched white shirt and a plastic badge, handcuffs are a nice option (the plastic silver ones will do). Just smile at the guests and open the door for them to instill confidence. Keep out the bad guys, the two girls wearing white robes? Let them in, they don't stand out at all. Except this hotel doesn't offer white robes. Let those girls freely roam the halls, knocking on doors. My guess is its the 'let us in the room' scam where one of the girls is under age and screams for the police. Or a payout. Front desk is called, equally clueless. Yes I have a guest right now, no I don't have two more girls joining me for a white robe party. Hey its 8 am now, knocking at the door and I'm thinking its housekeeping. Same two girls. Big grin from one like 'I've got him now' but by the time her brain went from grin to I better get my foot in the door I had the door shut. Wait a bit and walk down to the lobby and talk to security, all three of them. Hey guys I said, can't you recognize the same two girls from yesterday sans the white robes? What girls they ask, when did this happen? 10 minutes ago guys. OK we'll look on the CTV cameras.

Has to be a scam, didn't succeed the first time in robes, lets try dressing up in the morning. And again, these girls don't live close by so I have to assume the pimp is driving them to the hotel and back. Got to love the games they play.

Since they are determined to get you, and know where you live, perhaps you should move to another hotel.

[PilotPaul]

Has to be a scam, didn't succeed the first time in robes, lets try dressing up in the morning. And again, these girls don't live close by so I have to assume the pimp is driving them to the hotel and back. Got to love the games they play.

Maybe they are house guests that got lost coming back from the pool? Or they wear robes in the rooms which they have from previous visits. They could have just gone to the wrong room?

[Mr Enternational]

Clearly not learning my lesson, got approached by another SW while walking down Burgos. We struck the same deal, started walking towards the hotel, but this time I asked if she was LB while walking. She said no, but I insisted on checking. Strike two me for me haha! Basically if she looks too good to be true, she probably is.

You said you did a ton of research. Which post did you see someone mention picking up SWs on Burgos? If it is not reaching too much, I would like to say NONE! That is because the SWs on Burgos are men. The only people you see reporters saying they picked up outside on Burgos are the massage girls.

[Dg8787]

What are the requirements? Own your own gun (bullets are optional), have a starched white shirt and a plastic badge, handcuffs are a nice option (the plastic silver ones will do). Just smile at the guests and open the door for them to instill confidence. Keep out the bad guys, the two girls wearing white robes? Let them in, they don't stand out at all. Except this hotel doesn't offer white robes. Let those girls freely roam the halls, knocking on doors. My guess is its the 'let us in the room' scam where one of the girls is under age and screams for the police. Or a payout. Front desk is called, equally clueless. Yes I have a guest right now, no I don't have two more girls joining me for a white robe party. Hey its 8 am now, knocking at the door and I'm thinking its housekeeping. Same two girls. Big grin from one like 'I've got him now' but by the time her brain went from grin to I better get my foot in the door I had the door shut. Wait a bit and walk down to the lobby and talk to security, all three of them. Hey guys I said, can't you recognize the same two girls from yesterday sans the white robes? What girls they ask, when did this happen? 10 minutes ago guys. OK we'll look on the CTV cameras.

Has to be a scam, didn't succeed the first time in robes, lets try dressing up in the morning. And again, these girls don't live close by so I have to assume the pimp is driving them to the hotel and back. Got to love the games they play.

What is the hotel and where is it located?

[Breadman]

What are the requirements? Own your own gun (bullets are optional), have a starched white shirt and a plastic badge, handcuffs are a nice option (the plastic silver ones will do). Just smile at the guests and open the door for them to instill confidence. Keep out the bad guys, the two girls wearing white robes? Let them in, they don't stand out at all. Except this hotel doesn't offer white robes. Let those girls freely roam the halls, knocking on doors. My guess is its the 'let us in the room' scam where one of the girls is under age and screams for the police. Or a payout. Front desk is called, equally clueless. Yes I have a guest right now, no I don't have two more girls joining me for a white robe party. Hey its 8 am now, knocking at the door and I'm thinking its housekeeping. Same two girls. Big grin from one like 'I've got him now' but by the time her brain went from grin to I better get my foot in the door I had the door shut. Wait a bit and walk down to the lobby and talk to security, all three of them. Hey guys I said, can't you recognize the same two girls from yesterday sans the white robes? What girls they ask, when did this happen? 10 minutes ago guys. OK we'll look on the CTV cameras.

Has to be a scam, didn't succeed the first time in robes, lets try dressing up in the morning. And again, these girls don't live close by so I have to assume the pimp is driving them to the hotel and back. Got to love the games they play.

[PilotPaul]

Hey fellas,

Did a ton of research here before my trip so wanted to give back. This was my first trip to Philippines. And mistakes were made!!

Great FR and great acceptance of your situation. Hopefully you dodged all the LB. I'm searching for your AC report already.

[Breadman]

From a math's points of view it's the size of the drinks bill which determines the fun level. So if you plot your drink bill amount onto my chart and this will explain your low level of fun in that bar.

If your going to be doing bar graphs you should also take into account the sliding ugly scale vs drink bill and its effect on one's erection. Diminishing returns aka shrinkage. My brain is doing the calculations. Take out a hot girl in a dark bar and wake up to find your grandmother sleeping next to you. See an ugly girl in a dark bar and things start going dark. I could hear the warning bells going off in my head. Abort, abort, abort. Just like the guy selling gyros on the street with a never ending super super small piece of meat cooking away. What should be a 20 lb piece of chicken selling out every night has been the same 2 lb piece of shrinkage. If its been 2 lbs since I got here last week, just how long has he been trying to sell the original skewer?

And on a side note, had a guest in the room this afternoon. Things had just started and then there's knocking at the door. I'm thinking it has to do with the girl, possibly security or the police. Hoping its neither. I've been around the block, not going to open the door to anyone. Look out the peephole and see two girls from earlier in the trip. I've read the reports, I know there are all types of scams and this has to be one of them. Open the door and they'll force their way in and then ask for money, a payoff. Luckily I had a guest already that could vouch they never entered. Simply called down to the lobby and informed them of the situation and within minutes they were escorted off the property. Be smart, play it safe. Hotels are so old its highly unlikely the security cameras even work anymore to back you up.

[SaltyPete]

Take Kojax for instance, its been closed since Sunday. Closed three days now in a row.

Was XOXO open (right below Kojax)? They are sister bars with most of the same girls. Usually one is open when the other is closed. No, I don't understand the logic behind it. Just consolidate all the girls in one bar and reduce your overhead.

[Elemental]

Hey fellas,

Did a ton of research here before my trip so wanted to give back. This was my first trip to Philippines. And mistakes were made!

Went for a week in late October, spent Saturday night in Manila, then AC from Sun to Wed, and back in Manila Wed to Sun before flying out.

Stayed at in Burgos for the first night while waiting for a friend arriving the next day. Picked up a local SIM from the airport and took an easy Grab ride to the hotel. I hit up the apps and sites before coming, so tried that. It was the weekend before Halloween so there was a lot of activity on Burgos.

First girl I tried to meet from Tinder right after checking into the hotel looked really good. 19 yo university student. Turns out she was a cherry girl, not looking for sex. I insisted she stay LT and was quoted 20 k. Hard pass on that, should've been more direct from the beginning.

Another girl from Tinder started messaging me. Agreed to meet at the City Grand hotel bar. Sat there for like 30 minutes chatting up the manager. Girl quoted me 5 k, got her to 500 to meet and 2. 5 k ST if we click.

We were messaging the entire time while she was on her way. Eventually I see 2 messages within 5 minutes of each other that she's there and then that she didn't see me so she left. She must've looked around for like 2 minutes max. So more wasted time for me haha!

Started walking around Burgos to see how it is. Some SWs approached, one looked good and we agreed to 3 K LT. When we got to the hotel, she immediately said that she can not go in there. Suggested a ST hotel. I got suspicious, and insisted that I check to see if she's a LB, which after a while she admitted. Whoops!

Clearly not learning my lesson, got approached by another SW while walking down Burgos. We struck the same deal, started walking towards the hotel, but this time I asked if she was LB while walking. She said no, but I insisted on checking. Strike two me for me haha! Basically if she looks too good to be true, she probably is.

After literally wasting about 3 hours with all that crap, just went inside Plan be and picked up a cute 19 yo Indian-mix spinner. I forgot the price, but it was in line with what the boards told me. Was too jetlagged to bust, but service was alright. Hotel did the ID check and actually came by after the deed to see if everything was OK LOL. Good service at that hotel.

Sunday morning, met a girl from WeChat for coffee. 30 yo, but white skin and looked good with see cups. Saved her info for when I return in Manila later in the week. Pretty sure I saw her walking around Burgos during all the Halloween stuff going on the night before LOL.

Went off to AC for a few days (which was much more successful, will post in that thread too) and came back later in the week.

Wed night spent just hanging out with my friend and another local friend.

Friday, I was still determined to try the apps. This time, I stayed at an AirBnB near Greenbelt which I liked a lot better than Burgos.

Thursday, I basically hired the WeChat girl to be my tour guide to explore Manila for 3.5 k + expenses. Spent the day seeing Intramuros, Divisoria, Chinatown, and Mall of Asia. During that time, I told her that I definitely remember her walking around on Halloween with her friend, and said I thought she was cute. After that, she started casually holding my arm / hand for the rest of the tour and ended up staying the night. Spent a lot on expenses because we hung out the entire day through the night, but worth the experience.

Friday, chatted up a really skinny girl on FC and agreed to meet at BGC. She was about 40 minutes late, and unable to msg promptly be / see of lack of data. She did not look as good as her photos, and was a really inexperienced province girl. Pretty messed up teeth too, but sweet. I was hungry so just ate dinner with her and sent her off since I had no interest.

Still determined to not go to the bars, I basically wasted more time meeting another girl from Tinder, who turned out to be another "too good to be true" - fuck my life!

Not wanting to go to a bar, at around midnight I msg'd a Tinder girl I met in AC who was really into me and still messaging me after I left AC, imported her Saturday for 4 K including travel, had fun, and left on Sunday.

All in all, learned a ton from this first trip, and already booked to go back next year LOL!

[PilotPaul]

His drink bill went from zero to 3000 in ten seconds flat. Ten minutes after I left it probably hit 6000..

From a math's points of view it's the size of the drinks bill which determines the fun level. So if you plot your drink bill amount onto my chart and this will explain your low level of fun in that bar.

[Goferring]

The ISG is a place where people can come and put up glowing reports but we just don't know that guys backstory, what his nationality is or his money situation.

This applies to nearly everyting:

I'm very happy with my online conquests. Others see it as a waste of time.

I very rarely barfine a girl, yet others seem to live in the bars.

We read of fees form 500 to 15,000 p being justified.

I've given and received numbers for highly recommended girls only for the recipient to consider her a waste if time.

In short, YMMV everywhere. 😁.

To understand why girls favour one punter over another try this:

https://youtu.be/VYSOD9yu52k

Cheers. G.